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Should Wild Horses, Wolves, Be Sacrificed for Public Lands Ranchers

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- 1995 days ago -
The dilemma has come down to this: Should ranchers be allowed to graze their livestock on public lands, then expect both Government help and public support for killing any native wildlife there that conflicts with their non-native livestock?

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Teresa W (782)
Saturday November 3, 2012, 7:48 am
No, definitely not! They shouldn't!

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 3, 2012, 7:58 am
No, absolutely not!!

Sue H (7)
Saturday November 3, 2012, 8:33 am
No, NO and NO!

Michael M (60)
Saturday November 3, 2012, 8:51 am
Additionally, an entire pack of Montana wolves were gunned down in early 2012 due to the predation of ONE government sheep - one of thousands of the USDA's Sheep Experiment station, which grazes them on more than 100,000 acres of public lands in Idaho and Montana.

I'll post the Howling For Justice news which was mentioned back in early October at:

Nicole W (646)
Saturday November 3, 2012, 10:26 am
Heck NO!!!

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Saturday November 3, 2012, 10:34 am

Krystal R (120)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 12:38 am
Until we get the Grazing pulled and make the cattle and like Michael said, the sheep pulled off the federal and national parks, the Gov will continue killing our natural wildlife to keep them there, so that is what we MUST work on. Get those grazing permits pulled and depredation payments stopped to save our natural wildlife...please everyone, were getting our wildlife murdered for cows and they ranchers and farmers are laughing at us

Krystal R (120)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 12:44 am
Note: My mom has written up a draft with the sierra club and some well known clubs and just turned it in to Vincent last night with TWA finished drafted copy of the wolf war winning solution to be able to win the wolf war. And it is a winning solution. Complicated, But VERY capable of winning. Fully Drafted, down to appeals and Lawyers, even to the point of who needs to go to what state to start what process first. And we have the people to start the actions and it does not matter who wins the election, This is going to be happening.

Krystal R (120)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 12:46 am
And its not going to be nice, telling these ranchers their free money and using their free grazing and getting paid for frivilous claims is going to be threatened, but its time. they have made it rich on the fake bogus claims, and our wild animas have been murdered for no reason, and we now out number them by 100,000 members. its time we make a stand

Krystal R (120)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 12:56 am
When we lost our wolves, my mom died with them, as did I, I failed, Ostara was going to be the wolf that I was going to monitor and learn and document. I was getting an amazing oppertunity to help other people to learn about timberwolves and learn about them myself. They killed a baby, but they didn't take her soul, I have her soul. She lives in my heart. My baby will be named Stara. But I am coming out Swinging, I want to get wolves so they never have to feel this scared again. My puppie was screaming. She never screamed, she was terrified. I will never forget that sound .... NEVER... and thats someone's idead of FUN? omfg it was horrendous, and that scream wakes me up everynight... those rotten humans can take those barn animals OFF the parks! they dont belong there! My pup was on a park too, black forest dammit!

Danuta W (1248)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 3:29 am

Past Member (0)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 4:07 am
No one is forcing the ranchers to use the land.

Joe R (190)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 3:56 pm

("It seems high time to re-write the protective covenants for our public lands to ban such destructive and exploitative uses ." Yes!)

Mike H (252)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 6:47 pm
NO! The U.S.A. has long documented history of taking what it wants.

Marie W (67)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 8:45 pm
NO-Hell no!

. (7)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 9:09 pm
NO, it's their land, but it will go the rancer's way.

Leslene Dunn (84)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 10:31 pm
A huge NO!!!!

Roxie H (350)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 10:59 pm
ty everyone, this is a battle been building, and now the native tribes are even getting bullied again, so its time to push back. This will be my final mission. And it will be the hardest fight, so stand together across the world, we have the whole world with us

Maureen C (4)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 11:17 pm
This is all wrong!

I've been reading a lot on the BLM's websites, and from people who protest and monitor the wild horse round-ups (bless them for what they do), and it seems that the BLM are working solely for the ranchers: this is wrong!

If ranchers are allowed to graze livestock on these wild lands, they should pay, and take the risks involved: no fencing, no reimbursement for predation, and killing or interfering with wildlife who's home they are invading.

We could reduce this pressure by all of us reducing the demand for beef, and stopping eating the meat being raised; but the irony is that this grass-fed beef is the healthiest to eat, if you must eat beef. (Disclosure: I don't eat mammals.)

Giana Peranio-paz (398)
Sunday November 4, 2012, 11:26 pm
This is absolutely wrong and we must fight this tooth and nail all over the world!!

Roxie H (350)
Monday November 5, 2012, 2:11 am
Loves you Giana, and its a world wide fight, the USA has these dumbest laws of all the countries...just plain stupid, and this fight is going to go on now, know how to do it, all papers in order, now to start presenting them. The ranchers and the NRA (national riflemans association) held it in thier hands for so many years like gangsters. They finding out the puny ants have the world behind them now, and not just in the usa anymore, we have organized with the....whisper ...those other people oh my!

Roxie H (350)
Monday November 5, 2012, 2:11 am
non americans EEEEK!

Roxie H (350)
Monday November 5, 2012, 2:16 am
we all can live on one planet, why so few can't see that..when majority can. We are here, all this killing, and evilness, is it really worth it? just pisses people off, spreads a plague. some must enjoy that, they thrive on evil

Past Member (0)
Monday November 5, 2012, 2:51 am

cecily w (0)
Monday November 5, 2012, 3:03 am
NO! The ranchers are maintaining "their" animals for blood money which is immoral to begin with

Donna Hamilton (159)
Monday November 5, 2012, 5:57 am
No, absolutely not! Noted - thanks Roxy.

Mary Radek (2)
Monday November 5, 2012, 9:01 am
No - I sign every petition I find on this issue. Public lands are just that PUBLIC - leave wild animals ALONE

Veronique L (209)
Monday November 5, 2012, 9:05 am

Roseann d (178)
Monday November 5, 2012, 11:16 am
HELL NO! Plus, we shouldn't be subsidizing removal of wolves and horses, and letting these welfare ranchers rip us off...grazing their cattle leased for $1.53 per acre. What a deal eh?

Christine Stewart (134)
Monday November 5, 2012, 3:29 pm
Wildlife needs to be protected on OUR public lands! The ranchers should buy their own land to graze their livestock. Please boycott beef and lamb- the ranchers are the ones calling for the slaughter of wolves, bison, coyotes, prairie dogs, and the wild horses!

Michelle Roesch (5)
Monday November 5, 2012, 4:38 pm

Terry V (30)
Monday November 5, 2012, 5:18 pm
Ranchers are INVADING the HOME of the wildlife. Who wants a home invasion???

Earth Cry

Colleen Prinssen (14)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 7:24 am
oh good. someone uses a photo of fighting stallions, and not someone snuggling a tamed ex-wild horse.

our wild horses went extinct during the ice age. why aren't you calling Russia's feral dogs wolves?

Roxie H (350)
Wednesday November 7, 2012, 3:56 pm
well, I am not really familiar with Russia's Feral Dog's ... but would love to see a Post about them... do they resemble wolves? Now you got my interest.

MmAway M (505)
Thursday November 22, 2012, 5:24 pm
Sorry, just caught this and without typing what I am thinking I willl have to agree with Terry V..."No well in ..."

Rosemary Lowe, RN (2)
Wednesday March 6, 2013, 7:01 pm
Thanks everyone for the great comments on getting The Livestock Industry Off Public Lands. Here in the Soutwest we are witnessing the decimation of our wildlife populations, our forests, our grasslands, our streambeds, and precious water because The Livestock Industry thinks our public lands belong to them. They graze exotics, domesticated animals, on National Forests, Wilderness and even Wildlife Refuges at below-market rates (we taxpayers foot this bill). These lands once had perennial- flowing rivers/streams, and native grasses called "short-grass prairie. This is gone. The Jemes Mtns. near Santa Fe, had a terrible Mega Fire 2 summers ago--burning almost 200 thousand acres. We hiked into an unburned area, and all we saw were cattle everywhere, tramping what little grass was left. Where will the wild animals live?
We Must get The Livestock Industry off Public Lands now, before more wildlife lose what habitat is left.
Please join me in signing the Care 2 Petition on this issue-just type in "Public Lands Ranching..." in search box. Please share this petition with everyone--we need many more signatures!
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