Thursday November 5, 2009, 1:25 pm
Michelle (bug mouth) no nothing neocon Bachmann is at it again. Rallying her troops to oppose the health care bill because of the public option. What is it that these idiots don't understand about meaningful health care reform?

The Republicans don't have a plan that they can move forward, Pelosi killed the single payer option, and won't allow for the Republicans to move forward with a better plan if they have one, which they don't. But they don't like Obama. Plain and simple. So they will do whatever they can to disturb the peace in order to get their way. But in the end the bill is going to pass either way. That is unless Joe Lieberman sides with the Republicans and they launch a filibuster, and this can happen. Kyle is already talking with Lieberman about the health care and a "filibuster."

Next year the entire House comes up for re-election, and now it will be up to us to either vote these idiots out of office or be stuck with more of the same. Do we really want more of the same?

Thursday November 5, 2009, 1:53 pm

Not everyone who opposes the Pelosi bill is a Republican do-nothing.

I am EXTREMELY pro healthcare-for-all and oppose it because it still endorses involvement of profiteering insurance companies.

Thursday November 5, 2009, 2:02 pm
 
Please see the following articles:
 

Reject the CORPORATE OPTION for National Health Care



Shut Down This Murderous Racket: Change We Need and Crave
Shut Down This Murderous Racket: Change We Need and Crave
 
Capitalism and Health Care
 
Pelosi Must Let States Create Single Payer Plans

We can ill-afford to accept ANY plan simply because it purports that it will reform the present healthcare situation . . . when -- upon closer scrutiny -- it is discovered that it will, in fact, only worsen it by strengthening the ties to corporate insurance companies!

Thursday November 5, 2009, 2:33 pm
 
Last night PDA got word from Congressman Weiner’s office that Speaker Pelosi is keeping her promise to allow the Weiner single-payer amendment full debate and vote on the floor of the House. This will happen on Friday or Saturday.
 
After nearly being shut out of the discussion completely, single-payer Medicare for All is being heard in the corridors of power. This is the one opportunity for your Congress member to go on record as supporting the only universal, comprehensive, cost-effective solution to the health care crisis.
 
Please call to make sure your representative votes in support of the Weiner Amendment.
 
Four key HR 676 cosponsors also need to get a reminder to vote yes on the Weiner Amendment: Mike Doyle, PA-14; Tim Ryan, OH-17; Howard Berman, CA-28; and George Miller, CA-7. Click here to make those calls. They need to vote for the plan that most American people—nurses, physicians, and patients—want and so desperately need: Medicare for All.
 
This vote will make it clear to the movement which elected officials are truly with single-payer, Medicare for All. PDA will remember the members of Congress who stepped up with their support.
 
We need you to call today. Make our demand for single payer loud and clear by calling these representatives now!
 
In solidarity,
Tim Carpenter, PDA National Director Laura Bonham, PDA Deputy Director, Communications Coordinator Conor Boylan, PDA Field Coordinator Roberta McNair, PDA IOT Coordinator
 
P.S. Order Healthcare NOT Warfare stickers to take with you everywhere—spread the word!
 

Thursday November 5, 2009, 2:34 pm

BTW, PDA stands for "Progressive Democrats of America."

Thursday November 5, 2009, 2:43 pm
 
Further, I wouldn't believe anything Pelosi said if her mouth came notarized, and haven't trusted her since this:
 
Pelosi: Bush Impeachment `Off the Table’
 
 

Thursday November 5, 2009, 4:38 pm
When Pelosi took prosecuting Bush and his thugs off the table I was a bit more than outraged by her inaction to go after the criminals who got us into the situation we’re in now. Her position not to prosecute Bush/Cheney was the biggest mistake she ever made, and I thought for sure that she would have been defeated during the last election, but as we can now see, this did not happen.

Although she may allow the Weiner bill to be heard, the only other way to include a public option in the health care bill would be a Medicare Medicaid type government run health care program, and this is what all the stink is about, and the protesters who were sent to Washington at the behest of Michelle Bachmann, Glenn Beck and our hero Rush Limburger. These kind of Right wing nut jobs we can live without. And once again the protesters proved that they didn’t know what they were protesting. I still saw signs that read no Government Run Health Care! Apparently the seniors who were there don’t know that Medicare and Medicaid is a government run health care program, but if you told them you were going to take Medicare away from them the screaming would be heard into the next century: No you can’t do that to us. We earned this, and you can’t take it from us. Why not? I would ask. If you don’t want government run health care plan then you will have to give up your Medicare and your Medicaid if you qualify for both. In most cases some seniors do qualify for both because of a low Social Security payment. But you don’t hear them complaining about Medicare and or Medicaid because of how well it works.

We will not ever be rid of the greedy private insurers and we have to live with them, and their rules and regulations. And more often than not being a woman is a pre-existing condition, and they will look for reasons to deny medical treatment based on that.

Humana and United Health Care are waiting until January of 2010 because that yr. Many people will reach full retirement age, and they are betting on Medicare Advantage plans that many seniors will opt in for. They are counting on it. I have already done the research and it is going to cost more for Medicare Advantage Plans, and some plans don’t include Medicare Part D drug prescription plans. They will have to pay extra for those plans.

I have been receiving all sorts of offers from private insurers for me to sign up with them to get the most out of my Medicare, but what they don’t realize is the fact that I have been receiving Medicare for 15 yrs. So, they are wasting their time and money sending me the junk mail that they send me at least once a week from one insurance company to another. I have no interest in signing with any Medicare Advantage plans and I care less if AARP endorses the plan. Just because AARP endorses a plan doesn’t mean it’s a good one.

As for the federal government I have lost faith in them years ago. Bush really did it for me, and now the lying Democrats like Pelosi whom I’d like to see kicked to the curb, but know it isn’t going to happen any time soon. We should have learned from the first Bush administration that having a second Bush in office would be even more disastrous than the first, but some people never learn. Which I wonder if they’re not brain dead in some way. They seem to be gluttons for punishment, and now Obama is backing away from the promises he made. We are in a no win situation no matter who is president. Yes, Obama may be better than McCain/Palin, but not by much. He is entering his first full year, and he must start doing what he said he was going to do when he campaigned, or else it’s good bye, been good to know you in 2012. Maybe he should just wrap it up now and resign? A good question to ponder anyway….

Thursday November 5, 2009, 4:40 pm
Bush still can be impeached. There is no Statute of Limitations on Impeachment, and that's a good thing, but don't count on it. Although I did read somewhere that Bush is being investigated. Just don't remember where I read it. I'm having a senior moment....

Thursday November 5, 2009, 4:43 pm

Bush won't be prosecuted on criminal charges because Obama has already pretty much said, "Let's not look backward . . ." (Huh?)

Thanks for your insight, Stephen. Glad to see we agree on so much!

Thursday November 5, 2009, 5:18 pm

I just received the following email:

From Congressmen Dennis Kucinich and John Conyers

Dear Friends,

We thank you for your continued devotion to the cause of health care for All Americans. We have worked together for many years to write, promote and campaign for HR676, a single payer, not for profit health care system. Your work, in communities across America, has been instrumental in helping at least ten states create single payer movements, with many more states to come.

Tomorrow, the House of Representatives is scheduled to consider a single payer bill. As the two principal co-authors of the Conyers single payer bill, we want to offer a strong note of caution about tomorrow's vote.

The bill presented tomorrow will not be HR676. While we are happy to relinquish authorship of a single payer bill to any member who can do better, we do not want a weak bill brought forward in a hostile climate to unwittingly accomplish what would be interpreted as a defeat for single payer.

Here are the facts: There has been no debate in Congress over HR676. There has not been a single mark-up of the bill. Single payer was "taken off the table" for the entire year by the White House and by congressional leaders. There has been no reasonable period of time to gather support in the Congress for single payer. Many members accepted a "robust public option" as the alternative to single payer and now that has disappeared. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has scored the bill scheduled for a vote tomorrow in a manner which is at odds with many credible assumptions, meaning that it will appear to cost way too much even though we know that true single payer saves money since one of every three dollars in the health care system goes to administrative costs caused by the insurance companies. Is this really the climate in which we want a test vote?

While state single payer movements are already strong, the national single payer movement is still growing. Many progressives in Congress, ourselves included, feel that calling for a vote tomorrow for single payer would be tantamount to driving the movement over a cliff. The thrill of the vote would disappear quickly when the result would be characterized not as a new beginning for single payer but as an end. Such a result would be seen as proof that Congress need not pay attention to efforts to restore in Conference Committee the right of states to pursue single payer without fear of legal attacks by insurance companies.

We are always grateful for your support. We are now asking you to join us in suggesting to congressional leaders that this is not the right time to call the roll on a stand-alone single payer bill. That time will come. And when it does there will not be any doubt of the outcome. This system of health care injustice will not be able to endure forever. We are pledged to make sure of that.

Sincerely,
Congressmen John Conyers and Dennis Kucinich

Friday November 6, 2009, 7:24 am
Thank you for sharing your e-mail Just C.