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Can Egyptian Born McCain Be Presidnet?

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: John McCain, Naturalized Citizen, US Presidnetial Election, Republican Candiadate )

Eco
- 95 days ago - themoderatevoice.com
John McCain's birthplace has given rise to one of the more vexing questions of the campaign season: If McCain wasn't physically born in the United States, can he be president?
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Eco Mann (188)
Monday July 7, 2008, 8:13 pm
At the heart of this “controversy” lies the fact that McCain was not born within the 50 United States–and that the Constitution restricts the presidency to “natural born” citizens.
 

June Marshall (415)
Monday July 7, 2008, 8:18 pm
I would say he can be president because The Canal Zone was a U.S. territory from 1914 to 1999.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday July 7, 2008, 11:36 pm

If Bush could be president, an alien lizard could be president. The Constitution is nothing but, according to Bush, "a G-d-damned piece of paper," so it doesn't apply to presidents any more.

Not that it matters, since the Democrats have already funded the wars of aggression (war crimes, according the the Nuremberg Principles the WORST crimes against humanity) until 2010, so even if Obama or the tooth fairy becomes president, the same policies will continue.

If you are opposed to war crimes, don't vote in the rigged election for either candidate of the military industrial complex. This is the very first time that the Democratic Party has gottn more donations donations from the military-industrial complex than the Republican Party. With trillions of dollars in defense contracts at stake, they wouldn't donate to a party that was apt to cut them off.

Don't vote. Unless you are a fascist who supports crimes against humanity, please don't give this fascist government your mandate to continue the wars that most Americans disapprove of and that our grandchildren will still be paying interest on, since they'll never be able to pay off the principal.

No in November!

There is no such thing as a lesser evil war of aggression. It is the worst evil there is. That's what we fought Hitler about. Watch this little five-minute video and think about it:

Tony Benn

Do you want to spit on the memory of those who fought with the Allies in WWII? That's what your vote in November would do, give your consent to the continuation of wars of aggression, no matter who the rigged voting machines or the Supreme Court "elects." It has been funded. Paid for. The contracts have been signed at least until 2010. I don't ask that you put your life on the line to fight fascism as earlier generations did, I ask only that you don't vote for it. Is that too much to ask?



 

BMutiny ThemIDefy (385)
Tuesday July 8, 2008, 12:53 am
McCain lost five U.S. Navy aircraft

Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while McCain III was being held prisoner of war. McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

Robert Timberg, author of The Nightingale's Song, a book about Annapolis graduates and their tours in Vietnam, wrote that McCain "learned to fly at Pensacola, though his performance was below par, at best good enough to get by. He liked flying, but didn't love it."

McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. "Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula," Timberg wrote, "he took out some power lines [reminiscent of the 1998 incident in which a Marine Corps jet sliced through the cables of a gondola at an Italian ski resort, killing 20] which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

Timberg reported that McCain radioed, "I've got a flameout" and went through standard relight procedures three times before ejecting at one thousand feet. McCain landed on a deserted beach moments before the plane slammed into a clump of trees.

McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.

After being drug from the lake, a mob gathered around McCain, spit on him, kicked him and stripped him of his clothing. He was bayoneted in his left foot and his shoulder crushed by a rifle butt. He was then transported to the Hoa Lo Prison, also known as the Hanoi Hilton.

After being periodically slapped around for "three or four days" by his captors who wanted military information, McCain called for an officer on his fourth day of captivity. He told the officer, "O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital." -U.S. News and World Report, May 14, 1973 article written by former POW John McCain

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant." Page 193-194, Faith of My Fathers by John McCain.

When the communist learned that McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital (U.S. government documents), a medical facility normally unavailable for U.S. POWs.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW McCain's father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

"McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat," explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs -- the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon. "Since McCain got 28 medals," Bell continues, "that equals out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down."

For years, McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero presidential candidate.
 

Eco Mann (188)
Tuesday July 8, 2008, 1:32 am
Coincidentally, the year that McCain was born (1936) is the same year that Britain, after having “protected” the “neutral canal zone” since 1888, signed a treaty with Egypt retaining control over the canal.
 

ELGIN LEE B. (47)
Tuesday July 8, 2008, 2:14 am
no no no .....i hate mccain but even if he was born on the moon his mother is a united states citizen and that makes him a citizen ...............oh how i wish he wasnt but he is
 

Pamela R. (189)
Tuesday July 8, 2008, 8:58 am
This is an interesting piece, Eco. I'd love to hear more! Regarding
Mark's comment ~ WE MUST vote in November! Apathy and mistrust will
never change the system.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday July 8, 2008, 11:29 am

It is possible that your trust in a system that has already had two stolen elections, and in which nothing has changed, might be misplaced, Pamela?

Have you read this article?

Consensual Political Intercourse

Those who trust a system that has already had two stolen presidential elections, appear to be the ones who are apathetic.

While Mugabe forced people to vote through violence and intimidation, there is nothing forcing us to vote for war crimes or to vote in rigged elections. Why do you say that we MUST vote? Have you seen this video?

Smuggled Film Shows How Mugabe Forced People to Vote

Zimbabweans had little choice but to vote or to risk death. We have a choice, Pamela.

 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday July 8, 2008, 11:33 am

And by the way, I usually assume that supporters of candidates do not waste time subscribing to topics and will not see my responses. They are much too busy posting campaign spam everywhere that they can. I take the time to counter campaign spam so that others will see it.

 

ELGIN LEE B. (47)
Wednesday July 9, 2008, 4:41 pm
mark you dont believe in the constitution as is ..so i highly doubt if those elections did not work out the way they did you would find a reason not to vote and promote not voting ........i find it amazing that anarchist and fiscal libertarians are working to have people not vote .....

 

ELGIN LEE B. (47)
Wednesday July 9, 2008, 4:42 pm
that should be together .......sorry
 
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