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Obama Consults With MSNBC Host Al Sharpton, and Other 'Civil Rights Leaders,' on Fiscal Talks

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This afternoon, President Barack Obama consulted with MSNBC host Al Sharpton, who's also assicated with the National Action Network (NAN), about the fiscal talks between the White House and Congress.

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Cam V. (417)
Friday November 16, 2012, 10:40 pm
This afternoon, President Barack Obama consulted with MSNBC host Al Sharpton, who's also assicated with the National Action Network (NAN), about the fiscal talks between the White House and Congress. At the same meeting, Obama also consulted with other "leaders of civil rights and civic organizations."

Via the pool report:

President Obama and Vice President Biden met with leaders of civil rights and civic organizations to discuss negotiations over how to avoid the fiscal cliff. The meeting lasted over an hour, and participants spoke to reporters outside the West Wing after they wrapped up.

Per the White House, expected attendees included:

* Peter Berns, The Arc
* Sister Simone Campbell, NETWORK
* Chad Griffin, Human Rights Campaign (HRC)
* Wade Henderson, Leadership Conference on Civil Rights (LCCR)
* Deepa Iyer National Council of Asian Pacific Americans (NCAPA)
* Ben Jealous, NAACP
* Marc Morial, National Urban League
* Janet Murguia, National Council of La Raza (NCLR)
* Barry Rand, AARP
* Kristin Rowe-Finkbeiner,
* Rev. Al Sharpton, National Action Network (NAN)
* Aaron Smith, Young Invincibles
* Rev. Jim Wallis, Sojourners

Pool can confirm that Campbell, Henderson, Iyer, Jealous, Morial, Murguia, Rand, Sharpton, Smith and Wallis were there, 'cause they all came out and talked.

Jae A. (320)
Friday November 16, 2012, 10:43 pm
What's you point Cam..that Blacks , especially those associated with one of the larget black organizations in the nation, should not be in on talks about fiscal responsibility ?

Bill K. (14)
Friday November 16, 2012, 10:51 pm
thank you cam for highlighting how open this president is. during the bush years a lot of the lists of who met with white house officials were kept secret. then romney even topped that level of secrecy during his campaign by keeping many of his policies secret.

jo M. (3)
Friday November 16, 2012, 11:16 pm
Anyone consulting with Al Sharpton should be impeached.

Cam V. (417)
Friday November 16, 2012, 11:22 pm
Open? What the hell do these people have to do with the fiscal anything? What do they offer to the conversation about what is bankrupting a nation? Are they employees of the people? No .... so what exactly is it that they offered to this?

Jae A. (320)
Saturday November 17, 2012, 12:35 pm
They represent a large portion of our U.S. citizenship Cam...I guess your being a Canadian it might seem strange that others,like in the U.S., want to here what the people have to say and not just the GOP's Corporate bosses.

Why Jo M, cause he is Black and that he is an outstanding active member of his community as well as the nation ?

Jae A. (320)
Saturday November 17, 2012, 12:39 pm
"These people" are Americans Cam, unlike yourself and the anti American/racist /Teabagger Klan on this side of the U.S. and Canadian border,who are willing to give up their U.S. citizenship because they can't keep take our country down and turn it into an Oligarchy.

This thread and a couple of the comments , in my opinion,are more proof of why the Teabagger Klan are so disliked in the U.S.

Diane O. (195)
Saturday November 17, 2012, 1:15 pm
Al Sharpton?? Laugh out loud!! Valerie Jarratt, Rev. Right, Al Sharpton...yep those would be very credible people to consult with....

Meanwhile, companies are laying off thousands of employees preparing for the "health care tax." Way to do, liberals. Wonder how many hundreds of Obama voters are in that number? I guess people get what they deserve....

Cam V. (417)
Saturday November 17, 2012, 3:08 pm
Nothing to with race at all Jae so pocket that card. I am pretty tired of that one. Al Sharpton et al have always tried to be a Martin Luther King wannabes. THAT IS ALL THEY ARE! Dr. King was a REBULICAN first and foremost and I would bet still would be. He was for fairness and equality for all. Wanted EVERY American to have a shot at the brass ring and be successful in life.

Some of those mentioned that Obama met with are people who encourage other people to be DEPENDANT on Government. There is NOTHING free about that.

Giana Peranio-Paz (407)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 2:08 am

Angelica C. (84)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 2:16 am
And yes, Al Sharpton is credible - maybe not at your lily-white country club, but he is everywhere else. You guys take issue with the fact that Obama isn't ignoring minorities. What does that say about you? This ain't Leave it to Beaver anymore. We've moved forward. Stay behind if you want to. Or better yet, don't secede. Just leave. Meanwhile, companies like Bain are ordering the corporations they own, like Sensata, to lay of hundreds of workers and move to China because the profits for Mittens will be so much bigger. Funny, Diane, I don't hear you complain about Mittens McScrooge laying off workers right before Thanksgiving so he could make a bigger profit off slave labor in China. I guess that's okay when a republican does it.

Diane O. (195)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 3:23 am
Angelica, you are talking about apples and oranges. When a company is no longer profitable for whatever the reason, lack of good management, etc that company needs to cut expenses, file for protection or close its doors.

Obama's "healthcare tax" is altogether different. But, I think you already knew that.

Angelica C. (84)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 5:35 am
You wish I was talking about apples and oranges. I am talking about your own Mittens McScrooge, who made a lucrative career as a corporate rapist by taking over American - based corporations when they were profitable, and then draining all the capitol out of these businesses for personal profit. KayBee Toys and American Grinding Corporation are only 2 of the 70 corporations he trashed for his own wallet. American Grinding Corporation had been started in the 1800's and it was still thriving. When Mittens left, he took the worker's pensions with him. I guess when a republican does it, that's okay. Recently, Mittens, who owns 51% of Bain's shares, had the Sensata worker's jobs moved to China. The company was profitable as it was
I guess that it is okay when a republican does it. When a republican does it, a republican voter will turn around and accuse the president (who tried to get outsourcing stopped by increasing the taxes outsourcers would have to pay if they stayed overseas) of the same thing your lousy excuse for a human candidate does. But you won't mention Mittens. Nope. He has a free pass.

How utterly hypocritical.

And so what? Why does it matter if Obama is meeting with minority leaders? They are Americans as well. Should he only meet with white republicans? Explain it to me.

John Gregoire (282)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 6:01 am
The next meeting will probably feature the former head of Solyndra??? What credibility this admin has! remember when they said they would have an open administration and respond to all citizens. Suddenly you need 25,000 signatures to get an answer and that is usually "we'll get back to you". What leadership we haven't.

Now we all have to figure out how to work with this and save the country. I think we can do that without militants like Sharpton.

Diane O. (195)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 6:13 am
Mitt Romney is a venture capitalist. He took more than several smaller companies public and they have soared. A venture capitalist has to make the hard decisions. If a company is underperforming they can either be helped through different management or they may have to close. You elected a man who never had a meaningful job in his entire life. Mitt Romney is an astute businessman. Successful businesses all over our country have to face cutting jobs to remain profitable.

Recently, a medical supply company cut 1,170 jobs because of Obamacare. So, you see, this isn't about Mitt Romney. This is about President Obama forcing companies to downsize or close because of the outrageous cost to a company by his mandated "healthcare tax." We will see many more companies fold over the next four years or they will move their companies overseas.

Every single one of Obama's 'green' companies went belly up. Obama needs all the help he can get to better understand economics and the business world. He has shown us that he is absolutely clueless. His past record in picking private sector winners is poor. The liberals know this. They just can't bring themselves to talk about Obama's many failures.

Linda C. (91)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 6:58 am
No where in this "astute" list do I see any that have the expertise to discuss how to avoid the financial crisis of recession. I see a lot of people that use entitlements and special interests as their speaking point, but no one that truly has the expertise to discuss how to avoid recession. Where are sound economists? Where are experienced businessmen/women (and there are those from both sides, liberals and conservatives)?

We all know that expanding government's role in people's lives is not going to answer the problem; and we all know that expanding entitlement programs is only going to bring the 'fiscal cliff' here faster.

Obamacare is already proving this error. People were sold the concept of "affordable health care". Let's put aside the fact that this is going to ruin business and thus ever expanding joblessness. Let's just talk about the ramifications. Who do people think will pay for this? It is easy to take the Obama position of raising taxes on the wealthy to pay for it, but that is not the case at all. That will only result in escalating joblessness as well. The people paying for Obamacare are going to be the very people that it is to help; uninsured and the elderly.

I realize that no one is going to accept this but let me explain. We already see that some restaurants have come out and stated they will add a surcharge to their menu items to help them cover the cost to them for having Obamacare for their employees. But that is just a small part. You will see all aspects of the food industry raise their prices, that includes the shippers that get those goods to the stores. You will see the cost of clothing, gasoline, utilities, entertainment, water, rent, loans for homes, banking fees, telephone service; everything that we consume will see a rise in cost. And that is on top of the cost to the individual for the coverage as it is not going to be a free ride from the employers; they only have to provide the ability to get the insurance and possibly pay a portion of the premium for the employee only.

Now, explain how this is "affordable health care" please.

Add the fact that more and more people will be out of work and it won't be only the wealthy that will be paying higher taxes, we all will. Instead of helping the middle class and low income, it is going to burden them in ways they never imagined.

But I firmly believe that only when the liberal supporters of Obama's policies find themselves at the bottom and no where else to go, then they just might recognize the error they made. But based on the current situation, they will continue to blame the Republicans as they have a real issue for accepting the responsibility for their own decisions; their leader certainly can't as he is still blaming Bush who has had not bearing on at least the past 2 years of failure of the current and re-elected administration.

Angelica C. (84)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 9:50 am
1. How can we avoid recession when we are still trying to climb out of the recession created in 2008?
2. Entitlements: Is this the tax breaks for the one percent, which cost this country $71 billion per year?
Is it the corporate subsidies given to outsourcers that favor SUPER PAC donations to the republican Congress and House and cost hundreds of billions per year? Cause when you come here and throw down a word like entitlements, let's be very clear on what you mean and what the entitlements actually are. You know, the difference between the two.
3. Those restaurants with those surcharges and also the businesses that are firing employees because Obama won - to hell with them. We don't need them anyway. If that's the way they want to treat American workers, I certainly can boycott each and every one of them. And I know others can, too.

Basically, I see the mass firings and lay offs as another dimension of the republican secession tantrum that is going on right now. I don't support secession. I support deportation en masse - and not voluntary, either. I think you guys should leave. Secession is a nice start. It doesn't go far enough.

I do not take the traitorous behavior of republicans lightly. And you all who want to secede are traitors.

4. Your ECONOMIC predictions are funny and amusing and you might have a nice future as a palm reader somewhere. This is more republican hand-wringing because, clutch the pearls, your guy didn't win. Your dire predictions, based upon nothing more than your dislike of the other candidate, are supposed to make us feel bad.

Romney didn't win. Get over it or leave and get out of our way.

BTW, can I help anyone here pack?

Arielle S. (316)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 10:46 am
Bravo, Angelica! When the CEO of Home Depot said anybody who voted for Obama should be shot, he lost my business forever - there are other stores who know how to deal. And yes, all those threatening to secede, all those making statements like the Home Depot CEO should be on a terror watch list. They are more concerned with their petty little whines than with the country.

Diane O. (195)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 10:53 am
Angelica, as usual, you missed the point entirely. This isn't about Romney losing by a few percentage points. This is about what ObamaCare will do to our country. Your flippant, "to hell with them we don't need them anyway" was a childish response to an adult discussion. And there's nothing 'traitorous" in your vernacular about 49% of Americans who actually have taken the time to learn and understand the escalating cost of this failed attempt at fixing healthcare.

Do you honestly believe the government can do a better job of running your personal healthcare needs? Then I direct your attention, once again, to the hard fact that the taxpayers for decades have been paying now at $60 billion a year in fraud and abuse. How does that happen? It happens when a government mismanages medicare and medicaid.

There will be more and more layoffs because companies simply cannot afford the mandated penalty requiring them to provide health insurance. They will end up paying over $2,000 a year for each employee on their payroll. Doesn't take a mathematician to add these numbers up and place them at the year end profit with a minus sign in front of it. What you are seeing now is just the tip of the iceberg.

Obama was never smart enough to be the POTUS. He has never been a leader in anything in his entire life. He's the puppet man. He has no ideas of his own.

What's "funny" is that many liberals will lose their jobs as a result of this. We'll check back with you later to see how you are coping.

Angelica C. (84)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 11:10 am
I agree with you totally, Arielle.

Funny, Diane. I don't think the tantrum throwers on your side are acting like adults at all. I think they are greedy and I, frankly, am tired of their whiny and constant complaining over not getting their own way. We have this funny little thing here called majority rule.

Obama won the popular vote. He won the electoral vote. If you don't like how it's done here, go live somewhere else. I am all for that pity-party disenchantment being turned into some action. I want to help you guys with packing.

Obama care is already saving lives and it hasn't fully gone into effect yet. It isn't perfect, but I have great hopes for it. Apparently, so do the majority of Americans. So stop whining.

"Obama was never smart enough to be the POTUS. He has never been a leader in anything in his entire life. He's the puppet man. He has no ideas of his own. "

He has really good ideas for reaching out to all Americans and making them accepted in our culture. He has ideas for jobs, and strengthening the economy. He has had trouble achieving those goals largely because of a House of Representatives that refuses to pass any of his legislation. So, whose fault is that? If you ask me, that inaction is a great reason not to ever vote republican again. Ever. They should be charged with treason for what they did on the transportation bill alone. Maybe you didn't hear about that. Your party refused to pass legislation that would ensure over one million jobs in repairing the infrastructure. They went on vacation instead.

If your republicans in the House had any strength of character, they would have resigned from their jobs, not just sit around on their fat white butts collecting tax payer money in high salaries. We are the tax payers they refuse to help because it might make Obama look good. That's as low as it gets, in my opinion.

But I bet you voted for them.


Cam V. (417)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 11:16 am
As long as Obama puts more value into mindless social justice 'experts' rather than true math you are screwed. Seems the fellow was right when he admited he could not help his daughter with her math homework.

As citizens we take responsiblity for our votes by following what our elected representatives are doing with them. The Congress has a strong mandate to hold the fiscal line. I hope they do that.

Arielle S. (316)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 11:33 am
The "fiscal line"? Would that be the one protecting the 1%?

I ask advice from a lot of people, Cam - doesn't mean I'll do what they suggest, doesn't mean they have to be experts. A wise man seeks the opinion of others - "The way of a fool is right in his own eyes, But a wise man is he who listens to counsel." Prov 12:15.

Diane O. (195)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 11:36 am
Al Sharpton is a credible mentor alright....he had over a $1 million lien placed on him for failing to pay state and federal taxes. Of course, this is who Obama would seek out "for advice." This dog and pony show just keeps right on rolling down the road to nowhere.

Diane O. (195)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 11:36 am
That's a nice quote, Arielle, but Obama isn't a wise man so this would not apply to him.

Angelica C. (84)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 11:58 am
That is your very bipartisan opinion, Diane.

Cam, as usual, you have stated nothing specific. You just make a lot of veiled innuendos and no follow up with facts.

"... social justice experts" are what the country voted for, Diane. Majority rule. We've had it since the Mayflower Compact - and that wasn't all about applying powdery make up, just in case you aren't sure.

Diane O. (195)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 1:11 pm
I would question what Al Sharpton could contribute because he broke the evasion means nonpayment of federal and state taxes. That was my point. Obama can solicit whomever he pleases but he would be a more credible president if he chose centers of influence who didn't have a tainted background specifically....those who break the law for nonpayment of taxes and end up with a lien against them.

Obama's socialist agenda is alive and thriving. During his second term Obama will push for a One World Order, and redistributing America's wealth to emerging countries so it is of vital importance that we scrutinize every move he makes.

I take back my comment that Obama isn't a wise man. I believe he is corrupt to his core, shifty, and pushing our country to bankruptcy while reducing our military capabilities to put America in her place.

Yes, Obama won, but he didn't win by much very little in fact and that translates into 49% of Americans are going to be riding him hard for the next four years. My hope is that the American people, I don't include the liberals, will once again send a strong message to congress in 2014 by eliminating more socialist democrats...progressives and replacing them with the concerned republicans who do believe in a stronger military and will stop Obama's efforts to take our country green in every aspect that we can think of.

Obama is a very dangerous man. He has no shame and he is anti-American. He supports Palestine not Israel. I'll be glad when he is gone in four years so that I never again have to look at him or hear his voice. History will show that Obama failed in his eight years to bring America to her knees and failed to turn our country into a socialist nation. Republicans are dedicated to stopping Obama at every turn.

Al Sharpton is not credible but that never stops Obama. Obama seems to prefer being around those who have a history of wrong doing.

Linda C. (91)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 1:25 pm
Angelica, would you please do me a favor, would you present documented facts and figures to support your claims, please. Are you currently subjected to Obamacare? I sat back and read your posted comments and have yet to see any reference to sites where I can find the facts to substantiate what you are presenting, therefore it must be only your opinion.

I am retired and on Medicare. I am dealing with and have for a full year, the ramifications of Obamacare on the elderly. Within 2 months of going on Medicare I saw my deductibles for primary care physician go up $10 per visit, my deductible for ER visits go up $15 dollars and my deductible for consultants go up $15 dollars. Seems Obamacare is supposed to be more affordable but I was fooled as raising deductibles is not making it more affordable for fixed income people like myself. I do not believe in getting everything for nothing, but when Obama and the liberals tried to sell us on how Obamacare was to benefit the elderly,uninsured and children, I have not seen that "affordable" part as yet. My primary care physician is not longer accepting Medicare so I was forced to find a new doctor. I have a booklet and in it are all the doctors that I am allowed to see; so much for complete freedom to find my own doctor; that includes any consultants, as well.
Where I used to be able to call and get an appointment the same day for emergencies, Obamacare has meant that I may have to wait as much as a month for that same care, forcing me to go to the ER and pay the higher deductible. How is this better? It is obvious to me that you are not yet experiencing the benefits of Obamacare; good luck to you when you do. And, you might want to talk to active and retired military and ask them how Obamacare has influenced their Tri-Care insurance; it is quite enlightening to see that they are experience as bad or worse. So again, once you go on Obamacare, good luck but do yourself a favor and don't expect what you were promised, it is not there.

Diane O. (195)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 1:40 pm
Linda, millions of Americans are opting now for "Concierge Medicine." Only doctors with the best medical reputations are asked to join. They charge a large annual fee but have reduced their patient load from 2,000 a month to 600 patients. You can have an appointment right away, and have direct access to your doctor. These doctors are not participating in ObamaCare and they want to provide a place for their patients to get excellent care in record time. The fee is worth every penny if one can afford it. They grandfather in their patients who are facing medicare enrollment and the fee makes up the difference for what medicare doesn't pay these deserving physicians. So, healthcare, as we have known it is, indeed, changing, but for millions of Americans it is going in the opposite direction of ObamaCare. 27 states have denied participating in ObamaCare. 20 states have confirmed thus far that they will not be participating...the rest will follow.

Capturing a country's healthcare is crucial to socialism. Absolutely crucial. Because without being in control over our medical care they cannot be in control of us. Why, may I ask, do we have to enroll in Medicare at age 65? Can anyone answer that question? The large majority of Americans can afford to pay for private insurance until the day they die. They don't need medicare and they don't want it. And, yet, they are made to enroll in it? Doesn't make sense to me. Yes, they have paid into it but many don't want to have it as their primary healthcare provider. Seems to me that the government could save a lot of money by allowing Americans to have their own private insurance carriers for as long as they wanted.

Your thoughts on that, Linda?

Diane O. (195)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 1:46 pm
The answer: it's socialized medical care thanks to democrat Lyndon B. Johnson. And we have $60 billion a year in fraud and abuse. The government shouldn't be managing our healthcare.

Angelica C. (84)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 9:35 pm

Steven's Story:

Linda, my mom is on medicare. She has a multitude of health issues. Her coverage has expanded this year. Have you read the new Medicare information book? Coverage has expanded.

What you fail to realize, Diane, is that for millions of people who have worked hard all their lives, this medicare or medicaid is all they have. And you would take it away from them and still support corporate welfare and tax breaks for the one percent. I think the majority have shown that they do not agree with you.


Roseann d. (178)
Tuesday November 20, 2012, 11:30 am
Diane O. is back from her post-election time-out. know what's truly laughable and pathetic at the same time...John Boehner putting Lyin' Ryan in charge the budget committee. What a joke. I hope we go over the fake fiscal cliff of the GOP's own creation. I don't mind going back to the Clinton rates when unemployment was low, there was no housing crisis, no debt crisis. Even if I were in the 1%, I wouldn't be greedy like you Diane. I'd want to pay my fair share for the betterment of society.

And stop your mythic mantra about "you can't tax the job creators...blah, blah." The government study that the GOP has suppressed stated there is absolutely no evidence of that. Also only 4% within the 1% are job creators...the other 96% of ya...what's your excuse for wanting your tax breaks? There's nothing worse than people like Diane being BOTH rich and a Freeloader.

Roseann d. (178)
Tuesday November 20, 2012, 11:33 am
And Cam what's your point? Are you saying these representatives of a significant portion of our society do not deserve a seat at the table? I see you GOPers are really working on changing your image problem. Don't worry Cam...your party isn't changing....It's just fading into oblivion and irrelevancy.

Roseann d. (178)
Tuesday November 20, 2012, 11:38 am
Oh and far as the Gov running our healthcare needs...I don't see the private sector doing such a great job. I see incredible waste from the private sector trying to scam the system and drive up costs. You know...It's a SICK System that Exploits Human Health for Profit on the stock market. That makes ill health a commodity. That's what's truly SICK. Healthcare is a basic human need and should be available to all. You would think with your pro-life would be behind that.

That's For Profit Privatization for ya. What a mess.

Diane O. (195)
Tuesday November 20, 2012, 11:41 am
It's important to have CREDIBLE PEOPLE AT THE TABLE. This means that their skin color can be red, blue, yellow or does NOT matter, but when you bring a tax evader to the table you prove that you aren't credible either.

And, Roseann, the next time you personally attack me know that I have flagged your comment. You can't personally attack me and I can't personally attack you, and never have, because it is against the Code of Conduct. So, please try to phrase your comments in an adult like format.


Roseann d. (178)
Tuesday November 20, 2012, 11:43 am
But YOU'RE also a Tax Evader Diane O. You know....only people who pay their fair share in taxes deserve a seat at the table. Since your party is coming up short...No pay, no say....that's the way forward!

Diane O. (195)
Tuesday November 20, 2012, 11:48 am
Roseann, you don't know me. You don't know anything about me. I pay my fair share of taxes. Are you one of the 47% of Americans who pay no taxes at all? What makes you think I'm in the 1% LOL?

Angelica C. (84)
Wednesday November 28, 2012, 2:33 pm
Re: the 47%
Should our soldiers, who are part of the 47%. have to pay taxes while they are overseas fighting in a war? I don't think they should. I think they should have free health insurance for life after serving in war, too. They and their families have made the ultimate sacrifice for this country. They should get something for that besides being denigrated by the GOP for being part of the 47%.
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