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Justice Department Leaks Memo "Legalizing" Murdering Americans


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Drones, drone strikes, DOJ, memo, John Brennan, assassinations, murder )

Angelika
- 530 days ago - warisacrime.org
Either there's a whistleblower in the Department of So-Called Justice about to be charged with espionage, and NBC is about to face the same persecution as WikiLeaks, or this is one of those "good" leaks that the White House wanted made public ...>



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Angelika R. (146)
Wednesday February 6, 2013, 3:08 pm
here is the memo. With a few tweaks and a more creative title -- like "Murder With Your Hands Clean" -- this memo could sell a lot of copies.

And why not? Either there's a whistleblower in the Department of So-Called Justice about to be charged with espionage, and NBC is about to face the same persecution as WikiLeaks, or this is one of those "good" leaks that the White House wanted made public in an underhanded manner -- perhaps as an imagined boost to morality-challenged CIA director nominee John Brennan who faces his Senate Rejection Hearing on Thursday.

The memo, which is thought to be a summary of a longer one, says the United States can murder a U.S. citizen abroad (abroad but somehow "outside the area of active hostilities" even though killing him or her seems rather active and hostile) if three conditions are met:

"1. an informed, high-level official of the U.S. government has determined that the targeted individual poses an imminent threat of violent attack against the United States;"

The memo goes on to base its claims on the supposed powers of the President, not of some random official. Who is such an official? Who decides whether he or she is informed? What if two of them disagree? What if he or she disagrees with the President? or the Congress? or the Supreme Court? or the U.S. public? or the United Nations? or the International Criminal Court? What then? One solution is to redefine the terms so that everyone has to agree. "Imminent" is defined in this memo to mean nothing at all. "The United States" clearly means anywhere U.S. troops may be.

"2. capture is infeasible, and the United States continues to monitor whether capture becomes feasible;"

And if a high-level official claims it's infeasible, who can challenge that?

"3. the operation would be conducted in a manner consistent with applicable law of war principles."

When a U.S. drone strike killed Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan, no one had shown either of them to meet the above qualifications.

When a U.S. drone strike targeted and killed 16-year-old Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, no one had shown him to meet the above qualifications; I don't think anyone has made such a claim to this day. And what about his cousin who died for the crime of being with him at the wrong time?

The sociopaths who wrote this memo have "legalized" the drone-killing of Americans with the exception of all the Americans known thus far to have been murdered by our government with the use of drones.
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 5:33 am
What a shame.
 

Abdessalam Diab (153)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 5:38 am
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Of course I can. Thanks Angelika
 

Dandelion G. (381)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 6:50 am
This is something that some of us realized when the NDAA was placed in. It has taken the American people a long time to realize what this NDAA is all about and still many fail to see it, even among the C2 people who are more active than others in learning what is going on. I said on various threads that I would not vote for anyone that would kill it's own citizens and a child at that. A 16 year old is a child, and whether he did or didn't he deserved to have a trial and treated as any other American to his full rights as a 16 year old citizen.

My claims were either ignored or dismissed everyone so afraid of "the other guy" getting in, that they keep voting for Obama or the one running on the other side. No one has gone after seriously on a President who condoned of torture either, George Bush and Dick Cheney who also got around the Clean Water Act by placing in the Fracking Loophole; more commonly known as the Haliburton Loophole. Now destroying our water, our very source of ablility to sustain life itself . So we have two Administrations that have gone totally against what we, as Americans had stood for or against. Yet, Americans still keep voting in this two Party system that has started killing it's own by destroying the environment, killing without trial and torture our own and others too.

I will NOT support these Parties who go against everything that this Country stood for and our Constitution. Is why I'm voting 3rd Party now. I'm not sure when everyone will wake up to these facts. I can't change the whole Country but I can start with myself. As the saying goes, Peace Begins With Me.....so too does My Vote. I will not support these actions. To place my vote to either Party head means I support what they are doing and I do not. I will look at individual Senators and the House members of both Parties and consider who to vote for. But as far as filling the White House, both Parties do fail this Country and the world trememdously.
 

Angelika R. (146)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 9:12 am
We all know your stand on this, Sheryl, can only repeat KUDOS to you and hope your example will be role model to many more! It will HAVE TO BE many, many more, millions, to get a chance for change!
 

Maria B. (7)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 10:06 am
There are already two other threads about this here on care2 and I am glad, that people becoming more and more concerned about what is going on rgiht now. I commented there and will do here also:

Since when can a government official make the decision to kill an American by drone ... when he "believes" that this person could be a threat? Only a judge can make such a decision after a trial! The government can't just have a free pass and go and kill citizens. This is scandalous!!
Obama killed with 300 drone strikes about 3.000 people! Can you imagen how many civilans and children were also killed in these strikes? How can they justify this?

The media is all over this now, finally!
Here is an excerpt from an interesting article from
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/02/06/f-vp-macdonald-us-drones.html

"Neil Macdonald: U.S. media complicit in Obama's drone doctrine"
"It’s also clear American media outlets are comfortable suppressing news the government does not want published. Today’s story reveals not just that the Americans have operated a secret drone base for years in Saudi Arabia, but that the Post, along with various other news organizations, have been keeping that fact to themselves at the government’s request.

"Obama's 'war on whistleblowers'
All these hardened security measures were begun under the Bush administration. President Obama, who once denounced them and even, as president, ordered Bush legal memos be made public, has not just amplified Bush’s programs, but has begun vigorously hunting down and prosecuting officials who leak details."

Here another interesting one:
http://www.thenation.com/blog/172694/outrage-mounts-media-over-obama-drone-kill-rules

"Outrage Mounts in Media Over Obama Drone 'Kill Rules' "
"Greg Mitchell on February 6, 2013 - 9:59 AM ET
On Monday night, NBC News revealed that leaked sixteen-page memo outlining (at last) the administration’s rules for drone strikes against US citizens abroad. Ever since, the chorus of criticism—mainly from progressives and media outlets long accused by conservatives of being “in the tank” for Obama—has grown to a deafening level."

 

Angelika R. (146)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 11:57 am
Thanks Maria, yes, and it will even grow stronger when the UN has completed their recently started investigation on civilian casualties caused by these drone strikes.
 

Maria B. (7)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 12:32 pm
I hope so Angelika ! iTS

Und Danke für den Grünen ! Englisch ist auch meine 2. Sprache neben Spanisch. Schön, dass ich auch mal was in Deutsch schreiben kann. Wünsche Dir noch einen schönen Abend!






 

Maria B. (7)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 12:37 pm
something was missing in my previous post.... It's about time that some investigation goes into these strikes!
Imagen how many civilians have been killed and children, who just happen to be around and haven't been warned and haven't been aware of these drone strikes! It is just unbelievable and so terrible!

Dandelion, you wrote some true things too!
 

Angelika R. (146)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 1:36 pm
One can expect that now dozens of lawyers will be busy analysing and defining the particular wording in the memo there. But it was necessary to let the PUBLIC know at least, even if chances to have these strikes limited are very slim, more than slim.
 

Angelika R. (146)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 1:36 pm
Just listen to J Brennan!..
 

Maria B. (7)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 1:45 pm
Me too. Is very interesting!
 

Darlene B. (297)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 4:43 pm
Public should be made aware of all news-it is the people who are affected by this crap.
 

Angelika R. (146)
Thursday February 7, 2013, 5:18 pm
Thankfully media IS widely giving attention to that!
I want to include the link here for the debate between N Solomon (co-founder of RootsAction and author) and Col.L Wilkerson on DemocracyNow-please DO WATCH !!
Ex-Powell Aide Lawrence Wilkerson Debates Author Norman Solomon

 

Angelus Silesius (66)
Friday February 8, 2013, 5:03 pm
This might lend official credence to the effect that Whitey Bulger and Steve Flemmi were granted immunity for crimes up to and including murder in service of the FBI
 

Dandelion G. (381)
Saturday February 9, 2013, 7:34 am
Being a former New Englander myself, I understand fully what you speak Jaime.
 
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