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NBC: We Don't DIG Occupation! - Take Action Please !


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Angelika
- 164 days ago - org.salsalabs.com
NBC is cooperating with Israeli authorities to produce a new action series, DIG, that will be set and shot in occupied East Jerusalem. Email NBC demanding not film in occupied East Jerusalem, not support this project seeking to whitewash occupation, >>>



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Angelika R. (146)
Friday February 14, 2014, 5:54 pm
Going through with this project in East Jerusalem means NBC is supporting Israel's grave violations of international law and makes the network complicit in Israeli crimes against Palestinians and efforts to whitewash human rights abuses.
More info can be found here> and the occupation.org
 

JL A. (272)
Friday February 14, 2014, 6:40 pm
signed via email, noted now Thanks for posting Angelika
 

jess b (22)
Friday February 14, 2014, 7:20 pm
I knew the 'archeological' dig was another guise to expel more Palestinians and annex more of their lands the moment I heard of it. The lies made up to execute this illegal takeover is disgusting and despicable.
Shame!
Signed (email)
 

Franshisca Dearmas (97)
Friday February 14, 2014, 7:32 pm
Noted and signed TY Angelika
 

AniMae Chi (393)
Friday February 14, 2014, 8:17 pm
SIGNED
 

Henriette Matthijssen (143)
Friday February 14, 2014, 10:11 pm
I signed, Thanks Angie.
 

Suheyla C. (229)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 3:10 am
Signed
Thank you Angie
 

Evelyn B. (38)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 5:11 am
I have noticed from the media that NBC/ the producers are being far from open about their site selection - one moment saying it won't be filmed in occupied territories (but hey, to zionist Israelis, Israel is the whole area between the Jordan River & the Med .... so no territory is occupied & they can film anywhere) then saying it will be filmed in E. Jerusalem.
Already acted ... And DIG will be on my black list of programmes never to watch
 

Daniel Partlow (189)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 5:37 am
S&N
 

Natasha Salgado (511)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 6:35 am
Done-thx Angelika
 

Angelika R. (146)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 12:14 pm
Well,inividual boycott of watching the show when it is aired, is one thing and not the goal of this petition. I think it's more important to try everything to at least interfere, if not stop NBC's proceedings with filming where they shouldn't. If enough potential viewers tell them, perhaps they may rethink a few aspects.
 

Kit B. (277)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 12:20 pm

Signed in my email. It's not the filming that bothers me, but lending an official acceptance of the settlements.
 

Angelika R. (146)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 12:30 pm
Comes out at the same Kit, it wouldn't be if they were not filming there, as it says in petition "whitewashing" settlements, occupation, human rights abuses etc..

* Corr.* that link in first comment should of course read ENDtheoccupation.org
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (277)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 4:15 pm
Thank you for taking action!
 

Ondine J. (131)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 6:53 pm
Noted and signed, thanks Angelika
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 7:20 pm
Slam dunked..:)
 

Devon Griffiths (15)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 10:19 pm
Noted and signed
 

Panchali Yapa (10)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 5:40 am
Thank you
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 9:44 am
East Jerusalem WAS occupied by the Jordanians from 1948 till 1967. When Jordanian army which was helped by the British generals, occupied East Jerusalem, all Jews were either murdered or expelled and all synagogues were demolished and Jewish homes occupied by the Muslims under Jordanian Muslim rule.

In 1967, in the third war waged against Israel since 1948 partition portion of Palestine west of Jordan, Israel liberated this portion of its ancient capital where Jews were in majority even in 19the century. Jordan today is East Palestine, which comprised 75% of total Palestine, which was given to the Kingdom of Jordan, while West Palestine was ruled by the British Mandate until the second partition in 1947-1948, when Brits abandoned it , and the genocidal Muslim armies attacked the new state of Israel, in order to destroy and loot it.

Israel had regained the control of their ancient capital Jerusalem and let mosques and Muslim stay to throw stone=s from the Temple mount to Jews who are praying at the Western Wall. Anybody who is so ignorant of history and current day jihad waged from within Israel is an ignorant person who should study the history of Israel and also Islam, which is the root cause of current days terrorism around the world, because Muslims are moving into Europe, Australia and Americans from their dysfunctional, corrupt 57 Muslim majority countries into West, which they want to occupy by their demographic growth. Read Koran to see why there can be no peace and/or end to terrorism as long as Islam ITSELF teaches hatred of ALL non-Muslims and particularly Jews (www.cspipublishing.com/pdfs/ATwoHourKoran.pdf).

Muslims delusional and genocidal Jew hatred is now sold as "fighting for poor Palestinians" by the politically correct fools like the author of this article, who do not know either history or supremacist ideology of islam which is the root cause of violence and terrorism nowadays and is moving into our midst with the massive influx of Muslims who are escaping hunger from their 57 Muslim majority countries and are often living on the back of working Europeans, Australians and Americans with their multiple wives, perpetuating "honor" murder by beheading, female genital mutilation, pedophilia and Taqiyya-Islamic principle Lying. Read http://www.islam-watch.org/warner/taqiyya-islamic-principle-lying-for-allah.htm to understand that you are tools in the propagating Nazi-like ideology ;-)!
 

Alexa R. (331)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 10:29 am
Can someone please explain to me how is Israel, or Israelis, supposedly 'occupying' a place when West Bank block A (Judea and Samaria) and Gaza are and have been 100% Judenrein, Judenfrei since 2005?!

The only way this gap in logic can be 'occupied' (bridged) is the age old witch hunt called antisemitism .. but renamed 'occupation' where I guess Israelis/Jews are thought to have the superpowers of 'occupying' West Bank Block A (Judea and Samaria) and Gaza even when these places are 100% Judenrein!

Or perhaps if the antisemites truly stop 'DIG'ing for 'occupation' where it does not exist, then Israel will have peace with its neighbours, even though its neighbours do not live in peace with each other ..

 

Ge M. (216)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 10:30 am
Of course Angelika never mentions Jordan which was actually to have been part of Israel and was given to the Arabs instead. It was for the people now known as the Palestinians who are third class citizens there despite the Queen being one herself.

Then we look at Cyprus, this is occupied by Muslims but that doesn't matter because they are Muslims so that's OK despite the fact that it belongs to Greece.

Then we have Tibet. Do you know I have never seen any of these objectors on a site about China destroying Tibet and the applying human rights abuses in both China and Tibet. Did you know (or even care) that Tibetan children are forced to learn to be Chinese and their way of life is being made illegal?

If you want true Palestinian suffering, look how Hamas and Hezbollah abuse their own people. Did you know (r even care) about the war crimes committed against Palestinian children in Gaza where the little children are taught to hate Jews and to fight with weapons? Or the other Muslim controlled countries in the Middle East treat Palestinians and refuse to allow them the nationality of the country in which they live, also a breach of human rights. That UNWRA encourage this and have made 4th & 5h generations refugees where no others have been allowed to exist as such.

And if you REALLY WANT HUMAN RIGHTS BREACHES, which I know that none of the anti-Semites care about, what about the over 20 MILLION SLAVES in the Muslim controlled countries in the Middle East? Or the ethnic cleansing of Christians? I must be deaf, I can't hear any of you objecting? Not a Palestinian so why should you care? As the other Palestinians do not live anywhere near Israel their suffering can be ignored.

What a load of hypocrites!

 

Vlasta M. (7)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 11:14 am
Zionism is a liberation movement of the Jewish people. There is ONLY ONE Jewish majority state, which aside from 6.5 millions Jews (75% of population of Israel) also houses 23% of Muslims and 2% of Christians who all are free to practice their religion in Israel. Ask any Muslim Arab living in Israel, if they would like to move to ANY Muslim country and the answer will be NO. They may like what Jews had accomplished in Israel to loot it, but not to move to ANY dysfunctional Muslim ruled country. There are 1,640 MILLIONS of Muslims in the world, compared with 14 millions of Jews, 110 FOLD more Muslims than Jews, living in an area that is 700 times large than Israel.

In contrast 57 Muslim majority countries in the world, have murdered or expelled their Jews and now they are expelling Christians. At the same time Muslims are moving to Europe, Australia and Americas where they are creating more terrorists by building mosques and teaching hate of their host countries and Western civilization while condoning pedophilia, polygamy, misogyny, dhimmitude (apartheid) loot and Murder for Allahu Akbar. "Honor' murders in the West committed on Muslim women or children are a part and parcel of this migration of Muslims into our midst.

Islam ITSELF is incompatible with US Constitution and the Universal Declaration Human Rights and has not place in any country that RESPECTS liberty, justice and hum,an rights.
 

Syd H. (48)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 11:14 am

Pfft! Cyprus does not belong to Greece! If you can be so wrong about that, then you are obviously wrong about everything else you claim. I've actually been there and talked to people on both sides, including those who were there before the division. It is its own country and part of the EU. Same with Greece.

 

Angelika R. (146)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 11:34 am
Agree with Syd, been there as well. I will not comment /respond to any ignorance here on thread period.
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 11:47 am
Ignorance is only on part of Angelica, Syd and others who are hiding their vile antisemitism under the cloak of "fighting for poor Palestinians". They should read Koran (www.cspipublishing.com/pdfs/ATwohourKoran.pdf and sent to Gaza and Saudi Arabia to understand the true nature of Islam, which is the ROOT of current days violence and terrorism. Perhaps they should also go to East London to see what the influx of Muslims had done to Great Britain and Europe. ISLAMIC teachings THEMSELVES are a severe violation of human rights of individuals because Islam DEMANDS SUBMISSION to vile teachings of a pedophile, polygamist, misogynist, rapist , looter and murderer Mohamed who in any decent society would be tried for his crimes and not emulated by 1,640 MILLIONS of Muslims worldwide who pretend that their supremacist ideology is just like any other religion.
 

Jonathan Harper (0)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 11:59 am
Ty
 

GGmaSheila D. (134)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 12:17 pm
Don't count myself as ani-Semite...guess I haven't kept myself up on Both sides of this fight...need to correct that before going crazy about either side. Way too many battles here and other ex-Democracies...Thanks for the info.
 

Angelika R. (146)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 12:23 pm
On-topic comments only please, thanks. (this is not diredted at Sheila with whose views and TERMS i agree)
Either sign the petition or don't, simple.
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 1:16 pm
Signed & noted. Many thanks for posting, Angelika.
 

jess b (22)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 2:58 pm
Condemnation of human rights' violations under International Law and the fourth Geneva Convention, including illegal settlements and settlement building is the issue.
Criticism of Israeli policies have nothing to do with 'anti-semitism'.
Any such claims are red herrings and, clearly, disingenuous.
 

Stan B. (124)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 3:07 pm
Yet another inane, boring shot at Israel. Not noted, not signed and not worthy.



" Jerusalem’s Jewish connection dates back more than 3,000 years. Even after Jews lost control of the city in 70 CE, a Jewish spiritual and physical bond with Jerusalem remained unbroken, despite 2,000 years of dispersion.
Although Islamic dynasties controlled Jerusalem for some 1,300 years, they never once made it the capital of an Arab state. Even Jordan, which controlled part of the city for 19 years, until 1967, refrained from making it its capital. Furthermore, Jerusalem is never mentioned in the Quran, Islam’s most holy book.
Given the central role Jerusalem plays throughout Jewish history; given Arabs dismal record toward the rights of Jews and Christians in a sensitive, sacred city like Jerusalem; and coupled with the Arabs’ horrific record of bringing carnage to the City of Peace; Israel has a legal, historical and moral right to control Jerusalem as its undivided capital.

Jerusalem must remain a unified capital under Israel’s exclusive sovereignty in order to protect the interests of the Jewish people and as the only guarantee that the interests of all other faiths will be protected."

From myths and facts. Everything else is detail.

 

jess b (22)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 3:13 pm
Demolishing Homes, Demolishing Peace

Itay Epshtain
Publication date:

Political and Normative Analysis of Israel's Displacement Policy in the OPT

The report provides a political and normative analysis of the root causes and consequences of Israel's displacement and demolition policy, focusing on the demolition of Palestinian homes and other structures in the occupied West Bank.
.- See more at: http://www.icahd.org/node/242#sthash.irpnGBYE.dpuf
 

Angelika R. (146)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 3:16 pm
Sunday February 16, 2014, 2:58 pm
Condemnation of human rights' violations under International Law and the fourth Geneva Convention, including illegal settlements and settlement building is the issue.
Criticism of Israeli policies have nothing to do with 'anti-semitism'.
Any such claims are red herrings and, clearly, disingenuous.

- Sign the pettion or don't. That's all!
 

jess b (22)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 3:19 pm
Subject: NBC Shouldn't Film in Occupied East Jerusalem

I am writing to ask that NBC make clear it will not be involved in any way with the production and marketing of the series DIG. This includes not filming in any part of occupied East Jerusalem and not cooperating with any official Israeli government bodies there on this project.

East Jerusalem is not a museum, an archaeological site, or a movie set. It is an area illegally annexed by Israel. It is a Palestinian city under Israeli occupation. It is the site of illegal Israeli settlements and daily Israeli abuses against Palestinians including home demolitions, land confiscation, and residency revocation.

Filming in East Jerusalem will obscure Israel’s violations of international law and amounts to complicity in war crimes, especially if the series is being produced in cooperation with and funded by the same government bodies responsible for committing these crimes.

NBC has taken a right step by committing to not filming in the Palestinian neighborhood of Silwan. I join more than 20 Palestinian groups in calling on the network to explicitly commit not to film in any part of occupied East Jerusalem, not to cooperate with Israeli government bodies there, and not to support this project that seeks to whitewash Israeli human rights abuses.
 

Birgit W. (140)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 3:30 pm
Petition signed, thanks Angelika.
 

Patsy Olive (0)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 3:31 pm
Noted & tweeted.
 

Eternal Gardener (703)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 4:33 pm
Signed and noted, with thanks!
 

Val R. (228)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 7:11 pm
Thanks Angie -
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 11:52 pm
I'm just waiting for the MSNBC coverage of the politics involved in this program. Will Rachel Maddow go after her own bosses now?
 

Shil O. (0)
Monday February 17, 2014, 7:39 am


The so-called “Occupied Palestinian Territories” are neither Palestinian nor occupied. When the United Kingdom unilaterally withdrew from its Mandate in May 1948, it left a legal void that was filled by the newly declared (and borderless) State of Israel. There was no Arab declaration of Independence on the territory that had been allocated to an Arab state by the UN partition plan of November 1947. That plan, in any case, was a non-binding recommendation (like all General Assembly resolutions) and it became moot the moment it was rejected by the Arabs. The British Mandate, by contrast, had been allocated to the Jewish people for self-determination by the 1920 Treaty of Sèvres and by the 1922 League of Nations Mandate.

When Transjordan conquered the West Bank in 1948 and annexed it in 1950, it did so on a territory that had been allocated to Jewish self-determination by post-World War I international treaties. Hence Jordan’s sovereignty over the West Bank was never recognized by the international community (with the exception of Britain and Pakistan). When Israel conquered the West Bank in June 1967, it did so in a legitimate act of self-defense (as opposed to Jordan’s military aggression in 1948). Israel did not cross an international border, but a temporary armistice line. It did not conquer a recognized sovereign territory, but one that had been allocated to the Jewish People by the League of Nations and that had been unlawfully controlled by Jordan for 19 years.

Therefore, many international lawyers dispute the assertion that the West Bank is an occupied territory and that the 1949 Geneva Convention applies to it. Article 49 of the convention, which prohibits the mass transfer of populations into occupied territories, was meant to prevent what was a common German practice during WWII, not the voluntary settlement of Jews in a land that was allocated to them for that very purpose by the League of Nations.
 

Ms Noting Commentator (21)
Monday February 17, 2014, 11:06 am
I will not sign or note!

I feel the annexation of Israel in 1948 was established and still should be honored!

We have lands granted and established for U.S. Native American Indian tribes. When the U.S. government felt the land was not worth anything, the government ignored the lands. As times changed and the Native American began educating their children for a better future, the younger generations developed and invested in their tribes’ lands and most became very wealthy. When the tribes were increasing in wealth, our U.S. government was circling and hovering over the lands and trying to find legal ways to get their grubby administrative and legislative hands on the Native American lands.

The recent Lakota Tribe issue is an excellent example!!! The U.S. government wanted to construction the Keystone XL pipeline through Lakota land. The tribe’s people non-violently blocked TransCanada’s tar sands mining trucks and fought legally for enforcing control of their own land and WON!!!

We cannot have double standards because of prejudices towards certain races and cultures. What is good for one is good for another internationally. The U.S. has no right in representing this stand, especially after Israel’s annexation!!!
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Monday February 17, 2014, 11:19 am
Neither the League nor the U.N. has the authority, under the Westphalian state-system, to allocate territory to a country. That can only be done by local agreement or following realities of war (as occurred in 1949). That is not to say that the "Occupied Territories" actually fall under the legal definition today. They did, arguably, fall under that definition between 1867 and the peace treaties between Israel and Egypt, and between Israel and Jordan, but since then the state of war no longer applies. Besides, by systematically, formally, blatantly, and thoroughly disregarding the relevant convention, Palestinians as a unit in international relations have forfeited protection under them as dictated under Article 2, Paragraph 3 (which is the same in all of the Geneva Conventions).

From what I understand, under the peace treaties (at least with Jordan), Israel agreed to administer the territories on behalf of Palestinians until a further agreement could be worked out with them. That would make Israel a mandate-power (ruling with a mandate to prepare them for independent statehood). Even then, both the settlements deep within those territories and on their borders (like in East Jerusalem) are entirely legal. For the first who could reasonably argue that implanting economic hubs which massively boost the Palestinian economies is bad for their eventual state, or that implanting a culture that can demonstrably produce a modern functional tolerant democracy could be bad for nation-building? For the second, those original mandates never dictated anything about the borders of any eventual Palestinian state (or even really that there would be such a state or states) so should Israel determine that those regions are not really viable as part of a Palestinian state in a peace-agreement, then it is the mandate-state's prerogative to make that call and not treat them as parts of the mandate-territory.
 

Ge M. (216)
Monday February 17, 2014, 12:02 pm
Angelika never responds to anything to which she knows she cannot win because she doesn't care about the truth.

Syd, I used to live in a community with both Cyprus Greeks, Cyprus Turks, Turks & Greeks. My elder son used to go to Greek summer school as one of my close friends there is Greek Cyprus and his best friend was Turkish. I suspect that I know a little bit more about it than you do.

And I still see in the comments, ignorance, hatred and bigotry, no looking at the truth.
 

Fred H. (31)
Monday February 17, 2014, 6:33 pm
How ironic...this is actually the first time since the previous Nation of Israel (thousands of years ago) that Jerusalem is NOT occupied. Before the 1967 War, Jerusalem was occupied by Jordan. (Angelika's circle never complained about that occupation, or about the Jews who were expelled, or about the Jews who were not allowed to worship, but now that everyone is free to worship in Jerusalem, they complain. What an anti-Semitic double standard!) Anyway, before Jordan occupied it, the British occupied it. Before them, it was the Ottomans. Before them, the Arabs. Before them, the Romans. And on and on.
 

Gloria Morotti (1)
Monday February 17, 2014, 10:16 pm
Signed. Thanks.
 

jess b (22)
Tuesday February 18, 2014, 12:17 am
"One thing I know for sure: this incessant trashing of Kerry by Israeli ministers, and their demand that Palestinians halt all "incitement" - but that Israel be free to keep building settlements in their face - is not winning Israel friends in Europe or America."

-- New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, February 4, 2014
 

Ge M. (216)
Tuesday February 18, 2014, 11:21 am
jess what is Abbas doing to promote the peace apart from refusing to negotiate? If the Palestinians really wanted peace, why did Abbas refuse to negotiate when Israel stopped building settlements, at his request? Arafat did that, he rejected peace twice and comprehensively despite being offered over 90% of his demands.

So, why are none of you blaming the Palestinians for the failure of talks? Why are you not blaming them for stoning civilian cars to cause accidents, which does happen? Why are none of you blaming Hamas for war crimes? It wouldn't be because all of you are - shock, horror - anti-Semitic? Anti-Israel? Or just down right racist?

 

Ge M. (216)
Tuesday February 18, 2014, 11:23 am
Now, why do none of you do anything about North Korea? Oh, sorry, not Palestinian!! No Israel involved so none of you care.

Angelika, this is relevant because it shows how little you, and the pathetic satellites, really care about genuine human rights.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/02/17/U-N-Report-Shows-Difference-Between-Rodman-s-Fantasy-Island-And-North-Korea-s-Prison-Camps?utm_source=e_breitbart_com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+February+18%2C+2014&utm_campaign=20140218_m119240175_Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+February+18%2C+2014&utm_term=Kim-Jong-Un-is-amusement-park-AFP_jpg_3Fw_3D145
 

Kathleen R. (138)
Tuesday February 18, 2014, 2:37 pm
signed & noted
 

jess b (22)
Tuesday February 18, 2014, 9:35 pm
Anyone wishing to post on North Korea is welcome to. Note, it is off topic here.
Sign or don't sign.
 

Alexa R. (331)
Tuesday February 18, 2014, 11:06 pm
Pro-Israel liberals supported minorities in America and the Middle East. John Judis supports minorities in America and opposes them in the Middle East; choosing Arab Nationalism and Islamic Supremacism over a majority-minority state that has protected the rights of Jews and other regional minorities.

The anti-Israel left champions Palestinian nationalism in the name of democracy and human rights for a “state” whose president is on the tenth year of his four year term and whose human rights don’t exist.

The “Palestinian” case that Judis retroactively constructs is a modern invention and he admits as much. Liberals of the day, like Bartley Crum of the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry on Palestine, heard from Dr. Hitti of the Institute for Arab-American Affairs that there was no such entity as Palestine.

Ahmad Shukeiri, before he became the first Chairman of the PLO, told the UN Security Council that, “Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria.” Abu Nidal, the ultimate Palestinian terrorist, proclaimed, “Palestine belongs to Syria.” Azmi Bishara, the Arab Israeli MK who fled the country after collaborating with Hezbollah, said in a television interview, “I think the Palestinian nation is a colonial invention.”

Judis dismisses Jewish nationalism as a 19th century invention, when it’s Palestinian nationalism that is a late 20th century invention.

source
 

jess b (22)
Wednesday February 19, 2014, 1:02 am
International law is clear: Israeli settlements are illegal.
http://ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/illegal.html
 

Ge M. (216)
Wednesday February 19, 2014, 5:57 am
jess, since when have you been interested in international law? However, I note that you still have not commented on the fact that the Palestinians have no legal or moral right to any land in Israel and that is also international law and been upheld in an international court. Or do you just pick and choose which laws you like?

Of course, you have also failed to comment on the Palestinians in countries such as the Lebanon. Try this

http://www.anera.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/LEBRefugeeReport.pdf

Of course, this means that you can't have a go at Israel so it is unlikely that you or Anglika or any other anti-Semite will look
 

jess b (22)
Wednesday February 19, 2014, 9:08 am
Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949 prohibits any and all population transfers from the occupying power to occupied territory. The International Court of Justice unanimously found that Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territory breached Article 49.

The fundamental point about settlements is that they are illegal. Occupied territory is not under the sovereignty of the occupant. It cannot treat the territory it occupies as it sees fit. An occupant's powers are circumscribed by international law, which unequivocally prohibits the settlement of part of its population, whether forcible or voluntary, in that territory. While this prohibition arises from Article 49, Article 1 requires parties not merely to respect the terms of the convention in their own conduct but also to ensure that others do. All states are party to the Geneva Conventions, therefore all states have the duty to ensure that Israel's illegal policy of creating settlements in occupied Palestinian territory ceases.
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Wednesday February 19, 2014, 2:25 pm
Hi Jess,

Unfortunately, the ICJ demonstrated bias regarding Israel during proceedings and in its ruling regarding the barrier built to separate it from the West Bank. It found even those sections within Israel's pre-1967 borders to be illegal. Not only is it legal for a government to erect defensive structures of any sort it deems appropriate within its territory, but this is actually standard practice along non-peaceful borders. As the ICJ made no generalization of the ruling to apply to the border between North and South Korea, India and Pakistan, or any other violent border, it demonstrably applied a double-standard regarding Israel.

Your reading of Article 1, is just wrong. The paradigm of enforcement of the Geneva Conventions is very clearly spelled out in Article 3: It is to be handled by a system of reprisals and not by interventionism. Failure to abide by one set of terms of a convention releases others from specific obligations under them towards the violating party such that any advantage gained by the violation is negated. In this case, were the settlements truly illegal, then their impact on demographics would simply be ignored when considering self-determination of disputed regions following a peace-agreement. As it stands, in negotiations, this appears to be occurring.

I'm quite glad that the Geneva Conventions are handled by reprisal rather than intervention because no convention with interventionist enforcement has ever had a good track-record. The classic example used for those is the convention against genocide, which just led governments to avoid recognizing genocides in order to avoid legal responsibility for intervention. I understand there are also some multilateral trade-conventions with such enforcement-methods (with unfair subsidies in free-trade areas demanding boycotts or sanctions), and that those tend to fail utterly as well.
 

Carol Dreeszen (364)
Wednesday February 19, 2014, 10:32 pm
Stephen..I admire your wisdom for such a young man! Great replies!!

My opinion is before anyone signs a petition it would be very wise to understand what exactly it is saying...if it is filled with lies then it's not wise IMO to sign it! Can't sign it!
 

Ge M. (216)
Friday February 21, 2014, 8:23 am
jess, under international law the Palestinians have no claim to any land in Israel so what are you waffling on about?

In fact, the Palestinians have clearly stated that they will not accept any peace with Israel so Israel is on a hiding to nothing. But you are singularly silent on a piece of international law that doesn't interest you as it presents Israel in a good light. Nor do you ever comment on the many breaches of international law ie human rights that the Muslim controlled countries in the Middle East breach. But it would be singularly boring to note that they abuse Palestinians with far more offenses than any Israel is alleged to have committed. Also, the illegal treatment of non-Muslims within their country should they allow them in.
 
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