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Randy L
- 2965 days ago -
Up yours, scientists. That's essentially the message sent by former politician Sarah Palin during a recent speech to the Southern Republican Leadership Conference. . .

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Randy L Benson (65)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 6:56 pm
This reminds me of the words of one of the great haters in history:

"We shall not indulge curiosity. . .should not speak, or think,or even desire to know, concerning obscure subjects, anything beyond the information given in the Divine Word." - John Calvin, 'Institutes of Christian Religion'

or an earlier advocate of ignorance and blind belief:

"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudmients of the world, and not after Christ." -'Saint' Paul, Colossians 1:8

. . .seems to me she fits right in. . .

Bill K (4)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 6:57 pm
The ignorant of the world have finally found their leader. We don't need all this science "stuff" anymore. We have Sarah.

. (0)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 7:11 pm
Almost every day she says something even more stupid than what's gone before. Incredible.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 7:11 pm

Exactly, Bill (and Kozure) . . . "She don't need no stankin' science!"


Past Member (0)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 7:14 pm
Palin: "Shucks! Thar ain't no global warnin, duh huh!" Bet she believes the earth is flat too.

Randy L Benson (65)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 7:26 pm
Let's see. . .

her glasses, jewelry and cosmetics were all developed by

--what's that, kiddies?


her clothing. . .every particle, business suit and underwear and whatever else, accessories included. . .was shaped and molded and threaded and created and made accessible through

--what's that, kiddies?


unless she walked from Alaska to the convention, or rode an animal there, every inch of the transportation came through the benefits of

--what's that, kiddies?


anyone she speaks to who's farther than her voice hears her, and talks back, due to

--what's that, kiddies?


Okay, kiddies.

Now you can see for yourselves the difference between ignorance and hypocrisy. True science recognizes its inherent ignorance, and attempts to reduce it, thereby increasing the understanding of the cosmos and making life better for all.

Hypocrisy attempts to cover up its deficiencies by dogmatically stating it knows everything, while utilizing the benefits brought about by that selfsame recognition and reduction of ignorance; i.e., science.

Tomorrow's lesson: ideological fashion sense, and its more humorous applications in media appearances.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 7:31 pm

Well, I have to add something else. After being subjected to her too many times on camera (which, for me, is more than once) . . . I've noticed that she seems to think she has her finger on the pulse of ALL Americans (and, therefore, feels qualified to speak on every American's behalf).

Now, granted, I've considered "pouffing" my hair, and speaking with an endearing twang, while sportin' designer clothes . . . but I STILL can't repress that sensation of wanting to vomit!

. (0)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 7:41 pm
You're braver than me, Carole. I either change the channel or put the TV on mute.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 7:44 pm

I usually don't watch tv (just have it on in the background). By the time I turn around to see "WTF?" -- I'm not sure if it's really her or Tina Fey spoofin' her! (Not that there's any difference.)


Roseann d (178)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 8:52 pm
What's not Snake Oily about that crazy windbag?

Roseann d (178)
Sunday April 11, 2010, 8:55 pm
You would think Wailin Palin's followers who are always spouting off about Creationism and Intelligent Design would want to be consistent instead of ruining the planet with their Moronic Destruction. Goes to show it's all Lip Service... on a Pig

. (0)
Monday April 12, 2010, 2:50 am
Thanks for info!!! I noted!!

Jean Lord (46)
Monday April 12, 2010, 3:24 am

Randy L Benson (65)
Monday April 12, 2010, 3:33 am

Glenda L (0)
Monday April 12, 2010, 3:55 am
She's really beneath comment, I'm just doing this to get the points to donate to something good. We should all just ignore her, stop giving her publicity, and watch her float away into history.

Rebecca G (7)
Monday April 12, 2010, 4:23 am
Ya know - Are we sure that she is ONE OF US???? OR.......did this THING HATCH FROM A POD........I've never heard anything coming from that mouth that even MAKES SENSE - and DUHHHH.....some humans VOTED for THAT TO BE A HEARTBEAT AWAY FROM THE PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!! SCARY AIN'T IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Terry B (649)
Monday April 12, 2010, 4:45 am
Only interesting because this dimwit actually has followers doing a pretty good job of raising America to the scientific and educational level of Yemen or Somalis.

Mary S (1)
Monday April 12, 2010, 5:04 am
I prefer Tina Ray mayself, she knows she is a comedian, while Sarah thinks she is brilliant.

Shevlin R (10)
Monday April 12, 2010, 5:08 am
An idiot speaking to, and for the entertainment of, greater idiots.

Jo Ann Pate (6)
Monday April 12, 2010, 5:13 am
She's scary.

cecily w (0)
Monday April 12, 2010, 5:24 am
With her killin' and breedin' skills, she wants to zap us back to the 19th Century.

Rajee Seetharam (138)
Monday April 12, 2010, 5:39 am
Noted with thanks.

Cathy Aronson (67)
Monday April 12, 2010, 5:45 am
Too bad she hasn't walked to the edge of the Earth and fallen off it's flat surface! She really needs to go away....far, far, away! Why do I feel that the people who support her and follow her would drink the Kool Aid??

Jon T (59)
Monday April 12, 2010, 7:23 am
The ignorance that wanted to elect her is almost as scary as hers - but Kozure please don't confuse her views with mainstream Christianity.

. (0)
Monday April 12, 2010, 7:37 am
Some who wish to keep the world in ignorance,dream once again of turning the clock back to the times of "the Scopes monkey trial" of 1925.which resulted in the teacher Scopes being tried,convicted and fined for the crime of having taught from a biology textbook which explained evolutionary theory..This sucessful prosecution resulted in several other states taking the step of removing Darwinism from school textbooks.Though it would be fair to say that such primitive belie's have seen a resurgence since the rise of "the moral majority "and it's impact within mainstream America.
Palin is merely a symptom of this right wing fundamentalist culture..she isn't clever enough to be innovative or original.
This hard right have imbued questions of faith and science with their own knee-jerk politics and created a God that puts America first,hates gays and loves greed..This group have also worn their anti-scientific credentials as a badge of honour..and part of that credo is ignoring /despising the science on human made climate change..which fits in nicely with their support for big oil and polluting industries..the most disastorous outcome of this elevation of ignorance was former President Dubya sabotaging the attempts on the part of responsible nations to take meaning measures against climate change.
Palin and her ilk are on one level laughable..but on other levels very dangerous..especially when they have power..and now when they stir up others to mob hatred..
In their unshakeable ignorance and manipulation of the baser emotions of others these people would condemn us all..

Past Member (0)
Monday April 12, 2010, 8:42 am
she's a smart one. Can you imagine what it would have been like if she was in the white house. I'm not saying that are group is better, but sure as hell smarter.

Tierney G (381)
Monday April 12, 2010, 9:27 am
LOL!!!! OMG Sarah get your dinosaur ready! LOL!!

Monday April 12, 2010, 11:14 am
too funny, I agree with Rebecca......Mulder and Scully should be brought in to investigate for alien brain snatching!

. (0)
Monday April 12, 2010, 12:39 pm
Bev, you are assuming that Palin once had a brain. I"m not so sure.

Past Member (0)
Monday April 12, 2010, 12:40 pm
when she opens her mouth, obama looks better. maybe there will be a second term.

Deanna Dsouza (1)
Monday April 12, 2010, 12:47 pm
She is the reason women will have an even more difficult time being taken seriously in politics in the future. Yes--I am a woman and I shed a tear every time I hear her speak or read anything she says. =(

Craig Zimmerman (86)
Monday April 12, 2010, 12:57 pm
I worry about the people that buy into the anti-science rhetoric from the right. In my opinion, the future of our planet is at stake.

Mary Alexander (23)
Monday April 12, 2010, 2:11 pm
She is so scary. I agree with Craig Zimmerman I am concerned about those that believe in her anti-science rhetoric. They also need to be watched along with Palin.

Patricia N (41)
Monday April 12, 2010, 2:35 pm
She needs to put a sock in it!

Mary Donnelly (47)
Monday April 12, 2010, 3:37 pm
Thanks Kozure.

Sarah Palin gets lots of things wrong; occasionally she gets something right. Were there a profitable market for various renewable energy technologies they would be developed quickly.

writer fool (36)
Monday April 12, 2010, 3:52 pm
I agree. she IS scary, very scary. Makes one wonder what the heck her supporters are thinking... she says "we americans", as if the rest of the americans, who dont agree with her are foriegn.... We should all be assured she and her compatriots have taken a page out of 'mien kampf'.

pam M (98)
Monday April 12, 2010, 4:09 pm
You're on it Kozure

Monday April 12, 2010, 4:25 pm
is that a wolf pelt she is speaking into?

Randy L Benson (65)
Monday April 12, 2010, 4:38 pm
I don't confuse Sarah Palin with mainstream Christianity, Jon T, and I won't. But she is emblematic of a form of Christian extremism which is no different than Muslim extremism.

Extremist fundamentalist religion is always dangerous, no matter what the faith. There are also been many good things brought about by organized religion, but--mainstream or not--it remains a tool of sociopolitical control. It always has been.

And I have a bad problem with being controlled, covert or overt.

In that respect, I must admit that I have no trouble with religion. I have trouble with organized religion. More blood has been spilled over religious belief than over any political goal.

Elsewhere, I posted a story about a study which appears to confirm that Christian religious terms influence prejudice against Afican-Americans. This is self-evident, just by noting the makeup and history of the country. If our population were predominantly Hindu, that would have influenced prejudicial beliefs. The same if we were Muslim or Buddhist.

We're in danger of a populist uprising. The twisting of religion is often a time-honored tool in such events. Which is why me must separate extremist Christianity from mainstream, just as we must separate extremist Islam from the mainstream.

Deborah O (98)
Monday April 12, 2010, 4:47 pm
And so Palin joins the ranks of great thinkers like Victorian doctors who thought handwashing was unnecessary and that the most frequent medical problem of their female patients was "hysteria". I wonder what Sarah's science teachers are thinking right now.

Carrie B (306)
Monday April 12, 2010, 4:58 pm
I just can't believe there are any intellegent Americans who take this idiot seriously! What's going on here? The stupid leading the more stupid?

Past Member (0)
Monday April 12, 2010, 5:18 pm

Randy L Benson (65)
Monday April 12, 2010, 5:23 pm
This country has been dominated by fear since 911, and from then on fear has repeatedly been manipulated by individuals and groups to reach their goals. She's not all to blame. There are a great many people who are afraid right now for their homes and families and future.

If people feel their leadership has failed or neglected them, they will seek anyone who offers them a way out, rather than take responsible action themselves.

This is how Hitler gained power.

We create our own monsters. They don't come from outside.

The psychoanalytic works of Erich Fromm detailed these processes quite beautifully, although he wrote in the aftermath of World War II. Works such as 'Escape From Freedom' and 'Man For Himself' are eminently applicable to the years of the Cheney Administration. Although I preferred his 'Anatomy Of Human Destructiveness' and 'The Art Of Loving'.

Sarah Palin is in many respects another Huey Long, though there are differences. Rather than mere authoritarianism, as with the past Administration, she promotes a populism which is even more dangerous. And with our present state of media technology, she has the opportunity to do more than Huey Long ever dreamed of.

For a historical opinion of mine, concerning the psychological makeup of this country, I refer you to a recent share I made:

I've already been attacked by Teabaggers at other sites where this has been posted.

Rebecca Y (26)
Monday April 12, 2010, 5:50 pm
Palin has her head where all the other Republicans have theirs!

Anne K (139)
Monday April 12, 2010, 5:55 pm
My reaction is unprintable...JFC!

Take deep breaths... Om

Randy L Benson (65)
Monday April 12, 2010, 6:18 pm
Remember what Alan Watts said, Anne. . ."If you can't meditate in a boiler room, then you can't meditate".

It's a struggle for anyone who uses the brain God gave them.

Monday April 12, 2010, 6:23 pm
This woman is dangerous. Can you imagine if she actually had some real power? ugh...I shudder to think of it!
Please don't let anyone you know ever vote for her for anything other than 'most dangerous person in America'.
I wish she would go back under that rock she slithered out from under...and stay there.
Although, she won't if we keep giving her publicity because megalomaniacs like her love publicity...even BAD publicity.
IGNORE HER! ...maybe she'll go away!

Tamila F (3)
Monday April 12, 2010, 7:18 pm
Anyone who believes this nonsense is just as stupid as she is. Who the heck is this woman anyway, she's got nothin' until the people give it to her. Just stop with the Palin embarrasment, ok. I continue to be puzzled by her popularity with the republicans. I guess, "Stupid is as Stupid does" Great quote by the way, wish I had thought of it. Forget republican or democrat, be a real person and think for yourself. If you think as she does, either you or we are doomed. They seem to be pumping her up for the next Presidential race, God help us if that happens. She would be the easiest person in the world to control, but then, that's what the politicians want, don't they.

Alice B (241)
Monday April 12, 2010, 8:44 pm
The Repubs encourage stupid eejits like Mean Girl a.k.a. Killer Barbie a.k.a. Sarah Stupidity Palin to blather the most ridiculous anti-intellectual anti-science anti-Nature sewage, because it keeps the rich stinking rich. Ignorance is not her problem - it isn't that she doesn't KNOW - it's that she HATES WISDOM and REVELS IN TRIVIALIZING ALL DISCOURSE. As long as she gets lots of attention from the mainstream media, and keeps the money rolling in, that's all she cares about. (She definitely doesn't have time to learn anything but pre-scripted soundbites - no reading or thoughtful learning allowed!!)
Even Dubya read books - albeit I suspect his were all "pop-up" books! :{

Matloob ul Hasan (81)
Monday April 12, 2010, 9:39 pm
Noted, thanks.

Cam V (417)
Monday April 12, 2010, 9:49 pm
What is wrong with the thinking that it is time for America to kick the corporations in the arse and start drilling for your own oil and gas here? It was Palin who has pointed out that these big corporations are overseas raping third world countries of their reserves for pennies. Having no regard for the enviromental disasters they are causing over there just because they can and letting America being blamed for the mess? Those practices would NEVER be allowed in North America because our standards are far too high. We would not allow them to get away with it. We here in Canada have been your biggest supplier of oil and gas for about the last ten years with no problems. Palin was right on when she said it is time to bring these corporations home and under the thumb of our enviromental agencies. Drill here and drill now. It will create badly needed jobs in America and from those others will follow.

If you want something done ask a man .... If you want something done right - ask a woman.

Randy L Benson (65)
Monday April 12, 2010, 10:41 pm
I agree to some extent about the corporations, Northern. And there are things that could be done here. But she is not the first to point this out, not by a long shot. People have been complaining for years about it.

I, for one, don't like Obama's bailouts, because they support the banks and companies that screwed things up, for that matter. They should have died out, and the money should have gone to the people, especially small business owners.

I damn sure don't like his poilicies on Afghanistan and terrorism. It reinforces the mistaken, wrong-headed methods and attitudes of the Cheney Administration.

From what I've read (and please correct me if I'm wrong), the biggest victims of unemployment here (not the only ones) are the older members of the workforce which find it difficult or impossible to transform to an economy based on information services. This seems to be the way the world is heading. To those of us who have labored for decades in an Industrial Revolution society, it is very, very difficult to relate to or embrace the Information Revolution, insofar as employment opportunites go. It's a completely different paradigm.

On the other hand, outsourcing that results in near-slave labor overseas may be the only income some people of other countries can receive. I don't know that's the case, but it's a possibility.

Not everyone has our standards of living. I live near the poverty level, maybe under, but I realize that I'm still better off than at least 85% of the world's population.

However, on a multiplicity of things, what she says is truly dangerous, to Americans and the rest of the world. Saving the environment--one of the most laudable goals there is--means nothing when the level of ignorance here is steadily increasing, among leaders and followers.

For all Hillary's faults--and there are many--I'd pick her over Palin, and many men, any day.

I'd like for everybody to get off their lazy butts and make a sustained, concerted effort to alternative energy sources. This is going to have to be addressed by every nation, sooner or later. Better sooner. Much sooner.

Especially when she's an advocate of destroying her own home's environment.

And somehow, aerial wolf hunts doesn't seem to be 'environmentally friendly' to me.

As for women. . .we've got a damn good selection of women who could do just as well or better than ANY man.

She was brought in by McCain as a political prop. There are highly intelligent women who'd suffice.

While working for my police department, we had at one time--simultaneously--our first female City Judge, Mayor and Police Chief. It was wonderful. They were all professionals. They knew what they were doing.

But we don't need a uneducated beauty queen--who fears witchcraft, and quit halfway through her tenture as Governor--that speaks as if she's still a contestant. She proves it with every word.


sue M (184)
Tuesday April 13, 2010, 12:51 am
I guess we should all be barefoot and pregnant huh? Why doesn't she do what she preaches (hahah! Sarah the priest) and get off the podidum and take care of those kids of hers!

Edward M (8)
Tuesday April 13, 2010, 2:34 am
I really believe that Americans, on the whole, do not want this constant supply of garbage, through uneducated and intentionally ill-judged comments made by Sarah Palin, being churned out over their Radio and TV channels.

Ben O (171)
Tuesday April 13, 2010, 2:46 am
"Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn"
(Benjamin Franklin)
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than a sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"
(Dr Martin Luther King, Jr)
"All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then success is sure"
(Mark Twain)

Does the world need Sarah Palin? My answer is: -NO, NO, NO!!!

Bob E (113)
Tuesday April 13, 2010, 3:16 am
Sarah Palin is about as smart as a dumb cow… If you “think” you know everything, then certainly you don’t…

Palin puts down Obama for his credentials as President… street organizer, mixed background, lived around the world, Columbia University, Harvard Law School, President of the Harvard Law Review, taught Constitutional Law, Illinois Senator and then US Senator….

Palin counters with this….4 colleges in 5 years: Hawaii Pacific College, North Idaho Community College
University of Idaho (won a scholarship from a beauty pageant so she transferred), Matnuska Sustina Community College and returned to the University of Idaho where she finally graduated, Wasilla City Council, Wasilla Mayor and 18 months as Governor of Alaska until she QUIT…

I do agree… Palin is qualified to run a beauty parlor where she can spread gossip...

. (0)
Tuesday April 13, 2010, 5:25 am
Aw, come on, Northern, you're not proposing that Palin is an environmentalist, are you? That she wants to bring the corporations here where they'll be under US environmental control? She's neither for the environment nor is she for government oversight. What have you been smoking?

A lot of people are opposed to drilling because they really are concerned about the environment and want the US and our energy corporations to develop environmentally friendly sources of energy, rather than depending on fossil fuels, which are going to run out one of these days and which negatively impact the world we want to leave our children and grandchildren.

Audrey L (37)
Tuesday April 13, 2010, 10:26 am
Sarah who can't remember any paper or book she might have read is now the scientist. When I see anything about her I get that bitchy all over feeling.

DC Bass (269)
Friday April 16, 2010, 2:21 pm
and *hmmmmm* just love her comments telling people not the use the word 'retarded.' Reportedly: "Sarah would call Trip - who was born with Down syndrome - "my little Down's baby." But I couldn't believe it when she would come over to us and sometimes say, playing around, "No, I don't wan the retarded baby - I want the other one," and pick up Tripp.

. (0)
Friday April 16, 2010, 2:31 pm
That article is a must read.

Randy L Benson (65)
Saturday April 17, 2010, 3:14 am
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