Wednesday October 21, 2009, 8:38 am
If I'm reading correctly this is an opinion piece. And he is entitled to his opinion! Do they not have free speech over there? Just wondering...

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 10:44 am
OK being that I'm a Swede - -
1, yes Sweden has free speech.
2, he is not a Democrat by US standards. He's a socialist & belongs to the Socialistic party. He's values can not in any ways be compared to the US political system. Do not apply any of the Democratic ideas to this man.
3, Sweden is known for being a Neutral country. His values are not representative of how Swedes in general think.

The Sweden I left many years ago would not have tolerated such comments from a politician.

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 12:34 pm
I think it would be wise to not even make a statement on Sweden's government or
their particular views/laws. Wouldn't it be refreshing if we just minded our own p's
and q's and let the rest of the world run their own affairs? In other words:
USA? BUTT OUT!!!

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 1:04 pm
Personally, I'm inclined to agree with him. I certainly feel the Muslims are a major threat to WOMEN. I know I wouldn't want to be under their influence and they are GROWING. Their men do not respect women and I for one would be scared to undertake their religion for that reason.
The fact the Swedes reported him only proves the strength of the Muslims in the world. They're the ones who should BUTT OUT.

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 1:14 pm
Terry: I think you are talking about a small minority of Muslims. Southern Europeans can also be a threat to women, the nuns who locked up the Magdalenes in Ireland because they were pregnant, raped, not a virgin any more, or just too pretty were a major threat to women. Every man who abuses his wife is a threat to women, and, believe me, a lot of them claim to be Christians.
One of my best friends was a Morrocon muslim, his grace and respect is something I very rarely witnessed in Christian men!
By the way, what do you mean by they are GROWING? So are my children!
The problem is the extremists, they are a minority. Extremists also exist in the christian belief and they are dangerous as well.

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 1:46 pm
Swedes have the right to freedom of speech, but it follows a more strict moral code. Whether or not his comment on Muslims was more offensive than true is anyone's decision.

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 7:38 pm
The extremists might "only be a minority" (world events tell a different story) but they kill christians as well as their own "helter skelter) on a daily basis. Show me the christians that perpetrate such atrocities (not counting the IRA - and don't tell me about the war-mongering countries, which are doing this for reasons of their own - but not for the sake of christianity) in this day and age. Read the signs muslims (in the thousands) carry during their demonstrations in the countries that gave them a home "Christians are the cancer, Islam is the answer" or "your 9/11 is coming" or "kill the infidels" or "behead all non-believers/enemies of islam" Shall I go on...???? Yes. they are a peaceful mob - Right...? Pardon my sarcasm...!!!

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 7:44 pm
Roos, the huge difference between Southern Eurpoeans and Muslims is that Eurpoeans CONDEMN bad treatment of women and stop it from happenning, while many Muslims supports it and very few protest it openly.

Much more Muslims were indicted for terrorism directed against countires of their residence, than Non-Muslims. Non-Muslims can be extremists too, but they attack less often, the plots are poorly organized and the perpetrators are sometimes just insane.

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 7:51 pm
Ps: this guy is saying what the majority of people are thinking - but are too afraid to voice because they would appear to be "politcally incorrect" etc. Most people who defend islam are hypocrits who either don't understand the peril they are in - or are to scared to tell the truth about how they REALLY feel...Hate-speech seems to be only considered racist when people are saying something unfavorable to islam - but is perfectly OK if it's the muslims that are doing it....Talk about double-standards....

Wednesday October 21, 2009, 9:00 pm
Certainly Muslim extremists, and there seem to be a LOT of them, are a threat pretty much worldwide. They have no respect for human life, not even the lives of fellow Muslims or their own families. Pointing out that such people are a threat is not "hate" speech. It is an opinion and he should be free to voice it.

Thursday October 22, 2009, 1:22 am
Sadly the demarcation between free speech and hatred is at the same time wavy, grey and thin. Propagaters of hate capitilse on this wherever they may be! Sweden like Switzerland is one of those countries that profitted from its neutrality by flogging war material to the participants in WW2 or converting assets stolen from Jews etc in the form of gold turned into bullion bars and stamped with the Nazi authentication. To cover such things as smelted gold fillings from the gas chambers of Aushwitz etc. Denigrating all Moslems as terrorists is but another one size fits all attempt at scaremongering people into joining another form of extremism, particular party or forum! In reality there are just as many unpleasent extremists waving" Christian" banners in the US for example! It is highly probable that in a community the size of the Islamic one they have the same proportions of extremists and the like as any other group! It is a fact of life that there will always be the noisy minority to amplify such factors anywhere in the world that their noise can be heard! The secret to dealing with these people is to filter their noise out and get on with the important business of living one's life to the best of one's ability and if you can help someone on the way so much the better! Clearly the double edged sword of free speech does not always cut both ways as it's movement is inhibited by the obsessive application of PCism by the very advocates of that free speech. Certainly the real threats in society are dewarfed by dispropotionate reporting of the more spectacular terrorist atrocities which for example when carried out in the name of God, freedom or some other rationale by the UK or US for example are OK and get minimal coverage as thousand sof innocent Iraqi's are killed in wars of dubious legality! Just my meandering thoughts on the very mad world we inhabit and as I've remarked elsewhere the Martians would find the whole shebang totally incomprehensible and they would not understand it either!!!!! lol

Thursday October 22, 2009, 1:24 am
We have free speech in Sweden; that's it.
The name "Sweden Democrats" (Sverigedemokraterna) is misleading.
"The National Party" would be more appropriate.
Jimmie Åkesson is NOT socialist, he is more of a racist.
And Sweden is NOT a socialist country even though we still have pretty good social welfare, and healthcare.
Anyway, the gap between rich and poor have never been wider, but that's another story...

Thursday October 22, 2009, 6:06 am
Chris B, take Canada for an example. One group of Muslims planned to behead PM Harper. Another group of Muslims wanted to blew up police headquarters several years later. Yes another group of Muslims makes riots on campuses.

No Crhistians, Jews, Sikhs or Buddists done anything like that. If you are concern about security, where YOU would look at? Normally people go fishing to the place with fish.

The good news is that these plots were discovered by moderate Muslims who reported on those guys. When we have enough moderate Muslims to make extremists forget about waging terror against the country that gave them asulym and decent lives, then we could take the question of Muslim terror off the agenda.

Thursday October 22, 2009, 8:09 am
Wild Cat I don't know where you have been hiding but if you don't think other religious groups are capable of the atrocities you mention have a look at the terrorist activities carried out against UK troops in the fledging years of the state of Israel when it was called Palestine or the part US sponsored terrorist activities in Northern Ireland by so called Catholics and the reprisal of so called protestant Christians. No wanted to or maybe or planned to as the UK lived with a daily diet of bombing, disruption of commercial and academic life As a college lecturer at the time of the "troubles there might be several bomb threats a month to the college I worked at and students would be cleared from the buildings as a precaution. Murder and mayhem that would make your "Moslem" terrorist look tame. Beheadings, kneecapping (Firing a shot or hitting the kneecap with a hammer as a punishment!) mutilations burning out (setting fire to someones house from the opposing side) mass murder by bombing, executions of military personal the most recent were only a few months ago by a splinter group in NI And of course we have had the Islamic Gihadists or similar AlKieda type groups doing underground train bombings and bus bombings in recent times likely fomented by US and UK aggression in the middle east. So before making statemnets I suggest you have a look at those areas closely before running away with the idea that only one religion has extreme factions within it! There are numerous other examples in many other countries should you wish to enlighten yourself of the facts before preaching on the subject. however I notice you are aware that not all people of any given religion are exremists so there is hope!

Thursday October 22, 2009, 2:26 pm
Chris, I never lived in UK, so I don't know the scale of the war there. I was talking about North America and things are different here.

I agree with you that members of different religions participate in different terror groups. Security people in UK were likely focused on different categories of people, rather than Muslims, and I see nothing wrong with that. Every place and time have different categories of people representing danger to the general population.

Here in North America Islamists are leading the terrorists flock, and at this time and in North America they have to be watched more carefully than others. When their moderate wing becomes stronger, or another group of population shows more terror activities - the focus must switch. No offense to anyone, just common sense.

Friday October 23, 2009, 11:05 am
Dear Chris B - "Sadly the demarcation between free speech and hatred is at the same time wavy, grey and thin. Propagaters of hate capitilse on this wherever they may be! Sweden like Switzerland is one of those countries that profitted from its neutrality by flogging war material to the participants in WW2 or converting assets stolen from Jews etc in the form of gold turned into bullion bars and stamped with the Nazi authentication."

This is probably the stupidest comment I've ever seen about Swedes. Sweden did in no way profit from WWII & the Jews. Instead Swedes helped Jews escape & they took them in once they made it to Sweden. If Sweden profited from the Nazis during WWII - - why did so many Jews make it to Sweden. I went to school with Jews who's family escaped from the Nazis - - stop spreading lies. Yes - the Nazis used Swedish railways during WWII - - but if the profit was that Sweden was not invaded & Swedes were not killed - - OK we profited.
Reality is - I have family who helped Jews in both Sweden & Denmark. My mother's aunt even watched the Nazis execute her husband for helping Jews. Oh yes - - that's so profiting from WWII.

Get real - the stolen stuff ended up in Switzerland - - not in Sweden. Stop making these two countries one - - they're far apart & very different from one & another.

Friday October 23, 2009, 3:24 pm
Lil Judd I apologise for inadvertantly tying the loot route to Switzerland via Sweden That was not my intention just my imprecise use of English what I was trying to do was tie the profiteering to Sweden and the theft of Jewish assets in the form of forged bullion bars to Switzerland. however that does not alter the fact that Sweden provided ball bearings and the machinery to make them to the Nazi war machine! Allowing them to rain bombs on my parents generation in the UK and elsewhere. The neutral countrys all bar Portugal all had the initial S which may have had some connection with Hitlers Runic obsession or even the strategic value of countries situated in the middle and ends of Europe who knows what went on in a monster's head? Of course other countries such as America provided the Nazis with IBM cataloging machinery before the US entered the war, which they used to administer the final solution. Sweden has some things in common with Switzerland such as fine engineering, spectacular scenary, cleanliness, snow and mountains well they did when I was last there! so I'm not sure why you would want to discriminate against present day Switzerland especially as they have owned up to their part in the theft of Jewish assets and I understnad made some reparation albeit rather late! From your description of your familly involvement in saving Jews and I can understand your passionate defence of Sweden. However I'm well aware of the famous Jewish saviours such as Raoul Wallenberg and there must be numerous unsung examples like your relations who suffered for others in many countries. I have often been called out for my lack of punctuation but it's a first to be called a liar so you have a unique connection which I hope you will revise having read this post as would not like to think of anyone getting the wrong impression because I'm falling asleep over the keyboard and spewing out rubbish. Sadly the neo Nazis that are appearing in Sweden the UK and elsewhere are spewing enough hate to resurrect Herr Hitler and this must be particularly painful for familiies such as yours that had close tragic encounters with the real Nazis!