Monday November 2, 2009, 5:25 am
This news surprises me, Call. My husband is a professor of physical chemistry and he has given lectures on this very topic to his students for several years.

Monday November 2, 2009, 6:03 am
Good information as usual Cal....thanks

Monday November 2, 2009, 6:13 am
There are several green house gasses we need to worry about - CO2 is just one of them... methane is another...Great article Cal - sheads light on a pice of the climate crisis that does not get as much attention as it should...

Monday November 2, 2009, 8:12 am
adn cows fed with corn produce more than grain fed beasts

Monday November 2, 2009, 11:19 am
Bait and switch...now that CO2 has been definitely found to have no effect on climate, they switch to methane.
"August 2009 issue of Geophysical Research Letters, MIT’s Richard Lindzen and Yang-Sang Choi cast doubt on the IPCC climate models by revealing that “climate sensitivity” to things like CO2 is far lower than previously thought, therefore that carbon dioxide likely has negligible effect on the climate."

Are we now supposed to go through the same song and dance with methane as we went through with CO2?

What a shell game.

Monday November 2, 2009, 4:18 pm
Question: is gas a fossil fuel?

Gas, methane, is produced - we used to 'produce' it right in our back yard - we had a swamp, and it would give off gas.

The critical question is oxidation/reduction - which is happening? We are oxidizing methane, we burn it. It is being produced naturally. (Even if people stopped burning all methnae gas, it would be still be produced naturally.)

Yes, I agree Anne - it's bad enough cattle give off gas, they also are fed corn.

We need to stop the madness of life out of control. Let's be honest - you female readers - are you turned on by a guy with a fancy car? When I was in high school ( I graduated in '72), the guys with cars got dates. So much for the Greenhouse Effect. Our actions are what are destroying us, not our words.

Are you impressed by a large home? Think of all the energy it takes to heat/cool.

We 'talk' about the environment. Then we drive away in our cars.

Consider this: Candidate Barack Hussein Obama consumed far greater amount of fossil fuel jetting around the country to get elected than candidate John McCain. Where do we draw the line?

While we debate, over a billion people are starving. Maybe the downturn is for the good - people are getting a reality check.

Maybe I should start looking into women and cars as a sex symbol. who knows - Judy Cross might be right sfter all based on how we act when we think no one is looking.

Monday November 2, 2009, 5:23 pm
"now that CO2 has been definitely found to have no effect on climate..."

LIER - same od repeated dogmatic statement ... you simply IGNORE the proof:

Empirical evidence that humans are causing global warming

http://www.skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-global-warming.htm

"Bait and switch..."

LIER again - methane has always been part of the climate change discussions..as hve other greenhouse gasses.

http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/aggi/

You are full of BS as usual Judy ... pure boloney!!!!

Monday November 2, 2009, 6:03 pm
"Bait and switch...now that CO2 has been definitely found to have no effect on climate, they switch to methane. Are we now supposed to go through the same song and dance with methane as we went through with CO2? What a shell game."

What a bunch of unfounded or even false assumptions. We are supposed to be discussing the science of climate change, not your delusions about it. Both CO2 AND methane are greenhouse gases and that has been known and discussed among scientists for many years. If you think that CO2 and methane do not have "greenhouse" properties, please do experiments to prove your case and submit your results to peer reviewed science journals. Thank you!

Monday November 2, 2009, 6:19 pm
It's important to reduce CO2 and methane emissions. Another reason to look at industrial-agricultural methods.

Tuesday November 3, 2009, 7:08 am
Thannxxx.. man is not in tune with the sensitivity of the environment.. one needs to be so aware and work with nature and not against it... we tend to lack wisdom and tned not to seek it either.. but to carry on with this destruction of the environment...

Tuesday November 3, 2009, 11:44 am
Right on Chaz Gaily.
Everything you said, every line of it, is true.

I have to laugh (or shudder maybe) when I hear how people don't want to pay for higher taxes to help the planet (locally, which collectively helps globally). I think most middle class people just think the world will get better on it's own, like magic, while they don't have to do anything REALLY, just continue to drive their SUV's and live the same way. Gotta pay baby. And you may have to pay through the nose when it comes down to it. Depends on how bad off the planet is and how valuable you think it is.