Monday November 2, 2009, 5:10 am
Expect but sad. How will Lake Victoria survives and produce needed drinking water for the African people. This is grim news, Cal, but necessary for us to learn, It confirms global warming.

Monday November 2, 2009, 6:09 am
It is global warming AND agricultural use of the nearby land by the African people that draws moisture away from the mountain. Expanding deserts up north are also due to both.

Monday November 2, 2009, 10:02 am
It was shown years ago that Kili has been loosing snow since the mid-19th Century

"There is a new August 31, 2006 paper on the climate of Mount Kilimanjaro[2] (Thanks to Timo Hämeranta and Koni Steffen for bringing this peer-reviewed contribution to my attention). The Geophysical Research Letters article is entitled “Kilimanjaro Glaciers: Recent areal extent from satellite data and new interpretation of observed 20th century retreat rates” (subscription required) and is authored by Nicolas J.Cullen, Thomas Mölg, Georg Kaser, Khalid Hussein, Konrad Steffen, and Douglas R. Hardy. The abstract of the paper reads,

“Recent and long term variations in ice extent on Kilimanjaro are investigated in the context of 20th century climate change in East Africa. Quickbird satellite data show that the areal extent of glaciers on Kilimanjaro is 2.51 km2 in February 2003. To assess glacier retreat on Kilimanjaro two glacier systems are identified: (1) plateau (≥5700 m) and (2) slope (

Monday November 2, 2009, 2:12 pm
Didnt you guys know judy knows everything about everything....LOL

Thanks cal even my people in africa are watching this...

Big gorilly Hugs

Monday November 2, 2009, 5:45 pm
Gorilly I am glad "your people in Africa" are watching this. If they really are they know that the Kilimanjaro glaciers have been retreating since the 1800's (well before there were enough anthropogenic gw gases around to be blamed for it), they continued to decline in pretty much a straight line from the mid 1940's until the early 1970's when global temperatures overall were declining, the temperatures in that latitude at those elevations have been decreasing since 1979 even though other latitudes have increased (according to NASA satellite measurements), and that the reduced snow is due not to temperature increases but reduced precipitation likely caused by deforestation in that area.
Judy you should know by now that actual evidence isn't important - only emotion.

Monday November 2, 2009, 5:56 pm
"It was shown years ago that Kili has been loosing snow since the mid-19th Century"

"the Kilimanjaro glaciers have been retreating since the 1800's"

And the temperatures have been rising too. The Little Ice Age ended around 1800-1850, so of course temperatures rose in the 19th Century. No one disputes that.

So, is this when you spit out the denialist line of "we are still just recovering from the Little Ice Age", or will that come later after you have bashed Al Gore for including pics of Kilimanjaro in his An Inconvienent Truth presentations?

Tuesday November 3, 2009, 6:17 am
I guess Mark and Judy need to update their "science" given that this is a NEW STUDY ... funny how they IGNORE the current literature to promote their dogma...

Tuesday November 3, 2009, 7:02 am
Thannxxx.. would be so sad to loooooose the icing on top of this lovely cake.. we would all loooooose...