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IN REMEMBRANCE: Bosnians Mark Srebrenica Anniversary


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Cal
- 682 days ago - ipsnews.net
Tens of thousands of Bosnia Muslims gathered on Monday to bury the remains of 613 people at Srebrenica to commemorate the 16th anniversary of the 1995 killings of thousands of Muslims in and around the town.



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patrica and edw jones (190)
Monday July 11, 2011, 11:46 pm
I was informed that this war was as a result of the Bosnian Muslims supporting Nazi Germany in WW2. More than 1 million Serbs died in that war and the killing of Bosnians in 1995 was to avenge this. Don't know how true this is.
 

Raluca Anghel (84)
Tuesday July 12, 2011, 12:40 am
truth is always in the middle...
 

Rosie Lopez (73)
Tuesday July 12, 2011, 10:44 am
thank you!
 

Ellen M. (226)
Tuesday July 12, 2011, 11:18 am
A sad anniversary either wat. Thanks
 

Aletta Kraan (132)
Tuesday July 12, 2011, 7:32 pm
Noted with sadness !
 

Zen Whisperingtree (244)
Tuesday July 12, 2011, 9:54 pm
Unbelievable how some here at Care2 will always come up with some reason to shift the blame for everything to Muslims. Are we supposed to think they brought this on themselves?

That makes me really angry.

Nothing could possibly justify the massacre of Srebrenica. Do you even know what happened there, p & e jones?

Thank you for posting this, Cal.
 

Parvez Zuberi (7)
Tuesday July 12, 2011, 10:29 pm
War is bad it brings hatred misery and very painful memories May GOD bless all those who died in this and all other senseless wars being fought presently such as IRAQ Afghanistan Libya
 

Mary P. (157)
Tuesday July 12, 2011, 10:44 pm
ZEN, I Agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I am sure pat & e jones,
Believe the MUSLIMS spread the LIES, about Weapons of mass destruction, in
Iraq, TOO, so the Millions of MUSLIMS, that DIED, deserved it, and were to BLAME, NOT
BUSH, off course.

Their Inner HATRED towards MUSLIMS, and habit of demonising
ISLAM, always reflects in their comments!!

Such hatred for fellow human beings, ONLY, because they follow
The Exquisite and Beautiful Religion of ISLAM!!! Sad, sad, sad !!!

A good, compassionate and decent human being, will LOVE ALL of MANKIND,
irrelevant of country, religion, race And culture. They should
At least, try and put into Practice, the Beautiful Teachings of JESUS (PBUH)
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Tuesday July 12, 2011, 10:46 pm
ZEN - WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU. COMMENT WAS MADE FROM NEWS PUT OUT YEARS AGO - DID YOU BOTHER TO READ AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WROTE????? WE STATED WE DID NOT KNOW HOW TRUE IT WAS - SO PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT. GET AS ANGRY AS YOU LIKE - MUDDLEHEADS OFTEN DO.
 

Zen Whisperingtree (244)
Tuesday July 12, 2011, 10:58 pm
Hmm - posting unsubstantiated, uncredited 'news' and trying to fence-sit by adding the rider 'don't know how true this is' is what I would define as muddleheaded.

And then the childish yelling - posting all in caps and swearing - you are clearly unable to converse in an intelligent fashion, so I won't respond here any more. I have better things to do with my time.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Tuesday July 12, 2011, 11:55 pm
SO WHAT IS YOUR CONTRIBUTIION ZEN AS REGARDS ANY KIND OF FACTUAL INFORMATION? WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SLAVIC HISTORY? DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE WAS TREMENDOUS PRESSURE ON THE SERBS TO CONVERT TO CATHOLICISM FOR CENTURIES? THIS ALL CAME TO A HEAD IN WW1. IN TURKISH OCCUPIED BOSNIA - THE TURKS TRIED CONTINUOUSLY TO CONVERT CHRISTIAN SERBS AND CROATS TO ISLAM. SERBS HAVE BEEN RELUCTANT TO ACCEPT THE BREAK UP OF YUGOSLAVIA... AND TITO'S REGIME PROCLAIMED THAT BOSNIAN MUSLIMS AND CROATS ARE JUST DIFFERENT KINDS OF SERBS. HOWEVER, THE FACT REMAINS THAT THE SLAVIC PERSONALITY - NO MATTER WHAT CREED OR RELIGION - IS VOLATILE AND PEACE IS ALWAYS A TENUOUS THREAD IN SUCH AREAS.
WE NEVER ALLUDED THAT THE MUSLIMS CAUSED THE WAR. WE JUST COMMENTED. HOWEVER YOU - ZEN- HAVE PROVIDED NOTHING THAT IS NOTEWORTHY ON CAL'S POST SO PUT UP - OR SHUT UP!!!
 

Linda R. (0)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 12:52 am
Patricia and edw jones's information is completely wrong. Croat's ustase and Serb's cetnici were who supported Nazi Germany in WW2, not Muslim. It is not true that more than 1 million Serbs died in that war, not even one thousand...

I am very sorry that many people are ignorant about the war in Bosnia as well as other wars in the word.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 1:00 am
Go Google the information Linda - before you make any further comments. It would be true to say that there are many versions of what happened in that war - so - has truth been the casualty?
 

Linda R. (0)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 1:06 am
Hi Patricia and edw jones.

Re: Go Google the information Linda - before you make any further comments. It would be true to say that there are many versions of what happened in that war - so - has truth been the casualty?

I think that is better for you to find some more reliable resources than trust some info from Google. Once again, your comment is completely wrong.
 

tara lav (31)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 2:55 am
Never again! Thanks Cal
 

Mary P. (157)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 3:11 am
Pat&Ed ,"MARY - YOU CHEEKY COW ". LOL !!! shuh, such anger too!!!

Pat &Ed,"SO GO GET SOME INTELLECT AND THEN MAYBE WE CAN COMMUNICATE",
No thank you, one cannot communicate with some one, who is
A mister know it all. Take care. Peace and serenity to you.
 

wooddragon xx (88)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 5:38 am
Cheers Cal...

Pat & Ed that is pure propaganda that was put out by the Serbian newspapers, radio and television stations. They began publishing and broadcasting propaganda against all the non-Serbs in the city.

I do someone charity work with http://www.hmd.org.uk/ The Holocaust Memorial Day Trust (HMDT) is a charity which works to raise awareness and to share the memory of the millions who have been murdered in the Holocaust and subsequent genocides in Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia and Darfur in order to challenge hatred and persecution in the UK today.

Here are some facts:
1992-1995 Bosnia
In 1980, the population of Bosnia consisted of Bosnian Serbs, Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims), and Bosnian Croats. In the turmoil following the disintegration of Yugoslavia, Bosnia declared independence (1992). This was resisted by the Bosnian Serb population who saw their future as part of ‘Greater Serbia’. Bosnia became the victim of the Bosnian Serbs’ determined wish for political domination which it was prepared to achieve by isolating ethnic groups and, if necessary, exterminating them. With the back drop of the ongoing civil war, in July 1995 Bosnian Serb troops and paramilitaries led by Ratko Mladic descended on Srebrenica and began shelling it. Despite being declared a safe zone by the United Nations, Bosnian Serb forces prevailed. Women and children were forced onto trucks and buses, men and boys remained. The deportation of Srebrenica’s population took 4 days. Concentration camps such as that in Omarska were established. Inhumane conditions, suffocation from overcrowding, systematic rape and starvation were regular dangers to prisoners.

At least 7,500 men, and boys over 13 years old, were killed in Srebrenica. Up to 3,000, many in the act of trying to escape, were shot or decapitated in the fields. Mladic sent out written orders to ‘block, crush and destroy the straggling parts of the Muslim group’ – it was carried out. 1,500 were locked in a warehouse and sprayed with machine gun fire and grenades. Others were murdered in their thousands on farms, football fields and school playgrounds. The whole action was carried out with military efficiency.

Bosina Fact-sheet:
In 1980, the populaon of Bosnia consisted of Serbs, Bosniaks (Sunni Muslim) and Croats. In the turmoil following the disintegration of Yugoslavia, Bosnia declared independence in 1992. This was resisted by the Bosnian Serb populaon who saw their future as part of ‘Greater Serbia’. Bosnia became the victim of the Serbs’ determined wish for polical domination, which it was prepared to achieve by isolang ethnic groups and, if necessary, exterminating them.

In July 1995 Serb troops and paramilitaries descended on Srebrenica. Women and children were forced onto trucks and buses, men and boys remained. The deportation of Srebrenica’s populaon took four days.

The first killing of unarmed Muslim men began on 13 July 1995 in warehouses. At least 8,000 were murdered. Others were trapped in warehouses, football fields, school playgrounds and farms and shot, in their thousands. Their bodies were buried in mass graves. Some have been recovered and reburied, but idenficaon has proved extremely difficult. In the Bosnian municipality of Prijedor, non-Serbs were forced to wear white armbands. Serbian newspapers, radio and television stations began to publish and broadcast propaganda against the non-Serbs in the city.

After the takeover of power by Serb forces, non-Serb women were taken to Trnopolje Camp where systematic rape took place on a regular basis and camp officers would beat prisoners indiscriminately. It is esmated that around 7,000 people passed through the camp. Around 3,500 people, mainly men, were held in inhumane condions in the Omarska Camp. The prisoners were given one meal per day and violence from the camp officers was widespread. Living condions were atrocious, with suffocaon caused by overcrowding being a constant threat to the prisoners. On HMD, we must honour the vicms and the survivors of the genocide in Bosnia by creang a culture which respects and celebrates the differences between us.

To find out more about the genocide in Bosnia visit: http://www.hmd.org.uk/genocides/bosnia
 

wooddragon xx (88)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 5:45 am
Also tomorrow is another day that should be remembered too:

Dates to Remember
14/07/1933: Sterilisation of Germans with disabilities

On 14 July 1933, just a few months after the Nazi Party’s rise to power a law was put into effect which allowed for the forced sterilisation of Germans with mental and physical disabilities.

The ‘Law for the Prevention of Offspring with Hereditary Diseases’ included conditions such as deafness, schizophrenia, epilepsy, ‘feeblemindedness’, blindness, severe hereditary physical deformity and severe alcoholism.

This was one of the Nazis first steps in attempting to protect the racial ‘integrity’ of the German nation.

Some deaf and disabled people were subject to forced sterilisation and abortion and many were murdered by medical professionals in the T4 Euthanasia programme which saw approximately 200,000 disabled children and adults killed in specially created gas chambers.

The Nazis targeted a range of people they regarded to be untermenschen (sub-human) and subjected them to a variety of measures including imprisonment, forced sterilisation and murder.

http://www.hmd.org.uk/genocides/dates-to-remember/sterilisation-of-germans-with-disabilities
 

wooddragon xx (88)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 5:49 am
17/07/1994: End of the Rwandan Genocide

On 14 July 1994, a week after they had taken Kigali – the capital of Rwanda, the Rwandan Patriotic Front (RPF) gained control of the Hutu-Power stronghold in Ruhengeri, the main town in North Rwanda – causing Rwandan Hutus to flee across the border into neighbouring Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of the Congo).

http://www.hmd.org.uk/genocides/dates-to-remember/end-of-the-rwandan-genocide

Sorry Cal for taking up so much space on your news, I just wanted people to be made aware.
 

wooddragon xx (88)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 5:59 am
Sorry guys, I have noticed several spellings mistakes - please forgive me and I hope you understand all what is being put out there.
 

TERRY R. (167)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 12:45 pm
THIS WAR WAS OBSCENE!
 

linda b. (191)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 1:16 pm
There are still so many Bosnian Muslims missing that are feared dead, another genocide was never supposed to hapen and yet it did in Bosnia and is going on in so many other countries around the world.To all of those that lost their lives to such evil may you rest in peace. Thank you Cal.
 

Ancil S. (171)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 7:49 pm
Sadly noted.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Wednesday July 13, 2011, 11:34 pm
Thanks WoodDragon - I am sure you have quoted from your researched sources just as I did. However I object to people - who contribute nothing to the post - calling us liars. No one can say 100% whether it be truth or conspiracy.
 

CareTwo Support (225)
Friday July 15, 2011, 1:11 pm
Hi Patricia and Ed. I just PM'd you our Code of Conduct, so please do review that and adjust your hostility accordingly. Thanks.
 

Riyaz R. (45)
Friday July 15, 2011, 10:44 pm

After killing 8000 Innocent Muslims boys and Mens.They still Blame Muslims.To the Knowledge of these Anti-Islamic morons.i want to state here that The Muslim Soliders how gave their lives during WWII, got reward from secular Europe in the Shape that their graves were desecrated in France.
when you say that Bosnian support Germany in WWII and that is why they deserve to be killed.then kill whole of germant,Italy and japan they too support and fought in line with Hitler,why are Muslims to be Blame
IN NUTSHELL,YOU NEED EXCUSES TO KILL MUSLIMS....
 

Riyaz R. (45)
Friday July 15, 2011, 10:49 pm
After killing 8000 Innocent Muslims boys and Mens.They still Blame Muslims.To the Knowledge of these Anti-Islamic morons.i want to state here that The Muslim Soliders how gave their lives during WWII FIGHTING against Nazis got reward from secular Europe in the Shape that their graves were desecrated in France.

when you say that Bosnian support Germany in WWII and if we for a moment we say that they support Hitler and that is why they deserve to be killed.then kill whole of germany, Italy and japan they too support and fought in line with Hitler,why are Muslims to be Blame,why only they are killed.They Massacre in Srebrenica was well planned and many European govt had support it........
IN NUTSHELL,YOU NEED EXCUSES TO KILL MUSLIMS.... and they there are no excuses you Cook it.................
 

Riyaz R. (45)
Friday July 15, 2011, 11:03 pm

To these Morons who blame Muslims from every thing
May be they (these 8000 Muslims boys and Mens) were carrying Weapons of mass destruction and/or were about to create Nuclear Weapons and that you got them killed in Pre-emptive strike else they would had protested against desecrated Holy Quran and Ban on Hijabs.
had they alive they had raised voice agiainst Isreal,who baby who ius innocent even if She killed 1300 mulims in gaza.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Monday July 18, 2011, 9:40 pm
HI CARE2 SUPPORT - I HOPE YOU ALSO NOTED THE VILE ANGER FROM MARY AND ZEN AND TOOK ISSUE WITH THEM FOR THE 'RACIST AND LIES' REMARKS. WHAT STARTED OFF AS JUST AN AMENABLE COMMENT WAS QUICKLY PUT TO THE SWORD BY THESE TWO AMIGOS.
 
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