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Leader Of Anti-Semitic Party In Hungary Discovers He's Jewish


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Cal
- 694 days ago - npr.org
There's a story out of Hungary that has received quite a bit of play from the religious press but hadn't quite risen to the mainstream until the AP ran a piece about it today.



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ellen m. (233)
Tuesday August 14, 2012, 11:37 pm
Oh, this is just to rich!
Looks like the Karma bus didn't even try to slow down before it hit this loser... thanks for the smile Cal :-)
 

H Nick H. (1826)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 12:36 am
Poetic justice. IF people only knew how we are all connected, this crap wouldn't happen.
 

Monica D. (580)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 2:20 am
Perhaps this realisation can be beneficial for all.
 

Xil L. (40)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 2:42 am
I know of a nazi who rented part of his house to a norvegian family which had an adopted boy who turend out to be jewish. Crazy world.
 

Stan B. (122)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 3:48 am
Great comment Ellen. It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
 

John S. (297)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 4:27 am
Noted, ironic isn't it.
 

(4)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 5:12 am
This fact became known at the end of June, I even submitted a story.The man is unscrupulous, he must have known about his origins since his grandmother spent some time in a concentration camp.Now I expect he will try to make a career out of his Jewishness, such people have no shame.
 

Jennifer C. (172)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 6:10 am
Thanks.
 

Kit B. (277)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 9:43 am

I'm just wondering how a person can apologize for years of being a part of movement of hate. He spoke to a Rabbi, did he expect dispensation from the Rabbi? There is no magic wand in Judaism, no one can wipe away years of a life dedicated to the hate of a people. The best thing for this guy is to work on many and assorted charities and hope he can actually do one positive thing with what is left of his time on earth.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (457)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 10:06 am
If he chooses, this man has a lot to make up for. I don't think he can apologize Kit. I think he has to decide to make up his mind on what he wants to/should do to make amends for the hate, and hurt he put out.
 

Gloria picchetti (287)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 10:16 am
Kharma!
 

Karin B. (31)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 12:27 pm
Delicious!
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 12:28 pm
thanks universe
 

Lynne Buckley (0)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 12:34 pm
Good.
 

Christopher Fowler (84)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 12:54 pm
Isn't there a song about things like this?

Isn't it ironic....don't ya think?
 

Scarlett P. (126)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 1:02 pm
Paul was a killer of Jews yet Jesus chose him to be a disciple... If Csanad Szegedi has accepted Christ and what His sacrifice has done for us, then he is already forgiven. Doing works can never make him righteous. Only grace
 

Kenneth L. (321)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 1:09 pm
Ha ha ha ha ha! Shows that it doesn't matter what religion you are, and that anyone can hate regardless of their religion.
 

Sally S. (105)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 1:11 pm
I do so love it when the universe turns around and bites a guy like this. Thanks Cal for sharing this.
 

Mary and Joe M. (29)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 1:19 pm
It does not pay to be so intolerant of others, seems he is probably kicking himself now for all the harmful and hurtful things he has said or done in his life because of his hatred of "certain" people. It should not matter who you are as long as you are a nice person - whether you are white, black, any nationality or religion. We should take each individual as a person and not classify them into groups to hate or adore. It was also at some point, that people believed that Adolf Hitler had some Jewish heritage on either his father or mother's side - I forget which. Such hatred only ruins your life in mental anguish and perhaps resulting in physical ill health because of your festering on things we can not control - like the difference races and nationalities. Enjoy each day - that is why it is called the present (a gift to enjoy).
 

Scarlett P. (126)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 1:57 pm
Those who hate maybe "religious" but they are not christians... Christ never hated, he only loved and showed the love of the Father to the very end... His love for mankind was so great that He chose to die so that we may live eternally with He and the Father...
 

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (78)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 2:14 pm
Pretty amazing. It seems strange how this formerly neo-fascist anti-semitic hoodlum can suddenly embrace his Jewish heritage & hope to erase his very recent past with a simple apology. We need more lines to read between to try to figure out what is in his head & heart. (Does a militant paramilitary fascist even have the latter?)

I went on to real the Wall St Journal article linked to at the end of the NPR piece & discovered:

"Mr. Szegedi said his grandparents, who both survived Nazi terror in World War II, had chosen to remain silent about their Jewish heritage and he had only found out about his family’s religious background in December 2011.
.../...
Speaking at a press conference late July, Jobbik’s leader, Gabor Vona, said Mr. Szegedi’s resignation had nothing to do with his roots and the party only looks at “what its members do for Hungary.” Jobbik leadership had called on Mr. Szegedi to resign amid corruption allegations.

Many onlookers, backed by an internal memo, doubt the party’s official line.

“Had he not lied about his origins, then — whether this is a nice thing or not, that is a different question — he would never have become an MEP,” Mr. Novak, the Jobbik vice president, wrote in an internal letter cited by Hungarian daily Nepszabadsag."


The Wall St Journal is very careful NOT to label the Jobbik Party anti-Semitic, delicately saying "Some of the Jobbik party’s messages have been considered anti-Semitic," but do provide one example of the, shall I say, attitudes of ONE of the 45 Jobbik members who have seats in Hungary's 386-seat parliament:
"Jobbik MP (Congressman) Zsolt Barath caused outrage in Hungary when in an April speech in parliament he commemorated the 130th anniversary of the Tiszaeszlar blood libel*, seen as one of the first anti-Semitic events in modern-era Hungary." But the WSJ doesn't tell us what 'the Tiszaeszlar blood libel' is or was!

(*the Tiszaeszlar blood libel: "An accusation of Jewish ritual murder in the Hungarian village of Tiszaeszlár led to the arrest, imprisonment, interrogation, and eventual trial of 13 Jewish defendants, April 1882–August 1883. The Tiszaeszlár affair began with the disappearance of a 14-year-old Christian girl named Eszter Solymosi on 1 April 1882. .../... Barely two weeks later (end of May 1882), a significant portion of the male Jewish population of the village was placed under arrest on the charge of Eszter Solymosi’s murder..../..."

"Tiszaeszlár is generally regarded as the first formal prosecution in Europe against Jews for the “ritual murder” of a Christian to take place outside of Poland or the Russian Empire after the late sixteenth century. The case was widely covered in the European press, where it was treated with incredulity, studied neutrality, or alarm at the danger posed by Jews (or at least some Jews), depending on the politics of the journal or author in question. ..../..."

"The Tiszaeszlár blood libel played a conspicuous role in the proceedings of the first International Congress of Antisemites, which convened in Dresden in the summer of 1882. Shortly after the conclusion of the trial in 1883, Istóczy and his followers established Hungary’s first National Antisemitic Party. Tiszaeszlár also provided the occasion for the venting of popular animosities. Even before the conclusion of the trial, anti-Jewish demonstrations had broken out across parts of Hungary..../..."


Since NPR & the Wall St Journal are interested in the human interest side of the story, they do not bother to tell the reader that this hate-promoting, 'pure-Hungarian' supremacist party, backed up by its paramilitary wing (in 'pure' fascist black shirt tradition), that is "Jobbik is Hungary’s third largest parliamentary party. In 2010, they received more than 855 thousand electoral votes, which in that year amounted to 16.67% of the votes cast, and translated into 12.18% of the seats in the nation’s parliament. The party celebrated a considerable electoral victory however after paramilitaries loosely associated with Jobbik had descended on the small town of Gyöngyöspata to stoke the flames of ethnic tension between Romas and the rest of the population. After a special mayoral election held just two months after these events, Jobbik’s candidate is now mayor of this town with a comfortable margin of victory: the two far-right candidates running in the special mayoral election received over 44% of the votes..."

In the same piece, my favorite Hungarian blogger -who calls himself 'the Contrarian Hungarian"- gives you a bit of a taste of what the climate is like in Prime Minister Viktor Orbán's Hungary: "Jobbik sympathizer Zsolt Tyirityán delivered a speech about shooting Jews and persons of color in an apocalyptic showdown between the pure-bred forces of his Betyársereg and criminal gypsies backed by Israeli tanks; ... Jobbik-allied neo-Nazi leader László Toroczkai spoke of shooting the previous socialist prime minister of Hungary Utoya-island style (“we would have done a favor to Hungarians had we shot him while he was still in youth camp”)"

(http://thecontrarianhungarian.wordpress.com/2011/08/26/vona-gabor-in-romania-a-life-and-death-struggle-to-come-to-the-carpathian-basin/#more-895)
 

Kate Kenner (202)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 2:16 pm
Well, isn't that just a kick in the tuchas! I laughed when I saw this as it is like some kind of sweet revenge.
The law about the mother being jewish thus the child came about because if a woman was raped and gave birth the child would then be Jewish.
 

Fred Krohn (34)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 3:24 pm
Wasn't there one of these about a century ago in Austria? Little lunatic named Schickelgruber? Seems he turned megalomaniac and tried twice to take over the world... Watch this scumbag! Antisemitism is a terminal national illness! Its infectees should be isolated and prevented from spreading the vile infection!
 

Vicky P. (461)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 3:37 pm
*slaps forehead* lol, so what now for him? He's gonna hate himself?
 

Charlie Rush (42)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 4:01 pm
What a shame, Mr.Szededi spent so many years hating.......for what? For NOTHING!
 

Mary Donnelly (46)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 5:41 pm
Thanks Cal--that might have been a bit embarrassing for more than just the leader.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 6:04 pm
Hahaha! So that's why grandmother had a twelve branched candlestick on the mantle. Is it too late to get circumcised?
 

Hector Rodriguez (4)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 6:16 pm
Moral: Don't spit up in the air, because it might just hit you in the face.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Wednesday August 15, 2012, 7:20 pm
This wonderful story is on a par with the Biblical story of the changes wrought by God when Saul on the way to Damascus.......blinded so that 'He might see'..............it's a Miracle!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Cal.
 

Roger M. (0)
Thursday August 16, 2012, 12:31 am
Yeah, heard about this a few weeks back.

It's great isn't it? Someone make the movie.
 

Rin S. (10)
Thursday August 16, 2012, 12:34 am
I hope that bastard suffocates in his sleep.
 

Sam E M. (0)
Thursday August 16, 2012, 1:46 am
I find it hard to believe that he didn't know his own mother and maternal grandparents were Jewish.
Anyway, finding out doesn't automatically make him a Jew in his head and heart.
At 30 years old, and after years of anti-semitism, you're not telling me he suddenly 'saw the light' because he 'discovered' his own Jewishness.
If he has indeed completely changed his opinion through seeing things from a different perspecive, in effect that of the Jews he'd so far hated, then I applaud it. Pity it doesn't happen more often.
 

Devon Leonard (54)
Thursday August 16, 2012, 1:59 am
Wow what an amazing story...truth is stranger than fiction for sure. And what karma or whatever you want to call it that this runs full circle like this..... And here his grandmother is still alive, who lived through a concentration camp and still never said a word about this to her grandson!! And so he has undergone some sort of "aha" experience and is opening himself to perceive life in a fresh new way... Its a bad boy makes good story.... And if so, that's good.
 

Mike and Janis B. (6)
Thursday August 16, 2012, 2:44 am
What's his middle name, Hitler, who was likewise Jewish.
 

Giana Peranio-Paz (377)
Thursday August 16, 2012, 4:31 am
What goes around comes around. It's very ironic and now he is being discriminated against because he is actually Jewish. It just shows how stupid racism and bigotry are.
 

s M. (0)
Thursday August 16, 2012, 4:52 am
His grandparents probably kept their Jewishness quiet of the time to protect their children. This shows a problem yet to be confronted by Eastern Europe, particularly Poland - yes there were Jews; yes they did have land and other property stolen from them, often by Arian neighbours; yes little was done to protect them by any local government; ..... If you continue to avert your gaze it will get worse the sense of injustice by the generations since.
 

Sarah G. (111)
Thursday August 16, 2012, 5:22 am
if you can't beat 'em, join 'em
 

Marianna Molnar Woods (9)
Friday August 17, 2012, 12:51 pm
this is a jokeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 

Klaus Peters (9)
Sunday August 19, 2012, 4:50 am
How embarassing, what a looser.
 
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