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Focus of Anti-US Protests in the Middle East Evolves

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Analysis: While anti-Islam film was a trigger, longstanding grievances against US influence and deep, unaddressed socioeconomic problems appear to be fueling the unrest.

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Azaima A (207)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 8:39 am
any chance they're right?

Diane B (275)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 9:42 am
noted thanks Cal

Aletta Kraan (146)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 12:06 pm
Noted !

Stephen Brian (23)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 12:41 pm
Hi Abbe :)

In the ways most commonly publicized, no, they're totally wrong. The U.S. got rid of an expansionist warmonger so ruthless that he used chemical WMDs on rebels within his own country and replaced him with a far less dangerous leader. As for the U.S. supporting Israeli control of the West Bank and Gaza Strip, it's almost funny that they complain about it in the country of Black September during protests against a government that was elected following apparently anti-Palestinian biased gerrymandering (though that may be a matter of political necessity).

In another way, they may actually be right. The U.S. recognizes Islam as a religion, but only in the sense of "religion" as it applies to Christianity. Islam (like Judaism) developed under conditions of Islamic theocracy., where religious laws slipped into those of the land and vice-versa and (unlike Judaism) has remained under such conditions, to some degree, since its creation. Their concept of Islam is not necessarily just as a religion like Christianity, but a whole religiously mandated legal code and structure of society. In its refusal to allow Sharia to override its own laws due to its divine authority nor even generally act as an alternative, the U.S. really does not recognize Islam as the Salafist protesters see it.

There is no grievance which once addressed would allow everyone to live in harmony. This is not a misunderstanding. They are simply enemies.

Past Member (0)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 2:49 pm
"Islam (like Judaism) developed under conditions of Islamic theocracy., where religious laws slipped into those of the land and vice-versa and (unlike Judaism) has remained under such conditions, to some degree, since its creation."

Holy run on sentence. Suffering from shiny object syndrome?

Stan B (123)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 6:10 pm
We also have these lunatics running rampant here in Australia and many people are beginning to question why they were allowed in, in the first place.
Films criticising Islam aren't the problem. Islam is.
And yes Stephen. They are simply enemies.

John B (185)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 6:47 pm
Thanks Cal for the link to the Global Post article by Erin Cunningham. It only took one spark to set off the repressed anger, rightly or wrongly, these people have toward the West, . Read and noted.

Penelope P (222)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 10:14 pm
Unfortunately the Arab spring was probably a US publicity manoevre in the face of food shortage riots Interesting to know

Alexander Werner (53)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 7:06 am
"Focus of Anti-US Protests in the Middle East Evolves". May be it's time already to stop feeding the wolves trying to domesticate them?

Money from US Aid very well could be spend at home too.

Past Member (0)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 12:48 pm
They're pissed at US interference with their Arab Spring throughout the Middle East.

Lin Penrose (92)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 2:41 pm
Tried to note Cal.Thanks for the post. I would not use 'wolves' as an example as Bob A. does (Green Star). Wolves are clean, honest predators with understandable social structures. Humans, and our various ideals are not. I do agree that the U.S.A. and other contries have been feeding the Mid-East (and others) to create some chaos, along with some domestication, to hopefully lick the (the ptb's)hands those of who feed them with weapons of some words, pictures, and those that can kill more directly. Occasionaly, actual food enters into the "friendship" scene. Watch out for the backfires and those plans of "mice and men".

David Menard (43)
Sunday September 16, 2012, 2:57 pm
10 + yrs of war time for us to get out of Afghanistan, Iraq and the rest of the middle east end all aid to the middle east. Enough is enough no more playing world police. Bring our troops home. most of the middle east is pretty much a Iran style theocracy now anyway and that seems to be what they want. Even the gaseous diffusion process couldn't separate radicals theocrats and other extremists from their governments.

patrica and edw jones (190)
Monday September 17, 2012, 1:56 am
We reap the whirlwind when we interfere in the politics of other countries. Saddam, Gaddafi, Mubarak were indeed cruel despots - now we have Assad in Syria. We must stay out of Syria's conflict - since there is nothing to show we have done any good thing in the other places. They are still tearing at each other's throats..... SO LET THEM GET ON WITH IT......and we should be looking at our own problems. As Stan said - we now have rabid lunatics running riot here in Australia - practically unheard of before. Thanks Cal.

Silvija Vlahovec (12)
Monday September 17, 2012, 2:10 am
America deary - you caused the Arab Spring, now enjoy the Arab Autumn. Thank you so much for making the world a more unstable place.

Soren G (2299)
Monday September 17, 2012, 2:22 am
As much as we think insulting other peoples religion, is stupid and serve no purpose, we also think idiots who intentionally try to provoke is best punished by being totally ignored.

We therefore urge muslim people of the world to trust that most people in he West have no intention to disrespect your beliefs, and that the few idiots who like other annoying personalities feed on trying to stir up a fight and get attention through provoking trouble, is best dealt with by being ignored

Making riots and killing innocent people is no way to demand respect - treat other the way you want to be treated instead.

We will at all time defend your right to worship in our country, and disagree with people who intentionally insult your beliefs - go do the same when Christians, Hindus, Bahai, Jews, Buddhists and so on face disrespect in islamic countries, and you will earn lots of respect.

We appreciate it, when muslims find, that groups like Boko Haram and Al Qaeda is way bigger insults to Islam, than some foolish cartoons and a stupid movie. Where is the massive demonstrations against those who in the name of Allah and the Prophet, bomb churches and kill innocent people attending service ? - Why the silence when other religions in muslim countries is disrespected in ways far more devastating, than having their feelings hurt !!

gabriela v (172)
Monday September 17, 2012, 2:51 am
Thank you

Past Member (0)
Monday September 17, 2012, 3:25 am

Linda W (32)
Monday September 17, 2012, 7:25 am
Thank you.

. (0)
Monday September 17, 2012, 7:38 am
Noted ty Cal

Lloyd H (46)
Monday September 17, 2012, 7:51 am
First, most of these so called 'massive protests' were not only not massive but do not reflect the majority view of nations/cities where they occur, any more than the corporate funded and organized Anti-Health Care demonstrations of the Tea Bagged. the majority of Muslims are no more intolerant, ignorant or violent that the majority of Christians.
To be blunt, the ass-hat intolerance, hate and fear mongering with more than a tinge of violence that spewed forth from the "Voters Values Summit". VVS was sponsored by FRC, AFA, American Values, the Heritage Foundation, Liberty University, and Liberty Counsel with noted Islamophobic, Misogynist, Homophobe, war mongering intolerant zealot Christian Taliban of America speakers as Bachmann, Beck, Boykin, Brewer, Cameron, Cantor, Cuccinelli, DeMint, Dunlop, Gaffney, Huckabee, Ingrahm, Jackson, King, Lively, McDonnell, Oliver North, Paul, Perkins, Romney, Ryan, Saleem. You know representatives of the average every day American who believes in Literal Creationism, Personhood for fertilized human eggs, forcing women to give birth to children of rape and incest or die trying, Gays in concentration camps, promoting the 'Kill the Gays Bill' in Uganda, forced vaginal probe ultra-sounds, voter suppression, taxing the Poor and Middle class to feed the Rich, institute Christian Sharia as the basis of US Law and the US Constitution, you know all the things most Americans have at the top of their list of things to do every morning when they wake up.

louise Woychesko (1)
Monday September 17, 2012, 10:50 am

Gene J (290)
Monday September 17, 2012, 2:12 pm
It is true that the protester's themselves are minorities even within their own lands. It is also true that we have manipulated events, giving support here, withholding it their in ways that must certainly seem capricious to the people of those regions. That we play politics with the lives of citizens of other countries has been a long standing American foreign policy. Perhaps some of that is coming home to bite us in the butt. Perhaps the ONLY foreign aid we ought EVER give is humanitarian, food, clothing, shelter, medicine and leave the rest to the people of the world to resolve. Offer peaceful tools, not weapons of war. Let other people carve out their own destinies as we have ourselves done. Perhaps our geopolitical outlook is shortsighted. Those countries where the unrest is strongest have no real infrastructure, no jobs, no manufacturing and no one leading them into the future. They have lived under dictator's who sell oil. Well what happens when the oil is gone and the money well dries up? They will need to have built an economic engine to drive and sustain their countries and their people or they will all themselves be on the dole. But on whose dime? Who will help these lands when they can no longer help themselves? Perhaps that should be our foreign policy, Not fomenting wars and revolutions, but offering humanitarian and educational aid only. If they accept it, fine, but let them have that choice, as we would ourselves insist on having it. If they can live under Sharia law and make a life for their people, let them, unless they are doing so by selling drugs as the Taliban does. We are capable of deciding our own destiny, why need we decide it for anyone else capable of doing the same? I'm not advocating withdrawal from the world, but engaging it in a new way, with no strings attached and most of all NO weapons. Let them throw rocks, not rpg's. They'll come to their collective senses and build their own nations, as we built ours, or go the way of all societies on this world in recorded history that gained their empires by violence, into the dust bin of history. We can't be the police force of the world, but perhaps we can help feed it. We have enough to do that. Why not try a new method of winning peoples hearts and minds? Love. Without strings. Could it be worse than what we have wrought now?
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