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The Flu Vaccine Controversy


Health & Wellness  (tags: health, healthcare, flu vaccine, drug companies, Big Pharma, warning, risks, medicine, prevention, treatment, society, humans, disease, government )

Cal
- 864 days ago - slate.com
Are drug companies really more dangerous than the flu virus?



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MmAWAY M. (475)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 3:21 am
Thank you Cal, frankly I have never had the flu shot, my friends that always got it when they were older got sick...
 

MmAWAY M. (475)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 3:25 am
BTW....OF COURSE DRUG COMPANIES ARE MORE DANGEROUS...sorry, my first comment I didn't get to the news at site, tried to get it and my little circle in this laptop is going round and round isn't there a song for that???. So Guys, I really don't know what the Poop I am talking about. DRUG COMPANIES JEEPERS
 

pam w. (139)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 10:42 am
Working with the public, I always get a flu shot. Just because the vaccine fights ONE variety of flu doesn't mean you can't get another one.

Painting all drug companies as incompetent or worse totally ignores the benefits of childhood vaccinations. antibiotics, etc.

 

Robert O. (12)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 1:04 pm
Thanks Cal.
 

Susanne R. (249)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 10:16 pm
A vaccine eradicated a very deadly disease called "smallpox."

According to Wikipedia:

"Smallpox is believed to have emerged in human populations about 10,000 BC.[2] The earliest physical evidence of it is probably the pustular rash on the mummified body of Pharaoh Ramses V of Egypt.[7] The disease killed an estimated 400,000 Europeans annually during the closing years of the 18th century (including five reigning monarchs),[8] and was responsible for a third of all blindness.[4][9] Of all those infected, 20–60%—and over 80% of infected children—died from the disease.[10] Smallpox was responsible for an estimated 300–500 million deaths during the 20th century.[11][12][13] As recently as 1967, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimated that 15 million people contracted the disease and that two million died in that year.[3]

After vaccination campaigns throughout the 19th and 20th centuries, the WHO certified the eradication of smallpox in 1979.[3] Smallpox is one of two infectious diseases to have been eradicated, the other being rinderpest, which was declared eradicated in 2011."
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Coincidentally enough, I got my flu shot just yesterday. My doctor doesn't offer such vaccinations any more, so I got it at a local pharmacy. I haven't had the flu since I started getting yearly vaccinations. The last time I had it, I developed secondary bacterial infections that included bronchitis, pleurisy and pneumonia. Needless to say, I was very sick. I won't take that chance again.
 

NICKY MELVILLE (119)
Thursday December 20, 2012, 10:52 pm
I ALWAYS used to get the 'flu before I started to get the 'flu vax YEARS ago and I have NEVER had it since! It is SUCH a relief, as I used to get SO ill and even got pneumonia. I am an 'older' person and I never feel any side-effects from the vaccine whatsoever. As a retired nurse, I have seen many people die of the 'flu, but no-one die from the vaccine. Also, the only children that present in the hospital with life-threatening viruses such as measles and whooping coughs are the ones whose parent chose NOT to vaccinate.. You will not find my older people or people who work in the medical profession taking much notice of the new fear of vaccines for childen particularly as so much of the imformation given is totally mythical and the reality is that the vaccines save lives and without them the old killer viruses will come back and THEY you will see what damage is done when you DON'T vaccinate! With world travel, especially air flight making it so easy to travel from country to country, it is so easy for the old viruses to spread all over the world very quickl, and people who are too scared to vaccinate their children and themselves will come down with viruses in their milliions! Many Care 2 ers are too young to have seen the horror that was, before vaccinations!
 

Suzanne L. (132)
Friday December 21, 2012, 9:08 am
In general vaccinations of many kinds have been a positive way of preventing both human and animal suffering from many diseases. Polio has nearly been eradicated because of vaccination programs. It remains active in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Nigeria. Recently, Afghani tinfoil-hatters have killed healthcare workers (mostly women) who had been going door-to-door offering free polio vaccine.
 

Debra B. (24)
Friday December 21, 2012, 9:16 am
I never get the flu shot! I dont trust this government at all! Who really knows whats in those shots?
 

Aaron Bouchard (152)
Friday December 21, 2012, 1:17 pm
Noted thanks
 

Patricia H. (454)
Friday December 21, 2012, 2:28 pm
noted
 

William Wayne (0)
Friday December 21, 2012, 2:37 pm
I have been vaccinated for smallpox at least 5 times; it never "took". I believe that I contracted cowpox when I was 3 or 4 years old. I am now 90 and grew up when childhood diseases were common and before vaccinations for them existed. For the past decase I have been getting the flu vaccine in October or November, and I am sure it has been effective.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday December 21, 2012, 3:15 pm
What a crock! I have to wonder how much of an investment in big pharma, the author has.
1."... flu hospitalization rates rose steadily between 1979 and 2001, despite an increase in vaccination rates among seniors from 32 percent in 1989 to 67 percent in 1997."
But, what the hell, we'll just ignore the science and call it an ongoing learning curve!
2."...and it certainly does not give people the flu."
Actually, it does. The flu shot is supposed to give you a "milder" version of the flu, so your immune system can build on it.
3. No mention of the mercury still contained in many flu shots.
4. "Vaccine makers have to guess what strains of the flu will predominate, so the vaccine may prevent anywhere from 0 to 50 percent of the flu in a bad-guess year and 70 to 90 percent in a good-guess year."
The "bad years" far outnumber the "good years". In the spring, scientists "guess" which of more than a dozen flu strains will emerge in the fall. They usually guess wrong.
Never had the flu shot, never had the flu. My elderly mother and her friends get the flu shot every year, and almost every year, they get the flu.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday December 21, 2012, 5:15 pm
I have not had a flu shot since 2000. If I am worried I always turn to Homeopathy.
 

Michael M. (5)
Friday December 21, 2012, 5:38 pm
You know what, I am tired of these ignorant and stupid people. I do not want you spreading your germs because of your paranoid and delusional ideals.
 

Eugene C. (3)
Friday December 21, 2012, 7:47 pm
Well, l have never had the flu shot but some members of my family do each year and all of these members of my family have contracted the flu a few days after receiving the shot. Their response to contracting the flu after having the vaccine is that they would have had it much worse if they hadn't had the vaccine? l don't get the flu but like Cris above, l always turn to either herbs or homeopathy if l become unwell in any way.
l am very concerned about the amount of vaccines we are giving our tiny babies and young children, and what appears to be an exponential growth in the amount of children with Autism and the possible link to immunisation. I don't think we can afford to be complacent about the effects vaccines could be having on our immune systems, l believe that healthy food, good water, good sleep patterns and less stress is far more beneficial than any synthetic vaccine pumped into our veins..
 

Michael O. (177)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 1:13 pm
Vaccines are one of the greatest weapons that modern medicine has in its arsenal (sorry for the military imagery :-)). One of our biggest killers, smallpox, was eradicated thanks to vaccines. Another debilitating disease, polio, is now virually unknown outside of the Third World, also thanks to massive vaccination programs. And think of all the other miscellaneous childhood diseases that killed and maimed unnecessarily: measles, mumps, and rubella, just to name a few. Vaccination has reduced children's mortality rates significantly.
 

Antonia Windham (6)
Saturday December 22, 2012, 2:18 pm
The flu vaccine's useful - it isn't by any means as useful as, say, the rather magnificent rabies vaccine or some others, but it's useful.
 

Theodore Shayne (56)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 12:56 pm
I have no intention of getting a flu shot. I eat very healthy and I'm active. I take 10,000 IUs of vitamin D3 along with 200mcg+ of Vitamin K2 which acts as a facilitator for the D3. Yes, the virus will makes itself known but it doesn't slow me down at all. I can't remember the last time I took a sick day. I increase the VD3 about 2,000 IUs with lemon juice and ginger plus raw honey. Does the trick every time.
 

David F. (38)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 1:42 pm
I haven't had the flu vaccine for more than 10 years and haven't got the flu either. I try to keep my precious body pure so why add all those terrible things? I drink a teaspoon of turmeric with some cumin powder every morning and my breakfast is a kale green smoothie, pomegranate juice, grape juice, ginger, and pears and bananas. Keep up your immune fighting supplements and if you get the flu accept your destiny.
 

Antonia Windham (6)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 2:23 pm
I've a belief, David F.,that medical science's about NOT accepting your 'destiny' re illness.
 

june t. (66)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 2:24 pm
Though I've never had a flu shot, I'm glad it is there for the people that want it.
 

Billie C. (2)
Sunday December 23, 2012, 10:18 pm
i have a chronic health condition and the flu could kill me. i'll take the shot. vaccines do way more good than they do harm. there are terrible diseases that are now gone thanks to vaccines, small pox being one.
why anybody would deny their child vaccines and allow them to get things like whopping cough is totally beyond me. i would do anything to make sure my kids were healthy.
 

Lindsay Kemp (1)
Monday December 24, 2012, 3:59 am
I now have a flu vaccine each year, and I haven't had flu since. Plus, the colds I get don't seem to be so sever either. Maybe that's coincidence, but I have heard other people say the same.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday December 24, 2012, 4:21 am
I have a flu shot yearly.
 

Angelica C. (84)
Monday December 24, 2012, 6:32 am
Approximately six years ago when we had the last Asian Flu outbreak that killed many in Asia, the World Health Organization was responsible for releasing the live virus in the vaccine - and they did it on purpose. In 2006, they had a letter of apology on their web site. Try and find it anywhere today - you can't. They claimed that they were oh - so - sorry and that they only released live virus on purpose to see how the actual vaccine combatted the virus ( that no one would have gotten if it were not for their underhanded efforts). I also remember that year that there was a critical shortage of flu vaccine all over the world. Many died.

But I guess it was a great year for pharmaceutical companies that made flu vaccine.
 

Ro H. (0)
Monday December 24, 2012, 10:13 am
maybe
 

Syd H. (0)
Monday December 24, 2012, 12:26 pm
Some years ago when I was 19 years old, the company I then worked for, heard there was going to be a Flu epidemic and arranged for the entire staff of about 200 people to have the flu vaccination. With just two exceptions, (myself and another guy in the same department) everyone including the three brothers who owned the company, had the vaccination.
My self and my colleague, were the ONLY ONES in the company, to NOT be off work with the FLU that winter. I am now 62 and so far have never had the flu vaccine and also never had the FLU..
 

Sergio Padilla (61)
Monday December 24, 2012, 5:01 pm
Thanks
 

Heidi Aubrey (16)
Tuesday December 25, 2012, 10:12 pm
All you have to do is ask if the flu shot you are getting contains thimersol. If it does, skip it. If it doesn't its worth it. Here in California there were several deaths from the H1N1 (swine flu), All of them children. There was an entire shcoo(elementary)l that caught it. Those that weren't vaccinated became deathly ill and passed it on to their families as well so the parents now can't work-lose the house and so forth.

It is immature and irresponsible to believe that vaccinations are some kind of evil machination of Drug Companies. They have prevented far more than harmed on the order of millions saved to 1 allergic reaction.

Anyone care to vistit or live in a polio ravaged area of the world? Wouldn't it be nice to lose your legs and arms for life so you don't have to get a shot? No? They don't believe in vaccinations either. Infact they will kill those who try to vaccinate children. You know who they are. Do you share their same small minded values?
 

Les M. (5)
Wednesday December 26, 2012, 7:53 am
i used to get the flu every year. several years ago i started getting the flu shot and did NOT get the flu. one year i never got around to getting the shot and that year i did get the flu. same goes for my mother and husband. so it works for us.
 

LMj Recovering Sunshine (144)
Wednesday December 26, 2012, 2:24 pm
Interesting article and comments.
 

Melania Padilla (191)
Wednesday December 26, 2012, 8:59 pm
Thank you
 

Bruno Moreira (61)
Thursday December 27, 2012, 5:43 am
noted thanks
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday December 27, 2012, 1:08 pm
I think the flu do not need to vaccinate, It needs a lot of care . I thing there are facts in subject ,Thanks.
 

Hayley C. (7)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 10:37 am
Thanks
 
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