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Cal
- 576 days ago - forcechange.com
Preventing violence with the same threat of violence only doubles the likelihood that someone will be harmed. It seems like common sense, yet the National Rifle Association announced a dangerous prevention policy for school shootings in response to the tr



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Mandi T. (421)
Thursday December 27, 2012, 11:18 pm
Signed ty Cal

 

Roseann D. (178)
Thursday December 27, 2012, 11:21 pm
Stay out of it NRA. You've overstepped your bounds...again!
 

Jae A. (323)
Thursday December 27, 2012, 11:59 pm
Right you are Roseann, but they have a few hundred millions bucks of new revenue just waiting for them annually if they can swing this deal , aainst the betterment of our school age children. This isn't a nation under invasion or civil wars and that kind of suggestion/promotion goes against all that makes our nation or what it once made our nation to be. This will only add insult to enjury as far as our freedoms...our constitution are concerned. We have a right to not bear arms also and that is what these crazies fail to reconize. Stop the NRA now or forever be within their scopes...so ta say.
 

mag.w.d. Aichberger (34)
Friday December 28, 2012, 1:06 am
shoot da NRA
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (277)
Friday December 28, 2012, 2:30 am
done
 

Roger M. (0)
Friday December 28, 2012, 2:56 am
It's fighting madness with madness. Signed.
 

Arild Warud (159)
Friday December 28, 2012, 4:36 am
Signed,TY Cal.
 

Carol H. (229)
Friday December 28, 2012, 5:39 am
signed and noted, thanks Cal
 

John B. (215)
Friday December 28, 2012, 5:49 am
Thanks Cal for the link. Signed and noted.
 

NicoleAWAY W. (629)
Friday December 28, 2012, 5:59 am
signed and shared, thank you Cal
 

Vicynthia Tjahjadi (57)
Friday December 28, 2012, 6:29 am
Signed. Thanks.
 

Michela m. (3813)
Friday December 28, 2012, 7:01 am
S&N
 

. (0)
Friday December 28, 2012, 8:38 am
Signed and Noted.
 

Gloria picchetti (287)
Friday December 28, 2012, 8:41 am
Signed and shared.
 

Sara W. (110)
Friday December 28, 2012, 8:51 am
Two more signatures.
 

Danny AWAY M. (77)
Friday December 28, 2012, 9:05 am
Noted and signed. Thank you Cal!
 

Marlene Dinkins (229)
Friday December 28, 2012, 9:14 am
notato e firmato .grazie cal!!!!!
 

Kit B. (277)
Friday December 28, 2012, 9:50 am

. Your signature has been recorded. - signed and tweeted
 

Bartlomiej T. (307)
Friday December 28, 2012, 10:54 am
Noted & signed. Thank you, Cal.
 

Lisa Neste (695)
Friday December 28, 2012, 11:34 am
Signed, thanks Cal!
 

Jim Phillips (3215)
Friday December 28, 2012, 11:53 am
Petition signed.

Here is another petition worth looking, reading and signing -

Thank Piers Morgan For Speaking Out Against Gun Violence

Petition:

http://forcechange.com/48455/thank-piers-morgan-for-speaking-out-against-gun-violence/

Piers Morgan "said to Executive Director of Gun Owners of America Larry Pratt, ”You’re an unbelievably stupid man, aren’t you? You have absolutely no coherent argument. You don’t actually give a damn about the gun murder rate in America.”"

Ty, Cal.
.
 

Barbara K. (86)
Friday December 28, 2012, 12:23 pm
The problem is that we already have too many guns in too many hands in too many places. It is pure insanity to add more guns into the schools. It just invites more deaths, and intruder wouldn't even have to carry a weapon into the schools, just get one there. More people are killed in their own homes by their own guns; and that means that having guns in your home does not necessarily provide protection. The NRA doesn't care, it makes lots of money off gun sales and owners, who think they need the NRA if they want to own a gun. We need less guns in less hands in less places. We are not at war. Guns are for killing, and that is their only use. Sue the NRA out of business, or find some way to get rid of this horrible group of bloodsuckers.
 

Kathleen R. (138)
Friday December 28, 2012, 12:34 pm
signed & noted
 

Aaron Bouchard (125)
Friday December 28, 2012, 1:26 pm
Signed and noted thanks
 

Past Member (0)
Friday December 28, 2012, 1:27 pm
Never tire!
 

Vicky P. (462)
Friday December 28, 2012, 1:52 pm
noted and signed
 

Natalie V. (27)
Friday December 28, 2012, 3:01 pm
noted
 

Lois Jordan (55)
Friday December 28, 2012, 3:22 pm
Very gladly signed & noted. Much thanks, Cal!
 

DAVID LAIRD (0)
Friday December 28, 2012, 4:55 pm
SIGNED
 

Dorothy N. (63)
Friday December 28, 2012, 5:14 pm
There's more involved than gun sales, although that is an obvious purpose.

This is encouragement of the abandonment of the principles of centralized law and order, enforced via a government intended to be of/by/for the people, versus a vigilante-style 'might makes right' scenario, which suits psychopathic corporations forming the mightiest just fine.

This is advocating a Wild West nightmare form of anarchy, in a bizarre narrative where a Muslim born in Kenya who stole the election from those rightfully ruling Republicans who owned the voting machines (and installed mysterious and illegal software on at least some of it, who used gerrymandering, voter suppression, electoral cheating and still lost, to their evident disbelief) a socialist and fascist who's also 'the wrong Christian religion' and an atheist as well as a Muslim, has waited 4 years to utterly disarm the population, so as to round them all up into FEMA camps, and force them to endure affordable health care, food for even useless poor children, the elderly, disabled and impoverished adults unable to find work (in an economy ruined by Republican policies and slowly beginning to recover from a near-disaster as a result, despite Republican Congressional obstructionist policies acting against the interests of nearly all of those swallowing their PR,), and other socialistic schemes against the perpetrators of which the American founders would surely demand that gun violence be used, to shoot the Dems and get the kindly corporations/Republicans in charge again.

Republicans crazier than ever, with an agenda even more radical than that of the Bush admin. who so thoroughly installed corporations - given great power over the country, people, public policy - in every area of governance that it's virtually impossible to get these consolidated 'too big to fail' corporations off people's backs and out of even their most personal lives, as can be seen in a GOP which now represents only them and the wealthiest fraction of a percentage point of a large and predominately suffering population.

If you can manage to read through the following articles at source and put the info together with the inflammatory, fear/hate-mongering BS being propagated among those listening to FOX and other corporate media, such as the (Bain-owned, also) Clear Channel-type propagandists, you'll see what I mean.

(I seem to have had 2 comments regarding this removed already from another thread, and expect that this will also be massively flagged by NRA supporters, which is what I suspect happened there, so you'd better not count on this remaining.)

The transcript is not full by a long shot and doesn't show what I can only term the slime displayed - make certain to listen to the video.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/18/1171496/-Gun-Lobbyist-Americans-Should-Be-Prepared-To-Use-Firearms-to-Threaten-Elected-Officials

Tue Dec 18, 2012 at 09:33 AM PST
Gun Lobbyist: Americans Should Be ‘Prepared' To Use Firearms to Threaten Elected Officials

by MinistryOfTruth




I've seen this incident being offered as precedent for assassination of officials - and you can guess who the main target being offered in rather obvious dog-whistles would be.

http://voxvocispublicus.homestead.com/Battle-of-Athens.html

(video)



The politicians involved were brutalizing the population, threatening, beating and even shooting people in order to prevent fair elections.

If the situation was, indeed, as presented, this does sound like a situation where the same methods were the last resort necessary to restore democracy and protect the people - at that distant time and place.

Giving the people health care does not warrant an armed insurrection.

The Republicans tried to steal this (another) election using less brutal but effective voter-suppressing/electoral cheating tactics - Obama was not the candidate that effectively owned the voting machines in areas with Republican governors.

But we are not dealing with reality-grounded people here, and the inflammatory dialogue presented as 'news', in most if not all cases in the full knowledge of its being falsehood, seems intended to dupe people into acting against their own interests and in taking the rap for any homicidal incidents they are deluded into creating...


http://constitution.org/mil/tn/batathen.htm





The Battle of Athens
2 AUGUST 1946
I. Introduction
On 2 August 1946, some Americans, brutalized by their county government, used armed force to overturn it. These Americans wanted honest, open elections. For years they had asked for state or Federal election monitors to prevent vote fraud -- forged ballots, secret ballot counts, and intimidation by armed sheriff's deputies -- by the local political boss. They got no help.
These Americans' absolute refusal to knuckle-under had been hardened by service in World War II. Having fought to free other countries from murderous regimes, they rejected vicious abuse by their county government. These Americans had a choice. Their state's Constitution - Article 1, Section 26 - recorded their right to keep and bear arms for the common defense. Few "gun control" laws had been enacted. ...

In this incident, it's said that a black man demanding his right to vote was first beaten and later shot in the back when he persevered, and that the Veterans forced the resignation of the corrupt politician at gun-point - no assassination.

Most unlike the shootings to get their way which the gun lobbyist in that first video said, when pressed, that they didn't want to rush into...


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/21/1172692/-Fighting-the-NRA-leadership-means-knowing-who-is-in-it


Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 06:27 AM PST
Fighting the NRA leadership means knowing who is in it

by Meteor Blades

(Pic showing)
Ronnie G. Barrett with the .50 caliber sniper rifle he designed to sell to the civilian market.


The National Rifle Association will be making its much-awaited statement today regarding how to prevent more Sandy Hook massacres. Presumably, the organization's leadership will not be so stupid as to argue in favor of arming teachers and principals. But make no mistake, whatever is said today, it will have been vetted by the extremists who have run the organization for 20 years, even if its PR arm and consultants will have given it a patina of concern for America's children. (Full disclosure: I was a member of the NRA 1966-1987). Defeating the NRA and its agenda means knowing who the leadership is. We already know from previous polls and our own poll that gun owners do not agree with the NRA's extremism.
The NRA's Board of Directors is supposedly bipartisan, but that's a transparent disguise. As the Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence points out:

One only has to look to the NRA’s Board of Directors to discover that the organization is operated by a group of individuals who promote racism, misogyny, homophobia, anti-immigrant animus, religious bigotry, anti-environmentalism, and insurrectionism. Some active board members have even had close relationships with brutal dictators in outside nations. Put simply, members of the NRA leadership no longer make for polite company. Moreover, while superficially bipartisan, the NRA is closely aligned with the most extreme elements in the Republican Party and has brought a number of the GOP’s most influential operatives into positions of power within the organization. The GOP and NRA are now locked in a symbiotic relationship where Republican legislators advance the NRA’s extreme agenda while the NRA musters its hardcore supporters to serve as attack dogs for a wide range of conservative causes. ...


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/23/1173412/-Sorry-NRA-No-Second-Amendment-Right-To-Commercially-Sell-Guns

Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 06:17 PM PST
Sorry NRA, No Second Amendment Right To Commercially Sell Guns

by Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse


The NRA used to be a grassroots organization lobbying for the right of individuals to own and use guns for lawful reasons, such as hunting or self-defense. For years, the battle was over whether the Second Amendment was limited to militias or covered individuals. In 2008, the U.S. Supreme Court held that the Second Amendment "protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home." In fact, the Court clarified that "another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms" is that the "sorts of weapons protected were those 'in common use at the time' based on the "historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of 'dangerous and unusual weapons.'" Even Scarborough recognizes that "our Bill of Rights does not guarantee gun manufacturers the absolute right to sell military-style, high-caliber, semi-automatic combat assault rifles with high-capacity magazines to whoever the hell they want." ...


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/21/1172739/-I-Called-the-NRA-Today-Oh-Boy


Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 08:38 AM PST
I Called the NRA Today. Oh Boy!

by triplepoint



I have wondered recently whether the NRA has the courage of its convictions, and what their reaction might be if its headquarters were to be targeted by misguided gun enthusiasts. So I called the NRA HQ today to get answers that might obliquely shed some light. I couched my questions in the form of a bet between myself and a friend of mine who is into guns, (part of his business is ceramic powder coating of firearms), somewhat conservative, but not political. I have no use for weapons myself, but am not adamantly anti-gun, and actually am fascinated by the mechanisms of weapons, being somebody who does a lot of mechanical design. Some of the designs are quite elegant. I do disapprove of the excesses of gun ownership i.e., arsenals of high capacity, rapid fire firearms, and cheap handguns.
So I called the only phone number for the NRA on the internet---the membership number, of course. I finally got to an operator who connected me to the NRA's Institute for Legislative Action. I asked the woman who picked up (after I outlined the situation) whether staff members were allowed to carry firearms in the HQ offices, or store them in their desks. She said, 'Of course. This is Virginia, and it is a concealed carry state, so, yes, staff can carry weapons at work. We follow the law.' But when I asked whether visitors could enter the building with weapons, she clammed up, saying that as an employee, she could not answer the question. But she did give me a direct HQ number, (703) 267-1000, and told me to ask for security.
Which I did. I finally was connected to the public affairs department and spoke to a pleasant woman there. I told her my friend thought the NRA should allow visitor weapons, to be logically consistent, and that I disagreed, with the view that you can't always trust gun owners to act safely and that it would be dumb to assume visitors' goodwill. And that there was a six pack of beer riding on her answer. She told me that the security guards at the front desk were unarmed, but that visitors were not allowed to bring weapons into the building (except to their posh firing range, which has a separate entrance). Doesn't that leave the visitors at a bit of an disadvantage, I asked, and we had a bit of a chuckle about that. I was too chicken to ask her whether that policy was inconsistent with the NRA's present philosophy that seems to encourage shoot-outs.
So there you have it. The NRA staff is armed, while visitors are disarmed. ...

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This leads one to wonder whether, if an armed rebellion among the carefully misinformed started among disposable dupes actually succeeded in killing off Democratic politicians (not at all a Republican/corporate agenda, of course, just these crazy guys took the entertainment on our media the wrong way - go ahead, hang them while we take over government,) any civilian would be allowed any weapon at all after the Republicans took power - doesn't fit the Party of No who wishes to virtually enslave the general population of which those disinformed form part to let there be any chance at all of another armed rebellion using similar tactics, once people began to realize just how badly they'd been misled, and into what.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Friday December 28, 2012, 5:21 pm
signed. National Assault Rifle Association?
 

Barbara J. (9)
Friday December 28, 2012, 5:59 pm
Nothing like desensitizing our children to violence!
 

Thomas P. (468)
Friday December 28, 2012, 6:04 pm
Noted and signed...thanks Cal. Thanks to Jim P. as well...signed also!
 

Nikhil D (2)
Friday December 28, 2012, 6:49 pm
Bad guy with guy can only be stopped with good guy with.gun.according to.nra
 

Orange Blossom (0)
Friday December 28, 2012, 7:06 pm
Looks like the NRA is afraid of actually being challenged.
 

Jane Mckenzie (20)
Friday December 28, 2012, 7:35 pm
noted
 

Esther Z. (101)
Friday December 28, 2012, 7:42 pm
Noted and signed.
 

Joan M. (1091)
Friday December 28, 2012, 8:40 pm
Signed & Noted. Thanks Cal
 

James Maynard (66)
Friday December 28, 2012, 8:48 pm
We need to label the NRA what they are - a
terrorist organization that needs dismantled.
 

Parvez Zuberi (7)
Friday December 28, 2012, 11:00 pm
Noted and signed thanks
 

Unnikrishnan Sasidharan (48)
Saturday December 29, 2012, 1:40 am
S+N
 

Vyjayanti G. (1165)
Saturday December 29, 2012, 2:55 am
Signed..Thanks! ♥
 

Heidi B. (0)
Saturday December 29, 2012, 4:15 am
Guns should be only for last resort prevention & protection by only the Police & Military.

Gus / Weapons should NEVER accessible to / by the general public.

ALL those with access to ANY guns / weaponry MUST UNDER-GO 'MENTAL' & 'PHYSICAL' ASSESSMENT at least annually, to help reduce death / injuries.

 

Dandelion G. (381)
Saturday December 29, 2012, 8:20 am
Your signature has been recorded.
Thanks Jim for the Petition the hotlink is below. I watched that interview and I do give Piers Morgan a lot of credit for his standing up to this violence. The NRA and others are trying to get him fired from his job, so please write CNN with your letter of support for him.
Petition FOR Piers Morgan
Where to email in support of Piers Morgan to CNN
CNN COMMENT SECTION
 

DORIS L. (61)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 2:15 pm
Signed.
 

Dalia H. (1276)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 9:12 pm
Noted and signed my Beloved Friend Cal:)
HAVE A VERY BLESSED NIGHT EVERYBODY!!!
Much Love and Light
B.D♥
 

Sergio Padilla (62)
Tuesday January 1, 2013, 10:23 am
Done
 

Susanne R. (249)
Thursday January 3, 2013, 10:45 pm
Gladly signed and noted!
 

Scott P. (0)
Friday January 11, 2013, 12:32 pm
Now THIS is taking action... God bless these very smart teachers... READ this

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ohio-texas-teachers-flock-free-gun-training-classes-article-1.1235633
 
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