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Suicide Hotline Fights To Keep Vets And Troops Alive

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: military, healthcare, usa, news, health, government )

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For the first time in a decade of war, more active-duty troops have taken their own lives this year than have died fighting in Afghanistan.

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S√ľheyla C (234)
Friday December 28, 2012, 9:56 pm
Thanks Cal

Ro H (0)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 6:59 am

Gloria picchetti (304)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 7:38 am
It's too bad we didn't stay out of more wars.

pam w (139)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 9:55 am

Julie E (405)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 10:46 am
It is extremely heartbreaking.

My 27 daughter is suffering from PTSD from what she and ALL the other soldiers have and are still going through. She is a tough girl. She did think of suicide. She is now going to school full time to be a psychologist.

Aaron Bouchard (158)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 11:22 am
Noted thanks

Past Member (0)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 12:22 pm
Damned war!!!

. (0)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 1:44 pm
Very sad that the companies that benefit from these wars don't pay for the services that the troops need after them.

Jackie D (7)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 1:55 pm
Damned America and it's allies for waging wars in the first place. It's made the world a more dangerous place for all of us. Soldiers were sent to Vietnam to fight a war they had absolutely no business being in. The war in Iraq was an illegal act of pre-emptive aggression not sanctioned by international law or world opinion. Ditto the Vietnam war.

valda p (13)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 1:56 pm
So sad -these brave men do so much for their country -their country must look after them ,they witness horrible things ,they lose their mates in battle and would find it very hard to reajust to civilian life-we must honour them .

Natalie V (27)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 2:42 pm

Winn A (179)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 4:16 pm

Helen Porter (39)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 7:55 pm
I had the honor of working on Suicide Hot Line for five years until I went on to something else.

Here's what worked for us.

Listen. Do not educate, inform, explain. Just ask questions to keep the person talking. Let him get it all out and just let him know you care.

ALWAYS take a suicidal statement as REAL. There is a false idea that if someone says they're suicidal they're not. That is NOT true. With almost every suicide, the person told someone he/she was going to do it.
If you're not a professional, try to get the person to professional help.

Hope this information will help someone. You can save lives by just listening and letting the person get it all out. Actually, the most helpful thing you can do for those in crisis is to let them talk it out. Encourage them to find their own solutions.

Discover, if you can, what mental health organization is in your area. There may be a suicide prevention line like I worked on. If not, get the person to talk it out and ask him "What would you say if a friend came to you with the problem you're sharing with me?" Help her to find her own solutions. The old adage, give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, feed him for a life time;"

Helen Porter (39)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 8:01 pm
This article is right on.

It fills in a lot of points I didn't think I had room to make..

If anyone has a real interest in helping folks in crisis, you might want to join up with the mental health group in your area and turn professional. I loved it.


Kenneth L (314)
Sunday December 30, 2012, 11:27 pm
"I'm 100% convinced (that the cause of suicides among troops is the direct result of the use of psychiatric drugs). Iíve seen it and talked to hundreds of these guys. These medications really interfere with the brainís ability to normalize itself and adjust. Itís hard to make a choice on how to recover if your brain isnít operating the way it should be. Itís kind of like working with someone who is drunk. These medications are a chemical lobotomy.Ē Dr. Bart Billings, former U. S. military Psychologist

ďThe psychiatrists have no clue about what theyíre doing and itís Psychiatry that runs mental health in DoD and the VA. DoD has to stop trusting them. Iíve been trying to convince people that psychiatrists are nothing but legal drug dealers, and theyíre dealing drugs that donít work and actually kill peopleĒ Dr. Bart Billings, former U.S. military Psychologist

Carol H (229)
Monday December 31, 2012, 4:16 am
sadly noted, thank you Cal

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Monday December 31, 2012, 7:41 am

Nancy M (197)
Monday December 31, 2012, 10:53 am
I was hearing about this on NPR the other day. Good thing. Thanks for posting Cal.

Helen Porter (39)
Monday December 31, 2012, 4:43 pm
Kenneth, you are absolutely right about psychiatrists being drug dealers. I worked within the system for a while as a Recovery Support Specialist in connection with Crisis Line. The system is broken and the ones who complain the most about it are the ones who try to work within it. Still, when I was there, enough information was provided that if someone wanted to get well they could. Of course, there are exceptions.

We did have a group called REN, Recovery Empowerment Network. We were part of the system and they paid our wages from the mental health system. We educated the clients in how to recover from trauma and other causes for the fantasty of mental illness. We helped people to get off of meds, with doctors assistance.

Many who have a diagnosis have been through trauma that many normal people could not have survived. They are still trying to use the survival skills that helped them get through but in the "normal" world are cohsidered "crazy'.

Unfortunately, many folks with a diagnosis and a disability income are afraid to get well. Many were homeless and sick before their diagnosis. They are scared to get well.

Pharmaceutical companies provide huge bribes to the doctors (medical and psychiatrists) to push their poison and drugs. Just like in politics!

I'm glad to be out of the system. I resigned. I'm now a volunteer in the hospital with the bribed doctors there. I can use my Recovery Support Specialist skills to aid in their recovery. I am grateful. It's nice to be able to provide a listening ear and a cup of cold water in the medical hell. .

Kenneth L (314)
Tuesday January 1, 2013, 12:06 am
@ Zee, well technically I gave two quotes by Dr. Bart Billings, but I know what you mean.
Green star to you.
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