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Obama Pushes Universal Preschool Proposal


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Cal
- 592 days ago - news.yahoo.com
President Barack Obama on Thursday promoted his new proposal to guarantee high quality preschool for every 4-year-old in the United States citing a need to bring low-income and minority children up to speed with higher-income children-- a move he says wil



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mag.w.d. Aichberger (34)
Friday February 15, 2013, 4:09 am
Austria, er let me rephrase that: Austria's powers-to-be (may they soon become history!) has made Kindergarten MANDATORY (prescribing a minimum of 20 hours/week on least 4 days a week) ca. 2010.

With society decaying, UN-equality on the rise, and, generally, the $y$tem becoming ever more obviously and totally $ick, so that more force is required to press the young ones into it, the sheeple MUSZT be drilled harder, starting earlier, to be kept in line.

"Education is a system of imposed ignorance," and certainly even more (brutally) so now then when Chomsky said that.


 

TomCat S. (286)
Friday February 15, 2013, 4:26 am
Republicans are sure to oppose anything that might help people learn to think.
 

Dandelion G. (384)
Friday February 15, 2013, 7:16 am
I'm not sure how this will be done, we have schools here in Florida being closed all over the place for children that are already in the school system. 3 major schools just closed this week in the County next to mine, the parents on the news in tears. Everyone will need to be crammed into the remaining schools and class sizes will be going up. More teachers being laid off, less tax monies from their jobs going into the pot, all that is being done is taking away and shrinking. So while it sounds good on the speech and television, reality all around speaks another way.
 

Sheila D. (25)
Friday February 15, 2013, 10:26 am
Education is so important, and the sooner we can start, the better. Let's hope this works.
 

Gene Jacobson (253)
Friday February 15, 2013, 10:38 am
The President is right. We don't even have full day kindergarten for 5 year olds anymore, unless their parents can pay for it. We need to begin young and the government needs to fund the programs he is talking about. Investing in our children IS investing in our country and its future. There can hardly be anything more important, though there are many other things that need doing as well. We can afford this, we really can't NOT afford it.
 

Gloria picchetti (291)
Friday February 15, 2013, 11:50 am
They need to go to preschool. They get away from bad influences and start to learn good things early. It's important.
 

Deborah W. (6)
Friday February 15, 2013, 1:17 pm
... and then they go home at night.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday February 15, 2013, 1:58 pm
Children in the US already have the ability to attend preschool. Government preschool will do nothing for the education of these children except create more problems by inserting government where it doesn't belong . Lets get the parents of these kids to start supporting their own kids, they made them so they should support them. I never went to preschool and was at the top of my class in gradeschool, highschool and college because my parents put the time in for their kids. If a preschool child is not succeeding then that has nothing to do with the school, that is the fault of the parent. And If Obama doesn't believe that this action would add to the federal deficit then I want to know what drug he is on. He obviously has no grip on reality and people should wake up to the fact that he is draining every penny from our pockets. I am sure this is his underhanded move toward total socialism.
 

Gwendolen W. (0)
Friday February 15, 2013, 2:35 pm
@Tomcat - the problem is that our current school system isn't set up to teach students to think; it's set up to teach students to follow rules and indoctrinate them into the chosen belief/value system - and to punish students who don't follow the rules and accept everything they are told - mostly low-income and/or minority students. I agree that too many children are being failed and starting at a disadvantage from a very young age, but, like "Past Member" says, that is on the parent and the community (especially when the parent is unable or unwilling to play this role). If Obama had presented this as a "call to action" for communities to solve I would be all for it; instead he presented it as another problem that we shouldn't worry our pretty heads about because daddy government will take care of it for us. With Public Schools already struggling to adequately educate their students, I'm not sure how giving them more children to "serve" is going to be successful. And I'm also not sure how this is going to be done without increasing the deficit "by a single dime".
 

Lois Jordan (56)
Friday February 15, 2013, 3:01 pm
Our district's in the process of closing many schools as well. This is a countrywide epidemic. I'm reading the reason is the vast expansion of charter schools. This has taken so much money from public schools and should be ended. I think it's definitely a good idea to institute Pre-K programs throughout America. If we can get kids in school around the age of 3 into Pre-K programs, it gives them more equal footing when they attend kindergarten. These are half-day programs. Our kindergartens are all "full day" now.
 

Dee C. (212)
Friday February 15, 2013, 3:35 pm
As a single working parent..I raised two boys..and a sister/brother..Before they even got to preschool they all knew their numbers..alphabet..colors..shapes..and could spell their names..I also taught them to think for themselves as they got older..They all did great..went on to college and have very good careers today..
That was decades ago..Today it is even more important to teach your kids..The schools are so over crowded and though there are really great teachers out there..They just have too much on their plates with all of the cuts..and shortage of teachers due to lay-offs..
 

Winn Adams (192)
Friday February 15, 2013, 3:52 pm
I hope the republicans don't screws this up.
 

pam w. (191)
Friday February 15, 2013, 4:02 pm
Only an idiot would fail to see the value to our country in starting children out with education and respect for learning!

Puffing yourself up because YOU never had the opportunity for pre-school and were ''top of your class'' has no meaning whatsoever to the millions of children unfortunate enough to grow up in areas where education isn't valued.

Each and every child should have a free education...it only makes sense.
 

Birgit W. (145)
Friday February 15, 2013, 4:24 pm
Noted
 

John B. (215)
Friday February 15, 2013, 6:34 pm
Thanks Cal for the post and the link to the excellent article by Rachel Rose Hartman. The idea is really great but I doubt if the GOP House will go along with any thing to do with "critical thinking" or early education. The earlier a child's education starts the better. Read and noted.
 

Mitchell D. (131)
Friday February 15, 2013, 6:59 pm
Winn, I will second that emotion.
Pam, you are right, but, unfortunately, this country sends too many idiots to congress.
John, "critical thinking" is precisely what the Republicans, and the even more right wing-nuts do not want. They want to be able to obfuscate, propagandize, and in any other way practice pulling the wool over the eyes of the populace.
That is what the "Creation Museum," for one thing, is all about, and so on.
Let's home school. so that our children are not exposed to the scientific method, which requires rational thought! No offense meant to those parents who home school because their school system, in as erudite a way as I can say it, sucks!
 

Ray M. (0)
Friday February 15, 2013, 7:42 pm
He is so right on about this issue. Too bad the despicable repugs will vote it down along with every other sensible proposal he submits. They don't give a damn about the poeple, just the greedy corporations who fund their campaigns. Democracy? NOT.
 

Billie C. (2)
Friday February 15, 2013, 8:00 pm
there is no reason the feds need to be involved in local education. there is to much of that now. if parents want their kids to have pre-k they will find a way to pay for it at the state level. ga uses lottery funds. it's time to stop the growth of the fed and stop the massive spending coming out of dc. it's time for people to stand up at the state and local levels and decide what they want and then how to pay for it.
dc needs to take care of national matters like security not be in our bedrooms and classrooms.
 

Diane O. (148)
Saturday February 16, 2013, 3:20 am
Thank you, BillieC! Yet another entitlement for the taxpayers to fund. I couldn't help but think that Obama wants to indoctrinate them very young....make liberals out of them LOL!
 

jan b. (3)
Saturday February 16, 2013, 6:59 am
As Al Sharpton quoted......"More for war means less for the poor"
 

Allan Yorkowitz (453)
Saturday February 16, 2013, 11:01 am
In theory, this sounds wonderful. In practice, this can be an economic disaster for schools. Has Obama considered that most schools are at a capacity level, and have no room for a preschool program? Is the government going to fund the building on of classrooms?
My district was the first in the state to have a preschool program in 1997. Since then, it has grown to 6 half day classes. Two years ago, we had to start charging a fee in order to attend. The cost was becoming overwhelming.
 

donald Baumgartner (4)
Saturday February 16, 2013, 1:16 pm
Hope this works out, BUT, the Repugs will throw a monkey wrench into it, just wach & see!!!!
 

Ludger W. (72)
Saturday February 16, 2013, 1:51 pm
noted, ty
 

Jeremy S. (2)
Saturday February 16, 2013, 4:39 pm
This is not only a proposal with concrete benefits that will raise the level of education and affluence in the US, but a proposal that simply makes good sense! I only hope it isn't blocked simply because it came from the candidate certain people vowed not to let win a second term.
 

Ros G. (91)
Sunday February 17, 2013, 3:16 am
Thanks Cal - Hardly Universal only National/Federally. America is not the centre of the Universe, it's about time they took a real look at what the rest of the world is already doing. But then when you have citizens like Diane O - I can understand that thinking.
 

Diane O. (148)
Sunday February 17, 2013, 3:27 am
47% of Americans think the same way I do. I'm sure you can understand that I am among the nearly 50% of Americans who recognize Obama for what he is....a radical. In both elections, Obama did not win by a landslide which is something the liberals conveniently forget when on their knees praising this incompetent president. In other words, a very divided country with the Obama worshipers and those who see right through his narcissism has created the atmosphere we have in America today.

Funding universal pre-k is not a bad idea, however, Obama throws this out there at a time when we should be focusing on over $16 trillion in debt. Adding one more entitlement program instead of cutting spending is telling about Obama. He simply doesn't have the math skills to understand that this added entitlement after he received not one but two credit downgrades is bizarre.
 

Yvonne Taylor (41)
Sunday February 17, 2013, 5:01 am
I would have commented on the site but do not like it when you have to get some app for Facebook to post. Was going to post- I see the Tea Party found this site for comments .Sure, you push for corporations to get subsidies they do not need, but heaven forbid you care about our future generation, Einstein said the Definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over and expecting the same results. You Tea Party nuts just keep saying no to everything and you fit his description. All you care about is your personal selves, not even the children of our country!
 

Diane O. (148)
Sunday February 17, 2013, 8:53 am
Not so fast....of course republicans care deeply about educating our children. Assuming you are head of your household and take care of the finances and your income is $2,000 a month and your fixed expenses are $,1500 a month, would YOU knowingly add a new debt with a payment of $500 a month? No? And why not? Would it be because you could not afford to pay it back?

Case closed.
 

Judith Hand (59)
Sunday February 17, 2013, 9:26 am
All fir it.
 

Ros G. (91)
Sunday February 17, 2013, 1:07 pm
Diane O - calling the kettle black (excuse the pun) - your maths skills aren't that good either 53% are for Obama then. Ivy T good point about subsidies to Corporations, etc ..
 

Birgit W. (145)
Sunday February 17, 2013, 4:41 pm
Thanks
 

Diane K. (136)
Monday February 18, 2013, 8:49 am
I thought Pre-School programs were already funded by the states, such as "Headstart". If they're state funded, I'm not sure why the Federal Government has to get involved.
If they're no longer going to be State funded, perhaps that would be reason?!
Thanks
 

Diane O. (148)
Monday February 18, 2013, 8:54 am
Diane, you are absolutely correct! It's an interesting read to research the success/failure of Headstart. That's an eye opener.
 

Craig Zimmerman (86)
Monday February 18, 2013, 10:00 am
Parents need to get more involved in preparing their children for school. I'm not sure another expensive government program will help.
 

Diane O. (148)
Monday February 18, 2013, 10:08 am
Craig, this is the very reason Headstart has not rendered the results they had hoped for. Too many single parent mothers in the African American communities and no father figure...no encouragement to learn, etc.

I don't have a problem with pre-kindergarten programs but Obama is so incompetent when it comes to economics that he introduces this at a time when our social programs are already on the brink of saturation.

A smart president would never have introduced that idea at this time. It is destined to fail because of Obama's lack of leadership skills. How about a balanced budget first, Obama? I mean, you just can't make this stuff up.
 

jo M. (3)
Monday February 18, 2013, 10:57 am
Obama is lying yet again if he says this will not add to the federal deficit. Early childhood education should be the domain of parents and state and local commmunities, not the federal govt. Maybe what we should have is adult education for the lazy, uneducated, ignorant parents who abdicate their responsibilities to their children.
 

Diane O. (148)
Monday February 18, 2013, 11:19 am
Jo, even the liberals KNOW Obama is lying but they can't bring themselves to question him. Obama gets high on the sound of his own voice and we never know from one day to the next what kind of sheer nonsense he will spew. While the liberals jump and cheer him on, the republicans are sitting back scratching their heads saying, "Did HE really just say that?" America is a very different country today because we have a liberal population who simply can't think through lies and distortion of the truth.

Obama could stand before the liberals this afternoon swishing his head from side to side reading from his heartfelt teleprompter telling them that for the next four years they will have a tax increase up to 45% and they would grin, smile, chuckle, jump around and clap while the media would be firing out endless articles on how brilliant Obama is and that raising the taxes is for the GOOD of our country. Then the media would turn on the republicans who dare to print the truth calling us racists because we never bought into Obama's lies and deceit.
 

Barbara K. (84)
Monday February 18, 2013, 1:34 pm
Go for it, Mr. President. We have your back. The Republibaggers just want our kids to be stupid as they are, but we won't let them get away with it. We need more education, not less, and this is a vitally needed program, and the intelligent among us know it and want it. Go get 'em, Mr. President, and thank you.
 

Barbara K. (84)
Monday February 18, 2013, 2:16 pm
Did you know that on Rachel Maddow on MSNBC tonight she will be narrating Hubris, showing us and telling us all about how the Republicans lied us into the Iraq war? I saw several previews and it will be great information for us all. Of course we know they lied us into war, but this will spare no names. Pass on the info all you can so they can all have a better understanding.
 

Craig Zimmerman (86)
Monday February 18, 2013, 2:21 pm
If parents cannot be trusted to raise their children without government intervention from birth, then we have a much larger problem that another government bureacracy won't fix.
 

Ros G. (91)
Monday February 18, 2013, 2:45 pm
Our Western Democrazy's are falling way behind in education irrespective of who pays - state or private funds. The Australian Government has just bought in a new Immigration Law..anyone who invests $AU5mil here will get automatic Citizenship - what has that got to do with pre-school - EVERYTHING. It means that the Chinese that want to educate their children can now do it on their Mainland. Buy a house in e.g Sydney that makes their children eligible for a place in an International English speaking school - so now they can start their children at 2 or 3 years old. Our Real Estate industry said even if the Government made it $10mil they would still be flooded with sales. Makes your senario of $500.00pm sound pathetic Diane O. To the Chinese their children's education is priceless
 

Diane O. (148)
Monday February 18, 2013, 2:59 pm
What isn't being said here is that the vast majority of our children DO go to college and grad school, some to law school and some get their PhD's and we are still the most progressive country in the world. When I read comments from the liberals you would think that America is full of stupid people.

Take a long hard look at other countries and you'll note that many are not doing well financially and some are even considering going to private health insurance. You must do more research and get back to us.

You might want to ask yourself why we have so many international students who come to the US to be educated. I would actually be very interested in your answer.

Parents are responsible for the raising of their children, Craig. I so agree with your comments.
 

Ros G. (91)
Monday February 18, 2013, 4:14 pm
Diane O - In your own words you have pointed out to other countries that America is full of stupid people not just on this thread but others - examples 53% that Voted for Obama are stupid, those that got caught up in the Sub-Prime are stupid and I bet some of them were Republicans as well - so now we have an increase on your 53% even if the figure is estimated at say 7% (being generous here) that makes it 60%. Yes a lot of your children may go to college, etc as you pointed out but how many get JOBS and what cost is their student debt? Here in Australia we have a different system for students: they don't have to pay their HECS fees until they get a job and are earning over $35K a year and their fees are much lower to start off with. Why do they go to America or any another English speaking country it's not because the education is superior - it's just to be in an English speaking environment - most go back to their own countries after that. The point is that if you get Australian citizenship - it makes you eligible to be educated in your OWN country in an International School. Which means children now can go to school in an English speaking environment as young as 2 and 3 which means travelling abroad will not be as necessary in their later years. As for private health insurance a bit off the thread - clutching at straws now.
 

Deborah W. (6)
Monday February 18, 2013, 9:24 pm
Eloquent speaker, grandios ideas we can all buy into. Without the bucks or management and cost control skills, however, it's just more BO leakage ... time to push back.
 

Lindsay Kemp (1)
Tuesday February 19, 2013, 4:50 am
Education is important for all . But there is more to education than simple academic learning. Children learn a lot through play, through being with their parents/grandparents - whoever cares for them - and values and boundaries need to be learnt as well. And children need plenty of time to be children, to develop their imaginations, to explore, to test out etc. etc. Yes, academia is important, but don't be too quick to stick little ones behind a desk with a pen in their hand and a book open in front of them, and pressure all around.
 

Lisa Sears (172)
Wednesday February 20, 2013, 11:14 am
This is such a great idea! I hope he has the support and tenacity to bring it about.
 

Helen Porter (40)
Saturday February 23, 2013, 5:35 am
That would be wonderful except for who's going to pay for it.

Many of our greatest genius men and women began as poor children.
 
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