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What's It Like to Wake Up From a Tea Party Binge? Just Ask Florida!


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Tea Party, abuse, cover-up, dishonesty, usa, politics, economy, government )

Cal
- 664 days ago - motherjones.com
Kids locked up in nursing homes. Leaky sewers. Mosquitoes unleashed. The Sunshine State has buyer's remorse.



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TomCat S. (231)
Friday February 22, 2013, 4:09 am
It's like a severe case of InsaniTEA.
 

Bill K. (14)
Friday February 22, 2013, 4:32 am
what these tea party and libertarian nuts fail to realize is government exists for a good reason, and in a democracy government is merely a reflection of us all. when it's working government is all people working together for such things as to build roads and police and fire and just to look out for each other. sure it's often messy and doesn't work well at times. but that doesn't mean you get rid of government. you fix it. without some public services and some regulations it just becomes a free-for-all with no one benefiting. it sounds good to say let's cut spending. but people never like when it's something they rely on that's being cut.

my favorite crazy tea party supporter story was a tea party congressman who attended a tea party rally in D.C.. after the rally the subways were crammed as there were not enough trains running. a lot of tea party ralliers were complaining, even accusing the government of shutting down trains just so the tea party ralliers would be inconvenienced. so the congressman complained to the the subway authority first thing Monday morning. turns out trains had been cut from the schedule because the year before their budget was cut by a bill in Congress which that tea party congressman had voted for with the support of the tea party. it's sometimes a pain when you get what you want.

cutting government is not what the tea party wants. what they really want is to cut government programs for other people, not for them. only they're too stupid to realize what benefits them. that's why so many of them are against government involvement in healthcare while they hold signs saying don't touch my Medicare.
 

Alexandra Rodda (177)
Friday February 22, 2013, 6:41 am
What a deluded megalomaniac that Scott is.
 

Gene Jacobson (255)
Friday February 22, 2013, 6:50 am
"Now, the Sunshine State may be a harbinger of another realignment: Support for Scott and the GOP is plummeting as Floridians see anti-government governance at work. But it may be too late for buyer's remorse. After two years at the helm, the tea party's legacy is likely to far outlast the movement."

Here is the problem. For more than two decades, I guess you'd have to go back to the Reagan years really, public employees and public projects have been demonized by the right wing. Budget cuts have been the norm for more than 20 years, no growth, a 1 or 2% reduction as a START to the local and state budgetary process, all the while Congress kept passing unfunded mandates into law and requiring states to adapt their laws to conform.

Public employees have had to do "more with less" for more than 20 years. That they have done so without reducing the level of service provided only served to fuel the right wing argument and the general population's view point. Those days are gone. The public is no longer being spared the pain of the cuts that have been enforced by the right wing because programs and staffing have been cut to the bone. It is no longer a matter of how can we do all of this, but what can we stop doing that will hurt the least. So service centers are closing earlier, libraries are not open every day, "fees" for some services have replace partially what was one a tax burden shared by all for the common good. It takes weeks to get some things done now that used to be done in a few days, backlogs are mountainous, and the public is screaming "I didn't mean ME", I meant the welfare queens (which existed only in Reagan's mind and in a few cases of actual fraud) should lose services. Well we're not in Kansas anymore and THIS, every word in that article is happening in states across the country, especially in those controlled by teapublican's who took office in 2010, and people, ordinary people are noticing they aren't getting the level of service they want. It is still polite, but it takes longer to do, lines are long, potholes are fixed as they appear, you can't even get paper forms to do your taxes. THIS is what the people said they wanted. Now, after decades, they are feeling the truth of what they have said they wanted with their votes come home to roost. This is the government you asked for, this is the government you get.

Our national infrastructure is degrading in every way, schools are outdated and not equipped for the information age, new roads are not being built and those few that are take years longer, police and fire fighter staffing levels have dropped so it takes longer for first responders to get to emergencies, and many small things never happen. One big storm could knock out our entire electrical grid which is held together with baling wire. Our water and sewer systems built to last 60 years are more than 100 years old in most cities and virtually beyond repair as patch upon patch upon patch does not really FIX anything.

My hope is that now, that the general public is SEEING and FEELING the results of voting right wing, that they'll reverse course and in 2014 those teapublican governors will all be history including Rick Scott, the freaking hypocrite who got rich off government programs and now cuts them to the bone and beyond. This is what the people asked for, that they don't like it once they got it is the only hope of becoming again a great nation that cares for each other and our environment, that provides for the sick, the disabled, the elderly and the children. Sooner rather than later. Leaving this clowns in office will reduce services further. Which is fine with some people until it is THEIR house that burns down because the fire station nearest them had to close. You get what you pay for, people need to understand the truth of that and then decide what services do we want and are willing to pay for.

Of course, as Scott said, government only gives back what it has already taken, that is the ENTIRE purpose of a progressive income tax, to provide public services like police, fire, hospitals and education that individuals and individual cities cannot afford on their own. That is why we have government to provide for the common good that which people cannot provide for themselves safely. Wannabe your own police force? Fine. But don't cry to me when your house is robbed, it is what YOU voted for. We are SO shortsighted we humans. And for an intelligent species incredibly stupid. People voted these buffoons into office, now they have to live with them. And now they are whining about it. Sorry, my sympathy doesn't extend to people who seem to think public services grow on trees like apples and want them for themselves but no one else. Selfishness should not be a national virtue, yet it is the only thing the right wing has to offer, selfishness and division. Some American Dream to look forward too, isn't it?
 

Dandelion G. (383)
Friday February 22, 2013, 7:17 am
Florida's internationally renowned mosquito control system took a half century to build, but only three years to decimate. A concern in a state that has regular outbreaks of West Nile virus and has seen an uptick in dengue fever. "Mosquitoes, they don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, or independent. They can eat you, infect you, kill you, regardless of party."

Joseph Conlon, a technical adviser to the American Mosquito Control Association in Florida said, "You've got the government trying to cut budgets across the board, but down here in Florida, the place would be uninhabitable without mosquito control."

But that isn't a concern to the Tea Partier Rick Scott that has done his best to take out the Government on everything environmentally protective. Even our drinking water is no longer of a concern to our Gov. Rick Scott, as Democratic legislator from Palm Beach Rep. Pafford said, "We defecate in the water we drink because we don't want government control. At the same time we offer 18 bills on whether a woman can have an abortion."

I suppose that is one way to cut the budget down in Florida, make it so the entire State isn't fit to live in, no water to drink and the mosquitos to eat the remaining stragglers alive. Come to Florida and get West Nile virus or dengue fever but taxes are low and Government is out of the way.

"Nowhere in the country is it this hard to get help when you lose a job," said Valory Greenfield, a staff attorney at Florida Legal Services.

The effects were felt almost immediately by this slash and burn Governor, from the state level—nearly 4,500 state jobs were eliminated. When one needs to see if they might be eligible for something, forget it, the Food Pantry said they have more people that are there due to the fact they can't get Food Stamps. There is no office to "see" anyone, one waits on the phone forever in hopes for someone to eventually answer it. If you leave a message no one gets back to you, if there is a mistake made on the application or the processing of it will never get fixed even if you get someone to say they will, it doesn't.

My daughter has been fighting this for a year now as they placed the Child Support income that at the time was 4 months in "Arrears" as her montly income, denying her Food Stamps. It never gets fixed, therefore she never has gotten the Food Stamps despite no income from work nor the child's Father. Is why she knows that she isn't the only one, the Food Pantry said it's a common complaint they hear, people can't get even the little that is offered in programs.

This is why my unemployed daughter and the many twentysomething sons and daughters of friends I know are all doing so poorly, they can't get a leg up anywhere. If you find yourself down here, you remain down, our woods are full of people who have nowhere else to go, the youth can't launch on no jobs, low income jobs, and part time work.

It is also a "right to work" State, so even if you manage to get a job, you can be fired at the drop of a hat, depends on how the wind blows, one bad week in sales you are out the door, a nephew of the employer moved to town, he will have your job, you happened to mention you don't like Nascar your gone, you voted for.....that will loose the job and if you question the employer on anything including a safety issue, you are out the door. Benefits of any kind, oh ha ha ha ha. You have the benefit to be fired at will.

The nearly 4 million Floridians who lack health insurance—more than 1 in 5 in a state with the second-highest rate of uninsured in the country.

Today, a single parent with two children can't qualify for Medicaid in Florida if she makes more than $3,200 a year—one of the nation's lowest eligibility levels. And if you make a dollar over that amount, how does one keep a roof over their head and feed themselves (pray you might get Food Stamps) and pay for their medical on that low income?

And people DO Die from this lack, I know, I've been to their funerals, one was only 26 years old!

When he ran for governor in 2010, Rick Scott's main credential was his vast wealth, but even before he was elected in 2010, Scott spent $5 million of his own money—earned leading a health care company that derives much of its revenue from government payments—to fight Obamacare. So this is what BIG money does for people, it allows the Hard Hearted to get into office to cause pain, suffering, and death for others.

How did he make his money?

During Scott's tenure at Hospital Corporation of America he was caught systematically defrauding federal health programs of millions of dollars through elaborate schemes to overbill the government for various services, including care it never provided.

In 2000, the company pleaded guilty to 14 federal felony charges and paid $1.7 billion in fines in what was the largest government fraud settlement in history. A few months after the federal investigation was announced, Scott was forced to resign, but not before snagging a $310 million golden parachute.

So whether Rick Scott is in political office or out of office, this man cares only for himself and to heck with anyone else. He only won my the tiniest of margins, but he won, hence our misfortune, and even with all the other ruthless names of Governors that you read in the news, ours is voted the "worse Governor of all 50 States" and he certainly has earned that spot!



 

tasunka m. (338)
Friday February 22, 2013, 10:24 am
The old adage is so true,an ounce of prevention -a lb. of cure
I never liked florida much, the climate doesn't suit me,or I would have wound up there
too much humidity for me, and the social climate has been decimated from when democrats were the majority..
Don't even know how Florida became so full of insanity, and the bad luck is a corker.
That added to the Huge Mistake they made electing Bush instead of Gore, make me hate the florida heirarchy even more...Dandelion I am astounded that you can handle this place..I guess you create your own world...
Good for you....the corruption is reminiscent of the caribbean islands where money goes missing all the time,and they are so corrupt,no one does a thing about it.
Thanks Cal
 

Dandelion G. (383)
Friday February 22, 2013, 10:57 am
I do create my own world Tasunka. My health requires me to be in a year round warm climate, but I'm in one of the more liberal Counties in a University Town, surrounded by Federal, State, and County parks that also is next to the largest Spiritualist Community in the South. We have more "sixties" type of people who have settled here, we have a lot of educated, so it is not so typical of a lot of places in this State. If we had more better paying jobs and if this Governor wouldn't keep destroying what we do have in the area it would be ideal in many ways. Our County did tax itself to protect lands and to build bike paths, playgrounds, and community parks for the people to enjoy. So I feel badly that this State has so much potential but it is prevented from moving forward by the ignorant, the too many short sighted, and the "Greedy Ones".
 

Phil P. (93)
Friday February 22, 2013, 1:44 pm
We Floridians can always say we're not as bad as Arizona. Small consolation I know. There may be some saving grace if we can dump Scott and the Republican legislature in the next election. If not, Floridians deserve what they get.
 

Birgit W. (152)
Friday February 22, 2013, 2:06 pm
Noted
 

David Johnson (15)
Friday February 22, 2013, 2:08 pm
There is nothing that I can write that compares to the eloquence of the posts of others here. Florida...what a sad mess! People had better awaken!
 

Christeen Anderson (549)
Friday February 22, 2013, 2:36 pm
TomCat is soooooooooooo right.
 

mon dem (0)
Friday February 22, 2013, 2:41 pm
We're seriously in need of some coffee down here!
 

jan b. (3)
Friday February 22, 2013, 2:44 pm
We had around 12 democrats and 38 republicans in the FLorida legislature. I may be off on those figures but the ratio is about the same.
They are so in bed with the insurers and please let me rant about that and give you-all an example. Even though most of us already have health insurance---they have mandated vehicle personal-injury protection (PIP ) which can run $100+ Because of the PIP there is more accident fraud than ever with people filing bogus claims....and so the insurers don't suffer for it ...they just raise our premiums .
 

Louise D. (38)
Friday February 22, 2013, 3:09 pm
Well Florida is Americas Wang but they have realized the hard way that Teabaggers suck balls.
 

Carol H. (229)
Friday February 22, 2013, 6:14 pm
noted, thanks Cal
 

Mary Donnelly (47)
Friday February 22, 2013, 8:06 pm
Thanks Cal--extraordinarily sad post.
 

cathie S. (154)
Friday February 22, 2013, 8:27 pm
OMG we just moved to FL, well we will have to just work to fix this I know it will be a up hill battle but it can be done.
 

Ro H. (0)
Saturday February 23, 2013, 7:24 am
ty
 

Philip Heinlein (472)
Saturday February 23, 2013, 8:30 am
Be careful what you wish for... you just might get it.

Note: this applies to the sequester as well, tea party fanatics.
 

Robert K. (31)
Saturday February 23, 2013, 11:30 am
If the Floridians have actulaly awoken to the depth of Teapublican insanity there will be no Republicans elected in 2014. Sadly, I doubt they have.
 

Dave C. (227)
Saturday February 23, 2013, 12:30 pm
have they really woken up???
 

Susanne R. (249)
Sunday February 24, 2013, 11:34 pm
Don't get me wrong. I don't like Rick Scott, but I have to admit that he finally did something right. According to the NY Times:

Rick Scott Accepts Reality
By DAVID FIRESTONE

Conservatives ridiculed Gov. Rick Scott of Florida as a traitor to their cause after he announced yesterday that he would expand the state’s Medicaid program with money from President Obama’s health care reform system. In fact, he simply accepted reality before they did. Eventually, all the holdout states will knuckle under and do exactly the same thing.

The logic in favor of doing so is overwhelming. By investing a relatively small amount of their own money to cover the poor, states get a huge increase in federal Medicaid funds. For instance, by spending $3 billion over the next decade on Medicaid, Mr. Scott’s state will receive $26 billion. The Kaiser Family Foundation estimates that the collective incremental cost to states for expanding Medicaid is $8 billion, a 0.3 percent increase through 2022. In exchange, federal spending on Medicaid increases by $800 billion, or 21 percent.

The benefits of that small investment are enormous: a significant increase in the number of insured people, rising by as much as 16 million if all states go along. Throughout the United States, the indigent and uninsured now get expensive emergency health care courtesy of state, county and local treasuries, as well as hospital corporations that have to charge more to everyone else as a result. Florida’s hospitals spent $2.8 billion on the uninsured in 2011, and the power of their lobbyists were a major reason why Mr. Scott changed his mind."
..............
Maybe his motives weren't pure, but I actually dislike him a little less today. Bu there's always tomorrow...
 

Dandelion G. (383)
Monday February 25, 2013, 8:29 am
Indeed, Susanne, his motives are purely self centered, but in this case, at least the poor uninsured may be helped. It was he and his money that led the way for the charge against the Affordable Health Care Act and certainly the extended Medicaid. However, he is being pushed by the Hospitals for one, here in Florida, as they are absorbing the uninsured that are coming to them in terrible conditions and the lack of insurance is being passed onto the taxpayers and the hospitals when someone can't pay. They want the extended Medicaid, believe me, they pushed him to accepting this.

He isn't really being like by his own Party much less anyone else, so he now needs to put out the propaganda on look what I'm doing. He is in hopes most people haven't paid attention, so he can do a few things at the end of his term and toot his horn, look what I'm doing.
 
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