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Anti-Israel Remarks Test John Kerry's Diplomacy in Turkey

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Secretary of State John Kerry traveled to Turkey to stress points of agreement with the ally. Now, he's putting out fires after the prime minister made comments maligning Israel.

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. (0)
Friday March 1, 2013, 4:10 pm
Kerry handled this just right.

lee e (114)
Friday March 1, 2013, 8:13 pm
I've been so anti - Israeli genocidal behavior toward Palestine - I cannot either support or not his statement -- sorry it sounds like a "wimp-out' to me -- I'm sure that will offend a lot of my Jewish friends!

Nimue Michelle P (339)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:16 am

Lynn D (0)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 3:07 am

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 4:40 am

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Saturday March 2, 2013, 4:50 am

Anna M (18)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 6:07 am
I understand the need to help other countries....I don't understand letting Americans go hungry and homeless.
Help our own people first, then help other countries with what is left

Ro H (0)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 6:46 am

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 12:56 pm
"Charity begins at home!"

Lloyd H (46)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 1:26 pm
John evidently you do not count the billions that the USA gives to Israeli military which by the way goes up by treaty with Israel 25% every year until 2018 topping out at over $4.5 Billion.
Sorry Israel is not the 51st state of the USA and while their ambitions and security do occasionally coincide with those of the US they are not those of the USA and should not be treated as such.

jan b (5)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 1:33 pm
If I had to CHOSE to live in one of the countries in the middle east it would be ISRAEL ..NO HESITATION. on part...
I feel sorry for Israel living amongst the insane. It's not just the GOVTs like Hamas who throws rockets into Israel and people even posting here...think Israel shouldn't relaliate.....but is also the parents who threw acid on their 15 year old daughter and killed her in a honor killing. Or the young girl who promoted education for women who got shot in the head by the taliban. If you believe these incidents are isolated your're 100% wrong about that too. It will be a hot day in the Arctic before I stick up for the muslim countries.

Past Member (0)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:00 pm
Yes janice me too The muslims cause more bloodshed everyday everywhere in the world thats without the rapes, honour killings, sex slavery, paedophilia than the Israeli s ever do

Noted thanks

Süheyla C (234)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:06 pm
Our eternal friend of the Jews. Aids War of Independence leader Atatürk very touched: and the Turkish people. Engilish and I get to help the Greeks, the Armenians and the Kurds always took the riots. However, the Jewish friends, to us, did not betray the Turkish homeland. Jewish loyalty to the Turkish friend of mine learned. Israel dropped a political game. I wish I had willed apology. Israel's government is aware of paranoia; fundamentalists religionists game.

Süheyla C (234)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:09 pm
Civilian aid ship in international waters, killing nine non-citizens. Made a very big mistake. I will add this error management book. Since the Jews from Ataturk me and always will remain my friends. I'm not made me evil. To forget favors.

Süheyla C (234)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:11 pm
Each Ataturk, each of freedom, each of independence, every liberation struggle. I remember the words of our friends together. Will remain friends until his death. They are love very very much.

Süheyla C (234)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 2:22 pm
I love all Jews friend.

Alexa R (319)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 3:22 pm
Ty Suheyla .. we love you back ..

Gary L (138)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 4:48 pm
janice and carol your bigotry is showing you excuse Isreal of murdering 9 turkish citizens in an unpovoked act but condemn all muslins wow you two need some mental health work of course you will howl in protest but thats alright I'm used to people like you on this site who mhave a double standerd

Süheyla C (234)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 7:48 pm
Let's look back in our lives. All evils come from strangers. Available to human error. Sometimes a relatives. Our parents sometimes, sometimes the judges of our country. Sometimes the mother, sometimes our own people. Gave us great harm. Domestic violence. Their own people, our own people our religion. Harassment. Rape. Torture. Does not? Yes. Causing them to forgive. Cungu I (ego) defeat; World brotherhood. I believe it. Not lead me to be vindictive God. God is love. Have a heart of love struck. It is large enough. Open to love. Not to be loved.

The big forgive. The big one apologizes. I'm the mother. All human beings are my children ..

Alexander W (53)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 8:20 pm
Gary, the Islamist thugs attacking unarmed Israeli soldiers with knives and throwing them overboard are not "regular Turkish citizen".

Another day such thugs may attack you - for drinking alcohol, for kissing your babe, for just not praying when their time to pray come, or to eating something when they have to fast.

Erdogan and his Islamists in power are a disaster for Turkey.

Beth S (330)
Saturday March 2, 2013, 10:16 pm
Unlike what the Christian Science Monitor said, Turkey starting changing when the USSR fell apart. The government and military had been on good terms with Israel, and the Islamists came to power. Operation Sledgehammer ousted those leaders friendly to Israel.

The Turkish flotilla to Gaza, especially the one on which the violence happened, was planned by the Islamist Turkish government and used as an excuse to further Turkey from Israel, so that Islamist Turkey (Sunnis, but non-Arabs) could get back in the good graces of the other Islamist governments, which it had not been since the Kemalist government was in charge.

The flotilla was there solely to provoke. The Turks on the Mavi Marmara had weapons and provoked a battle with the Israelis. The Turks on that ship were singing and chanting death songs all the way there. it was entirely a set up to make the turks look like heroes and further their anti-Israeli status with the Arabs and open up their markets to greater slices of the Islamic world. Turkey would also like to reclaim its former status as leader of the entire Islamic world as it had been with the Ottoman Empire.

Here's some more about the Kemalist secular government that Turkey is disastrously overthrown from Jihad Watch.

More Turkish generals jailed over 1997 anti-Islamic supremacist coup

Turkey's military has long been the guardians of Kemalist secularism. Now the Islamic supremacist Erdogan regime is completing its re-Islamization of Turkey, and arresting those who were Kemalism's guardians. These generals are being jailed now for what in past decades they and their predecessors were hailed for doing.

An update on this story. "More Turkish generals detained over 1997 coup," from Reuters, February 28:

ANKARA (Reuters) - The former commander of Turkey's land forces has been jailed pending trial in a widening investigation of the toppling of Turkey's first Islamist-led government in 1997, state media said on Thursday.

General Erdal Ceylanoglu, who is believed to have ordered tanks onto the streets outside the capital ahead of the military intervention 16 years ago, joined dozens already remanded in custody ahead of the court case.

The inquiry into the ousting of former prime minister Necmettin Erbakan is part of a wider extensive judicial investigation into the once-supreme Turkish military, whose power has been sharply curbed over the past decade.

In power since 2002, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan's Justice and Development Party, AKP, which itself has Islamist roots, has made curbing the military's political influence one of its main missions, and state prosecutors have pursued officers suspected of conspiring against current and former governments.

Political reforms in 2010 to remove the immunity of old coup leaders have given prosecutors room to delve deeper into Turkey's history. The sight of police seizing grey-haired former generals, unthinkable a decade ago, has become a familiar one in Turkey in recent years.

Erbakan, who died of heart failure aged 85 in 2011, pioneered Islamist politics in Turkey, a largely Muslim country with a secular state order, and paved the way for the subsequent success of Erdogan's AKP.

The investigation into the events of 1997, dubbed the "post-modern coup" for its bloodless nature in contrast to three outright coups in 1960, 1971 and 1980, has special significance for Erdogan who was a member of Erbakan's party.

Also detained overnight was retired major general Yucel Ozsir. Their detention comes only two weeks after the jailing of four other retired generals in connection with the coup.

Turkey's state media Anatolian said the two generals were remanded in custody late on Wednesday after being summoned to an Ankara court along with two other retired generals and a serving colonel who were later conditionally released from custody.

The two generals were taken to a maximum security prison in Sincan, a town outside Ankara where Ceylanoglu is charged with commanding tanks onto the streets during the upheaval in 1997.

While Erdogan has promoted the trials as part of the process of ending the generals' political power, he has more recently called for the investigations to be wrapped up more quickly and has hit out at the lengthy pre-trial detentions of hundreds of officers on conspiracy charges.

More than 300 military officers were sentenced to jail in September for plotting to overthrow Erdogan in 2003. Nearly 300 other people - including politicians, academics, journalists and retired army officers - are on trial on charges of orchestrating political violence.

Gary L (138)
Sunday March 3, 2013, 10:08 am
bob and you believe their propaganda seek help you are misguided so who had the guns certainly not those on the flotiila but Isreali murderers

Helen P (39)
Tuesday March 5, 2013, 1:07 am
Methiinks there's more than here appears in the lack of which revealed I shall not speak and yet will pray for America and Israel while forgeting not the enemy.
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