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Boy Scouts of America Proposes Dropping Ban on Gay Kids--But Not Gay Adults


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Cal
- 367 days ago - motherjones.com
The Boy Scouts of America announced that it intends to end its ban on gay members, as long as its board approves the change. The organization would still, however, prohibit gay adults from serving as troop leaders or volunteers.



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Daniel Partlow (189)
Saturday April 20, 2013, 8:39 am
This seems like a good compromise, but it shouldn't really matter if the adults are gay or not so long as they are not pedaphiles!
 

Kit B. (277)
Saturday April 20, 2013, 8:53 am

Doesn't all of this go back to once dearly held belief that all gay men must also be pedophiles? Stupid policy gets stupid results.
 

lee e. (114)
Saturday April 20, 2013, 10:15 am
Kit - has it right! There is no excuse to bar any for their sexual identity, there are in all likelihood more pedophiles that are straight! This organization seems to have a deeply rooted homophobia to contend with, and I wouldn't want my children associated with it until they become less "radical" and less biased!
 

Winn Adams (178)
Saturday April 20, 2013, 10:39 am
Well, they Boy Scouts of America are half right. I don't agree with them banning gay adults. They are making a huge mistake in doing this.
 

Elizabeth Pugliese (8)
Saturday April 20, 2013, 11:33 am
I am good with this. I don't think the boys need to know the sexual orientation of their leaders -- gay or straight. Just lead and leave your personal love life out of it.
 

Carol D. (98)
Saturday April 20, 2013, 3:41 pm
Does not make sense but then half the laws people make never do
 

John B. (215)
Saturday April 20, 2013, 4:55 pm
Thanks Cal for the link to the article by Kate Sheppard. The BSA just can't seem to get it right. Kit is right on target. Read and noted.
 

Jason S. (57)
Saturday April 20, 2013, 9:01 pm
good posting, thanks
 

Sandra Patterson (60)
Saturday April 20, 2013, 11:14 pm
noted,thank you
 

Sara V. (0)
Saturday April 20, 2013, 11:49 pm
Boy Scouts of America is a private organization - they can have whatever rules they want. If you want different rules, you can form your own organization. No one is being forced to participate.

Think of the organizations you belong to - how would you like it if nonmembers forced you to change what you were doing? Boycott them if you don't like their policies. When organizations do not keep up with social changes, they die out.
 

Glenn Byrnes (194)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 12:13 am
Well, half a loaf is better than none.
 

Lynn D. (0)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 1:50 am
Noted, thanks for posting for us!
 

Syd H. (48)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 4:16 am
I hate to tell them this, but children grow up into... ADULTS!

And Sara V, if it were so simple that it is a private organization... but it uses public schools to have the meetings and recruits by having the literature handed out via the teachers to the children. That is essentially making it sanctioned & promoted by the governments; and then there are the many companies who support them via donations (often deducted from paychecks of the workers) such as United Way among many more.

There was one mother who took the Boy Scouts to task because they insist the boys also pledge to "God" and her child received horrendous death threats, via post, email, phone, in person, from so-called "God-Fearing Hetero-Sexual" Adults who felt it was their obligations to force him to believe (or completely take him out of this world).
 

Aaron Bouchard (110)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 8:18 am
Noted thanks
 

Kit B. (277)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 10:38 am

The BSA is not a private organization it is under the massive umbrella of the United Way Fund and all decisions must be approved by the United Way.

My son was in BSA, he became an Eagle Scout and though most of the Scout Masters were married men with children, there were a few boys that might have been gay, who knows or cares. Two of the Scout Masters were gay, even when I learned this, I had to consider first does this affect his ability to be a Scout Master, the answer was conclusively no. This is just one more group to become the focus of hate based entirely on emotion and not the facts of who these men are.
 

Esther S. (45)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 1:23 pm
It is not about all gay men being pedophiles. All straight men aren't pedophiles either but they would not want a straight man running a Girl Scout troop and taking the girls on camping trips etc. They just don't want to take the chance.
 

tiffany t. (148)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 2:42 pm
I don't agree, sexual identity shouldn't keep someone from helping others!
 

Gerry W. (0)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 3:05 pm
When will this world wake up, it is still full of uninformed stupid leaders.
 

M D (0)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 3:36 pm
Stupid people eveywhere.
 

Jo S. (457)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 3:49 pm
Another oxymoron!
Thanks Cal, noted signed & shared.
 

Birgit W. (135)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 4:06 pm
Noted
 

Ray M. (0)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 5:23 pm
If the truth were known, there are plenty of adults alive and well in the scouts and no doubt from the very beginning.
 

Colleen L. (2)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 9:33 pm
They need to come to their senses. The battle has been going on for much too long. Thanks Cal
 

jo M. (3)
Sunday April 21, 2013, 10:40 pm
It sounds like a good compromise. The BSA has every right to run the organization as they see fit and stay true to their values.
 

paul m. (93)
Monday April 22, 2013, 5:04 am

Noted..
 

Carol H. (229)
Monday April 22, 2013, 5:49 am
shaking my head!!!
 

Birgit W. (135)
Monday April 22, 2013, 1:13 pm
Noted
 

Sue Clayton (8)
Monday April 22, 2013, 10:12 pm
I've noticed over the years, that MANY heterasexual people seem to connect the words, HOMOSEXUAL and PEADOPHILE. I'd like to know why this is. Research has PROVEN that Paedophilia is MUCH more prominent in HETERASEXUAL people. Whether the leaders are gay or straight, men or women, they should all have a background check to make sure they're safe to work with children and they should be given a "Working With Children" photo I.D. card!
 

Esther Z. (101)
Monday April 22, 2013, 10:15 pm
So I guess gay kids never grow up to be gay adults? It's absurd!!!!!
 

Patricia H. (470)
Tuesday April 23, 2013, 12:41 am
noted
 

Robyn Brice (4)
Tuesday April 23, 2013, 5:59 am
After reading some of the homophobic comments on Mother Jones, I had to comment.
My daughter is a lesbian and she is in a very happy and committed relationship with a lovely woman.
They are raising a boy and a girl and they are a wonderful family unit.
Some of their friends are gay and one is a transgender woman. All these people are functional human beings, not the sex crazed child predators that some of these idiots seem here seem to believe.
Gays are no more harmful to children than straights and some you need to get your heads out of your arses and have a look around. Or maybe listen to the wonderful speech given by a New Zealand politician when they passed the marriage equality bill.
In short, all you homophobes needs to grow up.
This is the comment I wanted to post on Mother Jones but I was not able to. If you read some of the comments there, they will turn your stomach. It seems that homophobia is alive and well.
 

John M. (0)
Wednesday May 1, 2013, 12:59 pm
Personally, I oppose the new proposal that the Boy Scouts of America should revoke the longstanding policy on homosexuality. An organization that teaches character, courage, and conviction shouldn't be exploited as a laboratory for sexualized political correctness. For decades, the BSA has kept the interest of the boys it serves as the focus of all its actions. No matter what, the Boy Scouts of America could be counted upon to do the right thing and not yield to any social or corporate pressure, and has thus far stood strong.

Parents should be able to entrust their sons to the organization with the confidence that they will not be exposed to inappropriate sexual topics such as homosexuality. The BSA should retain the current long-held and time-tested policy regarding homosexual leadership and membership.
 
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