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TAKE ACTION NOW! Condemn the Four Democratic Senators Too Cowardly to Allow a Vote on Background Checks


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Cal
- 522 days ago - act.credoaction.com
Because of 45 senators, including four Democrats, the American people won't get an up-or-down vote on even the most modest part of the president's gun regulation agenda.



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Judy C. (107)
Friday April 26, 2013, 5:02 am
Signed. Thanks Cal.
 

John S. (304)
Friday April 26, 2013, 5:08 am
I thought that what elections are for.
 

. (0)
Friday April 26, 2013, 7:43 am
Signed and Noted.
 

Diane O. (148)
Friday April 26, 2013, 2:14 pm
Looks like the republicans will pick up four more democrats in 2014. Works for me!
 

Carol D. (109)
Friday April 26, 2013, 3:31 pm
noted thanks
 

Lisa sick Windsor (154)
Friday April 26, 2013, 3:32 pm
Done!
 

Sandra Patterson (60)
Friday April 26, 2013, 5:11 pm
signed and noted,ty
 

Arielle S. (317)
Friday April 26, 2013, 5:31 pm
Every party has its pooper...
 

Winn Adams (192)
Friday April 26, 2013, 5:34 pm
Signed
 

Jason R. (60)
Friday April 26, 2013, 5:36 pm
No one gets a free pass in our party!
 

Scott haakon (4)
Friday April 26, 2013, 5:40 pm
Good a bad but emotional bill was defeated. now we can get on to important concerns like the tax code paying off the debt and ending homelessness.
 

Kristine H. (75)
Friday April 26, 2013, 5:59 pm
Signed and noted. Thank you Cal.
 

Bryna Pizzo (139)
Friday April 26, 2013, 7:34 pm
Thank you! (S, N, P, T)
 

Jason S. (57)
Friday April 26, 2013, 8:24 pm
Signed, thanks
 

Lynn Squance (232)
Friday April 26, 2013, 8:31 pm
Signed

This is partly what allows Canadians to obtain guns and smuggle them across the border. Ticks me off!
 

Debbie G. (314)
Friday April 26, 2013, 8:44 pm
S&N Shame of these congressmen.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday April 26, 2013, 8:51 pm
Signed Cheers
 

Heidi Aubrey (16)
Friday April 26, 2013, 11:19 pm
Happy to sign.
 

Beverly M. (84)
Friday April 26, 2013, 11:30 pm
Noted and signed ~ thank you Cal!
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (275)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 12:14 am
Signed Cal Thanks
 

Arild Warud (166)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 3:25 am
Signed,TY Cal.
 

John Gregoire (255)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 5:14 am
The ONLY way to stop this abuse is to not re-elect them. In the end it is the constituents who are at fault. That's us folks. Kick 'em all out!
 

Arwen Woods (207)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 5:18 am
Signed, noted and shared. Thanks Cal.x
 

Diane O. (148)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 5:31 am
typo up there: "looks like the republicans will pick up four more seats. Works for me."

As the liberals are unhappy with some of their congressmen and women the republicans have a few they would like to retire as well.

This is why our vote is powerful in 2014. In 2010, it changed congress and I believe that one act created the gridlock to stop the outrageous spending by the democrats. Powerful.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 8:45 am
Signed and noted. Our senators should not be so cowardly.
 

David King (3159)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 10:07 am
Actually the Progressives will be picking up more seats... Not Repugs!
 

David King (3159)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 10:29 am
Gabrielle Giffords, the former Arizona congresswoman who was shot in the head while meeting with constituents on Jan. 8, 2011, has become a leading advocate for Americans who support tighter restrictions on guns.

More than two years later, the Senate moved to consider an amendment that would have expanded background checks. But the amendment failed to win the necessary 60 votes to proceed to a final vote.

The day after the vote, Giffords wrote an op-ed for the New York Times decrying that vote.

In her op-ed, Giffords wrote, "Some of the senators who voted against the background-check amendments have met with grieving parents whose children were murdered at Sandy Hook, in Newtown. Some of the senators who voted no have also looked into my eyes as I talked about my experience being shot in the head at point-blank range in suburban Tucson two years ago, and expressed sympathy for the 18 other people shot besides me, 6 of whom died. These senators have heard from their constituents — who polls show overwhelmingly favored expanding background checks. And still these senators decided to do nothing. Shame on them."

Under current law, background checks are required in sales made by federally licensed gun dealers, but not for gun sales by private sellers. President Barack Obama wants to require criminal background checks for all gun sales. The National Rifle Association, which opposes universal background checks, argues that an expansion would fail to deter criminals.

Here, we will check Giffords’ claim that polls show that Americans "overwhelmingly" support "expanding background checks."

To do this, we will look at national survey data from media and academic polls taken in the month prior to Giffords’ column. Here’s a rundown of all such polls we could find that addressed an expansion of background checks:

• Washington Post-ABC News poll, April 11-14, 2013: "Would you support or oppose a law requiring background checks on people buying guns at gun shows or online?" Support: 86 percent. Oppose: 13 percent.

• CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll, April 5-7, 2013: "Some proposals would require a background check on anyone attempting to purchase a gun in order to determine whether the prospective buyer has been convicted of a felony or has a mental health problem. Please tell me whether you would favor or oppose a background check for a prospective gun buyer under each of the following circumstances. ... If the buyer is trying to purchase a gun at a gun show." Favor: 83 percent. Oppose: 17 percent.

"If the buyer is trying to purchase a gun from another person who is not a gun dealer but owns one or more guns and wants to sell one of them." Favor: 70 percent. Oppose: 29 percent.

"If the buyer is purchasing a gun from a family member or receiving it as a gift." Favor: 54 percent. Oppose: 45 percent.

"Please tell me whether you would favor or oppose a background check for anyone who wants to buy ammunition for a gun." Favor: 55 percent. Oppose: 44 percent.

• Quinnipiac University poll, March 26-April 1, 2013. "Do you support or oppose requiring background checks for all gun buyers?" Support: 91 percent. Oppose: 8 percent.

• CBS News poll, March 20-24, 2013. "Would you favor or oppose background checks on all potential gun buyers?" Favor: 90 percent. Oppose: 8 percent.

Giffords’ claim is well-founded, in part because it’s not overly specific: In four polls over the prior month, between 83 percent and 91 percent of respondents said they would favor an expansion of the current background check regime. We think any reasonable person would conclude that those percentages qualify as "overwhelming."

Giffords would have had more trouble finding support for her claim had she either set a numerical threshold or had she been more specific about the kind of background checks Americans are comfortable with.

For instance, when Obama spoke shortly after the amendment’s failure in the Senate, he cited 90 percent support

Meanwhile, the results of the CNN poll suggest that Americans do not support all possible expansions of background checks to the same extent. Checks at gun shows found 83 percent support, but private sales between a willing seller and a willing buyer garnered 70 percent backing, while checks for transfers to family members or for the purchase of ammunition only reached the mid 50-percent range.

Our ruling

In her op-ed, Giffords said polls show that Americans "overwhelmingly" support "expanding background checks." Four independent polls taken in the previous month showed that some sort of expansion of background checks earned the support of between 83 percent and 91 percent of respondents, a level of backing we think qualifies as "overwhelming." We rate her statement True.

story from politifact...
 

David King (3159)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 10:31 am
When the Senate and Congress that we hire (and pay) refuses to do our bidding over that of the NRA... Then we have reached the bottom!

Until we have campaign finance reform...
WE WILL NEVER HAVE SANITY HAPPEN IN GOVERNMENT!

Especially for the big oil companies, The NRA, the American war machine companies, Wall Street, and many companies in the health industry. We continue to see legislation that makes no "common-sense" for the American people, our economy, our environment, our safety, our future, etc...
BUT not only does this legislation get drawn up by the hired lackeys (ALEC or the NRA) for these companies, BUT IT GETS PASSED (even in a Democratic controlled senate).

Democrats (I believe) are less likely to KILL the golden goose than Republicans, but they are still responsible for giving these companies more power, more money, more permission to destroy our Earth,and more permission to poison ALL it's inhabitants to make more profit.

This is a difficult problem to solve, BUT WE HAVE TO!

It really is about our survival, and not just about perpetuating the American way of life...

 

David King (3159)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 10:31 am
PBS Newshour: Joining the political threats was the liberal Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which promised it would be "holding accountable Democrats who voted against their constituents by running (newspaper) ads in their states, featuring some of the 23,000 gun owners who have joined our campaign for common sense gun reform."

Associated Press: Begich, Pryor and Baucus are all seeking re-election next year. In an indication of the intensity of the feelings on the issue, the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, a liberal group, swiftly announced it would run ads contrasting their votes with polls showing overwhelming popular support for gun curbs.

THIS IS NOT OVER! We WILL get this Bill passed even if it means Harry Ried must be publically shamed!!!

Cut and paste the link to sign the petition:
http://www.democratsenators.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=wDtmKSjU8PUHsO%2BOvFHEwivNMYpoAMIw


 

David King (3159)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 10:55 am
The gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the proposed legislation, and yesterday they were able to defeat it.

But we are not backing down. Round one just ended. Round two starts now.

We're collecting 200,000 signatures demanding action on background checks -- and one of them is yours. Share this link with others, and ask them to add their name now:

http://my.democrats.org/Round-Two

Cut and paste the link to sign the petition:

http://my.democrats.org/page/m/4052bedf/518df7e/23284067/74914a85/1826040878/VEsC/

 

David King (3159)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 10:57 am
This is REALLY about an even bigger problem than "Gun Control"!!!

Until we have campaign finance reform...
WE WILL NEVER HAVE SANITY HAPPEN IN GOVERNMENT!

Especially for the big oil companies, The NRA, the American war machine companies, Wall Street, and many companies in the health industry. We continue to see legislation that makes no "common-sense" for the American people, our economy, our environment, our safety, our future, etc...

BUT not only does this legislation get drawn up by the hired lackeys (ALEC or the NRA) for these companies, BUT IT GETS PASSED (even in a Democratic controlled senate).

Democrats (I believe) are less likely to KILL the golden goose than Republicans, but they are still responsible for giving these companies more power, more money, more permission to destroy our Earth,and more permission to poison ALL it's inhabitants to make more profit.

This is a difficult problem to solve, BUT WE HAVE TO!

It really is about our survival, and not just about perpetuating the American way of life...


 

David King (3159)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 10:58 am
I hope this helps!!!

For too long, America has watched helplessly as the the Senate became the place where good bills go to die. The ridiculous, outdated, undemocratic filibuster means that majority rule is turned on its head, and the stubbornness of 41 senators is enough to block the hard work and good will of 59 others. And with the Republican minority using the filibuster at an unprecedented pace, work and progress ground to a halt. Harry Reid tried a "handshake agreement" deal with Senate Republicans earlier this term, and it has been a colossal failure. Harry Reid can change this rule, and he does not need 60 votes to do it. Republicans will howl and complain, but tough. It's time -- past time -- to restore basic democracy to the Senate. And besides, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that if the Republicans get back the majority, they won't hesitate to end it themselves. Send Harry Reid a message. Tell him to fix the filibuster.

CUT AND PASTE THE LINK TO SIGN THE PETITION: http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=RQlV1UgxvbAmNbk9AnNZFOrQCbivhqEO


 

Mary T. (302)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 11:37 am
Signed & Noted, proud that the two California senator voted for the background checks
 

Robert O. (12)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 11:45 am
They should be ashamed of themselves. Gladly signed. Thanks Cal.
 

James Maynard (68)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 12:35 pm
I have no representation in the current "Congress."
 

Joanne Dixon (38)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 12:47 pm
Blue Dog Baucus is retiring and will likely be replaced by a real Democrat. Heitkamp concerns me mainly because the alternatives are so awful. I don't know that much about the other two. I know that this is a big statement to make in this post, but I make it anyway: I agree with David K
 

Kevin Lewis (1)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 1:43 pm
Signed & Noted
I don't understand we voted for representatives that are supposed to vote for us but it seems that once they get voted into Congress there more of afraid of not being reelected than they are voting for the right thing. There is more than two thirds of the people that want some kind of gun control.
 

Robert Tomlinson (65)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 1:53 pm
Signed and Noted!
Talk about elected officials being deaf to the wishes of the people!!!
 

Diane O. (148)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 1:54 pm
Blue Dog Baucus could easily be replaced by a republican as well. How soon the liberals have forgotten about the tsunami election in November 2010 when the American people voted and unseated quite a few spending democrats. The voters weren't happy and they did something about it.

 

Birgit W. (145)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 1:59 pm
Don't have a zip code, thank you.
 

Diane O. (148)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 2:00 pm
Robert, these democrats ARE listening to the people and they have distanced themselves from President Obama. Rational thinking people know and understand that criminals will NEVER apply for gun ownership much less a background check. Only the "good" guys will do that so it translates into a total waste of time and money.

Criminals can buy a gun on a street corner. Check out Chicago and Washington DC who have strict gun laws. Think it works? Now check out the crime rate in these two cities.

Obama is like a young lad playing president. So far he isn't getting his way on anything and there's a reason for that. You would think a Harvard Law graduate would have an ounce of common sense and at least check the statistics across our country. If he took the time to do that he would KNOW that his own city, Chicago, HAS strict gun laws and the highest crime rate.

Americans are a great deal smarter than Obama thinks. Americans are doing their own research.
 

Lois Jordan (56)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 2:52 pm
Very gladly signed & noted. Many thanks, Cal!
Check out Australia---their gun deaths are practically in single digits since they outlawed guns entirely in the late 90's after the people got completely fed up. The Daily Show had a really great interview where John Oliver went to Australia and interviewed the former prime minister, as well as other politicians and "regular" citizens. Even those who had protested against the removal of guns are happy that they are gone. Check out Great Britain as well.

Great comments by David K.....have signed all petitions that come my way and will continue to---because if I don't do all I can to stop this horrible violence against innocents, I will feel complicit in the deaths resulting from guns.
 

Vicky P. (464)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 3:27 pm
noted and signed
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 3:27 pm
done
 

Audrey L. (37)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 4:24 pm
Gladly signed Cal. Excellent comments David.
 

. (1)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 4:24 pm
signed
 

Michael Kirkby (85)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 4:29 pm
Signed & posted
 

Louise D. (38)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 4:54 pm
The problem is that the NRA does pull the strings, the adverts they made against gun control were personal attacks against President Obama. The NRA also has a long list of people and organizations who have ever lent support to anti-gun initiatives. With luminary freedom haters such as the American Medical Association, PBS, and Hallmark, and notorious anti-gun celebrities like Sylvester Stallone, it's probably easier to say who is not on the list. Richard Nixon at least tried to keep his enemy list secret. The main problem is that with such a batshit crazy organization such as the NRA which is not well known for teaching their members how to properly debate (shout at) increased gun control proponents, and as a result, most members resort to clichès such as "guns don't kill people, people kill people," "a bad guy with a gun can only be stopped by a good guy with a gun," and other ineffective/heartless sound bites. They certainly do have quite enough money to buy a few tame senators too, it might be an idea to see if they have been getting any donations.
 

Debbie House (5)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 6:28 pm
They vote the way they want not for the people they represent.
 

Christine Stewart (131)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 9:01 pm
Signed.
 

Charlie Rush (55)
Saturday April 27, 2013, 10:51 pm
To Diane O.: You are so funny.
I anxiously await your comments, because humor is good for the soul.
One has to believe that you couldn't possibly believe all of the humorous responses you make, because your intelligence must tell you otherwise.
Please, never go away!

I have a distinct feeling that cowardice was not at the heart of their vote.
It rings more of material wealth, to me, more aptly called KICK BACKS, or should we say, contributions to future campaigns.

I am here to say, and will not take it back, that I truly believe, this is all going to blow up their faces, in not too long a time. The exact _time_ is the only thing that is not predictable, but, the writing is on the wall.

Statistics around the world are against us, and, as the mortality rate steadily increases, the pressure will become more considerable. This is not about the Constitution, as everyone is aware; it is about lunatics who want what they want, when they want it.
 

Anna Undebeck (205)
Sunday April 28, 2013, 2:54 am
Signed! Thank you.
 

Diane O. (148)
Sunday April 28, 2013, 9:09 am
Charlene, very happy you read my comments.

"it is about lunatics who want what they want, when they want."

Now, THAT was funny! Are you referring to the lunatics who are anti gun control? Or, are you referring to the lunatics who want to rob, kill and perhaps mutilate you and your family?

Statistics vary on this topic but one fact everyone agrees with is that those with criminal intentions will NOT be the ones registering to buy a gun and subjecting themselves to a background check they know they will fail. That's a fact. It's far too easy to go around the corner and lay out $100 and buy a stolen gun. That's much easier for them and anyone anywhere who suggests that by requiring responsible Americans, like us, to register and go through a background check will stop the soaring crime in our cities, especially Chicago and Washington DC who have very strict gun laws, is ludicrous. The NRA knows this and so does Obama. For Obama, this is purely a political stance and since nothing else he has tried to get through has received the full support of his own democrats I tend to see him in desperation mode. He's like a young lad in puberty running from one bill to another never fully getting behind any of them. That suggests to me that he is lazy and incompetent.

The four democrats this thread refers to said "no" for several reasons. Perhaps the first reason is because they believe what I have stated here that putting responsible Americans through the background check will never, not in any way, stop a criminal from buying a weapon on the streets. And possibly the second reason is because they want to be re elected in 2014. Sometimes even democrats will not go down with a sinking ship. Not even for Obama.
 

Diane L. (110)
Sunday April 28, 2013, 11:37 pm
Gladly signed, Cal.

So, can you explain, Charlene (and Diane O) just why anyone who is in favor of gun control must be a "lunatic"? I'm a bit confused about why wanting tighter regulations, not to mention enforcing STRICTLY, those we already have, must label anyone as a "lunatic"?
 

Shirley B. (5)
Monday April 29, 2013, 9:12 am
N&SX2. TY
 

Carol H. (229)
Wednesday May 1, 2013, 1:01 pm
signed and noted
 

Susanne R. (249)
Thursday May 2, 2013, 11:51 pm
A commenter stated: "Americans are a great deal smarter than Obama thinks." Unless the President actually confides in her, I can't imagine how she could know this to be fact. She also stated: "Americans are doing their own research." That's true. That's why 91% of them support support stricter background checks and large percentages of them support other forms of gun control. Consider this information from Gallup Politics:

"New Gallup polling testing public support for nine of Obama's specific proposals for preventing gun violence -- without invoking Obama's name in the question -- shows a majority of Americans backing all of them, ranging from 54% support for banning high-capacity magazines to 91% for requiring criminal background checks for all gun purchases. This can be contrasted with Gallup's earlier finding that 53% of Americans want to see Congress pass Obama's anti-gun violence package as a whole -- a question explicitly associating the plan with the president.

If Congress is looking to public opinion for what to pass first, the poll indicates background checks, stiffer penalties on straw purchasers, bans on armor-piercing bullets, and more funding for police, school security, and mental health programs would face little public resistance. On the other hand, other gun control measures, such as bans on so-called assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, might not only be difficult to get through Congress, but hard to sell to Republicans and independents. At the very least, Congress needs to make sure that any action taken on guns is seen as supplemental to meaningful school security and mental health policy reforms, not a substitute for it."

I find it particularly troubling that more people admit to wanting better gun control legislation when the surveys don't associate the legislation with President Obama.

Gladly signed and noted! And please take a moment to reflect upon the two-year old girl from Kentucky who was accidentally shot and killed a few days ago by her five-year old brother, who was using his own gun. Children own guns! Gun manufacturers design and sell guns specifically for children! Parents actually buy them! Talk about insanity...
 

Diane L. (110)
Friday May 3, 2013, 1:11 am
A few days ago, two members commented that those of us who favor tighter gun controls and background checks are "lunatics". When I asked why those who disagree with THEM must be lunatics, no response. Hmmm????????

I'm certainly not trying to "stir-the-pot", but just curious why it is that the advocates for having guns and those who are so afraid of having their 2nd Amendment rights revoked that they resort to fear-mongering and name-calling disappear when they're asked such a simple question............WHY they become so agitated when they are put on the spot? Maybe they're out re-loading?
 

Allan Yorkowitz (453)
Saturday April 5, 2014, 1:59 pm
Remember when the Vice President was in charge of forming a committee on gun control? How pathetic .
 
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