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OP-ED: Should President Obama Fire Eric Holder?


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: news, obama, government, politics, ethics, usa )

Cal
- 501 days ago - motherjones.com
I suspect that Obama heartily approves of what the Justice Department did in the AP leak investigation. It's probably a fantasy to believe that either Holder or DOJ were off the reservation here.



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Nyack Clancy (439)
Thursday May 16, 2013, 2:47 pm
" provide aid and comfort to the enemy?"

Not anymore than Regan provided weapons to Iran and Afganistan

or "Reagan/Bush administrations permitted—and frequently encouraged—the flow of money, agricultural credits, dual-use technology, chemicals, and weapons to Iraq."

But? You know- they are white guys, so those sort of things don't matter.
 

Marlene Dinkins (233)
Thursday May 16, 2013, 3:19 pm
noted .thanks for this article Cal!!!!!ciao
 

lee e. (114)
Thursday May 16, 2013, 3:45 pm
This is the most concerning of the "scandals" - because I believe this is the "scandal" - I do believe that Holder should go - sooner the better - I do believe that this is a problem with the administration - why is Assange a major "problem", and why was Manning tortured and why hasn't he been pardoned - I think this is the weakest link in this administration - it only adds fuel to the fact that Gantanamo is still in action to our shame and that the previous administration hasn't been brought to justice -- I believe Obama is deliberately as guilty in abetting the previous administration's inexcusable activities, and continuing assault on the 1st amendments rights of our press -- it causes me distress to admit it - as I supported this president - not whole-heartedly - I think we need more and purer parties to have an option for a cleaner government!
 

Milkah Savage (277)
Thursday May 16, 2013, 6:33 pm
I really shouldn't comment...but let me just say "Watergate". And Nyack you hit the nail on the head.
 

Carol H. (229)
Friday May 17, 2013, 5:00 am
well said Nyack!!! thanks Cal, noted
 

Tara Jane Hampton (18)
Friday May 17, 2013, 8:44 am
It's time for Holder to go!
 

Jason R. (60)
Friday May 17, 2013, 9:01 am
Holder said that a CIA operation was exposed. I'm biased to the MIC to a point....Pretending that modern journalists have integrity is one thing...yes & no.
 

Carol D. (109)
Friday May 17, 2013, 9:14 am
dont know enough about it to comment

noted
 

Gloria picchetti (291)
Friday May 17, 2013, 9:39 am
No.
 

John S. (304)
Friday May 17, 2013, 10:31 am
Maybe the world would be a better place if we all high high standards, and we use the same standards to judge everone? The reason he should go is that President Obama has about a year left before he is a lame duck. He can spend that time on what has to be accomplish, or he can defend scandals. Personally, I would like for him to stay so that the president doesn't accomplish amymore.
 

AwayNoMail Plze S. (500)
Friday May 17, 2013, 10:57 am
Noted & shared.
Thanks for the article Cal.
 

Jason R. (60)
Friday May 17, 2013, 11:25 am
I thought about it and looked a few things. My answer, YES. I do not like him. He said, maybe the people ought to be "brainwashed" into not liking guns.

Brainwashing has become americas main undoing of our rights and democracy. Any one that uses that word in support makes me rethink.

 

Yvonne White (232)
Friday May 17, 2013, 11:52 am
Bu$h League hold-overs spread Bu$h League disease..Obama is NOT helping Democrats now or in future elections by distancing them from their Base of Liberal/Progressive Ideals!
 

Winn Adams (192)
Friday May 17, 2013, 12:15 pm
Nyack hit the nail on the head . . . . .
 

Noni Pavlik (0)
Friday May 17, 2013, 12:41 pm
Really?? Nyack hit the nail on the head!! What's with you this is not..repeat not a race issue. This is an American issue.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday May 17, 2013, 1:07 pm
Don't worry,John, Obama won't accomplish anymore, he hasn't accomplished anyrhing yet .
 

Fred Krohn (34)
Friday May 17, 2013, 1:14 pm
Toss Holder over the border, let Mexico deal with the exiled scumbag. For that matter, toss the entire liberal extreme including most of the Dummycrat party over the fnce and tell them they're exiled for life as we load the Whitehouse incinerator with all copies of Obamacare available after repealing the damn thing, along with all gun control 'laws'.
 

Nyack Clancy (439)
Friday May 17, 2013, 1:21 pm
Thanks for expressing your opinion, Fred- and there you have it

"For that matter, toss the entire liberal extreme including most of the Dummycrat party over the fnce "- whether they are citizens or NOT, right Fred?

I hope Obama breaks the Constitutional law and DRONES YOUR ASS as Paul Rand watches.
 

James Maynard (68)
Friday May 17, 2013, 2:06 pm
To answer the headline - "No."
 

janet f. (28)
Friday May 17, 2013, 2:08 pm
Yes.
 

John Coleman (18)
Friday May 17, 2013, 2:15 pm
Obamabots, Bush has been gone for four years and the only "scandals" were the two pseudo "scandals" of the phony Plame affair and the more phoney US attorney firings. Of course we hear the "progressive" lies about "WMD lies" which ignores the fact that both Iraq and Afghanistan actions were approved by a Dem controlled Senate. This corrupt administration is rife with scandals and the crook heading the DoJ has been part of several be it Fast and Furious, some very questionable call on voting right cases, and now the wiretap case that may be not as security issue as is being spun. Of course he is one of many corrupt Cabinet heads that have big problems including Treasury, State, HHS, Homeland Insecurity Labor, and soon likely Defense, the CIA, and EPA, Holder also needs to answer on who in the FBI dropped the ball on both tte Boston bombing case and Benghazi. This is the most corrupt administration EVER which says a lot with LBJ, JFK, WWW, Nixon, and FDR. The rot comes from the top!!!!
 

Robert K. (31)
Friday May 17, 2013, 4:05 pm
Holder should never have been named in the first place. Nobody from Wall Street should ever be allowed in government.

Despite his crappy cheating scandal, John Edwards would have been an ideal AG because his entire career was one of sticking up for the little guy and making the corrupt corporstions pay through the nose. Of course, nobody who sticks up for the little guy, thus doing the job as it was meant to be done will ever be considered for the position.

Until it becomes a felony punishable by a fine large enough to endanger the continuation of the company gving money to politicians will continue to corrupt the political process.
 

Yvonne White (232)
Friday May 17, 2013, 4:09 pm
Trolls & TeaBaggers & Dumba$$e$..oh my!;) All the "scandals" are "business as usual" since Bu$h the Le$$er's enforcers (Dick & Rummy) manufactured the Imperial Presidency. And the GreedyOnePercenters fiddle with themselves while the world burns..:(
 

Birgit W. (145)
Friday May 17, 2013, 4:58 pm
Noted.
 

John Coleman (18)
Friday May 17, 2013, 6:17 pm
Yvonne: Unlike you on the ultra radical Left (aka "progressives"( I happen to deal with real history and not the alternative universe "history" we get from the likes of King Barack the Worst, Holder, Ayres, Bubba Clinton, and the like and remember Bubba's "mission creep" in Somalia and not so excellent Balkan adventure or Dear Leader Obama's unsanctioned and idiotic war that destabilized Libya leading to more strife in the area, war in Mali, the attack on US personnel in Benghazi, the Algerian raid that also killed US citizens, and the raiding of Libyan military stores of hand held anti aircraft missiles that may well be in terrorist hands, Odd that Holder and our alleged POTUS are so "concerned" about "national security" when they dropped the ball on terror incidents like Benghazi, Boston, and the attempted Time Square bombings among other incidents Need to amend my previous post to add Bubba (Clinton) to the most corrupt POTUS list and he ranks in the top three higher than Nixon by far.
 

Laura H. (889)
Friday May 17, 2013, 6:27 pm
Sorry, but when one uses words like "King", "Bubba", and "Dear Leader", all red meat and code words for the extreme and radical right-what ever else is included in the statement is fluff...like the crap between $arah PAYlin's ears.
 

Nyack Clancy (439)
Friday May 17, 2013, 6:30 pm
Speaking of "providing aid and comfort to the enemy?"

No.. I guess not- more like the FACTS we get from Oliver North, the hero who formulated the plan to sell weapons to Iran, the Republican political commentator and television host for FOX NEWS.

You can count on all of THAT to be accurate "history".
 

Past Member (0)
Friday May 17, 2013, 8:00 pm
LOLing at Nyack! I do hope what you said is satire...I DESPISE FOX "news"....and Repugs, and Oliver North and Iran.
 

Yvonne White (232)
Friday May 17, 2013, 8:01 pm
Reich-wingers do not know what is history - Faux News tells them what is "history" & "explains" it to them.. Facts mean nothing, rabble-rousing is the Only thing they understand. The ones who screamed the loudest about those Foreign places couldn't find them on a map.. 1984-style Newspeak works fairly well for Reich-wing talking points, but Real People aren't buying the bull$hit. It's so adorable though that they think Obama can be Both a Liberal-Socialist & an Imperial Fascist..frankly I don't think he's That flexible.
Never been called a radical progressive before - but it sounds fun!:) Just don't try to take my guns!;)
 

Billie C. (2)
Friday May 17, 2013, 8:25 pm
holder is a criminal and should tried and sent to prison. obama needs to go with him for covering for him.
f&f should have gotten him removed long ago. there is no way you can trust him to investigate anything to do with corruption in this administration.
 

Jason S. (57)
Friday May 17, 2013, 8:47 pm
Good posting, thanks
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday May 18, 2013, 12:25 am
Thanks for sharing.
 

Tene Bane (1)
Wednesday July 17, 2013, 4:07 pm

ban holder from gov jobs, for lieing by saying the right to self defense and standing your ground causes more violence than it prevents, then he said him and his crew should hypocritically stand their ground. holder blames victims for being attacked. holder reportedly had 65counts of tax evasion at the same time he wants to raise taxes on others to pay for his gov funded security while he plays golf. holder's security guards stand their ground very often.



Stand Your Ground= you dont have the duty to retreat. You can stay where you are. standing your ground under threat instead of fleeing.





If someone breaks into your house, or points a gun or weapon at you, you dont have to retreat, run away, or hide if your dont want to. You dont have to back down or obey orders from anyone that is threatening you.




everyone(except criminals who belong in jail) has the right to be on public property, their own private property, and other's private property with the owner's permit, if they want to, no matter if their in danger or not.





robber's want their victims to flee from their property and let the robbers steal it.



intimidators want their victims to be scared. people run away because their scared. crooks dont want their subjects to stand up to them. prey animals get herded by predators.



americans stood their ground against the british, if they didnt, america would most likely be britain. cops and security guards stand their ground all the time.




everyone has the right to disobey wrongful intimidators





holder pretends to connect stand your ground to the zimmerman case, where is his proof zimmerman stood his ground under threat or is guilty? holder wants zimmerman to be guilty to make non gov look bad to use as an excuse to ban guns from non gov.
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obamas not goig to fire him he's the same type of crinimal as obama
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impeach obama for ordering cime, lieing, hypocracy, not representing the majority of its voters or the country, violateing oath of office, not to the best of its ability preserve protect and defend the constitution instead the oposite, not takeing care that laws be faithfully executed, and not doing its job.



obama should owe a refund for all the tax-funded benifits(personal security)it didnt need cuz it could afford to pay for at least some of it itself instead of extravagant golf, vacations, fashion, and exspensive dinners.



about 15% of the country voted in obama, most r low info voters voteing based on lesser of 2 evils admitting they dislike both, or based on looks.



canidates sometimes lie, make false promosies, bate and switch, 2faced, flip flop, and dont mention true wants during campaign then surprize reveal true wants after elected, resulting in voters not getting what they voted for.



canidates become rich partially because they represent or do favors for rich people to get campaign contributions.



richest canidates become primarys because they can afford the most ads, so their most well known and popular w the public, resulting in richest canidates and campaign contributers being represented instead of the people.



gov-benifits are given to companies that contribute to the politician's campaign, or secret pay offs or corosion. resulting in companies buying themself to big to fail to big to jail status, law exemption, tax exemption, subsidies, and bailouts.

youtube: obama explains the fema camps

youtube: the nsa wire tap over reach

watch: obama ignogeration

"protests that arrose because of the outrage over the video"-obama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gJ3Pb888Oo youtube: Barack Obama Lies about Benghazi Libya WITH the Main Stream Media's Help

"you had a video that was realease by somebody who lives here, sort of a shadowy charater, who is extreemly offesnive video directed at mohamad and islam, makeing fun of the prophet mohamad, and so this caused great offense in much of the muslim world. curde and discusting video sparked outrage thru out the muslim world."-obama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpIr-wmfEI0 youtube: Obama During Weeks Following Benghazi Attacks

"...there is an offensive vide or cartoon directed at the phophet mohamed, and this is obviously something that then is used as an excuse by some to carry out inexcusable violent acts, ...we worked to...send a message to these countries."-obama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpnsuu46t3Y youtube: Benghazi Lies

"there's no video that justifys an attack on an embassy"-obama 10:19 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6OzShia0bQ youtube: 10/10/12 Libya timeline showing lie after lie by Obama administration officials

youtube: obama's hypocrisy on mass murder of children

youtube: canidate obama compared to president obama on government survailence - hypocrisy exposed



make or copy/paste a remix video of all the dirt you got on obama then spread it around



sometimes gov employees are forced/cororced to pay union dues, gov stands by and lets it happen (not protecting everyone equally under the law) the union pays campaign contributions(bribe), the politician in return launders the $ and gives them gaurenteed jobs, raises, tax and law exempt status(giveing them a monopoly and supressing competition)

campaign finance reform: anyone running that receives or asks for a private contribution or used private property(including and product/service, pen, paper, computer, internet, phone, microphone, transport, car, bike...)auto disqualified. have a central collection where the collector, donations, and all runing are under 24-7live puiblic video survailence, donations distributed equally to all running, can only be spent on campaign.

fire elected reps who receive or ask for gifts.



put all politicians and gov under 24-7 live public video surveillance.

put in a constitutional amendement that says no elected representivie can be paid with gov $(exsept if there poor they get the same welfare as everyone else), and cant receive gov benifits(includeing security) as long as they can afford it for themself.

require that no gov worker can be paid unless there isnt anyone willing to do the job for free, and no gov worker can be paid more than minium wage unless their isnt anyone willing to do the job for minimum wage.

immediately fire elected representatives who lies, are hypocritical, want to be above the law, or don't represent whoever voted them in.

make potential representatives on live tv promise that they will resign immediately if they ever lie, are hypocritical, want to be above the law, or dont represent the majority of their district.
 
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