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Germany Faces Refugee Crisis as Calls to Accept More Migrants Mount

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Scores of undocumented migrants living in an improvised tent city in the hip Berlin neighborhood of Kreuzberg are protesting Germany's continued failure to provide them with the housing and jobs they need to integrate into mainstream society.

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pam w (139)
Saturday October 19, 2013, 8:14 am
And so goes the E.U.

Tamara H (185)
Saturday October 19, 2013, 9:07 am
Noted, thanks Cal.

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 19, 2013, 10:09 am
This is going to be a growing problem in all the main countries of the EU in the future and i do not think anyone has the answer other than pulling out of the EU So many countries now have problems with unemployment shrinking economies etc and this is how trouble starts Welcome to the EU !


. (0)
Saturday October 19, 2013, 12:20 pm
The demands of these people is what gets me upset. Italy won't take them. but, they demand from Germany.

Mike M (40)
Saturday October 19, 2013, 2:09 pm
If they puled that crap I would pack them up and ship them back

Sheila S (50)
Saturday October 19, 2013, 3:20 pm
Germany has worked hard and long to maintain its economic standing while other EU member governments are faltering. It is very difficult for any country to take in "scores of refugees" at one time, without outside financial support.

mar l ene dinkins (264)
Saturday October 19, 2013, 5:04 pm
noted ty

Aletta Kraan (146)
Saturday October 19, 2013, 5:25 pm
Noted , wish they could all live in peace !!

Winn A (179)
Saturday October 19, 2013, 5:43 pm

Stan B (123)
Saturday October 19, 2013, 5:56 pm
It makes no sense to imagine that Germany and other western countries should be obliged to take in refugees from mainly failed Muslim countries.
They don't usually want to integrate or change their third world customs. They constitute a huge time-bomb which future generations are going to have to face and it won't be easy.

Marie W (67)
Saturday October 19, 2013, 10:41 pm
Why do they think Germany owes them anything?

David W (0)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 12:56 am
Thanks Cal

Marija M (29)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 3:44 am
thank you, Cal

ewoud k (68)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 3:45 am
Maybe Germany has the largest number (in figures) of immigrants of the European countries, but in percentage there are countries that have more immigrants, namely Spain (12% vs 8,7%).

It's the big and recurrent problem of regions with big differences in standard of living that touch. Borders are(relatively) easy to cross, even if the Mediterranean still is a dangerous line to cross, large numbers succeed.

Looking for a better life.... The US was based on this principle....

Easy to judge, far from easy to live if it's you the immigrant.

And btw, we all know where non-accepting of "the other" can lead to....

Thanks for posting Cal!

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 4:56 am
I'm not even sure how to reply to an article that starts: "Scores of undocumented migrants living in an improvised tent city in the hip Berlin neighborhood of Kreuzberg are protesting Germany's continued failure to provide them with the housing and jobs they need to integrate into mainstream society." Undocumented = unplanned. Again, don't confuse Asylum seekers with migrants looking for a better live (maybe they should have protested the government there, probably would be able to claim asylum had they tried.

bob m (32)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 7:18 am

where's the provision and welcome from the paradises of islam...the oily lands of peace and teletubby true love...

Alexandra Rodda (180)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 7:33 am
There are many forces that drive these migrations. Climate change would be one of them and this is likely to become the main driver in the future.

Theodore Shayne (56)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 8:53 am
Humanity is on a rapidly escalating curve to critical mass - too many people and not enough resources. Y'all wonder why I never wanted to bring a child into this world?

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 12:02 pm
Per capita Germany has a significant high number of refuges compared to most other EU states. And if Spain is such a friendly country I'm in deep doubt. They have this enclave area in North Africa, in Morocco. Now the wall is about 6 m high and has lots of sharp Nato wires around. And with statistics from countries around the Mediterranean I'm also in deepest doubt, there are enough samples of significant misuse by state bodies, in order to screw the EU administration.

Joy M (169)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 12:29 pm
Thanks for posting.. noted

Birgit W (160)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 12:39 pm
Germany is just a very small country. Since East and West Germany are combined, and especially since the Deutsch Mark changed to Euros the living conditions of many Germany people have changed dramatically. Germany has a lot of poor German people now.
Plus they are taking in so many refugees from all over the world. Not even talking about all the Italians, and Greek people who want to live now in Germany.
So this is not a very easy situation for Germany to take care of.

Gene J (290)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 12:48 pm
"Scores of undocumented migrants living in an improvised tent city in the hip Berlin neighborhood of Kreuzberg are protesting Germany's continued failure to provide them with the housing and jobs they need to integrate into mainstream society."

But that is precisely the point. Many of these new immigrants are Muslims and they don't want to integrate or assimilate. They want the German people to bend to their demands. This is not a good idea. The Germanic people have a long tradition of being essentially a placid, peaceful group until something happens that sets them off and they rampage throughout Europe until beaten, when everything subsides until the next instance. We are talking thousands of years here, not just since Hitler. Already anti-immigrant groups are growing fast in Germany which has its own economic and political issues. They can't be expected to take in the entire Islamic population of Africa or the middle east, without an ever increasing number of clashes like this one. This is a world issue, not one that can be solved by one nation. And, better, far better, would be solutions in their homelands that could allow them to return and live productive, safe and useful lives there. Jobs can't be created out of thin air for immigrants, that, were it done, is welfare and that as a political tool will cause resentment and more amongst the natural born population. The world needs to address this issue - UN are you listening?

Roger G (154)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 1:28 pm
noted, thanks

Twyla Sparks (208)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 4:14 pm

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 20, 2013, 4:29 pm
This article is missing a critical element. There are various driving forces behind these migrations, including climate change, but that accounts for a very small number of these refugees. War and terror in the North African and Middle East nations is the main driving force. And the cause is greed! The corporate criminals that run this world are driving many of these peoples from their land, so the corporate criminals can steal their resources. And, they get 2 for 1 because this migration disrupts Europe and causes chaos, which leads to further authoritarian measures. This problem is a win-win for the fascists running the show!

Inge B (202)
Monday October 21, 2013, 12:11 am
Have we in the EU / U.S. bombed their countries then we are liable to take care of victims


Robyn Vorsa (4)
Monday October 21, 2013, 12:29 am
It is not just Germany but many other countries that are suffering from the problems of asylum seekers flooding across the borders. As climate change bites and wars increasingly escalate this will only get worse.
Countries cannot take the sheer amount of people pouring in. The financial crisis is still holding economies back, people are still suffering from stagnant economies. Many countries just don't have the resources to deal with this. Plus the added problem of the crime and violence that inevitably go along with this just add to the powder keg.
Soon the disruption will be so severe that it will plunge the world into complete chaos and who will win? The massive corporations, that's who.

Helen Porter (39)
Monday October 21, 2013, 2:40 am
Don't tell us about it.

Our president Obama wants to let all the illegals in and provide welfare checks for them.

Yet, I'll wager he doesn't donate one of his own pennies to his cause.

Glenville J Owen (0)
Monday October 21, 2013, 9:08 am
Thank you for the article Cal. When good replaces evil in the hearts of men then peace will surely come to this world.

bob m (32)
Tuesday October 22, 2013, 12:17 pm

@ Robert O......A huge motivational impetus toward the mass "immigration " is initially soft jihad by millions of military age males driven by winds of the spirit of antichrist toward new fields and old butchering grounds against naive European peoples who believe they must give up their children's futures to infamy lest they "offend " the scary man....these who move in the bravado of fear also bring their breeder females at the expense of their hosts as they hang off the necks of their victims . even as they pretend not to know anything of the terror in store as their lusts inquranos; bids them tomorrow to cut the very heads of those who do protest.... now ... go ahead idiots... put your heads back in the camels ass.

Klaus Peters (14)
Sunday December 22, 2013, 1:06 am
These so called asylum seekers seem to demand a life of luxury in countries like Germany. They don't want to work and complain when their social security cheque doesn't come on time. Germany's EU neighbors do not want them and send them to Germany, easy. This has been going on for decades, oh you lost the war, you take them.
I was 17, I could not get a full time job, because, eastern Europeans flooded Germany after WW2 and demanded accommodation and support. ( Poland received a huge area of Germany, East Prussia, Pomerania, Silesia and more in return so GB could please CCCP and give them East Poland.} There homes were up rooted, so was mine. My parents had split up after the war, bombed out, had no place to stay and I worked my way to Australia. ( eg. Poland was never invited to the victory parade in GB to please the CCCP).
Sure, with the smell of war still in the air, I was a second rate citizen. But I was not alone. During my early years in Australia I was making very unusual friends, My friends were Polish, Yugoslav and I served my apprenticeship with a Hungarian Jewish company. I did go back for a few years and I was accused of leaving Germany when they needed me most. I was sent to SE Asia (Singapore) after more intensive studies and because I spoke fluent English. I was contracted for 2 plus another 3 years. I made many friends within the expatriate European community, British, Germans, Swedes, Austrians, and also Indians and Australians. During that time I married an Indian young lady in Malaysia. Going to Germany several times my wife and I decided to go back to the lucky country, for a lesser job, Australia. There are no regrets after 40 years of our marriage. We own our home and are happy. My main concern are the boat people that loose their money in Indonesia and end up in camps or drown on the way. All done by scrupulous criminals, just like the flood in Germany. I am lucky, I am retired now, thank you Australia, I can retire in peace.

Klaus Peters (14)
Sunday December 22, 2013, 4:54 am
To continue, I meant to say in the end:
I am lucky, I am retired now, thank you Australia. I have retired in peace and my family is happy to be more accepted than I was when I first came here. This is multiculturalism, old wounds heal and we became a hard working force. The new floods of fortune seekers are not of the same kind.of what we saw after WW2 immigrants (Australia). The new wave of bludgers over the years are having a big negative impact on Australia, and also Germany. I draw a parallel here.
I feel that I had to leave my country of birth in search of a better life because of a flood of refugees and Australia was the best option in hindsight. Now, we have the same problem here. But there will be a lot of people who will not fit in and bred unrest.
The 1950's were the highlights of Australia when European immigrants sought a better life, worked hard and made Australia a lucky country and put it on the world map.
Look at Germany and Australia now, we are being criticized for not opening the floodgates. Enough is enough!
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