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Syria Has Become a Terrible Place to Be a Woman

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Violence against women has skyrocketed since the Syrian conflict began.

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Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 12:51 am
The people who tortured and rape these women are men who don;t have the ability to attract a women on their own.Does it never occur to them that the same fate awaits their own wives and daughters ?. Tn regard to the Honor killing there is no honor in this it's pure and simple murder.It's another case of muddled Islamic thinking blame the victim not the criminal.

Michael A (28)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 1:31 am

Ira Herson (13)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 1:41 am
This is not just limited to Syria. In war torn areas women are always victimized. And as we all know it is not about sex it is about domination or punishment. It is sick and it is epidemic in the Islamic world. The recent articles say that currently Egypt is the worst country for women. but as the list goes the first 20 countries are Islamic. What does this tell you?

My sympathy goes out to these ladies and I hope that the killing and torture will end.

Rose Becke (141)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 1:42 am

Athena F (131)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 1:46 am
Thank you, Cal.
When will women be recognized as human beings?

Nikolas K (94)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 1:48 am
When the banksters interfere in countries such as Syria they target women because it provides a great diversion of what they are actually up to in these countries such as Syria because it will be given the greatest press to amuse the sheeples. Every country that has had a war or is having a war or conflict is a result of the banksters attempt at taking over the planet under their version of a one world prison planet called New World Order.

Kerrie G (116)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 2:48 am
Noted, thanks.

Mar Shams (0)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 3:16 am
Regarding Mr Alfred's comment, Islam has nothing to do with all the wrong things that is happening in Syria of crimes and rapes. Please note that not all muslims understand their religion and follow it's right principles Period!

Lisa b (0)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 3:16 am
Thank u, Cal. Alfred and Ira; this is nothing to do with Islam. It is the regime doing this to the rebels and they worship Bashar and Ali, a Muslim worships Allah alone. The reason why the conflict started in the first place was because the Shi'ite government (worshipping Ali; the Prophet (s.a.w) cousin) started killing the Sunni rebels (merely because of their faith in Allah). this video along with news' stories and news of the events taking place from human rights agencies prove this. In the video; the regime's troops bury a Muslim man alive trying to get him to worship Assad. However he stays faithful to Allah.

Ben O (171)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 3:17 am
Well Syria has become a terrible place for every Woman, Man or Child!

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 4:00 am
When can the female be really respected?

Gloria picchetti (304)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 4:23 am
I am no fan of the Middle East.

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 5:08 am

. (0)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 7:29 am
Terrible! The Middle East has never been very kind towards women. Thanks for sharing, Cal.

. (0)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 9:30 am
Noted & posted

Madhu Pillai (22)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 12:19 pm
Terrible, cruelty humans are capable of.

Roger G (154)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 12:46 pm
noted, thanks

Jennifer Ward (40)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 1:41 pm
They are not 'rebels' - they are not even Syrians. They are the flotsam and jetsam of international jihadists who are seeking an outlet for their psychopathy and financed by Sunni interests. Look beyond the surface- the religion is a cover for genocide- people are not necessary and humanity is not considered.

Lynne Buckley (0)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 3:47 pm

Birgit W (160)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 5:02 pm
Unfortunately it is not only Syria.

S J (130)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 5:11 pm
Women are second class citizen everywhere in the world, but the worst in WAR. Thanks Cal

Ondine J (134)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 8:12 pm
Noted, thanks

Lisa b (0)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 10:17 pm
Phyllis, don't be so merciless. People are being killed mercilessly in their thousands. Also Muslims are the ones being targeted globally by non-muslims merely because of them worshipping Allah. If people knew Islam they would know it is nothing but a peaceful religion and the military Jihad has nothing to do with such a beautiful religion. Look at my comments under 'Muslims kill 38,000 elephants in one year' just type 'elephants - Muslims' in the search box then click on it. Near the bottom of the page I have put Quran and hadeeth passages proving Islam is nothing but kind. And to say Sunnis are funding it is not true. Advice for every one: pray to the Creator directly without giving Him a name (the name may be false and thus wont answer the prayer) and say something like 'Dear Creator. Please help me to understand your words clearly and to act upon them in accordance to your will. Help me to follow the way that pleases you (whatever way that is)' then when He leads you on a certain path; thank Him and follow that path. For God knows best. His creations prove this. Note: by referring to God as the 'creator' without giving Him a name you will know then that you are praying directly to the creator that created all things as you are referring to Him as the 'creator' alone and because all know they were created there would be sincerety in the heart.

Stephen Brian (23)
Wednesday November 27, 2013, 11:49 pm
Hi Lisa :)

Communities defined by their identification with a religion have a tendency to stray from that religion. I know, and I suspect Phyllis knows, that Jihad is a mindset of being at war with evil, not compromising with it. However, a lot of people attack those whom they see as evil-doers, rather than just evil itself, and they call it Jihad. Words get their meaning from common use and, sadly, a word used for a long time to describe a mindset of righteousness has become commonly used for something very different. It's like why, in the U.S., I don't even blink at being called a "racist" anymore, no matter how terrible what was always called bigotry is.

I could go into detail about how and why this mistreatment of women, "Jihad" as it is now called, and many other problems arise in post-Caliphate societies. I could even go into detail about some central aspects of it which run directly contrary to Mohammed's primary work. It has nothing to do with Islam itself, but a tradition related to how it spread has created a lot of trouble.

Franshisca Dearmas (89)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 12:40 am
Noted TY Cal

Ira Herson (13)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 1:19 am
There seems to be some sort of paranoia in the Islamic world. There are over 1 billion Muslims. When they say they are being targeted you have to ask if the whole billion plus are being threatened. With what extinction or conversion or what? Further when you start counting the dead and injured it is important to note that it is mostly Muslims killing Muslims. So who is targeting whom?

As to the assault on women it has to be noted that 60 years ago when Gamel Abdu Nasser was in Egypt pictures show women on the streets of Cairo withhout burkas or covering. Women were not treated as badly then as now. So one must ask what has changed? Could it be that there is a higher level of religious dogma being forced on the populous?

Although many will say that it has noting to do with Islam itself and you would most likely be right. But the use of Islam by the dictators and Mullahs that use it to control and stamp out freedoms is obvious.

More than one Arab reporter has remarked that whenever a leader has troubles with his people he uses the diversion of war to keep everyone in line. This is not just a phenomenon of the Islamic world but is also a trick used by incompetent politicians the world over. As is said "War is the refuge of the incompetent politician". (see Marlow, H Trantor)

The Palestinians have been used by the Islamic world for years and hated by all the Arab countries while they say they are supporting them in their cause. Just see how they are treated by everyone.

No this has noting to do with religion itself. just power. Power to subjugate women, Control the masses and keep them uneducated, Power to maintain corrupt governments and all the time blame it on the west, the Jews, The Christians, the others (Sunni Vs Shi'a). Allah forbid they should look at themselves.

The constant claim that the west is out to destroy Islam, as if the 1 billion are under attack. Gasp, when will they stop being afraid? when they are 2 billion.

criss s (4)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 5:57 am
Noted ty

Winn Adams (179)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 6:18 am
No surprise here . . . .

Phil P (94)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 6:49 am
These outrages are happening all over the world, it's epidemic. If there were any justice or a god, s/he/it would sweep the earth clean of the vermin responsible and those that are guilty of these horrendous acts.

Lisa b (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 10:37 am
Hi Ira,

Thank you for your comment. However, where you say its mainly Muslims killing Muslims; I have to disagree. First of all to be able to define a Muslim from a non-muslim; you have to pray to the Creator directly, eg. 'Dear Creator (without giving Him a name)' and with sincerety (with the intention of praying to the Creator directly; whoever He is) ask Him to help you to understand His words, otherwise any understanding of The Quran and hadeeths are merely based on your own understanding of them, and thus could be a false understanding. And, there are certain acts mentioned in The Quran and strong hadeeths which seperate a Muslim from a non-muslim. Eg performing magic*, witch-craft*, believing in psychics*, and ghosts from the dead are disbelief as these people worship demons; and to be a Muslim you have to worship Allah alone. It also teaches that those who drink alcohol and gamble (at the time of them doing these acts) are not Muslim; but when they give these acts up and repent to Allah, they become Muslim again. Also, those who miss their 5 daily prayers are not Muslim, as it is worship that seperates a Muslim from a non-muslim.

Quran 1 makes it clear; we (Muslims) worship Allah alone, look at the capital letters:

In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful (1)
PRAISE BE TO ALLAH, Lord of the Worlds, (2) The Beneficent, the Merciful. (3) Owner of the Day of Judgment, (4) THEE (ALONE) WE WORSHIP; Thee (alone) we ask for help. (5) Show us the straight path, (6) The path of those whom Thou hast favoured. Not (the path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray. (7)

Also, to know what a Muslim is, you have to be willing to read The Quran as this is the source Muslims go by, and if radical groups mentioned on the news were really to do with Islam, it would mention these groups in The Quran itself (however it does not say even a single thing about terrorism in there; the only killings are during a battle and the Muslim fights the individual back in self-defence).

'Have the people been amazed that We revealed [revelation] to a man from among them, [saying], "Warn mankind and give good tidings to those who believe that they will have a [firm] precedence of honor with their Lord"? [But] the disbelievers say, "Indeed, this is an obvious magician." ' (Chapter 10, Verse 2) 'We' in this verse is to emphasize Allah's importance. The last bit of the chapter: 'but the disbelievers say, "indeed, this is an obvious magician" ' makes it clear that those who do magic are disbelievers.

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "Avoid the Mubiqat, i.e., shirk and witchcraft." (Book #71, Hadith #659) 'Shirk' means an act of associating others with Allah; thus means to not commit shirk or witchcraft, as they're both disbelief.

"And from the evil of those who practise witchcraft when they blow in the knots, (Quran 113, Verse 4) Again, shows disapproval of witchcraft; calling it 'evil'.

Narrated 'Aisha: I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The angels descend, the clouds and mention this or that matter decreed in the Heaven. The devils listen stealthily to such a matter, come down to inspire the soothsayers with it, and the latter would add to it one-hundred lies of their own." (Book #54, Hadith #432)

meaning Allah and the angels speak in the heavens in regards to a person, their family etc and the demons (jinns) listen in to what is being said, a comet then chases after the Jinn (demon) and the Jinn will come down to the earth and tell the fortune-tellers/psychics what they heard; then they will also add loads of lies to what was said (that's why a psychic will sometimes get things wrong and other times get things right with what they say). It also means the psychic worships the demon in return for what it tells them and thus cannot be Muslim.

Therefore, remind (mankind of Islamic Monotheism, O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم). By the Grace of Allah, you are neither a soothsayer, nor a madman. (Quran 52, Verse 29) A request from Allah to the Prophet (s.a.w) to remind mankind of worshipping One God alone. Allah then makes a point in saying that the Prophet (s.a.w) is neither a soothsayer (eg. fortune-teller or psychic), nor a madman. By this we know a psychic is worshipping other than Allah, and thus is a disbeliever.

I will send you the rest at a later time (God willing) as my mom wants her laptop back. However, the events are definitely not done by Muslims. It is not even possible for a muslim to kill another muslim; or for a muslim to kill a disbeliever unless the disbeliever is in battle with the Muslim (and thus self-defence). I've mentioned events below so you can see for yourself:

For years, Jews have killed the Palestinians for no just reason other than to take their land. They do ethnic cleansing on a big scale; they not only bomb the Palestinians' homes, kill civilians (incl. babies and children), keep the Palestinians as 'prisoners' in their own country as a way of not letting them escape the bloodshed, starve dogs to eat the Palestinians' body, use phosphorous gas, put curfews on the people, bomb any place of refuge as for the Palestinians not to escape, spray chemicals into the Palestinians' eyes, cut the Palestinians, burn the Palestinians, call the Palestinians' "dogs" or "animals", count them down as they kill them; with the intentions of killing them all, put a checkpoint around Gaza to make the Palestinians' life even harder, drive them over with their tanks, stop the ambulances, stop aid from getting in to the country, when they are pregnant their babies die because they can't get to the hospital in time to give birth due to the checkpoints and the ambulances being stopped, life-support machines being turned off and electric being turned off as an whole, lack of medical supplies/sanitation; they also treat the Palestinians like animals and throw them into small cages, war crimes and much more. People who saw the conflict would know what I'm saying is true. During the conflict they wouldn't even let news reporters enter the country of Gaza as to hide the truth; they only let Israeli' news reporters go in there; who, of course would only show the less damaged areas of Gaza, and Israel itself with such minute damage (the hundreds, or more, of casualties and deaths of Palestinians, incl. little children and babies; with just about 17 deaths in Israel) in itself shows that the Israelis were the most brutal and it was directed merely at innocent civilians. This also shows that muslims don't kill disbelievers merely because of disbelief; but merely through self-defence (otherwise there would have been much more higher casualties/deaths in Israel to what there actually was). The fighting the Palestinians took part in was merely in self-defence to protect theirselves, their homes/land and their family. Self-defence is quite different to 'radical', 'waging war', 'glorifying war' and all these remarks we hear on the news; and from non-muslims. Anyone who is in a terrible situation would self-defence to protect them and their family etc if they could.

Syria - this conflict started after Bashar Assad and his regime started attacking the Sunni rebel' areas of the country killing whosoever they could of the Sunni Muslims, and their children merely because they are Muslim. Assad worships Ali and thus is NOT a Muslim for Muslims have to worship Allah alone. I receive mailings off human right groups (Oxfam, Islamic Relief, UNICEF and others) about these conflicts and other things going on in the world, and they have been sending me the bloodied pictures of this conflict; they tell me that it is the worst conflict that has ever been and that even children are not spared, being shot at and abused by the regime.

Assad' troops buried some children and a man alive in Syria -
Burying a man alive trying to get him to worship Assad; merely because he worships Allah and is a Muslim - This makes it clear that it is a war AGAINST MUSLIMS by non-muslims

Egypt - The conflict in Egypt started by non-muslim troops attacking the country; because the government was Muslim and they wanted him down. The troops are now over the country and have been killing many Muslims, invading a mosque and keeping them captive, and arresting people - again a war started AGAINST MUSLIMS by non-muslims.

Iraq and Afghanistan - as you should know these wars started following 9/11 terrorist attacks when America and Britain sent non-muslim troops there to kill Muslims. America claimed they had nucleur weapons but none was found, confirming they were just lied about in an attempt to kill Muslims and manipulate the public against Muslims, an attempt which has worked. Again, a war AGAINST MUSLIMS; by non-muslims.

Nigeria - In yr '10 Christians burnt 100's of Muslims alive and hacked others to death

Now on to Somalia, Kenya and Sudan -
Christians burn 100s of Muslims, incl children, in a massacre. AGAINST MUSLIMS by non-muslims AGAINST MUSLIMS by non-muslims bear in mind the words 'The assailants targeted Muslims, reportedly killing at least 150, Human Rights Watch said' in the article. proves Muslims/Islam have nothing to do with the radical Jihad and they even speak up against it but their efforts are crippled. They also get threatened themselves by the radical group, and attacked when they refuse to join. (The Islamic Jihad is totally unrelated to any form of terror; it merely means 'to strive and struggle in Allah's cause' and means self-defence during a battle started by the non-muslim in an attempt to kill the muslim merely because of their faith). America prepares to kill muslims. AGAINST MUSLIMS by non-muslims a former marine burned a mosque to avenge U.S troops. However, if you base it on the information on my last comment in regards to Iraq/Afghanistan wars, you would know Muslims are innocent. AGAINST MUSLIMS Christians kill and eat roasted muslims. AGAINST MUSLIMS
We are NOT allowed to kill:
Do not kill a person because Allah has forbidden killing except in the matter of (legal) justice. Quran 6:151
Each soul earns the sins that are made by the person that possesses it. A soul does not earn any sin that is made by another person. Quran 6:164
Some troops that were fighting Muslims have became Muslim due to the Muslims' kindness to them whilst they were fighting them. There's many; but I have listed a few:
Thank u for reading and take care

. (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 10:58 am
Lisa Bromley: Your rantings , mostly off topic, have nothing to do with the plight of women in Syria. The issue of a woman's worth has little to do with Assad's reign- his role has only made it more pronounced.
Your long tirade on the Jews and the Palestinians is nothing short of bizarre.

Mike H (252)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 11:07 am
Any Muslim country is a terrible place to be a woman

Ira Herson (13)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 2:08 pm
Hi Lisa,
I can see you are passionate about your religion. However when I said that the majority of Muslims are being killed by Muslims, I do not separate between sects of who follows what part of the dogma. Personally I do not care about religion and find that the fundamentalists use it to control others and have nothing to do with the worship of anything except power.

I do take exception in the statement that Jews Kill Palestinians for no reason except to steal their land is a false statement and needs to be corrected. Israel is first of all not just Jews but infact Muslims make up at least 20% of the population and many serve in the IDF. Palestinians have not accepted Israel as a country and for years have committed acts of terrorism. These acts have not been confined to the Israel but have even taken place in the USA with the killing of Robert Kennedy by confessed assassin Surhan Surhan. So It is an antismetic statement that Jews Kill Palestinians for no reason except to steal their land.

How many Jews have been killed in Israel by Palestinians and what is the reaction by the governments of the Palestinians? What about the indiscriminate shelling of civilian centers. No you should not open that line of dialog as you are not in any moral position to justify that kind of murder.

By the way your statements about how the Israelis stop pregnant women at checkpoints. Yes to check to see if they are carrying bombs. Why because they do! Many IDF soldiers have been killed by women pretending to be pregnant then killing them. Many terrorists have claimed to be sick then when in hospital killed the very staff that tried to help them. Are Israelis careful now? yes. How many children are used by your fine Islamic leaders as human bombs. Attaching explosives to children and sending them out on a "Holy Jihad". Look at the hate taught on Hamas Children's TV. No do not try to paint the Israelis and the enemy of Islam. Not when there are Muslim generals in the IDF and Israeli parliament.

Now look at the numbers of Muslims being killed in Syria alone. over 100,000 killed in just the last 2 years. Look at the numbers killed in the Iran/Iraq war over 1 million look at the numbers killed in sectarian bombing of Mosques look at the killings in Libya.

The numbers just go on and on. So do not quote scripture at me about how loving and peaceful Islam is. I think the actions and statements of the Islamic based governments like Hamas and Iran that call for the death of all Jews, Christians, the establishment of world wide Shia'a law the end of democracy speak for Islam.

If you do not like what people are doing in the name of your religion then stop them. But if you defend them then you are guilty by association and support.

My apologies, I know I have gone off topic but quoting scripture as a defense of bad acts cannot go unchallenged.

Ira Herson (13)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 2:33 pm
Just for your interest here is a statement today by Ahmad Al-Tayeb, Sheikh Of Al-Azhar In Egypt - The Leading Religious Institution In Sunni Islam - Justifies Antisemitism On The Basis Of The Koran.

So you can say anything you like using the Koran. Love your neighbor or kill anyone you want. Take your pick.

Rhonda W (376)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 3:40 pm

Lisa b (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 10:50 pm
Sorry if I upset anyone and that was not my intention at all. However, if anyone says something not right about Islam I feel I have to speak up.

Ira, every thing I said about Jews and these events taking place is based on documentaries I have watched that's how I know it is true. Also, human rights agencies contact me.

I am not trying to justify evil acts; I am just being factual. Could you give me a link where you have got all of your information from, please - regarding the sheikh in Egypt; the Muslims killing Jews and being in the IDF, Al-Jazeera children's program (Iv only heard of Al Jazeera Arabic and Al Jazeera English news channels) And Muslims pretending to be pregnant in Palestine having bombs? Just that I haven't heard of any of these things. It may just be that I haven't heard of them; Im not sure. Also, could you give me Quranic evidence of killing Christians/Jews just that Iv read all of it and haven't came across it.

Lisa b (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 11:01 pm
Sorry, Iv had to seperate the comment in two as it was playing up. If I was anti-semitic then I would say ALL Jews kill Muslims but Im not and I never did as this would be a lie. Some Christians and Jews are good people and some are bad; and its likewise with people who say they are muslim but it is these individuals own acts. It is not baded on faith. Also people (incl Muslims) who are properly guided cannot possibly translate The Quran differently to each other as God guides the truly guided equally and thus all would agree with the meaning of the Quran. I know there's a lot of false sites going around lately about Islam and other faiths and that's why I need to see the proofs of what you say please. However, back on the above subject in all war-torn countries it is terrible for all. Take care x

Lisa b (0)
Thursday November 28, 2013, 11:21 pm
I forgot to mention; in the countries that you have mentioned where thousands of muslims are killed; if you were to look at the news and receive human rights letters, as I do, then you would know these killings are done by non muslims except in the case of Syria which is done by Shi'ites who worship Ali. So I don't understand how this would affect Islam being lovely. x

Lisa b (0)
Friday November 29, 2013, 8:17 am
Thank you for your message, Steven :-) I agree with loads of what you say; if I understand your comment right. But, I'm not sure. Take care.

Ira Herson (13)
Friday November 29, 2013, 8:34 pm Hamas tv for children Jew are the enemy of Islam and should be Killed.
There is so much more that I do not want to continue this.

Lisa it is what they say GI GO - Garbage in Garbage out. The complete falsehoods that you quote are just that GIGO.

Lisa b (0)
Saturday November 30, 2013, 4:56 am
Hi Ira

Thank you for your comment.

I have noticed you have not provided any legitimate proofs to what you claim Muslims do in Palestine and elsewhere in the world, and what you claim The Koran teaches. Even the videos you provide; do not even have any of the dreadful things you claim on your comments, except for the sheikh video where he says about the Jews and no where in this video does it mention that the views of this sheikh are based on The Koran's teachings. And neither does it say he is Sunni, both things which you claimed on your comments. Also, the video you show is on You Tube; not any Islamic channel and anyone can put videos on here (videos based on fact or fiction). If this video is true, and this is the sheikh saying this, then what the sheikh is saying is against Islam and is his own views; something which I, myself, and most Muslims around the globe are against. If I could; I would contact this sheikh and tell him that the views he expresses are against the teachings of Islam, and Muslims worldwide, and he should avert from such views.

I knew you wouldn't be able to provide me with any proof as Islam does not teach any of these things that you accuse the religion and Muslims of; and so I could say exactly the same back to you; that you are trying to justify evil (but I wont as I am not here to insult/argue with anyone). Anyone knows non-muslim troops enter Iraq and Afghanistan, and elsewhere in the world, and how people call their murderous acts 'heroic'. So to say it is Muslims killing Muslims, and so on, does not really make sense.

On to the videos: the first one shows a girl saying she wants to be killed by her opponents merely because of her faith in Allah (martyr). You would only think this is evil if you interpretated the word 'martyr' to mean what the media makes out (eg. to kill the enemies). However, the meaning of the word 'martyr' islamically is entirely different to what the media says it means. 'Martyr' does NOT even involve the Muslim/s killing anyone; it indeed means for the Muslim to be killed by their enemy, merely through oppression. The enemy that is fighting with the Muslim, can in fact still be alive after they kill the Muslim. The following hadeeth makes clear what a martyr is (there being 5 meanings of the word) words marked with is the meaning of the previous word:

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle (s.a.w) said, "While a man was going on a way, he saw a thorny branch and removed it from the way and Allah became pleased by his action and forgave him for that." Then the Prophet (s.a.w) said, "Five are martyrs: One who dies of plague, one who dies of an abdominal disease, one who dies of drowning, one who is buried alive (and) dies and one who is killed in Allah's cause

Lisa b (0)
Saturday November 30, 2013, 5:16 am
All my comment hasn't come up; 'killed in Allah's cause' means for the Muslim/s opponent/s to fight the Muslim in battle against the Muslim merely because of their faith in Allah, and the Muslim fights back equally or less than the opponent (in self-defence) and gets killed. So, from my comment; you should be able to see that a martyr doesn't even involve a Muslim killing anyone at all, but rather the Muslim gets killed by their opponent.

Take care

Ira Herson (13)
Saturday November 30, 2013, 3:41 pm
This discussion is totally off topic. The story is about how women are being mistreated in Syria. Quoting scripture from any religion is pointless. There is no logic but a circular argument that "every thing in the book is true because it is written in the book". And because it was written years ago does not make it relevant or true today,

So please spare us all the senseless religious stuff. I am more interested in the way we can protest the cruelty to women and girls that are being tortured in Syria.

Lisa b (0)
Sunday December 1, 2013, 1:42 am
Hi Ira,

Thank you for your comment. I was just going through the things you accused Islam of. This is the last comment I will say on this topic; the point is that no-one should falsely accuse anyone/any religion of the things you did about Islam and esp. when its these individuals suffering. The Koran is true because people who truly understand its meaning only has to look every where (creations, events taking place, words used and so on) and can relate it all to The Koran because of its great description; but that wasn't the point I was making anyway. I was trying to make you realise the things you accuse Islam/Muslims of is not even a teaching of Islam. Thank you for caring about these women/children in Syria. I would also like to thank you Cal and every one else, and I hope God blesses you all for your good works. Sorry for the comments; I didn't mean any harm. Take care xx

Ira Herson (13)
Sunday December 1, 2013, 2:27 pm
Thank you LIsa. I understand that you do not want to accept that there are people in Muslim world that do terrible things. You have accused an entire nation of war crimes based on lies told by people that want to kill them.

Here is a little clip make by your friends in the Islamic group Hamas. It aired on Hamas TV and is a Hamas production. It boasts of how many acts of terror it has done recently.

It is not something that the Israelis would want to see as it is a painful declaration of hate. You will no doubt say that it is not in the Koran, However it is people who use the Koran as their foundation for the acts they commit.

I join you in hoping that women in countries that are mistreating them will get relief. Please not that as bad Syria is Egypt was listed as worse.

Lisa b (0)
Monday December 2, 2013, 12:45 am
Thank you, Ira. I know there are SOME people in the muslim world that do terrible things; in the same way that there are SOME people in ALL religions that do terrible things and thus a certain ethnicity should not be singled out as being the bad ones. I cannot really say about Hamas as I don't know them. I'm confused - I'm not sure if you mean all Muslims want Jews dead or all of Hamas want them dead; as not all Muslims are a part of Hamas, and I know I DON'T want them dead, I just want conflicts to stop towards anyone of all faiths. So, I'm not changing the topic from above; I think it's terrible for women and girls in all war-torn countries, regardless of ethnicity. According to human rights groups; the Syrian war is one of the bloodiest in history, with even children being a target by the regime. Take care

Ira Herson (13)
Monday December 2, 2013, 3:49 am
Thank you LIsa,
I do not mean that all Muslims want all Jews dead. I have lived with Palestinian families when I was in Israel.
I think of them with affection. I have friends in Australia that are Muslims and we are very close. I am pointing out that there are very substantial groups in the middle east Hezbollah and Hamas that have worked very hard to undermine the peace process for their own ends. This is not the religion but use religion to get what they want.

These are not people that want a happy Palestine because if they did they would find a way to find it. By making the issue a religious one instead of a financial/political one they make it impossible to find a way of compromise. It is the same tactic they are using in Syria and will be using when Iran attacks Iraq then Saudi Arabia. Take Care

Lisa b (0)
Tuesday December 3, 2013, 1:43 am
Thank you Ira and you take care, too. To be honest; I don't really know about either of them groups - Hezbollah/Hamas. I only know they exist because of hearing about them on the news. I've submitted a news' story on Syrian children if all could note it, please. xx

Melania P (122)
Wednesday December 4, 2013, 2:10 pm
No doubt about it... Terrible ;((
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