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These States Are Fighting to Refuse Services to Gays


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: politics, government, gay rights, news, ethics )

Cal
- 307 days ago - takepart.com
Despite growing national acceptance, some legislators are pushing anti-gay policies.



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Past Member (0)
Friday February 14, 2014, 8:03 am
When you said these, I was thinking there would be more than 2. But doesn't this go back to The Bill of Rights, which is recognized as the first ten amendments to the Constitution, and imply guarantees that the government will not infringe upon individual rights? It doesn't appear that is have ever been answered.
 

Roger Skinner (14)
Friday February 14, 2014, 10:59 am
Bigotry in the name of “sincerely held religious beliefs" is still bigotry. People have all sorts of weird religious beliefs, are they all supposed to be able to discriminate against anyone they please? Weren't “sincerely held religious beliefs" once used as the reason to refuse service to blacks? How is this any different?
 

Winn Adams (203)
Friday February 14, 2014, 11:37 am
When will the people in government in these states wake up and stop their bigotry and hatred? This is unbelievable in this day and age. There is no excuse for this disgusting and despicable behavior. I hope the citizens in these states vote all of these people out of office.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (448)
Friday February 14, 2014, 2:35 pm
Thanks Winn-I couldn't have written it better.
 

Lois Jordan (58)
Friday February 14, 2014, 2:38 pm
Noted. There are many things I've changed my mind on over these many years of my life, but I've always believed it's a human right for any human being to marry any other human being. (Adults....not children, of course.) And, on this day of hearts & love, all that comes to mind is "Love is all you need." I simply can't understand all this hatred. I'm fed up with "hate-speech" from those who are ignorant and stuck in time....the Dark Ages.
So, I signed the pledge, and already receive mailings from many LGBT groups and sign their petitions and send letters of support. Gay marriage and gay rights have never been any shred of threat to my marriage. For those who feel threatened, I suggest a mirror.
 

Ellie K. (6)
Friday February 14, 2014, 2:45 pm
How can people refuse service to anyone based on their sexual preference? What did we go back a step in life? We are all human, EQUALITY FOR ALL!!!
 

. (0)
Friday February 14, 2014, 5:13 pm
That's too bad. Thanks for sharing, Cal.
 

Angela J. (64)
Friday February 14, 2014, 8:11 pm
Thank you.
 

Jordan G. (29)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 12:22 am
This is 2014 ... AD or BC?
 

John B. (122)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 3:52 am
Thanks Cal for the link to the article by Ms. Parvini. Bigotry because of someone religious belief is still bigotry. Kudos to Kansas lawmaker Emily Perry for her statement: "I don't see fighting for this bill as being brave, Doing the right thing is doing the right thing.” Read and noted.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 3:55 am
Pledged!! We non-heterosexuals are human too! It's so sad that we're still fighting for equal rights in 2014.
 

Louise D. (38)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 5:17 am
One of the greatest tragedies in history is the hijacking of morality by religion. Having read the New Testament apart from the fact that the book of Revelations was written by people with some mental disorders: many of the so called Christians have seriously missed the whole point of Christianity, particularly when it comes to casting the first stone. Giving gay people are hard time demonstrates a mean minded ignorant attitude which is so out of touch with basic human decency. But then fundamentalist Christians have never really evolved basic decency especially if it gets in the way of hating things. I hate beans but I don't criticize people who do; so can they not understand the concept of live and let live?
 

ewoud k. (73)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 6:01 am
All the world (well, sort of...) was protesting against Poutin and Russia denying LBGTs their rights, but some US-states have a similar, homophobic, legislation....
 

Dandelion G. (383)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 7:09 am
This must not be allowed to continue for it will spread like cancer and we'll have what the Russians are dealing with today.
 

pam w. (191)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 9:57 am
Religious BIGOTS waving their bibles and claiming they have the RIGHT to discriminate against the rest of us.....does that sound JESUSY to YOU?

Round 'em up and send them to Afghanistan...they'll fit in just fine!
 

Kathleen R. (203)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 10:05 am
This is so wrong. If we give in to these bigots, this won't stop with gays, who will be next? Blacks, Hispanics, or maybe these "Christians" would be against Jews or Muslims or Hindus. Or maybe they will object to those who belong to the "wrong" Christian faith. Do we really want to allow this bigotry. No, not just no, but HELL NO!
 

GGmaSheila D. (169)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 10:09 am
Faith in the world has been highjacked by the so-called upright, moral Christans. When they get to those Pearly Gates they prize, they'll be surprised to see LGBT, African-Americans, Hispanics, and any other minority peoples will all be allowed in... while they're shown the Elevator Down, never understanding that bigotry is bigotry, no excuses accepted.
 

Arielle S. (317)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 11:03 am
There is NOTHING religious about bigotry and hatred - how sad these people are who spend so much energy on something so silly. Imagine what good they could do if they weren't so busy spreading darkness.
 

Joanne Dixon (40)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 12:52 pm
Two states now but you can bet others are watching and will jump in if these succeed. And that the bigoted citizenry will continue to elect bigoted legislators. Yes, a majority of Americans now approve gay marriage, but the minority is still large, and it is concentrated in certain states. Well, biracial couples survived this, and we will too (and incidentally here are still people opposed to biracial marriage after all this time. Look at what that jerk said about Bill deBlasio in /new York)
 

donald Baumgartner (6)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 1:04 pm
Equality for ALL!!!
 

Debbie W. (117)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 1:08 pm
Good! Being gay is so "sick"!
 

Aurea Walker (216)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 1:19 pm
Kansas oh dear Kansas, I do believe the evil witch of the east is still alive and well within your land of "Oz". We need to start upholding the SEPARATION OF STATE & CHURCH or tax all churches for infringing on everyone's civil rights!
 

Leanne B. (28)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 1:22 pm
Live and let live without judgment.
 

Lynne Buckley (0)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 1:28 pm
Despicable and disgusting. They shame America with this filth.
 

Joanne Dixon (40)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 1:34 pm
ROTFLACGU!!! Just read this: live link
 

Shan D. (49)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 1:41 pm
"Good! Being gay is so "sick"! " (Debbie W.)

I see from your profile that you list Alexander the Great as one of your role models. Did you know he had a male lover (Hephaestion)?
 

Dandelion G. (383)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 2:06 pm
I see for a couple on here I guess caring stops at a certain point. Remember we are ALL ONE. Yup, the same air of life you breath they also do so.
 

Shan D. (49)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 2:15 pm
"Kansas’ bill would require that government agencies ensure employees are available to provide services if one worker refuses for religious reasons." (article)

WHAT!? GOVERNMENT employees would be allowed to discriminate? What kind of demented, backward place is that state?

Even the most bigoted Canadian politician would realize such a thing here wouldn't have a hope in hell of getting by the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, or the Human Rights Commission.
 

Shan D. (49)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 2:19 pm
"They shame America with this filth." (Lynne Buckley)

The politicians and bigots there certainly do shame their state. Bigotry is indeed filthy.
 

Birgit W. (152)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 4:00 pm
Are you kidding me? We are all equal!
 

Vicky P. (466)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 4:54 pm
very sad :/
 

Devon Griffiths (15)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 6:58 pm
Filthy bigot perverts with a fetish for being sadistic towards gay people, just leave them alone, find something positive to get your jollies from
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 7:26 pm
Ah, the Christian Taliban of America once again trying to live up to the historical legacy of Christianity. From the moment Christianity acquired power with Constantine making it the STATE Religion of the Roman Empire it engaged in 'conversion by the sword', 200 years before Islam existed, and pogroms against pagans, Jews and in particular other Christian sects that detracted from the power of the Church. Charlemagne killed all who would not convert. The Inquisition, which by the by has never been ended by the Roman Catholic Church just renamed a number of times, 1908 changed to "Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office" and in 1988 as "Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith" and is part of the Curia now charged with "declaring or imposing canonical sanctions" . It is this history of intolerance that led the Founding Fathers of the USA to specifically ban a State Religion. One must note that the Kansass law specifically bans Courts and Judges from ruling on the law as it must because it is totally Unconstitutional but the Kansass law can not and does not apply to Federal courts including SCOTUS. State law can only trump Federal law when not specified in the Constitution and freedom of religion is as well a the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. It is in essence no different than the plethora of laws introduced by Repugs to legalize bullying based on religious beliefs.
 

Esther Z. (96)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 7:27 pm
I guess the American Constitution means squat for those extreme right wing "patriots", if you happen to be gay. These people make me "sick"...and yes, Debbie W., that means you! Extreme right wing bigots have this special talent to pick and choose morality based on the religious beliefs, to rationalize their hatred of what they don't understand; they also really excel at deconstructing the American Constitution so not all Americans can receive the same rights, the equal rights that are GOD given, and that no bigoted people can truly take away!
 

Ondine J. (138)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 9:00 pm
So many great points made here today and like most here I feel very strongly about bigotry, no matter how it is packaged. Thanks Cal
 

Bryna Pizzo (139)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 9:47 pm
These kinds of efforts break my heart. My deceased beloved brother was gay, and I will fight these kinds of things until the day I die to honor him. Thank you for sharing the news, Cal. Thank you! (s, n, p, t)
 

Vivian B. (158)
Saturday February 15, 2014, 10:25 pm
How can people do this to fellow human beings? This is so utterly disgusting that I have no words!
The Constitution of the US says, in no uncertain terms that there will be a separation of church and state. Here's to the good ole boys for trying to destroy the very thing they say they hold highest in their hearts!
They thump that Constitutional right to bear arms, but they try to get the churches into the law making all the time! They want to make it to where you have to be a card carrying "Christian" to vote!
I'm sick to death of all their rantings and ravings about what would Jesus do, the 2nd amendment, and how things should be run by the Bible! If that is what the framers of the Constitution wanted, they would have written it that way!
They are total hypocrites!
 

Jane H. (138)
Sunday February 16, 2014, 9:27 am
I pledged, but sorry to say, my own state, Kentucky, passed the same law Kansas recently passed. It was passed last year, so Kansas probably learned about it from KY.
 

Maury Clahms (1)
Saturday February 22, 2014, 4:35 pm
Yes ... Religion. The last bastion of discrimination. If someone's mythical being or text says that another's lifestyle is not OK then discrimination should be legal. Um ... That's illegal. What if my religion says that I shouldn't serve whites and those of Chinese descent because my "god" says so? That would be repulsive. What's the difference? It's prejudice, it's discrimination, and it's backed up my what? Religion? Nope. It's politics. I don't knock anyone's religion so don't prevent anyone's right to be treated as a human being. That's what Jesus would have done!
 
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