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Jewish Extremists in Israel Torch Church, Bibles and Prayer Books


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Sam
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A fire ripped through one of the most famous Catholic churches in the Holy Land on Thursday, damaging the roof and burning Bibles and prayer books in what authorities believe is an attack by Jewish extremists.



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Sam H (410)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 9:24 am
It’s the same type of hate crime that took place in South Carolina.
 

Sue H (7)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 9:55 am
Shame!
 

Sam H (410)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 10:04 am
The church marks the traditional spot of Jesus' miracle of the loaves and fish, and is located on the shore of the Sea of Galilee.

It is one of the most popular stops for Christian pilgrims visiting the Holy Land.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 10:17 am
I will never understand these types of crimes. Hopefully I never will.
Thank you Sam
 

Teresa W (782)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 10:30 am
sadly noted
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 2:47 pm
Thanks Sam for posting this barbarism, was planning on doing so myself.
The crime does have a clear extremist settlers signature and I wonder about the consequences, if any.

Nutyahoo promised to "bring to justice those responsible for this criminal act", but that justice often turns a bit questionable. As the Reuters article states :
" Dozens of arrests have been made in such cases, but there have been few indictments and convictions, with police and prosecutors acknowledging that the young age of many of the suspected perpetrators has led courts to show leniency."

They're not Paestinian perpetrators!
 

Angelika R (143)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 3:16 pm
correction: read "posting ABOUT this barbarism"!
 

Carol R (11)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 4:03 pm
So right Angie! Thanks Sam.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 5:37 pm
"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu condemned the incident and ordered the head of Israel's Shin Bet internal security agency to "to conduct a full and speedy investigation."

"This morning's outrageous arson attack on a church is an attack on us all. In Israel freedom of worship is one of our core values and is guaranteed under the law," Netanyahu said. "Those responsible for this despicable crime will face the full force of the law. Hate and intolerance have no place in our society."
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Israeli President Reuven Rivlin said authorities would make every effort to apprehend those responsible.

"Such terrible desecration of an ancient and holy place of prayer is an attack on the very fabric of life in our country, where people of different faiths seek to live together in harmony and mutual tolerance and respect," Rivlin said.

Police said they initially arrested 16 youths, all religious Jewish seminary students from West Bank settlements, but released them shortly thereafter. Their lawyer, Itamar Ben Gvir, told Israeli Army Radio the police had no evidence against the youths and that they were under suspicion simply for looking like young settlers."

I wish Arab leaders have similar attitude towards Arab extremists when they burn Churches, Synagogues and Mosques.
 

jess b (26)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 6:09 pm
So wrong!! Just, shameful!

Thank you, Sam, heard about this, today.
 

Edith B (146)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 8:53 pm
There seems to be extremism in every faith these days. Are we becoming more barbaric?
 

ParsifalAWAY S (99)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 10:32 pm

The Church of the Multiplication, an other sacred place destroyed by Jewish ISIS !!!

How do radical Jews stand to Jesus Christ, anyway ? (video)
 

ParsifalAWAY S (99)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 10:36 pm

Sam, this assault to human core values happened in occupied South-Syria
 

ParsifalAWAY S (99)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 10:38 pm

Yes Zionist Bob Algeron, we know about the Nazi propaganda you spread all over the C2NN (but we do not know where you get your garbage -- is it provided by the hasbara manager in charge ???

What we also know:

UN Says Israel Worst Violator Of Human Rights
 

ParsifalAWAY S (99)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 10:38 pm

It was not me
 

catherine g (16)
Friday June 19, 2015, 1:19 am
Is the world going completely mad? In these days of overpopulation, extreme pollution, famines and unemployment shouldn't we all work together instead?
 

John De Avalon (36)
Friday June 19, 2015, 9:28 am
Sam: The South Carolina murders. Yes, well there you are. THAT is what happens when people go around stirring the HATE pot, somewhere down the line it manifests itself as violence and invariably innocent people get hurt.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Friday June 19, 2015, 9:33 am
Sam:
The title says 'Jewish Extremists torch ...'
The article says "in what authorities BELIEVE is an attack by Jewish extremists"
Has anyone been arrested and charged? If not, you shouldn't be making such claims in the title. It may be so, then again it may not. Either way you've stirred up some anti-Israeli sentiment which presumably was your plan. Because it usually is.
 

Beth S (330)
Friday June 19, 2015, 9:36 am
This was very wrong! And those who did it should be punished.

However, unlike Palestinians who dance in the streets, ululating, and handing out sweets as a national celebration whenever Israel is harmed in some way, this act was unambiguously condemned in Israel:

Called "price tag" attacks - a euphemism for nationalistically motivated hate crimes by Jewish extremists which generally target Arabs, usually in revenge for terrorist attacks or demolitions of Jewish homes in Judea and Samaria.

Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat vigorously condemned the arson attack on the Greek Orthodox Seminary, saying, "There is no room for such deplorable activity in Jerusalem, we must eradicate this behavior and bring those responsible to justice."

Barkat also spoke with the Jerusalem Chief of Police and asked him to hurry the investigation. "We must quickly restore the peace and coexistence in Jerusalem," Barkat stressed.

You can bet you bottom dollar that Palestinian authorities would NEVER condemn a parallel incident.

Instead they would name streets and buildings after the perps.

There can be no more opposite approach to this kind of crime between Israel and the PA and Hamas.

Israel investigates, takes responsibility, tries in real courts and finds the guilty, guilty, and sends Jews who commit crimes to prison.

Palestinians celebrate the perps, who become heroes, with posters of their faces plastered all over the areas so they can make sure to thank the criminals.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Friday June 19, 2015, 9:40 am
Burning churches is a disgusting display of bigotry and religious intolerance. I hope the ones responsible, no matter who they are, are brought to justice.
And ditto all those who burnt down churches in Iraq and Syria and elsewhere that weren't deemed worthy of being a Care2 thread.
 

Sam H (410)
Friday June 19, 2015, 9:45 am
That fake peacemaker, again!!!

Israeli soldiers cheered while Palestinian bled to death under army jeep

Those Martians must have TORCHED the CHURCH!
 

Beth S (330)
Friday June 19, 2015, 9:45 am
Angelika huffs: about BARBARISM.

Well these kids were wrong -- if in fact they did it -- but this was done to an INANIMATE building and contents.

When Israeli blood is shed, well, that's not "barbarism", that's just fine, by the many here.

NOTHING is said by the same people when Christians all over the Middle East, Pakistan, Afghanistan and elsewhere, are tortured, burned, kidnapped, raped, beheaded, sold in to sex slavery by Muslims. It doesn't even merit a mild, "not nice." Well THESE crimes committed against Christians by MUSLIMS don't count if Israelis don't do them.

This group of disgusting people deserve the CAIR2 for biggest bunch of nauseating hypocrites.
 

Sam H (410)
Friday June 19, 2015, 11:02 am
The "nauseating hypocrites" are the ones who claim to be interested in the peace process. Well, maybe they're not hypocrites after all, for they're interested the peace process but NEVER in PEACE.

A so-called democracy that's scared of citizens voting "in droves." THAT IS HYPOCRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Janet B (0)
Friday June 19, 2015, 1:46 pm
Thanks
 

Beth S (330)
Friday June 19, 2015, 1:58 pm
Yes, nauseating hypocrite awards.

Does Israel do everything right? Absolutely not. They have their faults. Does Israel relative to all the countries in the 'hood have anything like the absolute guaranteed freedom of worship, freedom of speech, gay rights, women's rights and so much more as Israel does? NO

Do any of the other countries in that 'hood have "no death penalty" as Israel does? NO

These countries on a daily basis have people taken away for criticizing the government or whomever and summarily shot or hanged or some other sort of death. No problem. Only Israel does not have capital punishment.

Israel doesn't even allow people to declaw cats for fear of causing pain to cats.

Peace? Who started war with Israel, when the U.N. voted Israel in as a state/country. And so many times after that?

Has Israel blown some opportunities? Yes. Can they do better? Yes. Does any other country that points its finger face the same existential threats? NO

We can go on and on.
 

Beth S (330)
Friday June 19, 2015, 2:02 pm

Remember something important. The OIC -- the 55-country Organization of Islamic States are some of the WORST human rights abusers in the world, and they carry the largest vote in the UN.

So all this Israel has the worst human rights, the worst violations, yada yada is garbage. It's like Stalin or Mao saying that (despite the hundreds of millions of their own people they killed) that Communism is really the most humane system, ah but CAPITALISM and DEMOCRACY, well, that's the worst system.

The OIC is the most corrupt and largest organization on the planet.

Next we can talk about "BARBARISM".
 

Freya H (361)
Friday June 19, 2015, 2:26 pm
Goes to show that even Jews can be vicious!
 

Kate Kenner (215)
Friday June 19, 2015, 3:07 pm
There are extremist s in all shapes, sizes, colors, and religions. I certainly do not condone this but they are extremists, not the state of Israel. I know though that many are and will condemn the whole country though. Israel is not the culprit here but those who did the burning are.
 

Kate Kenner (215)
Friday June 19, 2015, 3:15 pm
If there were no religions so many problems would not exist but the things that are done in the name of God and Allah are disgusting. I do consider myself a Jew but also an atheist. It is my culture and my history but I want no part of deities which people feel gives them the right to commit violent acts, start wars, as well as a host of other "sins". They call animals beasts and use words like aggressive and even use the names of animals as slurs but it is we who commit such atrocities as killing because we want power and to take over people's countries, land, stop them form doing things a certain way because they are different. I am tired of religion and I am tired of most people because all they usually do is depress me. Stop vernalizing and look at the act here and not the entire country because yes, you are just being a bunch of anti-Semites.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Friday June 19, 2015, 3:42 pm
Sam: People like you go around stirring up racial hatred against Israel, the most likely outcome of which is anti-Semitic attacks against Jewish people in countries outside Israel who haven't done anything to anybody.

That's the trouble with preaching hate, once the hate genie is out of the bottle 'you' can't whistle it back or control it.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Friday June 19, 2015, 3:49 pm
Kate: I understand what you're saying. Organised religion is divisive, though it's all the same God!

'Faith without charity is dead. Love is the fulfilling of the Law' .... Those who resort to violence, bloodshed and killing have no concept of the God they purport to worship.
 

Sam H (410)
Friday June 19, 2015, 3:59 pm
“…once the hate genie is out of the bottle 'you' can't whistle it back or control it.” And you’re the best proof of that theory, John.

Bruce Shipman said it best RIGHT HERE. But even God couldn’t help him.

“As hope for a two-state solution fades and Palestinian casualties continue to mount, the best antidote to anti-Semitism would be for Israel’s patrons abroad to press the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for final-status resolution to the Palestinian question.”

(Rev.) BRUCE M. SHIPMAN
Groton, Conn., Aug. 21, 2014
 

Beth S (330)
Friday June 19, 2015, 4:01 pm
I think the gist of the articles Sam and his ilk post is precisely because they know it will lead to violence. This has been done historically, and it's miserable, irresponsible, and Sam feeds off of it.

Take a look at the Qur'an and see the verses of violence and hatred Islam has for non-Muslims. Not only do they not even come close to this level, they do not even acknowledge that it is anything to aspire to.

Most people who live around Islamic enclaves and countries, regardless of their religion, really just want to live out their lives in peace. The only way Islam acknowledges that is by making people who don't convert either die or pay Jizya, a terrible tax, the burden under which most have a very difficult time surviving.

Let's look at where the problem lays, and it's not with Israel.
 

Beth S (330)
Friday June 19, 2015, 4:05 pm

Clarification: not only does Islam not even come close to the level of loving others/the non-Muslim, Islam denies that loving the other/the non-Muslim is something that is the exact opposite of what they aspire to.

If only the worst of what Muslims did -- and Islam commands them to do -- look at ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc., was as bad as this. It wouldn't be good, but it wouldn't be the hell we live with today.
 

Sam H (410)
Friday June 19, 2015, 4:23 pm
Those troubled Zionists again!

The conversation is about Jewish extremists burning down the church that marks the traditional spot of Jesus' miracle of the loaves and fish.

How did Islam and Moslems get into the picture?

Was it the Moslems who put Jesus on the Cross?

We can start with the premise that no good will come out of organized religion. But why is it so hard for the Zionists to condemn this cowardly act without bringing up all the shenanigans that are taking place on Mars?
 

Beth S (330)
Friday June 19, 2015, 4:35 pm

Because you and your buddies are always exempting Muslims from the same rules you expect from Jews and Christians.

These boys are probably of families that were persecuted down through 2,000 millennia, and they are BOYS, and if you read my earlier comments, I condemned the act TWICE.

When do you, Sam, show up on our articles of REAL ATROCITIES where Muslims are beheading non-Muslims and many other horrifying and at the very least troubling things all over the world and you say it's wrong?

I have NEVER seen condemnation from you of this. And that is why people are calling you an anti-Semite, because you can only find something wrong with what people who are up against annihilation wrong, but you seem to see nothing wrong with the REAL HORRORS going on all over the Islamic world.

NEVER have I seen you post on that. And I can only assume you have a frightful case of double standards based on anti-Semitism, when you could care less about the world falling down around you..
 

Sam H (410)
Friday June 19, 2015, 4:47 pm
That's hardly a condemnation! That's a justification of the cowardly act. "These boys are probably of families that were persecuted down through 2,000 millennia, and they are BOYS..."

Are you EVER going to learn the language of LOVE?

‘You hurt me. You hurt a lot of people. But God forgives you. I forgive you.’

Would a Zionist EVER be able to utter these words?
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday June 19, 2015, 5:45 pm
Probably not, their mind maps are orientated on revenge, retaliation, not on forgiveness. "An eye for an eye"- what a devasting principle!
 

Madhuri Pillai (22)
Friday June 19, 2015, 5:52 pm
Abrahamic religions, they all think they are better than the other. Sick of all religions.
 

Fiona Ogilvie (597)
Friday June 19, 2015, 6:38 pm
Yes, this is the same kind of hate crime that took place in South Carolina.
 

Colleen L (3)
Friday June 19, 2015, 10:50 pm
Sad to think that people can carry so much hatred in them. Like the idiot that killed the people in South Carolina. Wish these sick minded fools would just jump off a bridge. If they don't like others, leave the others alone and mind your own business. Doing evil acts of hatred isn't the way to go. Thanks Sam
 

John De Avalon (36)
Saturday June 20, 2015, 1:43 am
Sam: What I've posted on here and elsewhere on Care2, and what you've posted are there for all to see.

You seem so full of hate - and your constant Israeli/Jew bashing threads are testament to this. WHY????

 

John De Avalon (36)
Saturday June 20, 2015, 1:51 am
Sam: Thanks for the link. I didn't click on it, as I knew it would only take me to a hate site.
I'm familiar with the piece though.

'The best antidote to anti-Semitism' ... Hmm. That would be Karma's antidote to it. You come back a Jew and experience it first hand. That'll cure you of it good and proper.
 

John De Avalon (36)
Saturday June 20, 2015, 1:55 am
Good post, Colleen H.

There is good and bad in every nation and race.

Seek to motivate and bring forth the good in people ... The only way to make a better and more peaceful world.
 

M B (62)
Saturday June 20, 2015, 9:44 am
Thanks Sam.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday June 20, 2015, 12:32 pm
Shameful. Reminds me of the Nazis torching synagogues. Guess these Jews have forgotten that. thx Sam
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday June 20, 2015, 3:56 pm
What a blessing that pope Francis also speaks the language of love and forgiveness. Were he not, he would demand of Israel the same special security for catholic churches that are advised for synagogues worldwide, no matter how much the Nutyahoo guarantees freedom of worship under the law.
This wasn't the first attack and we should be prepared to see more of such, especially after the Vatican's recent official recognition of a Palestinian state.
 

sylvie C (46)
Saturday June 20, 2015, 7:43 pm
Jews and not the Israelis? All Jews not living in Israel and everywhere ideas differ. Why never support the Israeli opposition who are fighting against government as in all countries? Many Israelis are in prison, even army officers for refusing to serve in the occupied territories, called refuzniks.
Should I assimilate all white American Christians with their police men who kill blacks so often without ever being convicted, segregation and so many racist murders in the US? The Israeli policy seems to be a boon for many, but not like the anti American sentiment in Europe and in the rest of the world with many reasons yet. As you say Freya "Goes to show That Even Jews can be vicious!". A much older thought that the Israeli state.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Sunday July 12, 2015, 6:00 pm

Update of July 12, 2015

Suspects arrested

JERUSALEM (AP) — Israeli police have arrested a number of suspects in last month's arson attack on a famous Catholic church in the Holy Land, police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said Sunday.

The fire is believed to be an attack by Jewish extremists, but Rosenfeld would not elaborate on the identity of those arrested. The June 18 fire at the Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fish caused extensive damage to the inside and outside of the building, including damage to the roof and prayer books.

The modern building is built on the remains of a fifth-century Byzantine church and features a Byzantine mosaic floor that was not harmed. The church marks the traditional spot of Jesus' miracle of the loaves and fish, and is located on the shore of the Sea of Galilee in northern Israel. It is one of the most popular stops for Christian pilgrims visiting the Holy Land.

The attack was condemned across the Israeli political spectrum and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the head of Israel's Shin Bet internal security agency to "to conduct a full and speedy investigation."
Rosenfeld said the arrests were made following a joint effort with the Shin Bet. In recent years, mosques and churches have been targeted by vandals in similar attacks. They are often attributed to extremist Jews from West Bank settlements.

~*~*~*~*~

It's quite telling that the names of the suspects are not given nor their religious affiliation ... something which is always done when it concerns Palestinians and/or Muslims ....

Wonder what the outcome will be if we're ever going to hear about it!

 

Angelika R (143)
Monday July 13, 2015, 4:05 am
"Details of the arrests, including the number of suspects and their place of residence, are under a court-imposed gag order. The suspects were being questioned by the Shin Bet.

The investigation is being led by the Nationalist Crimes Division of the Judea and Samaria Police, a unit specializing in investigating hate crimes by Jewish extremists." - adds the Times of Israel.

Had it been a suspected "Arab" attack on a jewish institution or even synagogue, I wonder if a "full and speedy investigation" would also have taken 24 days... and no gag order, that goes without saying.
Thanks Eleonora, didn't we know it..
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Monday July 13, 2015, 9:59 am

Thanks Angelika - yeah, we know it since a long time and yet ... I'm always anew surprised ;-)!!
 
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