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It's Quite a Historical Event When Someone in Israel Uses Common Sense!


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Sam
- 593 days ago - news.yahoo.com
"When there's a 13-year-old girl holding scissors or a knife and there is some distance between her and the soldiers, I don't want to see a soldier open fire and empty his magazine at a girl like that, even if she is committing a very serious act."



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Maria Teresa Schollhorn (42)
Sunday March 6, 2016, 10:13 pm
Common sense is the least common of senses.
Noted. Thanks Sam.
 

Evelyn B (62)
Sunday March 6, 2016, 10:29 pm
Thanks, Sam -
Isn't it sad when what should be self evident becomes "news" ..... and when it stirs many rejecting comments!

But admitting that "self defence" excuses are covering extreme violence actions is NOT something that suits (most) Israeli leaders, nor all those supporting the hasbara message of "poor Israel has to do what it can against these monstrous Palestinians".
 

Rose B (141)
Monday March 7, 2016, 1:53 am
I agree with Evelyn
 

Sam H (410)
Monday March 7, 2016, 3:13 am
A competition in brutality between Israel and ISIS!

“Video footage showed the girls being shot, then a policeman running back towards one of them WHILE SHE WAS LYING ON THE GROUND AND OPENING FIRE AGAIN.”
 

Janis K (132)
Monday March 7, 2016, 5:14 am
Thanks for sharing
 

Farah H (150)
Monday March 7, 2016, 6:07 am
noted, thanks for sharing
 

Kathleen M (233)
Monday March 7, 2016, 6:34 am
Thanks for sharing, Sam. Good to see you!
 

Lona G (85)
Monday March 7, 2016, 8:14 am
Of course Gadi Eisenkot's remarks are nothing more than common sense. Make no mistake, this man is no pussycat; the article gives a lot of instances where he had no problem threatening violence, something you'd expect from a military man in his position. But even for him the recent dealings of the military with young Palestinian assailants have crossed a line and he feels strongly enough about it to publicly comment on. A brave gesture, as even this common sense remark may put his military career in danger. The Israeli government seems to be escalating in their fear and hate mongering these past weeks, now pursuing to deport the parents of young Palestinians who are suspected of attacking Israelis to Gaza, possibly as an upbeat to even more aggressive measures, so a more civilized standpoint is not welcomed, especially from among their own.

It's good to read that many have described his comments as common sense, though. He must have hit a nerve with some sensible people, so he's not alone in this in Israel.
 

Evelyn B (62)
Monday March 7, 2016, 9:30 am
Oh Lona - he is FAR from alone in this in Israel, although more are still in the stage of not quite willing to speak out clearly. We have some Israeli friends here on C2NN who almost certainly will empathise with what he said ... they don't attack & insult those who criticise Israeli/ right wing policies & plans, although they are torn between recognising that such criticism ISN'T anti-Semitism, Jew-hating .... and feeling pressured by the right-wingers & hasbara into fearing they'll be labelled as self-hating Jews, traintors, disloyal to the State of Israel.

But slowly, people are realising that there are few Palestinians who still call for elimination of the State of Israel ... Most recognise Israel - and the real issue is how to come to a mutually acceptable modus operandi.

But THAT doesn't suit hasbara-speak - hasbara throws out quotes from defunct documents (such as the 1988 Hamas Charter) which none but those believing hasbara consider to represent Palestinians' perceptions today. Hasbara stories want to blind the world to the fact that Israeli actions contribute significantly to cycles of violence ....

Yes, Gadi Eisenkot is a man of integrity - and courage
 

jess b (26)
Monday March 7, 2016, 3:28 pm
Obvious Execution - Palestinian Woman Killed After Allegedly Ramming Car Into Soldier in Occupied Territory.

http://www.care2.com/news/member/124335883/3961713
ty, Sam.
 

Sam H (410)
Tuesday March 8, 2016, 3:35 am
Hi Lona and Evelyn,

Are you aware of anybody else in the Israeli government who shares those "common sense" views?
 

Evelyn B (62)
Tuesday March 8, 2016, 4:08 am
High level & current? Not that have the integrity to speak out, although I suspect some at least are aware ... (Unless you include vis-à-vis the Iran deal .... some of the intelligence community spoke up there!) The President Reuven Rivlin ..... but he doesn't carry the weight of other Presidents ...

But some ex- .... yes! The Peled family (the General, his son & his daughter). Avnery. Some of those who join Breaking the Silence. The group from the "Secret service" unit who spoke out about their listening in to Palestinian homes. The Shin Bet retired senior officials in that documentary .....
 

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday March 8, 2016, 6:39 am
Here's what would REALLY be a historical event: if the debate about his words had been used to actually analyse them and SPEAK OUT what they conceal: that's defining that objective!
"Rather he should use the force necessary to fulfil the objective."

It is clear what the objective is in Eisenkot's mind, to prevent a murder, in those cases of an IDF or other Israelis.
However, that happens not to match the govt's intention, which apparently is the exact opposite: to enable a murder, in those cases of another Palestinian "snake".
The debate about Gen Eisenkot is therefor just another deflection from and cover up of the real issue.
Thx Sam.
 

Sandra Penna (135)
Tuesday March 8, 2016, 6:40 am
Thank you for sharing, Sam.
 

Janet B (0)
Tuesday March 8, 2016, 10:21 am
Thanks
 

Peggy B (36)
Tuesday March 8, 2016, 1:50 pm
Great article. Thanks for sharing.
 

Evelyn B (62)
Wednesday March 9, 2016, 10:01 am
He's also sticking his neck out on the Iran question: see Is Iran Still Israel's Top Threat?
 
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