Monday August 24, 2009, 2:29 pm

We have lost this country to a bunch of murderous goons folks and we need to stand up and DEMAND a return to the rule of law and FULL accountability.

We need TOP level CIA thrown in jail for life with no parole.

There are a number of news items on here and groups you can go to where you can send letters, petitions and call and fax to push for a FULL investigation and prosecution.

Here's are a couple,

http://www.care2.com/news/member/276942576/1220761

http://www.care2.com/news/member/471046224/1228690

Here's the Attorney General's phone number:


Office of the Attorney General - 202-353-1555

Speak up or give up.

And giving up is NOT an option.

Peace,
NotSilent

Monday August 24, 2009, 2:50 pm
http://townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2001/12/21/angels_on_loan_from_god

Monday August 24, 2009, 2:51 pm
http://abcnews.go.com/US/popup?id=2396057

Monday August 24, 2009, 7:52 pm

More here:
"'Inhumane' CIA terror tactics spur criminal probe"
Associated Press Writers Devlin Barrett And Pamela Hess, Associated Press Writers – 25 mins ago
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090825/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_cia_interrogations

Monday August 24, 2009, 8:14 pm

Just a quick little thing here in response to the posts by "NE L":

Your first link is to a site that might as well be called what it is.....part of the propaganda arm of the corporate fascist bush and PNAC lunatics.

Your second link is one of the most pitiful attempts to change the subject off what it is. How people like yourself can use other's deaths and grief for your own agenda is sick and pitiful.

Point number one:

IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 911

Point number two:

TORTURE DOESN'T GIVE REAL ANSWERS. Just imagine the CIA or anyone else doing what they have done to others, but to you this time. You know what? If they wanted you to admit you were a terrorist, an alien from Mars or Mickey Mouse you would ask them what key they want you to sing it in.

Invading countries that were and are no threat is illegal and makes people hate us. Torturing people makes people hate us. Ignoring international law that is also part of our Constitution makes people hate us. We are making enemies faster than our military can kill them.

People on this site actually read and research , they don't automatically believe something just because some pitiful lapdog waves the flag or tries to connect something to God or the church.

We actually THINK and question things.

We actually search for the truth.

Blind patriotism is dangerous and the complete antithesis of what this country OF THE PEOPLE, BY THE PEOPLE and FOR THE PEOPLE is all about.

Post all the garbage you want, I won't flag you since freedom of speech is part of what I stand for, it's a damn shame the people you support don't believe in it also.

Monday August 24, 2009, 8:23 pm

This from VotersForPeace.us


We've been working for a torture accountability investigation for a very long time. And, many of you have been helping by sending emails and making phone calls to the Attorney General, President and Congress.

Today, a major step was made -- the Attorney General announced that he was appointing a special prosecutor to investigate torture. Read the Attorney General's statement
http://votersforpeace.us/press/index.php?itemid=2602


While this is a major step forward, we are not satisfied. The Attorney General is selectively investigating torture in a limited number of cases and only examining the actions of low-level interrogators. This violates the Convention Against Torture. As we told the Attorney General in a letter I wrote earlier this month on behalf of Voters for Peace and more than 150 other organizations, the Convention Against Torture requires all acts of torture be investigated and all those involved be held accountable by being prosecuted. Read the letter
http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=zrNUwE6i7v18uzSNmesP4Epwn9mag9E6



We are going to keep the pressure on. We want a full investigation and we do not want policy makers or lawyers who facilitated torture protected.

Please support our efforts by clicking here to make a donation today.
https://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/1312/t/6850/shop/custom.jsp?donate_page_KEY=1355


Also, please take action by writing the Attorney General and urging him to investigate everyone involved in torture. Investigating a handful of low-level interrogators from the CIA is insufficient when thousands have been tortured. The policy makers and lawyers involved must also be held accountable for their actions. The Attorney General cannot let politics come before enforcing the law through selective prosecutions. Click here to take action
http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/1312/t/6850/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=27114


Thank you for your support.

Sincerely,

Kevin Zeese
Executive Director
VotersForPeace.US

Tuesday August 25, 2009, 3:11 pm

This from IndictBushNow.org

**Please circulate widely to friends and on social-networking sites**

It is Bush and Cheney who gave the orders and
it is they who must be held responsible

Washington Post masthead (transparent bk)

“The real culprits in this sordid story are those higher-ups, starting with former president George W. Bush and former vice president Richard B. Cheney, who led America down the degrading path of state-sanctioned torture and left the next administration to cope with the fallout.”

Help the IndictBushNow movement grow
by making a donation today!

Dear
Every member of IndictBushNow should feel proud. The announcement that a Special Prosecutor has been appointed to investigate Bush-era crimes was the direct result of the massive, grassroots movement from below. It was the action taken by you and people all around the country that made this possible.

The investigation must and will lead back to the high officials who ordered their subordinates to carry out the most heinous crimes. Now we must keep up the pressure. In fact we must increase it a hundred fold with newspaper ads, street demonstrations, media outreach and more.

Please make an urgently needed donation today.



As it was stated by the Washington Post lead editorial today:

“The real culprits in this sordid story are those higher-ups, starting with former president George W. Bush and former vice president Richard B. Cheney, who led America down the degrading path of state-sanctioned torture and left the next administration to cope with the fallout.”

What does the report that Attorney General Eric Holder released yesterday reveal? That Cheney, Bush and Rumsfeld’s torture tactics included:

* Mock executions
* Repeatedly choking detainees carotid artery until unconsciousness
* Threatening sexual attacks against the children and parents of detainees
* Detaining the children of detainees and threatening to kill the children
* “Hard takedowns” meaning repeatedly smashing prisoners into the floor
* Head smashing inmates into walls
* Water dousing, pouring freezing water on naked inmates strapped to plastic sheets followed by holding the still naked inmates in bitterly cold cells for days
* Sleep deprivation lasting for 11 days
* Violent shaking of prisoners
* Waterboarding (mock drowning) 183 times in the case of one detainee
* Hanging prisoners form their wrists for up to three days
* “Scrubbing” the bodies of detainees with metal brushes

More than one hundred prisoners may have died in these torture centers according to Col. Lawrence Wilkerson who served as Colin Powell’s chief of staff during the Bush Administration.

The IndictBushNow movement is now in high gear for the next phase of this critical struggle to save the Constitution. Every elected official and the mass media must know that the people will not accept finding a few low-level scapegoats to punish.

Members of Congress are echoing this call and we can create an avalanche of public support for the indictment of Cheney, Bush and Rumsfeld.

Jerome Nadler, the House Judiciary Constitution Subcommittee Chairman said yesterday: “The gruesome acts described in today's report did not happen in a vacuum ... it is vital that this special counsel be given a broad mandate to investigate these abuses, to follow the evidence where it leads, and to prosecute where warranted.”

Now that the investigation has begun all efforts to limit it will fail. Each step of the investigation will inevitably point to those who gave the orders in the chain of command. It is Bush and Cheney who gave the orders and it is they who must be held responsible.

IndictBushNow.org

Friday August 28, 2009, 2:10 pm


Demand Accountability for those at the top who ordered the torture & abuse!

Send a message to Attorney General Eric Holder

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/424/t/4589/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=27821

and let him know we support his first step, but that it must lead to real justice, where the rule of law is upheld against those at the top rungs of political power, not just those at the bottom and where the false claims of national security do not trump the clear requirements of the constitution.

The appointment of a Special Prosecutor is an important breakthrough, ending years of impunity for the systematic torture and brutalization of detainees. Let's remind Holder that this is a very important beginning, but still only a beginning.

Send a letter to the Attorney General and tell him not stop at the interrogators--he must hold those at the top accountable! We will add you to our Citizen’s Arrest Action Team to keep you in the loop about war criminals whereabouts and opportunities to slap pink cuffs on them!

Once you send the letter you will be redirected to a page where you can get the fabulous "Torture Team" cards made by CREDO Action and Center for Constitutional Rights!

Stand with CODEPINK and other organizations thanking Attorney General Eric Holder for his first step but that we want to see those at the top held accountable!

After you sign the letter, you can get the free tortue cards (and as they mention, they can help start a conversation on the issue and get more people aware).

You get a set free, but can order more, I ordered 5 sets and if you do that you can pass them out or whatever you feel will gte the word out to the most people.

They say this about the cards:

Want the torturers prosecuted? Tired of the "few bad apples" line? The Center for Constitutional Rights has partnered with CREDO to distribute Torture Team trading cards to spark the conversation about responsibility for torture at the highest levels. Get one pack of 10 cards for free. $5 for a complete set of all 20 cards; $20 for five sets. All money will go to CCR. The cards may take 3-7 weeks to arrive.

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/424/t/4589/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=27821

Friday August 28, 2009, 6:43 pm
noted thank you