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Denmark: Gay Couples Can Now Marry In Church


Society & Culture  (tags: Denmark, Church Weddings, same-sex marriage, gayrights, freedoms, government, religion, law, GoodNews )

Rob and J
- 827 days ago - euronews.com
Denmark has long been a pioneer in gay rights, becoming the first country in the world to allow same-sex civil unions in 1989, now it follows Sweden in allowing same-sex state church (Lutheran) marriages.



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Sue H. (7)
Saturday June 16, 2012, 10:00 am
Thank you Denmark and Sweden! Equality.
 

Rob and Jay B. (121)
Saturday June 16, 2012, 10:03 am
This is wonderful news for human rights and tolerance. This follows Sweden legalizing same-sex weddings in their state churches last year (and their head bishop is a lesbian who is married to her longterm partner), and the recent announcement that Conservative Jewish rabbis have produced a rite of marriage for same-sex couples in their temples!

Some things are getting better!
 

pam w. (191)
Saturday June 16, 2012, 10:13 am
HOORAY FOR THEM!

Although I'm generally against "state" churches, in THIS ONE LITTLE CASE..... :-) I'll make an exception!
 

Michela m. (3943)
Saturday June 16, 2012, 10:34 am
Noted
 

Ge M. (218)
Saturday June 16, 2012, 1:30 pm
Jesus never spoke out aganist or condemned same sex relationships so why would churches not marry any couple?

This would be men believing that they knew better and changing/making up what they wanted. Another example is Mary Magdalene, she was always called a whore or prostitute but nowhere, in any Gospel, does it say that.
 

Roger M. (0)
Saturday June 16, 2012, 1:56 pm
Good.

Everyone else. please take note.
 

Stan B. (124)
Saturday June 16, 2012, 7:39 pm
Well done Denmark. Hopefully other countries will soon follow suit.
 

Beth S. (326)
Saturday June 16, 2012, 9:52 pm
Now if Denmark will only protect the gays it allows to marry from the Muslims....
 

Lydia W. (172)
Saturday June 16, 2012, 10:16 pm
Nice ! Now if the rest of the world could get w/ the century . A big step forward . Thanks for posting .
 

Joe R. (189)
Sunday June 17, 2012, 4:11 am
Great news! Thanks Rob and Jay.
 

Bo J. (0)
Sunday June 17, 2012, 5:07 am
Small corrections on Sweden:

1) Since 2000, the Church of Sweden is no longer a state church. They decided on their own to hold same-sex marriages from November 2009, 6 months after same-sex marriages became legal in Sweden.

2) The head bishop in Sweden is the archbishop of Uppsala, who is male. But the bishop of Stockholm (the capital) is female, and married to another female priest.
 

Kathy Javens (104)
Sunday June 17, 2012, 7:53 am
Noted. This is wonderful news. Now if only the rest of the world would think the same way.
 

Berny p. (23)
Sunday June 17, 2012, 1:18 pm

Love cant be wrong...no matter who loves who...so very good news!
 

Joan AWAY McAllister (1083)
Monday June 18, 2012, 1:33 am
Well done Denmark & Sweden. Now for the rest of the world. Thanks for sharing Rob & J
 

paul m. (93)
Monday June 18, 2012, 3:05 am

This shoulden't be an issue, dosen' bother me who gets Marrried ,,,up to them ...
 

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Monday June 18, 2012, 3:15 am
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Vlasta M. (7)
Monday June 18, 2012, 6:18 am
Denmark is the most enlightened country in the world. They saved 98% of their Jews in WWII by hiding them and then shipping them to Sweden, which was also good. Unfortunately, now both of those countries have problems with Muslim immigrants who think that women who are not in burkhas are fair game for rape. As you know, sharia hangs adult gays, while favors pedophilia of any sex.
 

Gene Jacobson (252)
Monday June 18, 2012, 9:02 am
I love that my ancestral land, on both sides of my family, so often lead the world in progressive issues. Good people, I hope "we" spread like a virus throughout the world that hatred, greed and this stubborn refusal to care for all of us becomes a thing of the past, as fast as possible. Nice story.
 

Wild Thang (9)
Monday June 18, 2012, 9:44 am
Too bad, you'd think they would realize where all the anti gay history came from to begin with...better to invent a new improved God...
 

Lynne Buckley (0)
Monday June 18, 2012, 1:52 pm
Good news.
 

Ray Lovelace (1)
Monday June 18, 2012, 3:34 pm
Ahh, civilization. Wish it would take on here.
 

John B. (215)
Monday June 18, 2012, 6:43 pm
Thanks Rob and Jay for posting the the good news. Read and pridefully noted.
 

Robert Hardy (67)
Monday June 18, 2012, 9:05 pm
It is interesting that countries with well educated and healthy people make good decisions about the rights of their citizens. Do they have a democracy vaccine?
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Tuesday June 19, 2012, 1:49 am
Celebrate, celebrate, dance to the Music!
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Tuesday June 19, 2012, 4:31 am
Well done Denmark.
 

Gitte Loeyche (28)
Tuesday June 19, 2012, 6:58 am
This is just great!
 

Rob and Jay B. (121)
Tuesday June 19, 2012, 8:59 am
Bo J, thanks for the correction. We understood that the bishop Stockholm was the head bishop of the Swedish Lutheran Church. Well, anyway, she's there and the Swedish church has done the truly Christian thing.
 

marie c. (168)
Tuesday June 19, 2012, 3:42 pm
Thank you Rob and Jay
Hopefully UK will follow Cameron is talking about it
 

JL A. (275)
Wednesday June 20, 2012, 10:56 am
marvelous model of how human rights can be honored without anyone being hurt
 

Sybil Sable (2)
Thursday June 21, 2012, 11:59 am
DISGUSTING!
 

Brian M. (165)
Thursday June 21, 2012, 12:06 pm
Let everyone love whom they will and be happy together. Why do people spend so much time and energy trying to stop others from following their hearts?
 

Lois K. (24)
Sunday July 1, 2012, 12:54 pm
Sybil S. wrote: "DISGUSTING!"

No, it is not disgusting. Two consenting adults have the right to marry each other, no matter if they are the same gender. What IS disgusting is people like you, who presume to tell others what they can and cannot do in the privacy of their own lives and bedrooms. Is it because your own sex life is so boring? Is it because you think some imaginary sky-being gave you more rights than everyone else to judge the validity of other people's marriages? Either way, STFU already. Nobody cares what you stupid, slow-witted, bigoted losers think about anything. You are an anachronism, a throw-back to more primitive times ruled by high priests who, like you, imagined that they had the right to impose superstition-based commands upon the lives of others. I look forward to a time when we can say "good riddance" to the lot of you.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (453)
Wednesday July 11, 2012, 1:36 pm
Under what faith were they married?
 

Carl Nielsen (7)
Monday July 30, 2012, 1:15 pm
I think its fine that the government allows gay marriages,

But I think it stinks that the parliment rather than the members of the church who get to decide what rituals the church must have and what to preach - especially when only one church has it forced on it. No other religious group allowed to perform marriges is forced to do so - the Catholics dont have to, the Mohammedans dont have to, the Jews don have to, the pagans dont have to, the Hindus dont have to, and so on. No the secular state only force it on the Danish Peoples Church.

Who knows - the church might have decided to do it on its own initiative after being permitted to do so by the law, but now it never got the chance. Most priests thought it was a good idea, so I guess that if it hadn't been against secular the first gay church marriage would have happende much earlier.

Do you really think it is proper for secular authorities to dictate religious doctrine?
 

Bo J. (0)
Monday July 30, 2012, 3:38 pm
Since it is a state church, parliament is the ruling assembly of the Church of Denmark, and they do represent the members. So they are he proper authority to make rules for he church.

A clear majority of both members and priests of the Church of Denmark supported the idea of same-sex marriages, so it is not correct to say hat they were forced to do something against their wishes. And the Church already conducted blessing ceremonies for registered partnerships, so what is new is that the ceremonies now have legal standing.

Of course, if it s a good idea to have a state church is another question...
 

Carl Nielsen (7)
Tuesday July 31, 2012, 8:21 am
No we havent had a state church in Denmark since 1849. When the constitution was framed it was written that the Church would have its own constitution which wouid be written at a later time - somehow the politicians never got arround to do that.
Of course it might be costly to the state to figure out exactly how much of the state property really belongs to the church.

It is the church of the Danish People - not the state.

How can the parliment including mohammedans, atheists and whatnot be legitimate representatives of a religious organization they are not part of? Whether the members agree or not is irellevant - they werent asked.

No that the parliment has the power to do this by law doesnt make it any less an abuse of power.
 

Rob and Jay B. (121)
Wednesday August 1, 2012, 7:21 am
The Christian Church had rites for the blessing of same-sex unions until the beginning of the 12th century. So this is NOT some new 'modern' idea.

In fact, the modern hetersexual marriage rite of uniting two people in love is based on the original same-sex rite which was a rite uniting two people in a loving relationship, whereas the heterosexual marriage rite was one of uniting families, passing on of wealth and property, including the bride (note we still 'give the bride away' even today).

Jesus never said a word against gay people. He only taught love, tolerance and nonviolence. He DID condemn the rich and the religious hypocrites who so often get all the news headlines even today while the true followers of Jesus's teachings plod along quietly.

Carl Nielsen, you sound more like the faux Christians Jesus condemned with your bigotry and judgement. Not Christ-like attitudes, whether the Danish church is a state church or not. It sounds like it is finally trying to go back to living and teaching the teachings and values of Jesus Christ instead of Moses, the neurotic Paul and Augustine and all the highly flawed popes and preachers since.

If you really want to know about how same-sex marriage/unions was part of Christianity for 1100 years read the excellent 'Same Sex Unions in PreModern Europe' by the eminent professor of history at Yale Univ. Dr. John Boswell. Get the facts.
 

Vlasta M. (7)
Saturday August 18, 2012, 9:19 am
Jesus was a homeless Jew who hang around with 12 other Jewish guys and occasionally was housed by some well off women (Martha and Mary Magdalena and others). As a Jew he was not too concerned about sex, and did not talk about it much. His concern was compassion and justice.

It was Paul (also Jewish) who started all this nonsense regarding sex and associating it with"sin", probably because some physical defect prevented hiim from getting laid ;-)! When this new Christian church gained power in 313 in the Roman Empire, they started oppressing others, just as they were oppressed before.

Control of sex is a very powerful instrument for keeping power, since after air, water and food, it is one of the basic human needs. Just look what this sexual repression did to Catholic priests, who cannot marry and have fulfilled sex life and evn worse to young Muslims who are promised a fast ticket to Paradise with 72 virgins if they die while murdering Jews and Americans. While Islam hangs consenting adults of the same sex having sex(gays and lesbians), the sharia allows pedophilia (either with boys or grils), polygamyt, misogyny and "honor" murder. Mohamed married Aisha, one of his 12 wives when she was 6 and he was 51, and had sex with her when she was 9.

Jerry Sandusky would be having a field day in Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan since molesting your boys is OK there under sharia ;-)! Just adult gays cannot love each other under sharia ;-)! Child molesting is OK!
 
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