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Libya: Islamists Murder US Ambassador & 3 Staff


Society & Culture  (tags: Libya, Islamists, Mohammed, film, americans, death, culture, freedoms, murder, religion, violence, usa )

Rob and J
- 769 days ago - news.yahoo.com
They were murdered by Orthodox Muslims offended by a US-made film about Mohammed they didn't like.



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JL A. (275)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 8:16 am
are you sure it isn't Egypt you are sharing about?
 

JL A. (275)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 8:18 am
CNN was identifying this type of action in Egypt all day yesterday--is this a spread or what?
 

Sue H. (7)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 8:41 am
Damn! This does not bode well for world peace.
 

Fred H. (31)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 8:42 am
Okay, Okay! "Islam is a religion of peace!" There, I said it! Now, will you please stop killing us?
 

Nancy C. (797)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 8:50 am
Don't see my comment so, Rest in Peace ambassadors of peace...
 

Nancy C. (797)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 8:53 am
Said earlier:
Thank you Hamam for your courage
Send Terry Jones to a psychiatric hospital
Give Romney a star for another blunder
 

Carola May (20)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 8:54 am
JLA, did you even read the article??? It says very clearly LIBYA, and then mentions the protests by soccer hooligans in Egypt too. You see the green button to the bottom right of the summary? Press on that and you'll get the article.
 

Bernard Cronyn (31)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 8:59 am
I would call this a typical reaction to criticism by the defenders of a radical bloodthirsty ideology bent on world domination.
 

Brian M. (197)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 9:02 am
First, the embassy in Egypt, now this in Libya; I'm all for peace...but either everyone is for peace or no one can be for peace. We need to inflict just enough pain that the extremists will decide they just might want peace, too. Semper Fi.
 

Carola May (20)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 9:03 am
It always amazes me how easy it is to offend these primitives. These people are not capable of democracy in any form or function. They will always force their barbaric beliefs on others. Period.

It is amazing too that even to tell the truth about Mohammed's debauchery, mass murders, torture, rape of captive women, pedophilia, banditry, greed, adultery, harem of sex slaves, harem of 'wives', cold-hearted cruelty, lying, violence, forcing people to convert to his new 'religion' etc etc which is all proudly told in Islam's trilogy - the Qur'an, hadith and sira. All of his corruption and evil deeds and sayings are written right there!!

Why don't these idiots burn their own books? They tell the same story about this most evil man whose teachings and actions have caused an estimated 270million people to be slaughtered since he killed the first one 1400 years ago.

Now watch all the braindead PC Loonies defend these murders and riots and condemn the people who made the film, which was probably taken right out of Islamic scripture. What ugly hypocrites! They never see an Islamic atrocity they won't defend. They should be speaking out against violence, hate and stupidity, but that only applies to white, westerners and their beliefs, doesn't it? Hypocrites.

I'm no Romney fan Nancy C, but what's he got to do with this? And you would send someone to a psychiatric hospital for expressing a point of view about an ideology - an opinion? Do you also support the same thing for those who demean Jesus Christ? I doubt it very much. He's fair game with people like you - just don't offend the poor inferior Muslims, right? You people are dangerous.
 

Carola May (20)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 9:09 am
Brian M, I agree with you. I'm all for tolerance and peace with most people, but tolerance and peace are a two-way street. We in the West have been going that way all alone for far too long with Islam. We here in Europe are so tired of never having any tolerance and peace given back.

You in the US will see, as Muslim immigration is increasing for you. But we have 54 million compared to your piddly 2.4 million. You have no idea what you're in for when they reach 3 to 5% in any community. Just check out Dearborn, Michigan and see what happens when they reach a certain number. The demands and threats begin, and they aren't against violence and intimidation to get what they want, after all, Islam is the only true religion and Allah commands them that they must rule us all under Sharia law.

You'll see. Your time is coming...
 

Nancy C. (797)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 9:27 am
Romney used the attack and preempted Clinton and the president's statements with political rhetoric. As for the minister...it's his second offense at inciting unrest. We can't dance at a monument, say our minds on the internet in verbiage, and this man incites riots worldwide.
I work for and believe in peace. And I don't come "here" to argue, but to accomplish greater good.
 

Carola May (20)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 9:41 am
Nancy C, well you don't accomplish 'greater good' with your attitude of silencing free speech about ideologies, you should be working to get these fanatical bigots to learn tolerance and peace, and do some 'greater good' instead of defending and appeasing them.

Your attack on Romney could cause riots and murders (well, if he were a Muslim anyway) would we then be able to blame you for the carnage? You are defending violence and murder! If that's your idea of 'greater good' then please keep it to yourself.

Tolerance and peace are two-way streets. There can be no tolerance of intolerance and violence. This doesn't win them over, can't you see? They just see you as weak and hate you even more. This is a primitive tribal ideology of hate and violence and intolerance that has been killing those who criticize, question or leave it since Mohammed had the first poet murdered who questioned him. 270 million have been slaughtered since then. And you want to silence criticism of this? Scary.
 

Nancy C. (797)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 10:14 am
and your attack on me??? goodbye
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 11:49 am
Insane people will never have peace nor will they have the capability to ever realize what it actually TAKES to create peace! They are too selfish and into their own ideology to be able to recognize that everyone has a right to voice their opinion.........not just those Muslims who are insistent on pushing their beliefs onto othesr. They think they can push their religious beliefs/ideologies onto others but don't you dare tell me there is anything other than what I believe in... or your dead! They are no capable of living anywhere in peace! We need to stop funding those countries and let them sink or swim!!
 

bob m. (32)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 1:11 pm


Whatever kind of beadteyed bafflegabwill our chief dhimmi at CNN (Anderson ) come up with next? (with his silly grin?).. he of course being the face of OZ ..(mo)..in the land of correct perspective.
 

Beth S. (332)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 1:42 pm
These are Obama's babies. He owns this and Egypt, and many of the disasters he's already put into motion that will be the fruit of his ridiculous, amateurish, utopian thinking. This man has it in his plans to spawn many more disasters, in the most misguided thinking one president could ever have, AND THAT INCLUDES BUSH.

Barack Hussein Obama will go down as THE worst president in U.S. history.

"Hayden: Obama's Libya Adventure to Blame for Ambassador Death

Wednesday, 12 Sep 2012 12:05 PM

Violent protests in Libya that claimed the life of the U.S. ambassador were the result of President Obama’s decision to intervene in the Libyan revolt without a “deep appreciation” for what would follow, former CIA Director Michael Hayden tells Newsmax.

Hayden, a former four-star Air Force general, was appointed CIA director by President George W. Bush in 2006 and served until 2009.

In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV on Wednesday, Hayden discusses the events in Libya: “I’m reminded of Secretary of State Powell’s comments about Iraq going back almost a decade — the Pottery Barn theory that if you break it you own it.

“Here’s a case where we went into Libya for reasons that seemed very powerful for some people at the time, almost all of them in Tehran, perhaps without a true or deep appreciation for what the secondary and tertiary effects of overthrowing [Libyan ruler Moammar] Gadhafi would be.

Watch our exclusive interview. Story continues below. (video on article here)

“This was always the story we saw in those cell phone videos of oppressed and oppressor, but there were other stories going on too, other narratives — East vs. West in Libya, tribal disputes in Libya, eastern Libya being home of the Islamic Libyan fighting group.

Please Note: You can watch Gen. Hayden's special LIGNET Briefing on the Iran Crisis and the implications of an Israeli Attack — Click Here Now

link to sign up lignet for iran“All these subplots were always out there and once you shatter the old society, these subplots become far more powerful and now we are seeing the results of that: Loss of control, portable air missiles, weapons from Libya being used to grab the northern half of Mali away from the Malian government, which is a good friend of the U.S."

“The U.N. Security Council resolution on Libya was bait and switch. It was never just humanitarian assistance, it was to overthrow the regime," added Hayden.

"As for how that affects the Russians, think about Syria. Now you’ve got a state, a heavily armed state in Libya that is armed at the militia and tribal level. I actually said when we first intervened that we now take on a moral responsibility for the future of the Libyan state and here we are.”

Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other members of the U.S. diplomatic mission were killed in Benghazi, the cradle of the Libyan revolution, on Wednesday in protest at a movie that depicts the prophet Muhammad.

In addition to the protests in Libya, demonstrators in Egypt tore down an American flag and burned it. Hayden, a member of the advisory board of LIGNET.com, was asked if State Department officials in other countries, particularly the Middle East, are in greater danger.

“I am sure that the cables have gone out to the appropriate embassies in that region saying be on your guard, increase security, strengthen your liaison with local government in order to get a warning of impending demonstrations or attack,” he responds.

“You might even see people being told to vary their times en route to work. You might see other people being told to stay at home. You’ve got to take all appropriate precautions, although I must admit that if you were going to predict two countries in which these events were to take place I would’ve predicted Egypt and Libya as being the two that were most volatile and the two where these events would’ve been most likely.”

Libyan military forces and police were slow to act once the protest in Benghazi developed. Asked if they may have been complicit in the demonstrations, Hayden tells Newsmax: “I really don’t know, and a wise man once told me several decades ago, never blame on malice what can easily be explained by incompetence. So we’re just going to see how the facts take us with regard to what the Libyan government did and didn’t do.”

The protests were sparked by the YouTube trailer of a movie, “Innocence of Muslims,” which insults the Prophet Muhammad. Florida pastor Terry Jones, who had inflamed anger in the Muslim world in 2010 with plans to burn the Koran, said he had promoted the film, which was produced by an Israeli-American property developer.

Regarding Jones, Hayden says: “Blood on his hands is a strong statement, but actions have consequences. These are reasonably predictable consequences, so I do think that someone who set this chain of events in motion bears some measure of responsibility.

“But when you come right down to it, one of our fundamental values is freedom of speech. We have a right to say that. People have a right to say things even if those things are offensive. Frankly, that’s a real test of freedom of speech, isn’t it?”

Asked why protests turned so violent in Libya but not in Egypt, Hayden says: “On the surface, Libya is a far more fractured society. It is all controlled by a variety of competing armed groups. It could be a case where arms in the hands of violent ill-tempered men are more numerous than they are in Egypt.”"

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Hayden-Libya-Stevens-killing/2012/09/12/id/451581?s=al&promo_code=100BD-1

 

Stan B. (123)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 2:29 pm
This is how countries like Egypt, Libya and Pakistan repay the US for the tens of billions they receive in aid.
America only has one true ally in the Mid-East and that's Israel. Aid to these other treacherous bastards should cease immediately.
 

Beth S. (332)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 3:30 pm
And you can see Obama's apologies really helped them love us.....
 

Joan H. (20)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 4:07 pm
I didn't read in the article where Obama apologized to the attackers, but he did. I think Romney is absolutely correct is his opinion. And....
You cannot currently send a star to stan because you have done so within the last week
 

marie c. (168)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 4:46 pm
These filthy cowards are just maniacs.
 

patrica and edw jones (190)
Wednesday September 12, 2012, 10:22 pm
NO-ONE CAN REASON WITH BLOOD CRAZY FANATICS LIKE THESE. THE SIMPLEST THING SETS THEM OFF LIKE BOMBS.. FILTHY, VISCERAL ANIMALS....THERE IS ONLY ONE THING THEY UNDERSTAND - MEET THEM HEAD ON WITH THE SAME TACTICS. SOMEONE IS SURE TO SAY ' BUT THAT MAKES US LIKE THEM....SO? IT IS TIRESOME ALWAYS TURNING THE OTHER CHEEK. DEAL WITH THIS RADICAL TRASH ONCE AND FOR ALL.
 

marie c. (168)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 6:05 am
Must say can not see many of our pro Islam brothers and sisters on this thread
Where are you ?????????????
Would love a reasonable explanation on this one
 

Tommy S. (11)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 11:14 am
The Lebanon news contains the following information (google translation)

Sources said that "the U.S. ambassador to Libya was raped sexually before killing by gunmen who stormed the embassy building in Benghazi last night to protest against the film is offensive to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)," The sources said that "Ambassador was killed and representation of his body in a manner similar to what happened with Gaddafi
and they wonder why there is islamophobia-- was ever such degenerate behaviour attributed to a religion
especially where the facts pertinent to the film that started all this were true
 

Tommy S. (11)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 11:15 am
Apologies- forgot the link
http://www.tayyar.org/Tayyar/News/PoliticalNews/ar-LB/usa-killed-lybia-zek-970.htm
 

Tommy S. (11)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 11:44 am
seems my previous post of this info has been removed so here it is again
Meanwhile in the Lebanon News it is reported that
quote...Sources said that "the U.S. ambassador to Libya was raped sexually before killing by gunmen who stormed the embassy building in Benghazi last night to protest against the film is offensive to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh),..Unquote

http://www.tayyar.org/Tayyar/News/PoliticalNews/ar-LB/usa-killed-lybia-zek-970.htm
 

Sue Matheson (72)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 2:24 pm
thanks
 

Allan Yorkowita (445)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 3:35 pm
I know this is not a popular view, but I believe this should be handled the way Israel would do. Find the cell, group responsible for this, and bomb the hell out of them.
Libya is in no position to do anything about it; if anything, it will encourage them to clean up their act.
Only Carter, Clinton, and Obama have/had reasons for not responding to terrorist attacks/assaults against Americans in the last 35 years. We are Americans, and should not take s*it from any country.
 

Tal H. (8)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 5:31 pm
Thanks for the share!
 

Patricia N. (8)
Thursday September 13, 2012, 10:21 pm
Uneducated barbarians so brainwashed in religion they are like zombies.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday September 14, 2012, 12:22 pm
They should be bombed, I agree, & I'm wondering why Romney is getting blamed, what the heck did he have to do with it ? Guess some have to blame him because he's running for Pres. This happened while Obame is Pres!
These people who did this are not peace lovers as they claim.
 

Fred Krohn (34)
Friday September 14, 2012, 1:11 pm
This is why all Mujadeen must die. They've done a great job of insuring I'll never make Islam my faith.
 

marie c. (168)
Friday September 14, 2012, 2:40 pm
Fred I find some of our friends on C2 who are Muslim make me certain never to change religion as its pages and pages of babble without ever answering a question only stating links and quotes which eventually becomes boring
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 7:09 am
What a beautiful nest made of Christian Taliban propaganda, lies and half truths for all of the Islamophobes to sit in and sing to the choir. The facts point to an preplanned Al Qaeda affiliate attack in revenge for the US killing of Al Libbi, the Libyan #2 leader of Al Qaeda, that used the convenient cove of the demonstration in Benghazi to achieve it objective. The rest of demonstrations were the totally expected and desired outcome of the machinations of Terry Jones, who already has blood on his hands from his Quran burning episode, working with the known Islamophobes Morris Sadek, an Egyptian Christian of the Coptic sect. It must be noted that Sadek hid his identity from the beginning of making the video, lied to the actors hired, and then dubbed in an entirely different script, changed the name of the video, he is a convicted criminal who most likely violated his parole by making the video. It must also be noted that when the video was originally released on You Tube in June,2012 it did not get the desired result of inciting violence so it was re-dubbed into Arabic and promoted as the trailer for an American made movie. The raped body is pure crap. The comments sounds like a Christian Taliban of America Neocon wet dream, all fantasy, hate, excuses for retaliatory violence but no real substance.
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 8:10 am
FYI, if any of you actually want information not justification for your opinions read "Inside the Islamophobic-Religious Right Alliance Whose Film Sparked a Crisis in the Middle East" by Alex Kane, September 14, 2012 at http://www.alternet.org.
 

Carola May (20)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 8:17 am
Ah, here's Islamist 'Lloyd' defending the indefensible hate, violence and primitive backwardness of Islam and its Orthodox believers. His hatred of Christians and Jews (what about those pesky Hindus and Buddhists too, Lloyd? They've been persecuted and slaughtered for centuries by your wonderful loving Islamists who murdered 80million of them according to noted historian Will Durant when peaceful, tolerant Islam invaded and conquered India, destroying Buddhism in its birthplace - you must be able to hate and condemn those islamophobic Hindus/Buddhists too. After all, if they'd have just converted to glorious Islam they wouldn't have been slaughtered, right?! It was their own fault!)

You probably also deny the ethnic cleansing by your peaceful, loving Muslims of Christians and all non-Muslims from every Muslim occupied land from northern Nigeria to Egypt, Tunisia, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, to Indonesia where over 300 churches have been destroyed and even little Christian girls have been beheaded. Must make you swell with pride to see all these hateful infidels getting what they deserve, right?

What a hateful person you are, and a bigot, Christophobe, anti-semite too. You must positively froth at the mouth when those homos are executed slowly for daring to exist in peaceful Muslim lands.

Iran burned some 6500 Bibles a while back and no one rioted or murdered anyone anywhere in the world, but you'd not condemn this act of bigotry since it is against Christians by Muslims, would you?. Atrocities are committed every day by Orthodox Muslims against Jews, Christians, Bahais and all others, yet they don't riot around the world and murder anyone. How do you justify Muslim hate and violence when they are the main persecutors of all other religions? Nine out of the top 10 worst countries for persecution of Christians are Muslim. How do you justify that? (http://www.opendoorsusa.org/persecution/country-profiles/ OR http://www.worldwatchlist.us/world-watch-list-countries/)
Most of those Muslim occupied countries now were Christian before Islam conquered with the sword and made them second class citizens in their own lands, then stole all their more advanced architecture and science and claimed it as their own. How twisted you are.

When Muslims commit their routine offenses against Christians and all others, if these people rioted and killed would you blame the Muslims for setting them off? Of course you wouldn't. What a hypocrite.

Islamaphobia is unreasoned fear of Islam. There is plenty of cause and reason to fear this cult of death, hate and intolerance. You either accept its ugly teachings or have never read the qur'an, hadith and sira, as I have, to say the ignorant, bigoted things you say. It is you who is the bigot and hatemonger for defending Islamic hate, not those of us who oppose it.
 

Bernard Cronyn (31)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 9:22 am
Lloyd your grasp on facts indicates a serious problem with the stuff your supplier gives you. Hey man, that wacky backy you are smoking will fry your brain completely before long!
 

Gloria H. (88)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 7:37 pm
these are extremists. Like the KKK, Aryan Nation, etc. Is every American a card carrying member of either? I don't have a supply of sheets with holes in them (well, I do, but they are from the cat) nor do I have pictures of Adolf Hitler as my screen saver. I had a classmate who was a muslim. Arranged marriage, etc. from Iran. I truly believe that she would not wish ill on me, nor I on her.
 

Tommy S. (11)
Saturday September 15, 2012, 11:30 pm
quote....” Among those mourning Stevens’ death were Hanan Ashrawi, Peter Jennings’ sexy (by Palestinian standards) former girlfriend and Yasser Arafat’s favorite Christian mouthpiece and suicide bombing proponent. Saeb Erekat, who took the same positions, and was Arafat’s chief negotiator and his spokesman, called Stevens “a close friend” but qualified Stevens’ murder with a statement about how “the discrediting of our prophet Mohammad” is not tolerable. ...Unquote
 

Soren Groth Petersen (2311)
Monday September 17, 2012, 7:23 pm
In his strongest attack to date of the actions of extremists, Libya’s Grand Mufti, Sheikh Sadeq Al-Ghariani, has issued a fatwa condemning Tuesday’s killing of US Ambassador Chris Stevens along with three other American diplomatic staff and a number of Libya security guards. He said those involved were criminals who were damned by their action.

He also condemned the production of any film, picture or article insulting the Prophet Mohammad or any of the prophets by “extreme fanatics” in the US or elsewhere.

The Prophet Muhammad, Ghariani said, had specifically forbidden the killing of ambassadors and envoys.

He also pointed to a hadith in which the Prophet had said: “He who kills a confederate will not enter paradise.” (A “confederate” is seen as someone who come to a Muslim country and lives peacefully among Muslims.)
 

Rosie Lopez (73)
Tuesday September 18, 2012, 11:08 am
speechless
 

Hilary S. (45)
Saturday October 6, 2012, 6:20 pm
although this assassination has been linked to the movie for PR reasons, its timing simply doesn't work. this is merely another example of the muslim extremist custom of rewriting history to suit their objectives of sowing hatred towards their chosen scapegoats - the us and israel - wherever possible.
 
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