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EU Muslim Council: Adoption Forbidden, Jews Undermine Muslim 'Moral Values', Women Need Husbands Permission to Cut Hair

Society & Culture  (tags: Muslim Brotherhood, Sweden, Europe, Islam, Fatwa, FIOE, ECFR, children, family, freedoms, religion, rights, women )

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If a child is adopted, Mr. Hawari said they should not be given equal rights to biological children. "Any woman who would marry without a male guardian's consent, her wedding is invalid"

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Tommy S (11)
Wednesday October 3, 2012, 1:07 am
Lets face it -- would any non muslim want their child adopted by a muslim
I would rather see a child reared as an atheist,where reason would have a function in its upbringing
as to moral values-islam is devoid of any
Cutting hair-permission needed-- ROFL
What puzzles me is the fact that muhammad did not have a problem telling lies
so how do muslims know islam isn't a lie

Stan B (123)
Wednesday October 3, 2012, 1:44 am
Good point, Tommy. As far as I'm concerned they would be better reared by a family of orangutangs.

monica r (41)
Wednesday October 3, 2012, 3:50 am
I'm not about to "embrace diversity" of a culture that treats children and women as property. Women are described by the "prophet" as deficient in intellect and religion, with no rights over her own person, ("like domestic animals" to quote exactly). Their testimony is worth half a man's, and they can only inherit half what men do, and that's without even mentioning things like FGM (which according to fiqh she should get "as a courtesy to her husband") or marrying off girls as young as 9 or 10 to men old enough to be their fathers or grandfathers.

Guess what, all cultures are NOT equal. As it happens, the West is importing a culture that has NO regard for human rights of anyone that is not a) male, and b) their co-religionist. We SAY we don't want to discriminate against muslims, and that is a worthy goal. Sadly, to accomplish it, we write off the human rights of countless muslim women and children, thus allowing discrimination against the most vulnerable in muslim society. If you want to see what a "war on women" actually looks like, check out the news from any muslim country.

Imran A. (10)
Wednesday October 3, 2012, 7:28 am
Muhammad abolished adoption so he could have sex with his daughter-in-law of his adopted son. By abolishing adoption, that meant she was no longer his daughter. So the EU Muslim Council's decision is 100% in line with Islam.

As for babies up to 24 months old, there is something called suckling in Islam where the child can become lawful to a new mother. If she let's the baby suck her breasts then the baby become hers. I was having a conversation with a lady who teaches at an Islamic school in Pakistan. Students who graduate becomes scholars in Islam, so it isn't like she is teaching children. This lady was adopted and wanted to adopt. She is still unmarried.

She stated she would only let a child suckle up to 18 months. I told her it was 24 months in Islam. She stated she would not feel comfortable letting a child that old suck her breasts. I told her that is the problem, Islam is allowing something that isn't right. Furthermore, she is saying she is uncomfortable with Islam's teachings.

I then explained to her that is she was uncomfortable with letting someone 2 years of age suck her breasts, she was really about to get uncomfortable with Islam. I showed her from authentic, authoritative Muslim sources how Muhammad ordered women to let strange men suck their breasts - and that to somehow eliminate the sexual desire of the man!

Since we were on the topic of sucking in Islam I then went on to show her, still from authoritative Islamic sources, how Muhammad sucked and let boys and men suck his tongue.

Islam is contrary to logic and reason. So the only way a Muslim can respond to this information is to avoid dealing with it. Sadly, that is how this lady reacted. She did not at all address the copious references I provided her but gave some generic "you can't lean Islam from a book" response. So i asked her what books do her Imams, Sheikhs, Mufti's, etc. use to learn Islam other than the Qur'an, Ahadith, Sirat Rasul Allah, Tafsir, Tahrikh, and others like Reliance of the Traveller? It is from these sources I was providing her the references. Again, she did not one address any of the points I made about Muhammad ordering women to let strange men suck their breasts, and him sucking and letting boys and men suck his tongue.

Monica R. is right, and so is Tommy. Islam is against non-Muslims, against Muslim women, and against humanity. It is so sad that over a billion people follow the devil Muhammad. The EU Muslim Council is simply implementing the demonic teachings of Muhammad. if Muslims don't like that, they need to read the Muslim sources where these teachings come from and get their heads out of the sand with all the brainwashing they have been raised with and see Islam for the evil, man-made teaching it is.

pam w (139)
Wednesday October 3, 2012, 7:31 am
"Adoption, he added, was forbidden, because a woman might be seen in a state of undress by a child other than her biological offspring. And if a child is adopted, Mr. Hawari said they should not be given equal rights to biological children.

++++++++++++++++++++ What incredible CRUELTY! What IGNORANCE! TO HELL WITH THEM!

Beth S (330)
Wednesday October 3, 2012, 8:31 am
One more sign that the Islamists are off-the-wall. Islam is a perversion of morality.

Patricia Martin (19)
Wednesday October 3, 2012, 8:36 am
The way that Islamist scream and grunt and pound their chests if someone "insults" Muhammad, they display a lot of the behavior of orangutans, except orangutans show a lot more civility and kindness.

patrica and edw jones (190)
Saturday October 13, 2012, 6:55 pm
Mr.Hawari speaks sheer, unadulterated crapeesh.

pam w (139)
Saturday October 13, 2012, 7:33 pm
"Crapeesh".....reminds me of "baksheesh".....funny!

Noelle S (12)
Sunday September 1, 2013, 12:00 pm
I do not understand why adoption would be forbidden; adoption is allowed in the Qur'an. In fact, the Qur'an takes serious measures to PROTECT adopted and orphaned childrens' rights.

pam w (139)
Sunday September 1, 2013, 5:06 pm
Let me guess....the girls get to wait until they're TEN before they're forced into marriage?
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