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Saudi Arabia: More Than 5600 Child 'Brides' Basically Sold to Rich Old Men


World  (tags: Saudi Arabia, Pedophilia, Child 'Brides', Sex Abuse, crime, Islam, Mohammed, Aisha, children, humanrights, middle-east )

Rob and J
- 707 days ago - gulfnews.com
'there is no minimum age to 'marry' off little girls, they can still be in the cradle, says Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, a prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia's highest religious council' but they must be able to bear the weight of the 'husband'



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Rob and Jay B. (121)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 4:00 am
Many modern Muslims in the West find this Islamically sanctioned pedophilia to be embarrassing but no Muslim can really condemn the awful practice because Mohammed did it himself and he is the 'perfect man' whom all Muslims are to emulate:

“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract)
with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his
marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained
with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).” Sahih Bukhari, vol. 7, book 62, no. 88

Mohammed 'thighed' little Aisha, that is rubbed his penis between her thighs (Mufa' Khathat) and ejaculated on her, and presumably he did anything else other than vaginal intercourse with her until she turned a voluptuous 9y/o. She writes of having to clean off his semen after he went off to pray(Bukhari:V1B4N229-33). Islamic scripture makes clear that he lusted after this little girl even while she played with her dolls and his deity, Allah, condoned this. Mohammed was 53 when he lusted after and 'married' little 6y/o Aisha. (No wonder Muslims want to silence all criticism of Islam! There is no defense for this kind of tribal barbarism.)

Islamic scholars say a girl can be 'married' to some old pedophile at any age, even a still breast feeding infant, but as the great Islamic authority, Ayatollah R. Khomeinii, said, they cannot be vaginally penetrated until age 9 as Mohammed so nobly waited to do, BUT all other sexual acts, even sodomy, can be joyfully enjoyed. He even spent the night with a 4 y/o girl to 'enjoy her'. It is reported that her screams could be heard all night. It doesn't bear even thinking about what torture and pain that little child had to endure.
 

Carola May (20)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 4:02 am
I feel ill.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 4:49 am
Sadly noted.
 

Bernard Cronyn (31)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 5:00 am
But hang on folks; this is all happening in the USA's “best friend” in the Middle East. After all even the incumbent president of the USA bends his knee to this land's illustrious king, supplies his armies with military hardware and training and even has the US Navy constantly on patrol protecting the Saudi coastline. I am sure one or two of our informed Care2 Islamoluvies can tell us why there is nothing wrong with consummating marriages with pre-pubescent girls in this instance. Well I suppose the best one can say on this matter is that 9 year brides usually do not breed all that much.
 

Phyllis Baxter (40)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 5:08 am
Do not allow this vile ideology any further incursions into our societies. We have enough sadistic criminals to deal with without leagalizing child rape.
 

Ben Oscarsito (316)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 5:31 am
This makes me furious! ...I'm not allowed to use the words for what I think about those bastards!!!
 

Ge M. (218)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 5:38 am
In the countries where the Muslim Brotherhood have taken control, such as Egypt, the marriage age has dropped to 9 years from 18 years. In Iran they are dropping it to 8 years.

I have found comments by Muslims about how it is OK if a male baysitter has anal sex with the girl but not vaginal sex. If he does then he has to pay for medical repairs! (Huh?) The Koran also makes it clear that sex with a prepubescent boy is OK but you can kill anyone who commits homosexual sex. (Huh?) Martyrs actually have 76 virgin girls and 12 prepubesecnt boys in "Heaven".

So, we have clear comments from the Islamic holy books about how to have sex with babies and tiny girls as well as boys and support from senior clerics. Gee, what a civilised religion!

I am continually being told that Islam is a religion of peace and love. Yep, the wife/wives gets 5 monutes peace while the filty old paedophile makes love to a baby girl!

For those who want the truth by the girls themselves, start with "I am Nujood, aged 11 years and divorced" and note that, on Amazon, there are many similar. A few very brave and very lucky girls have managed to obtain some sort of freedom, how many millions more are suffering?
 

pam w. (191)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 6:47 am
We'll never know how many are suffering....because this data is suppressed!

USA women have just won enormous victories via the election....Saudi women seem destined to permanent slavery.
 

Tommy S. (11)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 7:23 am
noted and nauseous -- sick ,depraved motards
 

Beth S. (332)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 8:17 am
The Islamic affliction of depriving girls of their childhood and inflicting intercourse and pregnancy on them, which these little girls' bodies and minds are unready for and frequently die from is CRIMINAL child abuse. Yet the Saudis, and quite frankly, other Islamic countries continue to do with impunity.

No wonder they're so desperate to suppress the truth about their nefarious deeds and the nature of Islam.
 

. (7)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 8:46 am
Beth: This is true. But WHY do Saudis and other Muslims take little girls to be brides?

There are at least two answers to this, and both are the direct results of Islam, its founder and Sharia.

1) Islam allows Muslim men to take up to four (4) wives if they can afford to. With Saudi petrodollars making virtually every native Saudi Sunni rich, the Saudi men CAN and DO take numerous wives.

This creates a drastic shortage of available females to marry, so Saudi (and other Muslims) just keep looking for younger and younger girls, because the older ones have already been snapped up.

It's kind of like the fishing industry decline when all the bigger fish were overfished and then the fishers had to resort to smaller, less popular fish, and once THAT source was depleted, the fishing industry collapsed.

2) Muhammad, Islam's founder, took Aisha at the very young age of six to be one of his 13 wives (yes he took far more than were allowed to his followers). Since a 6-year-old could not support his weight, he "thighed" her and ejaculated on her legs until she was nine when she was a little bigger to fully consummate the marriage. Muhammad and his deeds, of course, is considered the "perfect man" and his deeds eminently emulatible.
 

Beth S. (332)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 9:20 am
Someone wrote:

Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil. -- Thomas Mann
 

Stan B. (123)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 3:28 pm
Just when you think you couldn't hear anything sicker about these 7th century troglodytes here's another gem.
It's a strange society which has no respect for either its women or it's children.
 

Elaine Al Meqdad (227)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 3:52 pm
Noted
 

Marie W. (66)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 4:19 pm
Pedophiles.
 

Hilary S. (45)
Sunday November 11, 2012, 11:20 pm
even ore appalling is that the girls for the most part expect nothing more.
 

Rob and Jay B. (121)
Monday November 12, 2012, 2:56 am
Not long ago there was a story about desperate girls fleeing with the refugees from Syria (Christians are being ethnically cleansed by the rebels there - they were tolerated under the Assads, themselves members of a minority religion) and how Arab Muslim men were in essence buying them for 'pleasure wives' and Muslim authorities were blessing this, as Mohammed did the same thing himself and allowed his thugs to do the same. In more civilized lands this is called sex slavery or prostitution, but in Islam it is condoned (Misyar in Sunni Islam and Mut'a in Shi'ia Islam).

If Mohammed, the 'perfect man' and example for all Muslims to emulate, did it, then it is OK to do. Allah, Islam's deity condoned everything (very conveniently) that Mohammed did, especially if it was done to non-Muslims.
 

Gloria picchetti (296)
Monday November 12, 2012, 4:04 pm
I can't read it. G-d forbid that anyone could sell their children.
 

Nancy Black (303)
Monday November 12, 2012, 11:17 pm
Noted, tweeted, tweeted, shared. There is no doubt that child marriage is child abuse. Don't care about the culture. The parents are selling their daughters as sex slaves. Sick, Sad, and Disgusting.
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 6:22 am
I am appalled that heathens should dare to follow the Holy Christian Bible both OT and NT. You know if you are going to attack the tenets of another Religion you might at least want to know what Your Religion Actually says on the matter and obviously you have never actually read the Bible you only parrot the crap fed you by those who use it for their political ends. Polygamy is the Law of The Land through out the Entire Old Testament and New Testament as is selling your children, male or female into slavery or the female children into marriage with older men. The ONLY place in the Entire Holy Christian Bible that mentions polygamy is 1 Timothy 3: 2,12 and 2 only refers to limiting the number of wives for certain Church Leaders and 12 refers specifically to deacons. You might also read "Der Wette II, 459,bid.,pp. 329-330; Martin Luther; "I confess that I can not forbid a person to marry several wives, for it does not contradict Scripture. ...he may do so in accordance with the word of God. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter.
there is also the fact thatPolygamyy was not illegal in the USA untill President Linclon signed the Morrill Anti-Bigamy Act on July 8, 1862.
The fact is you Islamophobic morons CIVIL law passed by the Government of Man made Slavery, Polygamy and Child Brides illegal BUT THEY ARE ALL STILL THE WORD OF YOUR GOD AND THE MORAL STANDARDS OF YOUR HOLY BIBLE. Your politically motivated hate and fear mongering are only matched by your intentional ignorance of your own religion.
 

Alexander Werner (53)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 10:20 am
Lloyd, try to ask any Christian priest a permission to marry two women at once and hear what he says what is the word of God.

When you address the whole crowd as "Islamophobic morons" you are really insulting those who disagree with the horrible practice of children prostitution, hiding in religious terms. Are you OK Saudi marriage to underage girls yourself?

Mohammed was allowed, and so are you?
 

Gene Jacobson (255)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 12:05 pm
"There have been 5,622 marriages where the bride is under the age of 14 in Saudi Arabia, said Ali Abdul Rahman Al Roumi, a social services academic at Imam Mohammad Bin Saud Islamic University, adding that specifying a legal age would not solve the problem, and may lead to “even bigger problems”.

Really, bigger problems? Bigger than state-sanctioned pedophilia? Just how would that happen if pedophilia were outlawed in Islam countries as it is in more modern ones? Yes, the OT did sanction all manner of things, but it was supplanted by the NT. And, nowhere is anything of the kind still sanctioned in this time. There are those who still consider the OT itself gospel, but they cherry pick verses to support whatever they are about. Reasonable people have long since decided that 2000 plus year old words need be updated to correlate to modern life. So, too, should Islam traditions be, but that is something they'll have to themselves, these supposedly large majority of moderate Muslims. That they let stand these doctrines from the 7th century says they agree with them, he who is silent is deemed to consent. The same goes for us, we don't use literal interpretations of the OT anywhere in our legal system, we are not silent, we do not consent. Seems clear enough to me.
 

Beth S. (332)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 3:07 pm
Lloyd,

You're so funny!
 

Rose NoFWDSPLZ (276)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 3:36 pm
Sickening
 

Gerry Moran (17)
Tuesday November 13, 2012, 3:39 pm
@ Lloyd

So.... people who oppose paedophilia are islamophobic morons? REALLY??

I'm with you on the bible stuff. Utter bollocks and vile with it. But most xtians don't actually follow that stuff, and I think that you're also right that most don't even know it. The thing is Lloyd, the west has moved on. Most people in the west are not interested in religion and our society is better for it. Wherever ANY religion has power, there is oppression and trouble. But the subject here is paedophilia in islam, which is sanctioned by islam, recommended by islam and it's prophet and deity. Opposing paedophilia is a good thing, regardless of whether or not those committing this vile crime are religiously motivated or not.

Are you saying that opposing paedophilia is WRONG?? And you're saying this because you want to defend the evil death cult, islam? Are you a paedophile?

If you were even half way decent, you'd be in agreement with everyone else here. If you're not a muslim, then you're one of these morons who defends it without actually thinking about it. With your post above, you have shown how low a defender of islam will stoop to attack those who oppose it, even though we have good reason to. You are ACTUALLY defending sexual abuse of children, rather than allowing people to 'get away with' criticising islam or even seeing islam for what it really isyourself, through a story like this one. You should be UTTERLY ashamed of yourself!! Though, clearly, you are incapable of that.

Answer the question now Lloyd.... are you saying that paedophilia is ok?
 

Stan B. (123)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 1:18 am
Are you still in the building, Lloyd? Your pathetic post speaks volumes about you.
 

Carol Dreeszen (365)
Wednesday November 14, 2012, 12:42 pm
These men are nothing but sick old dirty pedophiles with no concern for children or women..they all need to be hung up by their balls!
 

Bernard Cronyn (31)
Thursday November 15, 2012, 3:56 am
Lloyd; I have no idea of who or what you are (because you wear a virtual internet burqa) but your ideology is somewhat evidenced by your opinions. I follow no faith or ideology whatever but I do challenge gross imbalances and unadulterated baloney. Muslims are commanded to follow to the letter the words written in the Koran leaving very little latitude for “interpretation”. Interpretation in all but a very few fundamentalist religions in Christianity is the name of the game and even the fundamentalist types agree that the newer and gentler New Testament is the “gospel”. Bringing you kicking and screaming into the 2nd decade of the 21st century, please point out to me mainstream Christians practicing polygamy anywhere in the world today. Please point out to me any secular Western country that allows in its statutes Polygamy or for that matter permits adult men to marry and bed little prepubescent girls. If you actually read or understood the topic that is “Saudi Arabia: More Than 5600 Child 'Brides' Basically Sold to Rich Old Men” your passionate reaction has me wondering (and no doubt other readers) how do you get your kicks?
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 17, 2012, 10:23 pm
Sounds like our republicans.
 

Stan B. (123)
Sunday November 18, 2012, 2:08 am
Jason R. Are you really so ignorant to post this kind of dumb comment?
What has this thread got to do with Republicans?
 
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