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The American Dream As We Know It Is Obsolete, Dead as a Doornail


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: economy, republicans, propaganda, lies, middle class destruction, union busting, unions )

Norm
- 1258 days ago - alternet.org
The contention that the middle class is suddenly under attack is thoroughly flawed. This trend goes back more than 30 years to the savaging of private-sector unionism combined with deregulation, reloaded militarism and tax breaks for the rich. The current



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Allan Yorkowitz (453)
Saturday April 9, 2011, 12:49 pm
As I fall into this category, I take exception that the American dream is dead. Whose dream are you writing about ? The WWII veterans dream? I own a house, I have paid benefits. Yes, the rich receive too much, but compared with the rest of the world, I would say America's middle class stands up to, surpasses, most countries.
 

Norm C. (74)
Saturday April 9, 2011, 2:33 pm
I agree with most of the authors' points His initial premise is that there is nothing "sudden" about this attack on the middle class. I agree. What we are seeing is an attack on opposition. The current assault on liberty and freedom by the GOP in the House and the states is perhaps their final push to actually destroy all voices of opposition to their doctrines and propaganda.

My guess is that they have read the tea leaves of demography and realize that it is now or "never". "The brown people are coming! The brown people are coming!" "The young people are coming! The young people are coming!" "We have to take control now before they get here so they can't." If there is one thing conservatives cannot abide, it is real competition, competition that can defeat them.

So, we have this "sudden" burst of frenetic and undisguised fascism. You see, they thought that with George W Bush, Karl Rove and Dick Cheney at the helm, they had achieved their permanent RepubliCon majority. The election of Pres. Obama and 60 senators blew their minds. They launched a treasonous program of obstruction in order to prevent an economic recovery on the Dems watch to give them an advantage in the 2010 mid terms. They were successful in part by taking back the House. Now they wish to finish the job by taking back the senate and the presidency using the same tactics.

Knowing the utter fecklessness of the Dems, the quite correctly figured that now was their last, best opportunity to launch their coup d' etat. They have made their move.

This has been part of their plan for 80 years. Gen. Smedley Butler, by exposing the plot to topple Roosevelt, gave FDR the opportunity to beat the Great Republican Depression and forced that plan underground until after WWII. But as soon as the war was over, the plans were resurrected.

It started innocently enough with the NAM launching a PR blitz in 1947 to restore the public image of the business community which had performed so poorly during the Depression and tried to profit so greatly during the war. The political front during this initial phase was to go after the strike power of unions. Hence, they pushed through the Taft-Hartley Act also in 1947.

The Cold War created an uneasy "cease fire" from 1949 through the 60s as the establishment reactionaries did not want to give labor any excuse to go all radical and socialist on them while they built their reputations and consolidated their power. Milton Friedman, Friedrich von Hayek and Ayn Rand continued to build the momentum for the next stage, particularly through the Chicago School of economics.

The next major stage began with Supreme Court Justice Lewis Powell's memo in 1971 to the US Chamber of Commerce outlining his plan to launch the "think tanks", establish media domination and infiltrate the colleges and universities. The business community stepped up their campaign against labor and the middle class in 1974 seeing an opportunity for huge profits and more power in Nixon's dismantling of the Bretton Woods Agreements and eliminating the gold support for the dollar. This was pushed forward by their fear and uncertainty over the oil boycott, price shocks and recession of '73 - '75. It was at this point that management and ownership pulled out all the stops, took complete control of the levers of economic power and went after the worker no matter the color of his or her collar.

This was the kickoff for two major attacks: 1. Nonunion wages were diminished as all productivity gains were held back from labor and 2. Unionized wages and benefits were diminished under threat of closing plants, which were frequently closed, anyway.

The next wave came with the election of Ronald Reagan and his killing of PATCO and his refusal to enforce labor and anti-trust laws, not to mention his infamous FCC chief's killing of media regulations, delivering all politicians into the open arms of BIG money. Alan Greenspan figures significantly in all of this as well. He was the head of Reagan's commission to "save" Social Security. It was this commission that finally transformed the US government from Robin Hood into the Sheriff of Nottingham by launching the greatest tax increase in US history on the poor and the middle class -- the poor and middle class payroll tax increase for Social Security whose real purpose was to disguise the size of Reagan's deficits and the abject failure of supply-side, voodoo economics.

Thus we arrive at the present, the final push in transforming America into a corporate state, a fascist state controlled by BIG money, whether personal or corporate.

The point at which I completely disagree with the author is his contention that the US should NOT be trying to compete with China and others in manufacturing green energy systems and other products. His point is that they are far more efficient and have greater technology than we do. That is pure BS. Where did their technology come from? From us. The US was the global leader in windmill and solar power until Reagan shut it down. Why does China make so many winddmill and solar components? They do not accept manufactured imports. Why is China the largest market for General Motors' vehicles? China is a closed market, as are Japan and Korea as well as Italy.

He suggests that any attempt to equalize market access will cause a trade war. What in hell does he think we are in now? It is an economic contest based on trade. This trade war is merely unacknowledged here in the US. But it is a trade war none the less.

I must, however, agree with him on his point about Wisconsin and the recall elections. The recall process merely further entrenches the existing structures of political power and the marginalization of the populace. A general strike would take longer to prepare and make succeed, but it would build a stronger and better informed labor movement as well as a better educated public. It would be a better teaching moment.

So, what is our way forward?

In a nutshell I believe we must be on the lookout for teaching moments wherever they occur. We can at any time pick up a book or find a good documentary to better understand the world that is being forced upon us. We must work continually to educate, to inform, not only ourselves, but also family and friends. This will not be easy, but GOP desperation and overreach will give us openings to arouse the apathetic and disconnected from their slumbers. RepubliCons will give us our preliminary opportunities to act -- to rally, to demonstrate, to boycott, to sit-in, to strike. If we stay active, others will join us, maybe not next week or next year, but eventually and probably sooner rather than later as the Greedy Oily Profiteers make more and more Americans' lives harder and harder.

And they surely will. After all, they want it all.
 

Norm C. (74)
Saturday April 9, 2011, 3:16 pm
Allen,

Your comment is off-base for two reasons: 1. Your facts are wrong and 2. your frame of reference is inappropriate and not representative.

The American middle class is declining rapidly. The American middle class is the poorest, receiving the smallest share of the American pie since the end of WWII. America's middle class is the worst off of ANY First World country.

Your personal situation regarding your home and pension, while obviously completely significant to you, is utterly irrelevant to the point unless your situation is typical. Well, your situation is far from typical.

A very small percentage of Americans approaching retirement age have a pension that is worth a damn. A very, very small percentage of Americans approaching retirement have a 401(k) or an IRA with enough to live on. A small percentage of Baby Boomers have a home that is paid for. What was fairly common for our parents who retired in the 70s through the mid 80s is almost unheard of today.

If you are a Boomer and have a good pension, the chances are that you either work for the government or are in one of the big unions. The other probability is that your employer went broke but his pension plan was guaranteed by the federal Pension Benefit Guarantee Corp. Other than CEOs and other corporate officers, almost no one else has a real pension. If you own your house free and clear, you bought it decades ago and never moved. Of course, there are exceptions to this. You could have started to work for Microsoft in 1982. You could have gone to work on Wall Street as a trader 20 years ago. You could have been a star in Hollywood or been a durable sports star in the last 30 years.

But none of that is representative of the American middle class. The middle class for new graduates was frozen in the 70s and dismantled beginning in the 80s, especially through the mergers and acquisitions frenzy and the junk bonds craze. That blossomed into wholesale destruction of the middle class at the turn of the century.
 

Dave Kane (308)
Saturday April 9, 2011, 4:10 pm
The traitor Reagan started the -- ok not started, but restarted the ball the ball rolling -- by busting PATCO letting the country know that not only was it ok to bust unions, but it was your duty as an american. What an asshole.

The American dream is just that . . . a dream.

A sham they have been selling us for their own profit.

Keep your own dreams and don't buy their BS stories.
 

Dandelion G. (381)
Sunday April 10, 2011, 8:00 pm
The American Dream is dead for it is abandoning its youth, its elderly and its poor. It is imprisoning millions of its citizens for the most trivial of offenses.

It is suffocating its middle class, turning its back on newcomers and giving corporations and fat-cat financiers obscene tax breaks.

It has an unbreakable addiction to foreign oil, values clean air and water only when they donít get in the way of profit making, and cares little that its infrastructure is crumbling one bridge at a time.

It cares little that our world standing has been undercut by reckless foreign adventures, government officials who are habitual liars, and the use of torture.

It has used the 9/11 attacks not to reaffirm our core values but to undermine them.

It has a Congress that is borderline dysfunctional, a president who promised hope and change but has pretty much delivered more of the same, and a Supreme Court that is a helpmate to the powerful and wealthy.

And that is just a few of the reasons.

 

H Nick H. (1826)
Sunday April 10, 2011, 9:27 pm
It's sad but true. It is just a dream. It's been constantly erroded since Regan, and has gotten worse over the years, especially under Bush W. Piece by piece, it's been deluted and drained until only the upper 2% have any sort of a "dream." What we used to call the American Dream.

We, as a people, the 98% of US citizens need to stand up and DO SOMETHING. Right now the tea-baggers are running our country amoke, and destroying things we took over 200 years to build up. They do this in the name of God (or Jesus), and think they are doing "right." Well, to me it's too far right, and nothing like Jesus would ever do.

We are like a flock of sheep, being mislead and directed by the 95% of all media. It's difficult to find the truth with the likes of R Murdock (Fox) in control of what we see and hear. But, we do need to stand up for our rights, what little we have left.

Or, just sit back and do nothing, and let the religious right make your decisions as to how you need to live your life...and give tribute and cash to the upper 2%. Looks like a false God to me.
 

Linda G. (187)
Sunday April 10, 2011, 9:44 pm
A lengthy article but very thought provoking. And Norm, once again I am in complete agreement with your first comment here. We are in a trade war and we do have the technology to set up alternate energy industries if we will ever really get behind it.
 

Brian M. (153)
Monday April 11, 2011, 12:27 pm
The empire is in decline. Long live the empire.
 

valerie K. (0)
Monday April 11, 2011, 2:01 pm
The rich are getting richer the poor are getting poorer...and there isn't much in between..
 

Past Member (0)
Monday April 11, 2011, 2:03 pm
Thanks to the gutting of the Fairness Act. The right controls the media and has created a fearing monster known as your neighbor. They side with the brain washers and laugh at those that would save their sorry asses. Nothing matters but the wars.

Nya, nya, nya but who will keep us safe? Puleeez!
 

donald Baumgartner (4)
Monday April 11, 2011, 2:38 pm
Dream? WHAT DREAM?
 

Charles Wasserman (17)
Monday April 11, 2011, 2:57 pm
THE AMERICAN DREAM IS NOT DEAD. THE NEED TO WORK HARD AND GET A GOOD EDUCATION STIIL LEADS TO THE AMERICAN DREAM BEING ACHIEVED. IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY THE GOVERNMENT CONTRIBUTES TO EDUCATION, WITHOUT THE PARENTS INVOLVMENT IN ASSURING THEIR CHILDREN ATTEND SCHOOL AND APPLY THEMSELVES TO THIR STUDIES THEN EDUCATION IN THIS COUNTRY IS A FAOLURE.
IT IS NOT A FAILURE OF THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IUT IS FAILURE OF ADEQUATE PARENTING.
 

Fred Krohn (34)
Monday April 11, 2011, 3:22 pm
I've read too much Kurt Vonnegut to not notice that the liberals are stealing the 'American Dream'. Whether it's garbage like the 'Unfairness Doctrine' on the media, 'Net Neutrality' with a killswitch and government censor on the Internet, liberal-slant news and programming on TV, or sleazy attempts to foist constitutional violations like gun control, Obamacare, or a 'national religion' past the Injustice Department, I'm quite aware of the whole thing and condemn the liberals for pushing it and the 'religious wrong' conservative branch for injecting the rest. Everything done since Bush Senior is WRONG and should be retroactively repealed, including DOMA, DADT, DMCA, NAFTA, GATT, RealID act, USA Patriot Act, DHS, TSA, all gun laws, Obamacare, and all responses to the Twin Tower attack. Kick that Jeremiah Wrong phony reverend and Jimmy Phelps from Kansas out of the USA on the same slow boat to Communist China, that's where scum like them belong, and send Sharpton, Roberts, Jesse Jackson, Falwaell's brat kid, Robertson, and Swaggart with them.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday April 11, 2011, 3:59 pm
FRED!!!
Thom's blog
400 super rich Americans control more wealth in the country than 150 million other Americans
Even though a government shutdown was averted - working class people will still be screwed over in America. A new report by Wealth for the Common Good shows that the 400 richest people in America - our nation's oligarchs - have never had it so good and are paying the lowest taxes ever in their lifetimes.

Those 400 super rich Americans control more wealth in the country than 150 million other Americans, and yet are effectively taxed at a rate of just over 16% while the rest of spay up to 35% plus higher levels of sales, property, and other taxes. To put that in perspective These 400 rich oligarchs effective tax rate has dropped by more than 2/3 since Dwight Eisenhower's administration - while the rate for working people has nearly doubled. Rich people get a 2/3 tax cut over the last 50 years - working people get screwed with a 100% tax hike.

To make matters worse - average CEO pay increased dramatically last year - despite an 20% real under- and un-employment rate plaguing the rest of us. And yet - now Congress says they're gonna pass a budget that cuts federal education, health care, and energy assistance programs for working class Americans while doing nothing to make America's oligarchs pay their fair share or sacrifice even one damn thing.

-Thom
 

Past Member (0)
Monday April 11, 2011, 4:02 pm
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en&q=fox+makes+you+stupid

In eight of the nine questions below, Fox News placed first in the percentage of those who were misinformed (they placed second in the question on TARP). Thatís a pretty high batting average for journalistic fraud. Here is a list of what Fox News viewers believe that just aint so:

* 91 percent believe the stimulus legislation lost jobs
* 72 percent believe the health reform law will increase the deficit
* 72 percent believe the economy is getting worse
* 60 percent believe climate change is not occurring
* 49 percent believe income taxes have gone up
* 63 percent believe the stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts
* 56 percent believe Obama initiated the GM/Chrysler bailout
* 38 percent believe that most Republicans opposed TARP
* 63 percent believe Obama was not born in the U.S. (or that it is unclear)

The conclusion is inescapable. Fox News is deliberately misinforming its viewers and it is doing so for a reason. Every issue above is one in which the Republican Party had a vested interest. The GOP benefited from the ignorance that Fox News helped to proliferate. The results were apparent in the election last month as voters based their decisions on demonstrably false information fed to them by Fox News.

Liberal slant neeeewwwws! Pulleeeze! That's a whopping 8% of the media!
Proof?
http://www.projectcensored.org/censorship/corporate-media-ownership/
 

Bruce Van Tassell (7)
Monday April 11, 2011, 5:11 pm
How about keeping the dream alive, make it joining with the rest of the world in doing more to save the planet. Re cycle, re use, invest in safe green alternative energy now!
 

John S. (304)
Monday April 11, 2011, 5:20 pm
Thanks, Interesting article.
 

Jonjon Hoy (146)
Monday April 11, 2011, 5:48 pm
Were in a twilight world and anything can happen when the rich start loosing their profit and feel the recession crunch. We can handle the recession but the rich panic of it's loss.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Monday April 11, 2011, 7:10 pm
I never served in the military, nor do I get a pension. I worked for several small now defunct companies. I and many of my single women friends who never had children and no one left alive to "help them out $" are seeing a bleak future. We are feeling the limitations of arthiritis and assorted maladies from bodies winding down. The feared baglady syndrome is upon us. Maybe that's the curse for not marrying well or at least for not staying with emotionally or physically abusive husbands. Would be nice to have pedicures, salon treatments and ride around in a golf cart, travel the world, or even to own a home. I never ever imagined this would happen to me. What I have left is a tad bit of faith.
 

William Y. (54)
Monday April 11, 2011, 7:13 pm
@ Jason R. I knew that Fox news watchers were extremely ill informed, but I didn't realize it was as bad as those numbers show. Obviously, stupidity rules in the country.
 

Marilyn K. (51)
Monday April 11, 2011, 7:14 pm
The GOP is a winner in the game of politics, turning the "American Dream" into a Nightmare!
 

April Thompson (2)
Monday April 11, 2011, 8:06 pm
The American Dream! What American Dream?
 

Ray M. (0)
Monday April 11, 2011, 8:39 pm
You've got to be kidding. Typical pack of lies by the right wingnuts.
 

Eternal Gardener (743)
Monday April 11, 2011, 9:32 pm
Soo.... change is in the air! Good, for the american dream is based on capitalism and whichever way you look at it capitalism is totally unsustainable!
 

Hartson Doak (33)
Monday April 11, 2011, 11:09 pm
The two dominant systems Capitalism and communism are defective. Communism forces the individual to be a slave to the state. Capitalism is based on greed. Neither is sustainable. Without a sustainable cooperative nature with the people and the environment every attempt to build a society is doomed to FAILURE. Capitalism is based on consumption and waste. This is doomed. The resources are limited. They will run out. The American Dream is based on this false assumption. The dream was destined to become a nightmare.
 

Charles Thomas (1)
Monday April 11, 2011, 11:17 pm

We are pretty much on our own. Time to organize.

I say this because word has come in that our so-called "progressive" Democratic Party has sold us our again in the hope of placating the onslaught of the Tea Party Republicans.

"Oh please don't hurt me, oh please, oh please!"

Another useless "bone" has been sacrificed, something I am sure is totally foreign in value to those who live the good life within the Washington beltway.

The wolves--you know, the beautiful creatures we spent millions on to re-establish in the American west. Our party has gifted them to those gentle western state governors (Governor John Tester who is up for re-election) and vested interests which want to wipe our wolves from the face of the earth. "E-haw boys, get yours before they're gone--gonna stuff mine and put it above the beer frig."

Whether it is unions, protecting our citizens from predatory banking practices, or in fairly taxing our more privileged citizens our liberal representatives as a whole have again proven to lack spine, remaining scattered and indecisive, and typically putting their own interests above our country and its people. Ethics, principals--foreign concepts (after all one must be realistic mustn't one).

Have all our monies, plus interest, been repaid from all those bailouts using our tax money? Or for that matter has all the monies "borrowed" and replaced by IOU's from social security and many of our other funds been repaid? Do any of our representatives from either side of the isle think we have forgotten?

Both the Clinton administration and the Bushes allowed such practices for the benefit of "magic with numbers" to balance budgets on paper if not in reality.

The old Roman Empire was once a republic. When they deteriorated to useless self-serving bickering
as their frontiers burned the door was opened, with the support of their people, for dictatorship. Nazi Germany, under the abuse of the European politicians and the poverty brought on by the Great Depression became fertile ground for street thugs dressed in "brown shirts" who terrorized their people into the complacency which brought on the glory of the Third Reich and the Waffen SS.

Unless action is taken we are no different and we will reap what we sow.

"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
II Chronicles 7:14
 

Diane Wayne (52)
Monday April 11, 2011, 11:17 pm
Could it be that this is one of the reasons? Please sign my petition:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-profanity-in-american-entertainment/
 

Norm C. (74)
Monday April 11, 2011, 11:25 pm
While I have no love for state communism, I should point out that communism does not require state or national organizing principles. After all, if you actually look at the biblical stories of Christ and the apostles, they practiced communism during his ministry and the apostles after his death. Communism and socialism work marvelously, but only so long as they are NOT engaged at a statist level. To paraphrase Dick Cheney, they work as a matter of personal virtue.

A mixed economy works really well at a state or global level. But no number, large or small, of business entitiesor individuals can be allowed to wield significant economic power over their employees, their neighbors, their competitiors, their governments whether local or national or multinational. Allowing such power is the death of economies, of democracies, of societies, of a sustaining natural environment. It has always been thus.

BIG equals catastrophe no matter what the political or economic organizing principle.
 

Colleen L. (2)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 1:11 am
Interesting article and posts. Thanks Norm
 

Penelope P. (222)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 4:30 am
I went into mourning when Communism went down. Not that I liked Communism and was not afraid of what Stalin had done ,but because I knew the collateral we had in the threat that if things were not organised well for us we just might take over organising ourselves no longer seemed real.ly convincing.
What has happened since has confirmed my grief.

It was exaberated when I learnt that if the North Sea OIl had not been found Thatchers privatisation policies would have left Britian bankrupt.and that countries like Brazil and many South American countries who tried the trickle down effect amply illustrated that that did not work iether and was bull shit.

The one encouraging political thing I did notice was that socialism works fine-Sweden even did well during the last economic downturn
 

. (0)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 5:39 am
Interesting.....thanks
 

Al Baars (27)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 9:35 am
American Dream, hell.

The GOP, the media, and the 'tea party' are doing the bidding of their multinational corporate masters. The GOP is broadcasting the message loud and clear, that America is in decline, not so much a statement of fact as it is a plan.

They have done a good job of dividing the nation, turning us against each other. I believe they plan to go further. Their stated goals of eliminating programs and regulatory agencies that benefit Americans, while cutting funding to individual states seems about right if you plan on chopping up the country into small pieces that can then be consumed by multinational corporations.The one sacred cow, the military, could then be used to support corporate exploitation of individual states.

They've really put their foot on the accelerator on this in the last few years, maybe the 2008 elections scared them into moving faster with their plans than they would have liked.
 

J. R. (0)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 9:47 am
We have to be ready to flex as all dream do. Life is not chiselled in stone; we must go with the movement of social and (now more than ever) environmental changes. Holding on to the past will never work.
 

Oceana Ellingson (14)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 10:36 am
So many American dreams have died, I don't care about the dreams that this government wishes this country to be, but the dream of the people have died, which is beyond sad. I wish it was still like it used to be. Kids didn't grow up too fast, yet they matured and knew how to take care of themselves. In this society now days, it's all about staying indoors communicating over the internet, phone, texting, etc. I'm thankful for it for things such as this, but it's not good in a lot of ways. You can't gain trust that way. We go to big industries now days to shop, instead of making things ourselves and trading with others, you gain trust that way. People are so full of hate towards one another now days, don't you see that we are all one? We are all the same species. We're so overpowered by now days media that hardly anyone stops and questions anything. What happened to curiosity and interest? Even schools beat the wonder out of children and turn them into working robots. What kind of life is that? What do you learn out of it? What lessons? How is money such a big part of this world now. You work your whole life for money, and you die making money. It's horrible. People need to wake up and start making a change.
 

Rolland Nadjiwon (6)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 12:29 pm
What American Dream? All we have is an American nightmare...
 

Charles Thomas (1)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 2:03 pm
Extremely insightful article and follow-up comments.

I am wondering about those who go on and on about the good old days of communism. Judging from the mass exodus from those countries and the destruction of their culture and environments, plus the fact that the 20th century saw more people slaughtered in the name of social reform than at any time in the history of the world indicates again a basic problem.

It does not matter what "ism" one promotes. It doesn't matter what "party" one swears by. The problem is the human condition. Because basically wherever we go, there we are.

Here is the basic problem based on a misconception that leads to eventual destruction.
The timeline goes like this:

(1) 19th century liberalism led to relativism and pluralism (in the USA permeating politics and religion in our society).

(2) This leads to subjectivism (what is right for you is right, what is right for me is right--no falsehood, no truth).

(3) This leads to the destruction of the family and in turn to society (no absolutes, no ethics, no law, anarchy).

(4) And finally to the destruction of the individual (no freedom, no hope, no future).

Bottom line is that any system of government can work so long as one understands that it is impossible to cover everything and anything fairly and impartially by law alone. The gaps must be covered by a believe within each of us of an absolute what is "right" and what is "wrong" and a willingness to conduct our lives accordingly. A never varying ultimate truth. So long as man refuses to accept and acknowledge this as fact the end result will always be the same.

For those who scoff at this and say man is corrupt and will never conduct his life with such high ideals--I agree.

Man alone, as his own god, cannot.

 

Wild Thang (9)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 4:09 pm
Everything is obsolete... it is approaching the time of learning to live within the means of our planet sustainably in an eco-economically stressed world..the old world model of sending your poor and weary over-population at socail buildout to the new world yearning to be free to be sent out as men, women, and children to be sacrificed as decoys for Indian fire so we have an excuse to wipe them out is over...moving to Iraq won't solve it...

Nor is refusing to acknowledge climate change coming because there is no doubt the CIA and military are already moving our society to accomodation with thi by snatching up control of scarce resources...
problem is our world will no longer accomodate vast centralized wealth and no one to do the work to pay the taxes or buy the products or pfoduce the myriad facets of our mass society and be sustainable... if they go ahead with allowing vast populations to be wiped out in disasters and wars there won't be people to keep it going... if there is enough people to keep the system of over-consumption going there won't be enough resources to support them...

The individualistic law of the jungle doesn't work when cooperation is needed to keep things rolling and cooperative society will not function with the law of the jungle over-accumulation of weath and the over-consumption of cheap worthless trinkets and waster resources on wars of destruction and dominance and submission...

We are being socially engineered for the emerging new world but it is engineering favoring a rich aristocracy that cannot be sustained...
We learn how to live cooperatively and sustainably or we will be the cause of our own extinction being unable to change our systems with the demands of our planet...
 

Barbara Erdman (63)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 5:36 pm
Thanx Norm and All Comments respectfully noted :-0
 

Norm C. (74)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 6:06 pm
It's kind of funny that we have in the English language all these little phrases that have developed over the centuries or decades that are based on very, very old understandings of reality.

Charles used one, "the law of the jungle". The truth is that "the law of the jungle" is not any kind of law or common behavior in any jungle. We talk about "survival of the fittest" as the defining truth of Darwin's theory of evolution, yet he only used the phrase twice in the whole book, whereas he used the word "co-operate" over a hundred times to describe natural behavior.

We make talk about Neanderthal man as being this violent, brutish semi-savage. The reality is becoming clearer all the time that he was far from that stereotype. He was probably less brutish and cruel than Cromagnon from whom we more directly are descended.

While I am on the topic of rhetorical inaccuracies, I'll just wind up here with the comment that the Greedy Oily Perverts & Profiteers seem never to bother with accuracy. We know that John Kyl recently claimed that "over 90% of what Planned Parenthood does is abortions." Of course, that is pure BS since only about 3% is associated with referrals for abortion services. But the funniest thing is what Kyle's office said when the lie was called; they said, "It wasn't meant to be a factual comment." Huhh??? So he's saying that he may lie at any moment, and we should just accept that? Or what about Paul Ryan's budget plan? It turns out that the tax cuts almost completely negate ALL the "savings" from his draconian cuts.

The fascists are shameless, cruel and heartless. The fascist GOP and the Blue Dog and ConsevaDems who give them cover must be removed from office.

 

William Y. (54)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 8:45 pm
@ Daaa P. Did you ever stop to think that not all who are out of work are pot smoking losers. There are those who have physical and/or mental problems, there are those who just can't find work since there is a shortage of jobs.
 

Norm C. (74)
Tuesday April 12, 2011, 11:53 pm
I see we have a new troll, not as smart as the old one.
 

Edward M. (8)
Wednesday April 13, 2011, 6:06 am
The fact is, for the vast majority of Americans, it was never alive.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday April 13, 2011, 9:20 am
Edward. It was alive and well from the 70s on back. Reagan's henchmen helped to destroy iy. Ever republican since, made sure it would die.

Sweden vs USA
Ikea in sweden gives 3 weeks vacation a year and pays an average $19 an hour.
Ikea USA Gives 12 days vacation and pays an average $8 an hour.

I'd say the "socialists" have their sh*t together and the USA SUCKS!
 

Kathy Javens (104)
Wednesday April 13, 2011, 9:53 am
Noted. The American dream IS gone. And it seems as though there is nothing we can do to get it back. Thanks alot to all of the political a**holes past and present who are responsible for this. Your future and the future of your families may be secure, but what about OUR future generations???
 
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