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What's the Appeal in Hunting or Trapping a Wolf?


Environment  (tags: minnesota, wolf hunts, amy klobuchar, mark dayton, al franken, americans, corruption, democrats, ethics, government, Govtfearmongering, lies, obama, elections, candidates, propaganda, republicans, politics, humans, habitat, wildlife, environment, wildanim )

SUE
- 676 days ago - minnesota.publicradio.org
On a deserted logging road sometime before midnight about 30 years ago, I pointed my nose at the night sky and howled. Beside me,..... COMMENTS can be made at the end of this story, please comment!



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SUE H. (167)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 10:34 am

PLEASE MAKE A COMMENT AT THE END OF THE ARTICLE....FOR THE WOLVES....SPEAK OUT PLEASE AND IF YOU ARE ON FACEBOOK, PLEASE JOIN THIS CAUSE...copy and paste link:
http://www.causes.com/causes/785917-saving-the-great-lakes-wolves-of-minnesota-wisconsin-and-michigan-boycott?utm_campaign=home
 

SUE H. (167)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 10:37 am
MY COMMENT ON PAGE......

I made a cause on facebook causes to oppose the wolf hunts in MN, WI, MI, to boycott all tourism and products, so the money they thought they would gain is not going to happen, here is the link, join my cause....we arent backing down!!
http://www.causes.com/causes/785917-saving-the-great-lakes-wolves-of-minnesota-wisconsin-and-michigan-boycott?utm_campaign=home

more than five thousand have taken the pledge....and lots more actions on here check it out.....now, is it really worth it to continue with this sadistic hunt amy klobuchar and her war against wolves is really backfiring on her and everyone in the world has seen this cause...all over the internet!

Posted by Sue Harrington from MN | September 4, 2012 12:21 PM
 

mary f. (175)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 11:05 am
no idea hunters are heartless
 

Teresa W. (652)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 11:08 am
very sad
 

Patricia Myers (77)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 11:37 am
noted and shared TY Sue
 

SUE H. (167)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 12:20 pm

HERE IS A PETITION FOR MINNESOTA WOLVES...PLEASE NOTE AND SIGN AND SHARE....TY
copy and paste link....
http://www.care2.com/news/member/391221861/3444915
 

Dave C. (209)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 1:00 pm
I wonder the same thing about hunting bears...especially the research bears which are followed by the NABC in Ely, MN, also.......of course, not sure the appeal in hunting and killing anything anymore...especially when they bait, use other animals to track and subdue, use high powered long-range weapons, etc.....
 

Michael M. (58)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 1:22 pm
Don't back down, Sue.

There are some good comments made at the end of the article, well worth reading.

I added one partially concerning Dr Mech and his position, mentioning that 40 years or so is too short a time to resume human persecution under any circumstances.

Relevant to the international community on care2 is the common insistence of some persecutors who pursue rural lifestyles necessarily linked to the urban areas they claim to detest, that they should be allowed to control their environs.
American ranchers invaded this continent , in recent history, only taking over because of the massive numbers of immigrants and the determination of persons controlling large militaries, analogous to andrew Jackson, famed by portraits on the $20 bill.
That man fought against another colonial power with the aid of Indians, and then without compunction, agitated and used his ensuing power to demean and displace even those who allied with him, persecuting and cheating them, sending them in cruel fashion to places far from their homes, allowing starvation and extremely uncivilized treatment.

This sort of sociopathy shared by an invasive culture, was even more virulent toward native species, especially one which kept a balance (overabundance is NOT balance) among species in the food web.

That even scientists such as Mech, who might take different views, if they were not so thoroughly acculturated into what has been called speciescentrism, are affected, shows that even so-called objectivity should be seriously questioned. On the other hand, Mech illustrates ecological balance, as he does strive to find a place for the wolf in the overburgeoned present human-populated and -exploited world.

To return to my antipathy for ranchers who claim moral and physical control, I'd like to mention that 3/4 of native indigenous american tribes must live in urban areas to survive, due precisely to the continuously disingenuous and when possible through force, cruel practices of those who unethically supported them, and the inordinate fear they promote (there is strong support for the notion that with cruelty comes intractable fear).

Those ranchers, are as one commentator below the article points out of modern hunters, that their machines and aesthetics are all urban, all the time.

Ranchers and their personable kids who hunt, wolves, coyotes, kill rattlesnakes, have a strong revenge motivation in their character, when known and questioned, so don't let their facades fool you.

Again to my term sociopathic: I know some hunters, and it is astonishing to me that these all have one thing in common - their joy in nature is only associated with their acquisitions in hunting seasons.

The Inuit (generalized here - they are of different names) once lived in balance with the fauna upon which they preyed. When they first acquired guns, they shot EVERYTHING in sight. It made for additional pressure to urbanize more, as they did with modern paraphernalia and interaction.

White hunters would continue to do the same, as they have down generations, except that their urban culture manages them by restricting their killing. They hate that, and thus form a certain political influence.

Lord Berners: "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." The Hopi have a word, koyaanisqatsi, meaning out of balance. The wolf cannot exist out of balance in nature, and his kind both attempts and is subject to natural balance.

Wisdom would seem to be involved with not aspiring to exceed balance oneself, or between ones kind and all others, or any other.

It does not take humans to balance wolves with all life.

What will bring us into balance?
 

Brian M. (145)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 1:26 pm
Another related issue is the Idaho ballot initiative that will enshrine the right of citizens to hunt, fish, and TRAP. See: http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Idaho_Hunting_and_Fishing_Amendment,_HJR_2_(2012)

We need to start publicizing this and educating the public now to block this frivolous amendment.
 

Michael M. (58)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 1:56 pm
New Mexico Dept of game andFish are somewhat rabid in support of trapping.

Trapping was almost the biggest ecological destroyer of the European entry into North America. To the indigenous, it was a quick way of acqiring the new strange tech wealth. It of course caused too much interaction and exposed them to introduced diseases of groups, as well as unbalanced the living systems. Even the bison declined from trading by the late 1700s, saved only temporarily by human disease.

And of course trapping is incredibly cruel, holding animals for starvation, hypothermia, so that many do not die by the gun, which trappers kill. There is a lot of poison surreptitiously used, as well.


Re the article above, and its commentators: Dr. L. David Mech's opinions are the result of his personal mien and upbringing. For an alternative scientist's views and advocacy, explore Jamie Rapoport Clark, former Director of USFWS and a biologist as well. She is prez of Defenders of Wildlife, which group has done a lot to explore and offer nonlethal response to human-wolf interaction.
 

SUE H. (167)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 3:45 pm
THANKS SO MUCH MICHAEL AND BRIAN....LOVE THE COMMENTS...THANKS AGAIN.....AND WILL GET ON THE IDAHO...ONE....TY
 

Shirley S. (172)
Tuesday September 4, 2012, 9:59 pm
Trapping & Hunting! TWO WORDS THAT I HATE!!!!
 

Carol H. (229)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 5:09 am
noted. I detest hunters!!
 

Ruth S. (313)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 7:55 am
Hunters beware for there are forces hunting for you, and its NOT human!!
 

Nimue P. (216)
Wednesday September 5, 2012, 5:01 pm
STOP THE KILLING! IT'S WRONG! LET THEM LIVE!
 
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