Sunday August 2, 2009, 9:29 pm
Thanks Terry

Sunday August 2, 2009, 9:58 pm
I don't know if I believe this guy.

Monday August 3, 2009, 9:04 am
How about we stop being charged for the money that is printed. See the movie Zeitgeist or Countdown to tyranny for details.

Monday August 3, 2009, 12:29 pm
Yes we know Health Care will need to be payed for but we cannot allow those that will scare us into think that a public health care will cost us much more than we are paying to private insurance, I have private insurance and it is a good one but ask me about the rising of the cost every year regardless of our employment statues I am unemployed (retired) and my health care, keeps scraping for a living.

Monday August 3, 2009, 12:34 pm
Linda Bergthold: So it Begins -- the August Attack on Health Care Reform

I received a mass email that exhorted the recipients to pray because of the disaster to befall on us if health care reform is passed. I went through every charge and answered it.
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Page 29 lines 4-16 -- Your Health Care is RATIONED.
WOW. NOT AT ALL! THIS LANGUAGE SAYS THAT YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO PAY MORE
THAN A SET AMOUNT EACH YEAR FOR YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE. RIGHT NOW YOU
ALL HAVE MAXIMUM AMOUNTS THAT YOUR INSURANCE WILL PAY ANNUALLY AND THEN
YOU'RE ON YOUR OWN. THE NEW LAW WILL PROTECT YOU FROM HAVING TO PAY
MORE THAN SET AMOUNTS. YOU SHOULD BE SO LUCKY!!
Page 50 Section 152 -- Health Care will be provided to ALL non-U.S. citizens, illegal or otherwise.

THERE IS NOTHING ON PAGE 50 OR SECTION 152 ABOUT ILLEGALS. ILLEGALS
WILL NOT BE COVERED. THIS SECTION PROHIBITS DISCRIMINATION AGAINST
PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR RELIGION OR GENDER OR ANYTHING ELSE.
.....

Page 59 lines 21-24 -- Government will have direct access to your bank accounts for electrical funds transfers.
NOT THE GOVERNMENT. AGAIN. YOU WILL HAVE TO APPROVE AN ELECTRONIC (NOT
ELECTRICAL!) FUND TRANSFER IF YOU WANT TO PAY YOUR PREMIUMS THAT WAY.
IT WILL BE THE PRIVATE INSURERS WHO PROCESS THIS, LIKE BLUE CROSS,
AETNA, ETC. HOW DO YOU DO IT NOW?

Page 65 Section 164 -- A payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions and community organizations (ACORN).
NO. THIS IS A PROGRAM WHERE THE GOVERNMENT WILL HELP EMPLOYERS WHO
PROVIDE RETIREE MEDICAL BENEFITS TO PAY FOR THOSE BENEFITS IF THEY
EXCEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT. IT'S A REINSURANCE PLAN THAT LARGE EMPLOYERS
REALLY LIKE BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THEM TO CONTINUE GIVING THEIR EMPLOYEES
RETIREE BENEFITS WHEN THEY RETIRE BUT NOT BREAK THE PRIVATE EMPLOYER'S
BANK. UNIONS OPERATE HEALTH PLANS JUST LIKE PRIVATE EMPLOYERS SO OF
COURSE THEY ARE INCLUDED. NOTHING SAID ABOUT ACORN HERE.

Page 72 Lines 8-14 -- Government is creating a Health Care
Exchange to bring private health care plans under government control.
IT IS TRUE THAT GOVERNMENT WILL HELP TO REGULATE THE EXCESSIVE ACTIONS
OF PRIVATE INSURERS WHEN THEY DENY YOU COVERAGE BECAUSE OF A
PREEXISTING CONDITION OR BECAUSE YOU WERE SICK. BUT DON'T WE ALL WANT
THAT? EVEN THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY HAS AGREED TO THAT. THE EXCHANGE IS A
WAY TO KEEP OUR PRIVATE INSURANCE SYSTEM WORKING, BUT NOT ALLOW THEM TO
DENY YOU INSURANCE OR CHARGE YOU AN ARM OR A LEG. HAVE YOU EVER HAD TO
BUY PRIVATE INSURANCE BY YOURSELF? IF YOU DID, YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU
WERE EVER SICK, THEY CAN REFUSE TO SELL IT TO YOU OR CHARGE YOU A LOT.

SEE NY TIMESSUNDAY WITH THIS QUOTE:
Lawmakers of both parties agree on the need to rein in
private insurance companies by banning underwriting practices that have
prevented millions of Americans from obtaining affordable insurance.
Insurers would, for example, have to accept all applicants and offer a
minimum package of benefits, to be defined by the federal government.
Nearly all Americans would be required to have insurance. Lawmakers
also agree on the need to provide federal subsidies to help make
insurance affordable for people with modest incomes. For poor people,
Medicaid eligibility would be expanded.

Page 84 Section 203 -- Government mandates ALL benefit packages for private Health Care plans in the Exchange.
THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT PLANS FOR YOU TO CHOOSE FROM, BASIC TO
COMPREHENSIVE DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT TO PAY. RIGHT NOW, IF YOU ARE
A MEDICARE BENEFICIARY AND CHOOSE TO BUY A SUPPLEMENT OR "GAP" PLAN,
YOU CHOOSE PLANS FROM A MENU AND THE BENEFITS ARE MANDATED AND
CONSISTENT.

Page 85 Line 7 -- Specifications for Benefit Levels for Plans = The government will ration your Health Care.
NO RATIONING HERE. YOU CHOOSE THE BENEFITS YOU WANT TO PAY FOR. ONCE
YOU HAVE YOUR PLAN, YOUR DOCTOR DECIDES WHAT TREATMENTS YOU NEED.
"BENEFITS" MEANS YOU GET HOSPITAL SERVICES AND LAB AND X-RAY. IT
DOESN'T DETERMINE WHEN OR HOW OR WHY. JUST LIKE THE PLANS YOU HAVE NOW
THROUGH YOUR EMPLOYER OR WHICH YOU BOUGHT YOURSELF. NO DIFFERENT.

Page 91 Lines 4-7 -- Government mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example -- translation for illegal aliens.
YES, LINGUISTIC SERVICES. NO, ILLEGAL ALIENS. NO SERVICES TO ILLEGAL
ALIENS. THIS IS A BLATANT LIE. THERE IS NO MENTION OF ILLEGAL ALIENS
HERE AT ALL.

Page 95 Lines 8-18 -- The government will use groups i.e.,
ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Government Health
Care plan.
THE BILL SAYS "APPROPRIATE ENTITIES" WILL HELP WITH ENROLLMENT. DOESN'T MENTION ACORN OR AMERICORPS.

Page 85 Line 7 -- Specs of Benefit Levels for Plans. AARP members -- Your Health Care WILL be rationed.
NO MENTION OF AARP. NO RATIONING. YOU GET TO CHOOSE THE LEVEL OF BENEFITS YOU CAN AFFORD. ....S SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THEM AND CHOOSE APPROPRIATELY.....




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Monday August 3, 2009, 5:47 pm
thanks terry

Tuesday August 4, 2009, 6:28 am
If you believe these people I have some swamp land to sell you people. Every word out of their mouths is a lie. Every one of them.