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Indian Genocide and Republican Power

Society & Culture  (tags: genocide, first nations, indian, Indigenous peoples, republicans, government, culture, dishonesty, politics )

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The genocide against Native Americans remains one of the most shameful chapters of U.S. history (and indeed one that continued through Ronald Reagan's presidency with U.S.-backed slaughters in Central America).

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Ingrid Offline A (209)
Thursday October 7, 2010, 3:37 am
Thanks for sharing Kelly!

Julie van Niekerk (230)
Thursday October 7, 2010, 3:57 am
I am shocked. Did not know that this happens in the USA.

Simone Duffin (1462)
Thursday October 7, 2010, 4:08 am

Thank you Kelly.

Kerstin S (371)
Thursday October 7, 2010, 1:15 pm
Thank you for information Kelly

Lone W (1428)
Thursday October 7, 2010, 1:18 pm
thank you Kelly

Past Member (0)
Thursday October 7, 2010, 2:58 pm
They should have have completly wiped out the Native Americans,then we would not be a thorn in your side.Were you hoping to save some for museum pieces or fool the public mass that you are not complete savages.You called them savages yet they lived upon land for centuries,before the terrorist arrived,Columbus arrived.Claiming he discoverd a new land..They helped you survive your first winter and taught you to be self sufficent.After you got strong and fat you decided to trick them,with false treaties that were useless.Guns, Germs, and steel played an important role in wiping out the Natives,why is this not in the history books? you're children need to learn to truth..This was all done by a so-called christian Nation.What goes around comes around,maybe not now,but you're not going to live forever..

Fiona Ogilvie (565)
Thursday October 7, 2010, 3:39 pm
David, I am sorry for your acrimony. Different tribes of Native Americans killed, tortured, and enslaved each other before Columbus ever arrived.

Debra S (71)
Thursday October 7, 2010, 4:42 pm
The Republicans had their involvement in Indian genocide and the Democrats had their involvement with the enslavement and planned genocide of black people (through abortion and the actions of the Klan.) It really drives home the point that there is no perfect, all-good political party. What we have are a bunch of elites at the top who seek to control and a bunch of well-meaning folks at the bottom who are just standing up for their ideals.

Fighting against one another makes about much sense as hating someone who enjoys a different brand of cola than you prefer. Coke or Pepsi, it is the same product with a slightly different flavor, just like Democrat and Republican.

patricia lasek (317)
Thursday October 7, 2010, 7:23 pm
Nice find, Kelly!
From the article:
"Subsidizing the transcontinental railroads was a primary (if not the primary) objective of the new Republican Party."

Now they have changed their tune and just want everyone except the rich to die.

Past Member (0)
Thursday October 7, 2010, 9:46 pm
Bee Hive Lady,its ignorant people like you who choose only what they want to see,hear and read.I gather you're an old fart who's a racist againts the Native Americans,.You have no culture,we do.

Donn M (56)
Thursday October 7, 2010, 9:55 pm
Very true, Beehive Lady.

David, your nonsensical reply to Beehive Lady points the finger of racism right back at you.

Ness F (211)
Friday October 8, 2010, 12:23 am
Thanks Kelly, much appreciated.

Ibolya Emese Andrasofszky-sarkany (18)
Friday October 8, 2010, 12:34 am

Norm C (74)
Friday October 8, 2010, 1:37 am
Prior to the arrival of Europeans, Native Americans rarely killed members of other tribes. Most conflicts were settled with minimal bloodshed and nothing resembling the genocide that was to come their way. It is even unlikely that scalping was known to them but was taught to them by the French and English as a way to pay their Native allies.

Slavery was also very different from European practice depending on which tribes you consider. Tribes that lived in the Carribean and what is now the US and Canada had no history of brutal slavery or torture. That was not the case for the Mayans and some of the later Middle American tribes.

The Sand Creek Massacre was an extraordinarily appalling outrage. Colonel John Chivington, leader of the Colorado Third militia, was a preacher. He ought to have known better. His unit was commissioned for a specific period of time to fight "hostiles". Most of that time he drilled his men and did not engage the Indians. They earned the nickname "The Bloodless Third" for not going into battle. The commission of the Colorado Third was about to expire; so Chivington and the Governor wanted the unit to make a mark before it was disbanded. The article describes the brutal and despicable events of those days on the banks of Sand Creek. What is not recounted is that the returning soldiers wore the scalps over their hats and caps as they rode into Denver. And the scalps were hung for display in the Denver Opera House for the public to see and applaud.

But genocide against Native Americans went back much further than Wounded Knee and Sand Creek. The removal of "The Five Civilized Tribes" from the southeastern states took place in the 1830s because Whites wanted the land and gold discovered in the Carolinas, Georgia, etc. The forced march in 1938 of the Cherokee from their homes to "Indian Country" in Oklahoma, in defiance of the Supreme Court ruling that their removal was illegal, came to be known as The Trail of Tears because so very many died along the way. The estimates place the percentage who died as comparable to the 1942 WWII Bataan Death March in the Philippines.

Norm C (74)
Friday October 8, 2010, 1:37 am
An interesting note is that throughout the 18th and 19th centuries, slaves, indentured servants, and disaffected Europeans frequently left their colonial settlements to live among the Native Americans because they were accorded a far greater freedom there. But no records exist of Indians leaving their people to live among the Europeans.

Norm C (74)
Friday October 8, 2010, 1:43 am
Bee Hive Lady and Donni,

Your assumptions and knowlege of N AM history before and after the "arrival" (some would call it an invasion) of Columbus and the Europeans is completely wrong. Please do some reading.

Scarlett P (126)
Friday October 8, 2010, 8:46 am
I completely agree with you Norm, I am also part Native American, Cherokee... The natives never took more than they needed... the gold that was in the Black Hills meant nothing to them... The Hills themself are sacared...

David.. I am sorry you are so angry... But your anger hurts no one but you...Don't let others control your feels... You are blessed to be Native... The Great Spirit has given you so many blessings... Anger only blinds you... Peace and God's blessings on you....

Past Member (0)
Friday October 8, 2010, 12:09 pm
Thank you Norm C,and Scarlett P.for setting the record straight.Natives tribes fought among each but not to completly wiped each other was for hunting territory,It was called a counting coup,to touch your enemy with your stick.To humiliiate him,but not to kill him..They lived as as close to Mother Earth and the Natural world as possible.They loved and honored Mother Earth,and all of creation including the 4-legged..The Earth can and will speak to you,as well as animals and Nature.How do I know these things,My step-dad was a real Medicine Man,I'm hoping to learn from my traditional elders all I can.We share 90% of our DNA with a tree,what does that tell you? Gold means very little to Indians at the time,The Black Hills are not for sale!! its a sacred site.Of course you would never understand,because you're blinded by Greed.A real Medicine man is not a man to insult,,he can utter a few words and your life would spiral out of control..Because he has protection from above, and the elements,the blue lighting,and the arrowheads.Do you think the Great Spirit is happy that his Red Children were almost annilated?

Past Member (0)
Friday October 8, 2010, 12:17 pm
You insult me again,Donni,and Bee Hive Lady,you're going to be leadind different lives.This is just a warning.

Carole Sarcinello (338)
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Scarlett P (126)
Friday October 8, 2010, 12:21 pm
Bee Hive Lady... maybe you are referring to the African tribes. They were known for holding each other as slaves... Many of the slaves..(please know... I do not agree with slavery) captured members of other tribes and sold them to slave buyers to bring to America...

Scarlett P (126)
Friday October 8, 2010, 12:23 pm
*Many of the tribes... captured member of other tribes and sold them to slave buyers.......

Donn M (56)
Friday October 8, 2010, 10:38 pm
Get over yourself, David.

Sheryl G (360)
Saturday October 9, 2010, 3:44 pm
Bee Hive Lady stated: Different tribes of Native Americans killed, tortured, and enslaved each other before Columbus ever arrived.
Can you please give concrete examples to this statement. If so, does it excuse all the behaviour of the Europeans that came over afterwards?

Donni stated: Get over yourself, David. I understand from reading above you didn't exactly side with David on this, you do have the right to opinion. But to say "get over yourself" has to be the most cruel and insenstive comment yet on here.
I wonder how much you'd get over yourself if you had family, in recent history, not back in the so called good old days, that have been traumatized, sterialized, victimized, ripped from their lands due to forced relocation, and had your children taken simply for being poor......ask the many "lost birds" who exist. If that has not been in your CURRENT families history Donni, then consider yourself fortunate. Is easy to throw out insentive words when you don't have a clue to what is TRULY going on. But then that is how the Federal Government likes to keep it.
No wonder I had a compassionate Care2 friend leave stating the people were racist on here, I defended Care2 when she did, stating the people seemed nice enough to me, but I don't know, this comment is hitting awful close.

David, getting up in age myself, I must say, that you delute your point calling someone "old fart" it isn't the respect that one of your Nation gives to the Elders. I understand your anger at the constant in this Country of people not understanding truly what the people of the various Indian Nations experience, the racist comments hit right to your heart, but do not lower yourself to their level. They will only take offense and never open their eyes or hearts.

Donn M (56)
Saturday October 9, 2010, 7:51 pm
Dandelion, I challenge you to quote even one racist comment here, with the possible exception of David's ignorant statement to Beehive Lady. I am not going to coddle someone who spouts such nonsense, but apparently you believe David's race and the bad experiences some of those race have had gives him the right to be rude and to threaten other people. Sorry, that just doesn't cut it.

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 10, 2010, 11:21 am
I will continue to fight and spread the truth about the Red Nations,THE TRUE AMERICANS!!!!I understand your viewpoint Dandelionl ,,You're one of the truly Good and Compassionate women I know.You deserve the "Great Spirit "Blessing and more.I hope to see you at a SunDance one Day..

Past Member (0)
Sunday October 10, 2010, 12:57 pm
Dandelion G, "The Navajo Nation" has your back, so don't worry about small minded people.

Sheryl G (360)
Sunday October 10, 2010, 4:23 pm
Donni, it is hard to give light to those who want to remain blind.

If you also would read what I said, I did also remind David to not be rude along with what I pointed out concerning what you said and what Bee Hive Lady stated.

I hope one day that Great Spirit will allow my Earth Walk to attend such a great day, SunDance. It would be a great Honor to be among the Navajo Nation peoples.

Donn M (56)
Sunday October 10, 2010, 9:18 pm
I did read your comment, you also tried to excuse David's behavior using an excuse of NONEXISTANT racist comments. (I am presuming,perhaps wrongly, you are referring to this thread,and not just in general, which would make a difference in the dialogue.)Of course it is hard to give light to those who want to remain blind, but there is only one person here who fits that description and you give excuses for him. Beehive Lady should not be attacked for stating a fact. We are ALL true Americans, David, hope you will choose to accept the rest of us one day.

Past Member (0)
Monday October 11, 2010, 8:49 am
Right back at you,there is one and thats you who is blind and ignorant.I suggest you stay away from any posting for Native Americans because you're not welcome..

Donn M (56)
Monday October 11, 2010, 2:54 pm
Interesting that you think you can decide that for everyone, but I suspect you would not be welcome, either, David, til you learn to be more thoughtful and respectful. Hope you can find some peace for your troubled soul.
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