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The GOP Unleashes a Horrifying Attack on Women


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Kit
- 1409 days ago - alternet.org
Republicans came to D.C. "and immediately started putting the government in charge of every single pregnancy in America," said Rachel Maddow on Tuesday night.



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Kit B. (276)
Friday February 11, 2011, 4:34 am
The GOP Unleashes a Horrifying Attack on Women

The Republicans' unprecedented attack on women's bodies must be thrown back at them.

Republicans came to D.C. "and immediately started putting the government in charge of every single pregnancy in America," said Rachel Maddow on Tuesday night.

She's right, and it's horrifying: the blows to women's rights keep coming out of Washington every hour, it seems. The latest? A bill that would strip Planned Parenthood of all funding. This bill is no surprise coming on the heels of a coordinated right-wing attack on Planned Parenthood and a spate of nasty undercover videos by discredited right-wing prankster Lila Rose. But it would do a lot of damage to a lot of women, explains Nick Baumann at Mother Jones:

"[It] will cut $327 million in family planning funding that goes to organizations like Planned Parenthood but that cannot be used to pay for abortions. This money, instead, is used to fund cancer screenings, birth control, and other health care services for poor people. The $327 million is the sum total of this sort of funding under current law. The House GOP is trying to zero out Planned Parenthood."
Republicans' twisted justification for cutting funds is that any money that goes to Planned Parenthood, even for cancer screenings, frees up the organization's funds for abortion. But the pragmatic reality shows that cutting such funding would be devastating to women, ending the ability for many of them to prevent pregnancy at low cost and thereby potentially causing more abortions. Cuts that would deprive women of cancer screenings are unconscionable. Because Planned Parenthood treats sexually active women as human beings, it has become target #1.

What's shocking about all these attacks is that the GOP doesn't even pretend to care about women this time around, as they sometimes do--instead, they're waging an all-out war on women's health. One of the most egregious salvos in this war on women is the treatment of "rape" exceptions to a proposed abortion funding ban. A massive outcry arose when the phrase "forcible rape" appeared in the notorious H.R. 3 bill--essentially redefining "acceptable" rape using an arbitrary term. It was a nasty bit of work, allowing for rape exceptions only if was the "right kind of rape." Note to Republicans, women said: all rape is forcible. The bill's sponsors claimed the offensive phrase had been removed. But according to reports on Wednesday, it was still there.

And yet another controversy has followed in this one's wake, thanks to anti-choice congressman Joe Pitts (PA) who introduced a new facet to yet another awful bill, H.R. 358. This new provision would allow emergency room and other hospital and health personnel to refuse emergency care rather than perform abortion procedures they disagree with. As Dante Atkins at Daily Kos writes, “This modification is simple: it would allow hospitals to make a 'decision of conscience' to let women die.”

Yes, you heard that right. Jill Filipovic at Feministe points out the irony that when hospitals refuse life-saving abortions to women, the fetus often dies along with her. So, she writes, “the entire purpose of this bill is to allow ideologues to refuse necessary, life-saving care to patients, if those patients happen to be pregnant.”

And it doesn't stop there. To add insult to injury, these kinds of attacks are also going down on the state level. Last week at AlterNet, we documented the ways Republicans have been using state-by-state legislation to deprive women of abortion rights, placing their own whim to indulge in some good old-fashioned sexual shaming far above the needs of their constituents hurting for money, jobs and health care.


The End of Abortion in the U.S.?

**Full article presented as one page - please continue reading...***

by Sarah Seltzer for alternet
 

Kit B. (276)
Friday February 11, 2011, 4:56 am
Since Obama (The Marxist Muslim Kenyan, said now that can rest) was elected we hear a clarion call from the right about "smaller government". Oh Really? Shoving your laws and ideas into my uterus is small government? I no longer believe the "pro-lifers" led loudly by S Palin cares a wit about small government, they simply are too stupid to understand that by allowing the government the right over a woman's body is the worst and largest form of government. These are the same folks that stand in favor of war, any war will do, and the death penalty, now ended in most civilized countries around the world. These are folks that want to withdraw the health and food stamp aid for the women they insist must carry that unwanted pregnancy to term. The unparalleled dichotomy is beyond reason or logic, then of course how could it be logical as they have determined this is the will of Jesus. The dichotomy is quite simply: small government that controls the most intimate and private of decisions in a human life. The thing is Jesus never spoke to abortion any more then he ever spoke to homosexuality. Why not? Abortion was common place in those days by the use of plants that caused spontaneous abortions. Yet, the voice from on high said not a word. Homosexuality was common, and only considered a non-productive type of sexual encounter, so please let's not hear the Jesus argument.

Women have struggled for too long, worked to hard, to have yet another reversal of the right to determine their own path in life.
 

Carol H. (229)
Friday February 11, 2011, 5:47 am
noted, thanks!
 

Scarlett P. (126)
Friday February 11, 2011, 7:40 am
Among the Bible verses on abortion is Luke 1:15, which states that John the Baptist will be "filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb", meaning that the baby in the womb has a soul for the Holy Spirit to fill.



 

Kit B. (276)
Friday February 11, 2011, 7:58 am
That is what you believe Scarlett, and by what right do you have to force others to believe the same? This is suppose to a free country with all opinions having equal validity.
 

Earth SpiritKat (17)
Friday February 11, 2011, 9:29 am
Women out number men in this country and the men are afraid we have more power....what better way to bring us down in their opinion, pass laws to stop us from our power
 

Electra Cy (1005)
Friday February 11, 2011, 1:57 pm

"Mind your own business," is what our Governments need to be doing on such a personal issue such as this. They were not hired to judge us for our decisions, they were hired to protect us, and to help where it is needed. We pay taxes to allow for programs like Planned Parenthood.

The Statue of Liberty poem. Written by, Emma Lazarus,

"The New Colossus"

"Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name,
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

This page explains a lot.

http://www.lightomega.org/worldwatch/StatueofLiberty.html

The Government should not have their noses in our bedrooms like they do.

Our Freedoms were outlined and (supposed to be) guaranteed in the "Constitution," the "Bill of Rights," and in the "Declaration of Independence." I believe that "Personal Freedoms" is mentioned as, "above all else," and thought to be protected, with the previous documents.

They worked harder to draft them than our Government works to ensure them. Many people lost their lives for our "Freedoms" to be guaranteed. :(

Thanks Kit!
HUGZ ~ Electra :)
 

Kit B. (276)
Friday February 11, 2011, 2:02 pm
Thanks Electra, if we want to preserve our rights and freedoms we are gonna need to be ready to fight for them.
 

Kit B. (276)
Friday February 11, 2011, 2:45 pm
To prohibit taxpayer funded abortions and to provide for conscience protections, and for other purposes.


Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act'.

SEC. 2. PROHIBITING TAXPAYER FUNDED ABORTIONS AND PROVIDING FOR CONSCIENCE PROTECTIONS.

Title 1 of the United States Code is amended by adding at the end the following new chapter:

`CHAPTER 4--PROHIBITING TAXPAYER FUNDED ABORTIONS AND PROVIDING FOR CONSCIENCE PROTECTIONS

`SEC. 301. PROHIBITION ON FUNDING FOR ABORTIONS.

`No funds authorized or appropriated by Federal law, and none of the funds in any trust fund to which funds are authorized or appropriated by Federal law, shall be expended for any abortion.

`SEC. 302. PROHIBITION ON FUNDING FOR HEALTH BENEFITS PLANS THAT COVER ABORTION.

`None of the funds authorized or appropriated by Federal law, and none of the funds in any trust fund to which funds are authorized or appropriated by Federal law, shall be expended for health benefits coverage that includes coverage of abortion.

`SEC. 303. PROHIBITION ON TAX BENEFITS RELATING TO ABORTION.

`For taxable years beginning after the date of the enactment of this section--

`(1) no credit shall be allowed under the internal revenue laws with respect to amounts paid or incurred for an abortion or with respect to amounts paid or incurred for a health benefits plan (including premium assistance) that includes coverage of abortion,

`(2) for purposes of determining any deduction for expenses paid for medical care of the taxpayer or the taxpayer's spouse or dependents, amounts paid or incurred for an abortion or for a health benefits plan that includes coverage of abortion shall not be taken into account, and

`(3) in the case of any tax-preferred trust or account the purpose of which is to pay medical expenses of the account beneficiary, any amount paid or distributed from such an account for an abortion shall be included in the gross income of such beneficiary.

`SEC. 304. LIMITATION ON FEDERAL FACILITIES AND EMPLOYEES.

`No health care service furnished--

`(1) by or in a health care facility owned or operated by the Federal Government; or

`(2) by any physician or other individual employed by the Federal Government to provide health care services within the scope of the physician's or individual's employment,

may include abortion.

`SEC. 305. CONSTRUCTION RELATING TO SEPARATE COVERAGE.

`Nothing in this chapter shall be construed as prohibiting any individual, entity, or State or locality from purchasing separate abortion coverage or health benefits coverage that includes abortion so long as such coverage is paid for entirely using only funds not authorized or appropriated by Federal law and such coverage shall not be purchased using matching funds required for a federally subsidized program, including a State's or locality's contribution of Medicaid matching funds.

`SEC. 306. CONSTRUCTION RELATING TO THE USE OF NON-FEDERAL FUNDS FOR HEALTH COVERAGE.

`Nothing in this chapter shall be construed as restricting the ability of any non-Federal health benefits coverage provider from offering abortion coverage, or the ability of a State or locality to contract separately with such a provider for such coverage, so long as only funds not authorized or appropriated by Federal law are used and such coverage shall not be purchased using matching funds required for a federally subsidized program, including a State's or locality's contribution of Medicaid matching funds.

`SEC. 307. NON-PREEMPTION OF OTHER FEDERAL LAWS.

`Nothing in this chapter shall repeal, amend, or have any effect on any other Federal law to the extent such law imposes any limitation on the use of funds for abortion or for health benefits coverage that includes coverage of abortion, beyond the limitations set forth in this chapter.

`SEC. 308. CONSTRUCTION RELATED TO STATE OR LOCAL LAWS.

`Nothing in this chapter or any other Federal law shall be construed to require any State or local government to provide or pay for any abortion or any health benefits coverage that includes coverage of any abortion.

`SEC. 309. TREATMENT OF ABORTIONS RELATED TO RAPE, INCEST, OR PRESERVING THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER.

`The limitations established in sections 301, 302, 303, and 304 shall not apply to an abortion--

`(1) if the pregnancy occurred because the pregnant female was the subject of an act of forcible rape or, if a minor, an act of incest; or

`(2) in the case where the pregnant female suffers from a physical disorder, physical injury, or physical illness that would, as certified by a physician, place the pregnant female in danger of death unless an abortion is performed, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself.
 

Kit B. (276)
Friday February 11, 2011, 2:48 pm
How' that for Big Government climbing right up inside of your being and determining for you what is right or wrong, what will or will not be allowed.

HR 3 in full....

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.3:

(Thanks Electra for the copy of the bill from Thomas)
 

Walter Firth (45)
Friday February 11, 2011, 3:54 pm
Noted.It is time you got rid of some of your politicians before you lose to much of your individual freedoms.
 

Kit B. (276)
Friday February 11, 2011, 4:18 pm
Read HB 3 and then read HB 212 and compare - I think we are chasing the wrong rabbit. If this little innocuous seeming bill is passed then there is no need for a re-defining of rape and no need to adjust anything about abortion it would be illegal no matter the reason.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:H.R.212:

H.R.212

"Sanctity of Human Life Act - Declares that: (1) the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human and is the person's paramount and most fundamental right; (2) each human life begins with fertilization, cloning, or its functional equivalent, at which time every human has all legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood; and (3) Congress, each state, the District of Columbia, and all U.S. territories have the authority to protect all human lives."


 

Jae A. (321)
Friday February 11, 2011, 4:36 pm
Scarlett...The bible is for those who want to believe in it...to force it's views on all is as wrong as wrong can be in a free society. Forced religion is never good for anyone...look at the middle east and other nations where it is to see that fact in real time.
Fine for those who are bible bound to do whatever they want about unwanted or dangerous pregnancies but for the rest..stay out of their lives and keep your hands off their bodies and their rights to do with it as the decide when it comes to abortions. It's not a choice for anyone else to make but theirs.
Spend your time/money, instead of fighting abortion, in trying to save lives being lost in wars being fought in the name of religion. Tryin feeding the starving children that already exist on the planet as well as home for those left without one due to your wars for profits and religious territory and on and on. Do something to show you really care instead of all this B.S. about what choices other women make.You can save a lot more lives by doing those things.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday February 11, 2011, 5:00 pm
Noted, thanks. It makes no sense (of course) for the GOP to force more unwanted children on people who can't afford them...and at the same time they are taking away all the social services these people will need to survive.
 

Barbara K. (75)
Friday February 11, 2011, 5:13 pm
Wow! Kit, you go girl! I don't believe there is anything in the Constitution that gives the government the right to govern OUR bodies or what we do with OUR own bodies. If there is, will someone please point it out to me? Did you notice that with the piece of garbage they are trying to ram down our throats also NOW puts it into the Constitution. Why? "cause it wasn't already in the Constitution. They have been mandating our bodies for decades unconstitutionally. And they can stay out of our bedrooms too. I'm trusting the Senate to stop this piece of trash too.
 

Kit B. (276)
Friday February 11, 2011, 5:27 pm
Barb, have you ever heard or read about that little tiny bit of proposed legislation to take all of your human rights away from you? I haven't. Though now that I have I am writing to all the TV networks. I want to know why this hasn't been talked about - shouted out and screamed.
 

pam w. (191)
Friday February 11, 2011, 5:30 pm
Scarlett...what gives you the right to impose your religious texts on my life?
 

pam w. (191)
Friday February 11, 2011, 5:32 pm
Just another SMOKESCREEN to hide the GOP's lack of plan to add jobs, lessen debt, improve life and cut debt. Just another attack on women. Oh...and, of course, another attempt to make us all "God-fearin' Christians."
 

Past Member (0)
Friday February 11, 2011, 7:48 pm
End the STUPID WARS, Cut out all the SPY CRAP of "Homeland Security", and shut down most of the Government, and we'll have tons of China money left.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday February 11, 2011, 9:19 pm
Elections are coming, I can't wait to read "Women Unleash a Horrifying Attack on The GOP"
If you have not yet heard, they are changing the legal term 'Rape Victim' to 'Rape Accuser' also.
 

Trish K. (93)
Friday February 11, 2011, 10:05 pm
All men shall wear double condoms. If a female is impregnated it is a crime, Stop pregnancy by castrating men over 40. Save millions by refusing Viagra to men. All men must have vasectomies after 2 children. Men need to take responsibility for their own emissions and stop blaming women.
Impregnate every member of congress who is anti-abortion against their will. Pick one or two and make it law.
 

Mac R. (289)
Friday February 11, 2011, 10:35 pm
If people don't get loud and angry in enough numbers they WILL get a lot of this sh*t passed! America is so moving backwards in time! --- Make that, "leaping backwards in time!" with these Jesus Jhadists.
 

. (0)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 1:42 am
We are, for sure, on a spooky trip back in time with these women's rights rapists cackling madly and steering us toward a time when they felt safer...when mommy was home to wipe their asses and bake them cookies...Lemme know when we get back to the bra burning, **squirming and pulling straps up** I have a few to throw on the fire.
 

Brenda Towers (0)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 2:38 am
As much as I abhor abortion, I do believe that women should have the right to it in safety.
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 4:23 am
Thank you, Brenda. The honesty is refreshing. I don't believe any one likes the idea of abortion, some times it is necessary.
 

patricia lasek (317)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 5:42 am
Is this what the RepublicanTs and Tea Baggers mean by smaller government?
I really don't think it's smaller if they want to infringe on the privacy between a doctor and patient.
 

Scott haakon (4)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 7:19 am
It is about the money!
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 7:24 am
It's only about the campaign money. The rest is a concerted effort to control and dominate the free will of women. Under the HR 212, women would be nothing more then living incubators, with no ability to make a decision about their own body or life. That is slavery.
 

Aletta Kraan (146)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 8:20 am
Noted , thanks !
 

serge vrabec (280)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 8:52 am
It would be wise to let women decide what they want to do in their lives, Thx Kit. :)
 

Robert O. (12)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 9:02 am
You made a good point Kit when you stated, "Under the HR 212, women would be nothing more then living incubators, with no ability to make a decision about their own body or life. That is slavery." Sadly the GOP never has and never will care about equal rights, human rights and especially women's rights. If there's no profit to be had in it, or if it doesn't help their agenda, they won't care about it. I'd like to know what the women in the GOP think of this. Well maybe not, I know many are conservative bible thumpers that refuse to see the light. Wasn't it Sharron Angle that ran unsuccessfully (thank goodness) against Harry Reid for Governor of Nevada and is against abortion even in the case of rape? She stated that if a woman becomes pregnant as a result of rape she should just bear the rapist's child and make lemonade out of the lemons she's been given? How scary is that? I'd like to know if she'd sing the same tune if that happened to her or one of her loved ones. My point is that pretzel logic like that, especially when it comes from conservative women only serves to egg on the GOP and justify their quest to trivialize and erase women's rights even more.
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 9:24 am
It's a lack of compassion, Robert. When politics and religion climb into the same bed then the harshest of judgements against fellow humans is excused by bringing "god's law" in the discussion. That it's all made up as they go along doesn't matter, they found a justification and hiding place.
 

Donn M. (56)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 11:45 am
No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion. Sure can't argue with that. Do disagree with exception #1 though. But I was under the impression that taxpayers already do not fund abortions.
 

Yvonne White (233)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 1:05 pm
"But I was under the impression that taxpayers already do not fund abortions." Tax payers Don't fund abortions, so that provision is just there to scare people into thinking they do!
These are Sharia Law RepubliCONs, and should be exposed as such! NO Christian would Force women to Sacrifice Their Rights for men who couldn't care less if they live or die!
 

Yvonne White (233)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 1:09 pm
If you don't believe in abortion, don't have one - but also be sure you don't accidentally miscarry, next they'll prosecute you for "child endangerment"! It Never stops with these "women are property" control freaks!
 

pam w. (191)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 1:14 pm
Can't you just see it, Yvonne? Government PREGNANCY ASSURANCE agents will be haunting restaurants, looking for pregnant women who might (GASP) drink alcohol!
 

Ramona Thompson (210)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 2:50 pm
What people believe or don't believe about religion or non-religion is their own business and whether someone does not believe, or does believe, should not make them a whipping post for anyone. However, if we are going to spout religious or non-religious beliefs, we should be ready for respectful opposing views.

I used to say not to worry when people talked about what would happen in USA if Taliban-extremists took over because I believed that American women would set them straight.

However, if American women stand for this gender atrocity shovel-full of manure by whatever political party is pushing it, then we deserve being pushed back into Neanderthal caves.

I don't give a flying.....flip....what party anyone is. This is outrageous and we have to scream and kick all the way to the election polls and we can't wait until it's time to vote in 2012.

Has every single insane person in our country been elected to public office? They have to have been, to come up with this horrific proposal and some of the others out there!

First Lieberman with the internet shutoff, now this (Pitt?) guy...well, he may not be Pitt but his name rhymes with a word I am thinking.....Thomas trying to excape the felony issue.

I am not going to ask "what next" because at the moment I don't want to think what insanity is lurking around the corner. Just gimme a minute and let me catch my breath, then I'll be ready to take a peek and meet it head on.

Having said all of this, it does not matter who is where, White house, South Dade Miami, Pennsylvania, hospital ER steps, whatever. We have GOT to fix the evil corporatism that is destroying our country and is behind a lot of, if not most of, this insane stuff.

To deny a woman a life or death abortion, is sheer MURDER.

I personally know someone who died years ago from this very situation and the agony she suffered and experienced because she could not get medical help resulted in her death and the baby's.

These politicians need to be recalled. Didn't Scalia say recently he believed there could be no discrimination based upon gender?

The next thing you know, they will be suggesting burkahs for American women if we let this slide.
 

Electra Cy (1005)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 3:05 pm

Since Women are taxpayers too.... I will agree with this,"No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion."

When they stop making Women pay taxes.

We are not cattle, or chattel, and we should not be treated as such, and with such total disregard for our safety, and well being.

For the naysayers. What if the Issue was reversed, and they had decided that you were required to have an abortion? And/or, only one child. What if they decided that they did not want you to have any? Wouldn't you feel that your Rights were being violated?

Don't think it can happen? Research China. :(

Childbirth should not be a lotto run by the Government, and I believe that some people should not have children, but it's their decision to make, not mine. Forcing someone to carry a child that they are not ready, willing, or able to care for and love leads to bigger problems.

Unwanted children can face the most horrific lives, and the worst atrocities are usually committed against them. "Under the Radar." They didn't ask to be born, and they suffer their whole lives because they were. Many of them commit suicide, some become violent against others in retaliation, and out of pure hatred for a Society that brought them here.

Is this really the kind of World you wish to live in? One filled with violence, and hatred?

I want Peace!
In order for that to happen people have to want to be here, and they should not be filled with hatred while they are. They should be born out of love.
 

Electra Cy (1005)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 3:08 pm

"Judge not...., lest you too shall be judged."
 

Tierney G. (383)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 6:02 pm
Thanks Kit and Amen!!! This was the worst week I have had in a long long time.... I keep hearing and reading more horror yet to come. The top Rep are planing to end ALL forms of Contraception for everyone - rich people too!!! What are they thinking are they insane where are their wives their daughters??? This is outrageous. The worst thing i have read is that Justice Scalia's littl comnets about women not being covered under the Constitution well it was a code or a warning . Two dem ocrats sent a letter to the Chairmen of the committee that is [preparing these awful bills asking why their was no constitutionality attached as on all the other bills not concerned with reproduction or womens issues. Have not heard yet but they are thinking that women are NOT protected under the constitution!!!!! It may be true as I also read this on the site explainig why the ratification of the ERA was so imperative and the reason that the ERA was not ratified by all states was because of the whole abortion issue. Ratifying the ERA wopuld automatically give women the right to abort regardless apparnetly.
II had quite a few sleepless nights wondering where this is all going to lead ....the right to own property? The right to vote? the right to be single and not owned by a man? I would not put ANYTHING past this Congress right now. I might add that 12 blue dog Democrats are co-sponsoring that horrible bill. One is Heath Schuler of NC.
We must fight like our lives depend oni t because they do!!!
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 6:37 pm
Make this very basic and simple so any one can understand. This is about the right to self determination, abortion is the "false flag." This is about women having the same control over their lives and their bodies as any man - HB 212 will end that right. We will be nothing more than chattel property, with fewer rights then children. If any women for any reason defends this she has severe problems.
 

Tierney G. (383)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 6:57 pm
Kit you are sooo right!! I have been trying to tell people this for a while now but as soon as the word 'abortion" comes into it everyone gets mad and gets an attitude it is like a an immediate reaction. Try just try to get a civilized conversation with the forced birth crowd forget it! They think they know everything. I read somewhere that some women that voted for the rep's and the tea party were told over and over it is only about" JOBS" several asked repeatedly are you sure? They said only about jobs! They LIED . but if they had been paying attention they would not have been fooled so easily.
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 7:10 pm
Jobs that women will not have nor be eligible for, read the bill again, very carefully. Is there any bill that decides what a man can or can do in his life? Obviously I am not speaking to those things that we all agree are harmful to the health and well being of society. This is about the basic freedoms that women have struggled for over many years. The rights that are casually taken for granted now, and were not always there. This poses a grave danger and should be seen as that. I sure would not count on the Supremes, we have seen their actions.
 

Gayle M. (444)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 9:32 pm
No matter what your personal belief system our government is built on a clear separetion of Church and state. That means that if insurance can pay for viagra, and if people with mental health issues are allowed guns then the basic right of WOMEN to make their own minds up about their own body is sacrosanct

Get your hands off our bodies and your noise out of my mind. .
 

Ralph R Sutton (56)
Saturday February 12, 2011, 9:45 pm
Excellent comment, LadyGayle B. Green star.

A man may have a right to make a suggestion, but it is the woman who has the final say about her own body.
 

Kit B. (276)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 4:12 am

This line becoming more blurred just as many forms of Washington double speak. The first amendment is intentionally combined with the Danbury letter, one is law the other a personal opinion. Once it is voiced to the point of full confusion removing one will allow the removal of the other. The first amend as it addresses religion;
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" the "wall of separation between church and state," as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists Association in 1802. The original text reads: "...I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." It's important to realize that they are not the same thing.

Indeed Ralph men may have a right of suggestion, but we are moving far beyond suggestions into laws.
 

pam w. (191)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 8:26 am
I'm as concerned as all of you. HOWEVER....we have the ACLU, PFAW, NOW and other organizations which can and will fight this.

DONATE TO THEM! They can't do it on someone else's dollar...they need money from all of us.

 

Kit B. (276)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 9:02 am
Right Pam, and don't forget NARAL in that list, if you give 5.00 to each you help them fight these battles.
 

pam w. (191)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 9:11 am
Thanks, Kit...AND Planned Parenthood...can't for get them!
 

Electra Cy (1005)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 1:08 pm

Supreme Court Justice Scalia stated that we are not protected under the Constitution.
The ERA that would have ensured our Rights was 3 States shy of being ratified, in 1982.

We all assumed that it passed, but we were wrong! This is no longer about abortion. It is about our Civil Rights! It seems that they are not under attack, they are nonexistent. :(

We need to change this.

HUGZ ~ Electra
 

patricia lasek (317)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 3:21 pm
LafyGayle & electra Cy, you are made of the stuff which makes us strong.
Remember, we are the ones strong enough to bear a child; they are not.

Send them a Valentine at Momsrising.org
 

Electra Cy (1005)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 7:21 pm

Here is a listing of the States.

"The 15 states whose legislatures have not ratified the Equal Rights Amendment are Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Utah, and Virginia."

I think it's time to write letters to your Representatives.
 

Kit B. (276)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 7:25 pm
Thanks Electra, and yes we should be writing and putting these guys/gals on a daily call list. We need ERA, but we need it clear that all humans have equal rights. No confusion this time.
 

Electra Cy (1005)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 7:39 pm

I'm spreading the word on facebook. I hope that you will do the same.
Here's a link you can use, or you can research your own. :D

http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/

Thanks!
HUGZ ~ Electra :D
 

Electra Cy (1005)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 7:49 pm

I know Kit! *sheesh*

I would like to see them replace the word "men" with "Citizens" throughout, and since marriage is a type of "Religious" ceremony, It's the joining of souls.

I don't believe that they should be involved in that either. A License to get married, etc...Taxes unfairly split over your "Marital Status." There are many single parents of both sexes that raise kids, but their benefits are different. Marriage is "Sanctified" by the I.R.S..

The first Amendment has too many loopholes, and that is why our country seems to be run by Churches, and Corporations. :(

Thanks again Kit!
HUGZ ~ Electra :D
 

Electra Cy (1005)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 8:16 pm

Well, well.... HAPPY VALENTINES DAY from the State of Virginia. :D Look at this. :D

FLASH! On Feb. 7, 2011, the Virginia Senate passed a resolution (SJ357) ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment. A hearing on the House of Delegates companion bill (HJ640, chief sponsor Del. Mark Sickles) will be held in Subcommittee #1 (Constitutional) of the Privileges and Elections Committee on Feb. 14. For more information, contact Diana Egozcue, Virginia NOW President,
 

Kit B. (276)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 8:21 pm

I do believe there is a tiny light peeking through. Those women had to work for that. As we all need to
be working to pass the ERA.
 

pam w. (191)
Sunday February 13, 2011, 10:11 pm
Thanks for the good news, Electra!
 

Electra Cy (1005)
Monday February 14, 2011, 4:04 pm

Here is the contact info to contact your Representatives, and Legislators to ask them to pass the (ERA) Equal Rights Amendments.

http://www.usa.gov/Contact/Elected.shtml

HUGZ ~ Electra
 
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