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Bill O'Reilly On UC Davis Pepper Spray: We Shouldn't Second-Guess Police (VIDEO)


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Kit
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O'Reilly was a tad less nuanced in his comments. "I don't think we have the right to Monday-morning quarterback the police," he said.



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Arielle S. (317)
Tuesday November 22, 2011, 10:41 am
That sound you hear is me choking.... I suppose dear Mr. Bill thinks waterboarding is just fine, too.... What in the world does this man know of real life?
 

Phillip I. (67)
Tuesday November 22, 2011, 11:42 am
My, but that is a precious photo of the o'reilly creature......
 

Val R. (254)
Tuesday November 22, 2011, 1:46 pm
ust the title upset me - of course we should question the police!!!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday November 22, 2011, 4:23 pm
I am fulminating!!!!!***$$**(##@!!!

Hey, that's a lot better than what I'd like to say.
 

Craig Zimmerman (86)
Tuesday November 22, 2011, 4:36 pm
Obviously Mr. O'Reilly has never been hassled by the police for no reason at all.
 

Bill K. (14)
Tuesday November 22, 2011, 5:10 pm
not second guess the police? so he wants the US to be a police state? the right to second guess everyone is what our country is all about.
 

Terry King (109)
Tuesday November 22, 2011, 5:57 pm
As a "fair and balanced" reporter, I would think O'Reilly would want to experience exposure to this "food product" for himself. In the interest of science, I would be happy to volunteer to stalk back and forth in front of him while spraying him in the face!
 

Cynthia not well (340)
Tuesday November 22, 2011, 6:55 pm
If it had been a bunch of Republican students demonstrating against Democrats, Gay people or Abortionists, he would have been appalled that the police would dare to pepper spray them. He is as predictable as a cat playing with a mouse, nothing new here, same creep as always.
 

patricia lasek (317)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 7:46 am
Bill O - everyday's worst person in the world!
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 9:00 am
so the republican pov is 'let them eat pepper and pizza"?
 

Mike H. (238)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 9:20 am
O'Reilly is a pompous buffoon
 

Kimberley Meade (1)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 10:11 am
Not only do we have the right, we have the obligation. Remember "Government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the Earth."



 

Lilith Cohen (202)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 10:21 am
The pepper spray incident was disgusting but not quite as bad as the murders, rapes and property damage resulting from the OWS protests.
 

Diana W. (2)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 10:35 am
Good grief.
 

Sandra D. (7)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 10:42 am
IS PEPPER SPRAY PREPARED JUST FOR THE PUBLIC? IF SO WHAT ELSE CAN THEY DO TO US?
 

Lone Wolf (24)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 11:34 am
Oreilly is an ignorant blowhard
 

Alisha H. (0)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 12:09 pm
I'm not a fan of Orielly; I like how they say it may have been diluted... it's nice to know they have control over what is contained in those canisters. What else are they doing?? At the same time, if some is in your home for a short period of time and eventually you have to ask them to leave due to bad behavior what do you do to get them to leave when they refuse to leave?? I'm not saying you have to pepper spray them to the extent that the police did but what other choice did they have. Physical removal would have cause physical harm to protestors and police.
 

Holly Lawrence (473)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 12:26 pm
Pig...
 

Pamela D. (16)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 1:07 pm
The fight for freedom against any opposition or oppression, government or otherwise is never pretty on either side. That however, does not deminish the desire for it, but consequentially fuels it.
 

Claudia O. (73)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 1:46 pm
For the life of me, I cannot understand how anyone could look at that video and think that officer did the right thing. ..not even stupid Bill O. Wrong is just plain wrong.
 

Jim Phillips (3202)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 2:17 pm
As usual, O'Reilly, simplifies and second guesses himself of the incident where the police overstepped their boundaries and went ahead to pepper-spray the students sitting on the ground, acting peacefully and quietly their demonstration.

A full investigation should be conducted immediately and charge the officers with intent to subvert and to harm those peaceful people. The officers abused their authority and did cause civil rights violations.

The Attorney General of the State of California should start an investigation immediately.

TY, Kit.
.
 

Charles Wasserman (17)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 2:19 pm
Pepper spraying these individuals was police brutality at it's ugliest form.
It borders on unconstitutional action.
The officers involved should be held accountable.
 

Marco C. (32)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 2:26 pm
Lilith, would you care to elaborate on the murders, rapes and property damage? I'm sure that you have an elaborate accounting.

Bill O'Reilly preys on the mentally ill and those swimming in the shallow end of the intellectual pool. His commentary is based on unrealistic fears, wild exagerations and sensationalism. Take what he says seriously at your own risk.
 

Marianne C. (163)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 2:28 pm
What we should do is turn the pepper spray on Bill O'Reilly so he can show us all that it's no big deal. It's basically a food product, you knowl. I advocate letting all of Faux Noise have an equal share. 'Tis the season, after all.
 

Dotti Lydon (112)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 2:36 pm
I did not look at the video. Have never seen his program, never intend to. What I had heard about him was enough. Give me Jon Stewart.
 

Allan Yorkowitz (448)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 2:46 pm
I will listen to O'Reilly sometimes. On this point he is way off the mark. These students were on their knees. Where was the need for pepper spray?
 

Phyllis P. (389)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 3:31 pm
I don't know what to say. The police used excessive force in this matter. Why the police chief got suspended is beyond me and I think the Chancellor is a wimp.
 

Vicky P. (466)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 3:35 pm
who listens to this loser anyway. He's always wrong. Don't even want the video, I know how he sounds and how ignorant he is, and it pisses me off
 

gene p. (0)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 3:37 pm
What a dipstick!
 

Lilith Cohen (202)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 3:40 pm
Marco, already done in earlier posts. Do a little Google search homework. Pretty simple to find actually.
 

donald Baumgartner (6)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 5:22 pm
Fire the Officers!!
And while we're at it, FIRE Oreilly, Hannity & Limbaugh!
 

Marco C. (32)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 5:23 pm
No really Lilith, you must be confusing me for someone else, I don't do your work for you, you brought it up on this post, so show what it is your made of. I suspect nothing more than hot air, your accusations are empty and you have no supporting evidence.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 5:44 pm
Lilith oh...so there were murders, rapes and damaged property cause by OWS? REALLY? I think you have it mixed up with the middle east. Do you always drink and blog? Get off your ass and come to Northern California, and I will personally drive you to peaceful OWS protests here. There are 3 cities doing it as I write.
 

Lilith Cohen (202)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 5:55 pm
Is this what you were referring to Gloria?

Occupy Oakland Hosts Gay Porn Movie Shoot
This one's bound to catch the attention of the anti-Occupy sect: Porn company Dirty Boy Video, which (we're guessing) specializes in videos of boys who are dirty, used a tent in the middle of the Occupy Oakland encampment at Frank Ogawa Plaza as the set for a recent video shoot. As Le Fag reports, along with the promotional stills, "This video could be a nice historical document in years to come, should the movement prove more than a flash in the pan."
Adding a political note to the recently-released porn, Dirty Boy Video quips, "Police can ban the erection of tents at Occupy Wall Street, but they can't keep us from pitching a tent in our pants!"
There's a trailer which is obviously Not Safe for Work or public Wi-Fi, of the "hipster twink themed" piece of performance art.

[LeFag]


 

Lilith Cohen (202)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 6:14 pm
You must have meant this Gloria -

Occupy Wall Street Protester: Sexual Assault and Violence at Occupy Wall Street site (Click Here)
 

Lilith Cohen (202)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 6:22 pm
Well that one has gone bye bye - Try this one on for size -

OWS Oakland Style (Click Here)
 

Lilith Cohen (202)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 6:40 pm
Here ya go Gloria -

Occupy Wall Street Protester: Sexual Assault and Violence at Occupy Wall Street site(Click Here)
 

Linda h. (86)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 7:47 pm
So the next time we have those teabagging idiots having a protest beating people up and waving their guns around we get to pepperspray them. Good.
 

Kamila A. (141)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 8:08 pm
that face is in need of a good pepper spraying.....it would improve that countenance, definitely. Bill O'Reilly is a tool and a fool.
I am with Donald Baumberger, fire him and all of the FOX henchmen!
 

Robert B. (58)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 8:14 pm
We all know what happened when no one spoke up against improper and illegal use of authority In 1939. Millions of people wound up being murdered. They justified these mass atrocities with accusations of isolated cases crimes, trumped up charges and scapegoating , just like Lilith and her right wing cohorts are doing now.
 

Charles Wasserman (17)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 8:15 pm
Linda H.
Two wrongs never equal one right.
What is unconstitutional for one is unconstitutional for all.
The document is the basis ypon which this nation was founded and applies equally to all persons in all circumstances.
Please keep that in mind in the future.
 

Hartson Doak (33)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 9:19 pm
I think Mr. O'Reilly needs to get pepper sprayed, by a police officer of course.
 

Shan D. (49)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 11:09 pm
Of course we should second-guess the police - has the U.S. learned nothing from the stories of police abuses in Canada at the G20 and the recent revelation of sexual harassment of female officers?
 

Susanne R. (249)
Wednesday November 23, 2011, 11:17 pm
"We shouldn't second-guess the police." This coming from an angry, arrogant loud-mouth who second-guesses people for a living! Bill O'Reilly is Fox entertainment and shouldn't be taken seriously.
 

ewoud k. (73)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 2:54 am
Thepolice is there to protect the people.

Right?

So....

No other way than to question them. In this particular case, and many other, comparable, ones.
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 7:28 am
Good old anti-social personality 'Lilith' is in operation again I see.
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 7:55 am
I see the anti-social personality 'Lilith' is in operation again.
 

Kenneth L. (314)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 7:56 am
I just love C2's latency.
 

Cynthia not well (340)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 10:04 am
Lilith, Your videos don't prove anything. Any time crowds of people get together you are going to have some nuts in the group or people that don't want to be peaceful. I am sure you are smart enough to know that. Women get groped at a Nascar race and I'm sure some have been raped there as well and I know of a few cases of murder there as well. One of your videos had been took down and one look to me to be made as propaganda against OWS Portland and the one with one person doing all the talking seem to me that she herself didn't actually know or see anything. This only proved to me that OWS people there have been doing a good job to police their self sense the police were not helping. I know it might be hard for you to understand but the OWS people are fighting for YOU too, unless of course you are a billionaire or the CEO of a greedy Corporation. You might want to take some time, while your doing your best to find propaganda to discredit OWS, to try and find out what we are about. Contrary to the propaganda you have bought into, OWS is not a liberal or conservative movement it's a WE THE PEOPLE MOVEMENT and believe it or not the tea party people are part of OWS and YOU should join us and fight for your rights as well. Until we get the money out of the hands of the money changers and our Government out of the hands of Corporations we will not be free. And when I say we I mean YOU as well.

First they came for the socialist,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the OWS,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't part of OWS.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Think about it.
 

Joyce S. (10)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 10:29 am
I bet, on his deathbed, he's gonna say he was trolling us his entire life.
 

Lynne Buckley (0)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 10:44 am
What a dinosaur. There's nothing to second guess. The police guy was a thug and should be fired.
 

Roger Skinner (14)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 11:53 am
This is SO wrong on SO many levels.
"I don't think we have the right to Monday-morning quarterback the police," he said.
Really? Has O'Reilly NEVER commented on police misconduct before? If he wasn't a "Monday-morning quarterback" for everyone else he wouldn't have a show.
 

Wayne W. (12)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 2:07 pm
Right Wing Media Infiltrates Occupy Wall Street To Discredit It

http://www.care2.com/causes/right-wing-media-infiltrates-occupy-wall-street-to-discredit-it.html

Lilith, your attempts to discredit OWS are taken no more seriously than those of Breitbart and O'Keefe are on other matters.

O’Keefe and Breitbart ACORN Videos ‘Severely Edited’
http://gawker.com/5508190/okeefe-and-breitbart-acorn-videos-severely-edited

A Refresher Course On Andrew Breitbart's Dishonest Tactics
http://mediamatters.org/research/201102010047
 

Myron Scott (70)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 2:49 pm
Nice riposte, Wayne W. Always good to read your comments.

O'Reilly would have unquestioningly supported the SS, too, no doubt.
 

Ellie L. (0)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 3:03 pm
The person all Americans should "second guess" is Bill O'Reilly! The Police thugs deserve to be publicly censured and then fired. The same holds true for O'Reilly.
 

WAYNE LEMARBLE HM3 (7)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 3:38 pm
IF THE A-HOLE WANTS TO LIVE IN A POLICE STATE HE SHOULD MOVE TO IRAN-THERE HE COULD BE QUICKLY EXECUTED.
 

Jim Phillips (3202)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 4:42 pm
Pepper-Spray Cop's Money Troubles
John Pike could no longer afford his mortgage, after the housing market crashed
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By MATT SMITH on November 23, 2011 - 6:45 p.m. PST
Source: The Bay Citizen (http://s.tt/149Pk)

John A. Pike III, identified as the police officer who pepper-sprayed a line of sitting Occupy movement protesters Friday on the University of California, Davis campus may have more in common with the discontented 99 percent than previously suspected.

Pike, who was placed on paid administrative leave pending an investigation into the Nov. 18 incident, last year emerged from a bankruptcy where creditors took possession of his pickup truck, his wedding ring, his barbecue grill, several handguns, and even $265 worth of clothing.

Pike earns more than $110,000 a year as a UC Davis police lieutenant. But federal court records and county mortgage records reveal that Pike and his wife, Erica, borrowed heavily before the 2008 financial crisis, and were left insolvent when the value of their Roseville home declined.

Attempts to reach Pike and his attorney for comment were unsuccessful.

Over the weekend, Pike went from being a down-on-his-luck university police officer to becoming a global rallying symbol for Occupy movement protesters. Videos of Pike methodically directing streams of orange-tinted pepper spray into the faces of student protesters as they sat passively with their arms linked began circulating online Friday night. By the weekend, the videos were being broadcast on televisions and computer screens worldwide. By Monday, hundreds of websites had published Pike’s home address and police cell phone number.

UC officials said Pike and other officers were responding to a tense situation in which they were surrounded by students.

Protesters countered that photographs and videos depicted a relatively calm situation in which Mr. Pike, appearing nonchalant, begins dousing the seated protesters. Eleven demonstrators were treated for spray-related injuries, and two were taken to a hospital.

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Chancellor Linda P. B. Katehisaid she had instructed police to avoid violence. As calls for her resignation increased this week, Katehi asked the Yolo County district attorney to investigate the incident. On Tuesday the University of California president, Mark G. Yudof, appointed William J. Bratton, a former Los Angeles police chief, to review the incident. A UC Davis spokesman said Wednesday that the officers would remain on leave pending the conclusion of the investigations.

Federal bankruptcy records and Placer County mortgage records show that Pike and his wife took out a second mortgage on their Roseville house in 2006. At the time of their Dec. 28, 2009, bankruptcy filing, Pike owed $450,000 on the property. This week the house was being offered in a short sale for $274,000, said Darren Brewer, an agent with Security Pacific Real Estate.

According to bankruptcy records, Pike has lost more than his home, despite income he described in bankruptcy filings as $127,000 per year.

Creditors took his furniture, his wine refrigerator, his camping equipment, his $3,000 wedding ring, and three handguns valued at $490, bankruptcy records show.

Source: The Bay Citizen (http://s.tt/149Pk)

LINK:
http://www.baycitizen.org/occupy-movement/story/pepper-spraying-cop-was-bankrupt/?utm_source=Newsletters&utm_campaign=c7f527033b-Nov_24_Daily_Newsletter11_23_2011&utm_medium=email

TY, Kit.
.
 

Ray Lovelace (1)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 5:23 pm
If, a) he had the balls, and, b) he actually believed the BS he gets so handsomely paid to spout, O'Reilly would go on live TV and be pepper sprayed and waterboarded.
Right. Like THAT's gonna happen.
 

LeMoyn Salmonsen (88)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 5:37 pm
What do you expect from a Dip Stick?
 

Jean C. (18)
Thursday November 24, 2011, 5:58 pm
I guess Bill thinks the police always know what they are doing.

One evening I was driving my car through town on the way home from a bike ride when the headlight switch on my car broke so my headlights would not turn on. I decided to use my four-way emergency flashers while driving as it was getting dark and I wanted to be seen. The next thing I saw were flashing lights from a police cruiser so I pulled over onto a roadside parking lot. I opened the door of my car and started to get out so I could ask the cop if he would assist me by driving in front of me. All of a sudden, he drew his weapon and hid behind his car door and screamed at me, and I mean screamed at me, to get back in my car. I though I was going to get shot. I quickly got back in my car. He then approached me and continued to yell at me, what, I can’t remember. All I wanted to do was to ask him to escort me a few miles so I could drive home safely. Once he realized that he almost shot an innocent person, he then tried to fix my light switch, but only broke it further. After all that, he refused to escort me home. So he wouldn’t mind shooting me, but he declined to help me? Welcome to the United Police States of America.

 

Penelope P. (222)
Friday November 25, 2011, 12:54 am
see also another aspect-http://www.care2.com/news/member/851334836/3028067
also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wvPk5TD2cw&feature=channel_video_title -you can't evict an idea
--increasing brutality due to poverty in part generated by war and calousness in part generated by war?
 

Stan B. (123)
Friday November 25, 2011, 1:14 am
I like Bill O'Reilly. Does that make me a bad person?
 

Georgia L. (208)
Friday November 25, 2011, 3:53 am
Great idea to test pepper spray on the Faux News anchors since they were all touting it as a food product. Shouldn't be a big deal. Right? No stan...just dumb.
 

Tim L. (86)
Friday November 25, 2011, 9:28 am
People shouldn't be morons either, but that has never stopped Bill or any other neo-con.
 

Shirley A. (96)
Friday November 25, 2011, 12:56 pm
Out of the mouth of a non-viable, dumb sh*t of a man that has vitually no credibility and wouldn't know the truth or have the integrity to report it if it kicked him directly in the butt full force, which is exactly what I'd like to do to all the lying, manipulating bubble heads on the Faux channel anyway. Recent survey concluded that "Faux News" watchers are more ignorant and less informed regarding the facts in news than those that do not watch news channels at all . In other words, word of mouth from the general public is a better source of accurate news in this Country than relying on the Fox channel unless of course you're realating what they are spewing on Fox. "We report, you decide,Fair and Balanced" my ass.
 

Heather Sams (0)
Friday November 25, 2011, 1:37 pm
Keep it classy Bill, keep it classy.
 

Holly Lawrence (473)
Friday November 25, 2011, 2:12 pm
Why won't O'Reilly just go away...
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (581)
Friday November 25, 2011, 3:12 pm
There is a simple home truth O'Reilly has obviously never understood:
Question Authority.
 

Esther Z. (96)
Friday November 25, 2011, 3:30 pm
Noted. No surprise here. What can you expect from people who see pepper spray as a "food product", pizza as a vegetable, lies as "not factually correct", the criminally rich as "job creators, etc, etc. The list is long! Right wing talking heads and their lemmings live in their own disfunctional universe.
 

Michael M. (5)
Friday November 25, 2011, 4:46 pm
So Billy is calling for a police state because we don't want to ever hold cops accountable for?

Just your typical RWNJ stupidity and anti-American sentimentality.
 

Seth E. (65)
Friday November 25, 2011, 5:28 pm
I personally know some police officers (including my brother), and even they are second-guessing the use of pepper spray by some of these SS-variety thugs, so O'Reilly can stick his blind faith and obedience in the same cavity where he often seems to keep his head.

The problem is that while most of the police understand and sympathize with the OWS efforts, in some cities, pressure is being applied is from the higher-ups who are being pushed by the very 1% that OWS is fighting, and when coupled with some garden-variety bullies who came to work having a bad day/week/month/year/life, this results in some of these cases of unnecessary force.

If someone goes to work at a sandwich shop pissed off, they may spit on someone's food; if a cop goes to work pissed off, it could get an innocent person hurt or killed. Neither is excusable, but where the consequences are greater, so should be the level of punishment for such misdeeds.
 

Shirley A. (96)
Friday November 25, 2011, 5:40 pm
EXCELLENT POST SETH E. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND SO MANY OTHERS. It's ALWAYS good to know that SANITY does rule the day with the intelligent majority.
 

Charlene Rush (2)
Friday November 25, 2011, 7:55 pm
Should anyhone, in their right mind take O'Reilly, seriously?
He is a slave and accepts a lot of money for being a slave. Rupert Murdoch pays him mega-bucks to spout his conservative philosophy.

What most amazing me, is the conseritive, dummy blockheads, who actually, believe that the conservative movement will benefit them, in the end.
 

Patricia E. G. (57)
Friday November 25, 2011, 9:21 pm
Down with O'Reilly.....Up the Rebels !
 

bu s. (1)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 12:51 am
OReilley is a suck up. He is a cop admirer.
 

bu s. (1)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 12:56 am
Who does OReilley work for?
Does he still have a job?
Is he disgusting or what?
 

bu s. (1)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 12:58 am
I'll be watching you OReilley.
 

bu s. (1)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 1:05 am
Journalism used to have ethics.
Today the journalism sways from one side to another, because it has discarded the foundations and beliefs.
 

bu s. (1)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 1:10 am
OReilley is just a messenger, he gets paid to read the script.
 

John Gregoire (264)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 6:29 am
Wow, can we feed some of this stuff to Bill also? If a "reporter" doesn't recognize brutality that is so obvious, he has lost his credentials. Actually, does anyone know an unbiased reporter these days?
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 7:37 am
Noted.
 

Kit B. (276)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 8:10 am

Yes, there are some unbiased reporters, investigative reporters that travel the country or the world for stories that are developing or happening immediately. Bill O' Reilly is not a reporter, nor are most of the "talking heads" that give us their opinions rather just an unbiased news report. Bill O'Reilly is paid to influence your opinion, as are others paid to form your thinking in either a supportive or negative view on the current events. It's your responsibility to look past the 4 or 5 stories presented each day on most every channel, and then begin the effort to find the actual story and decide for yourself where the truth is hiding.

It would seem the OWS must be having at least one powerful effect. The far right are using invented stories or enhancing stories to make the OWS look as if this is a gang of thugs looking for a place to enact criminal acts. The facts are that any time a large group of people come together to express their anger and outrage of the system, those who like things just as they are will use any tactic to detract from the message. I feel sympathetic toward those who fall for such transparent efforts to detract from the movement. These are the same folks that found justification for those who carried side arms during the tea-party gatherings in '09, that are now making up silly stories about OWS. The tea-party was telling us that health care, a universal need for all human beings, was a socialist effort to destroy the country. That many of these people were also screaming to protect their Medicare/Social Security benefits is an irony not lost on the rest of us.

Thanks to most of you for reading and commenting on this topic. We should not only be watchful of police actions, we should be demanding they act in behalf of the people and not the puppet masters. If it is "COOL" for police to pepper spray a dozen students sitting in a peaceful protest, why then did they not pepper spray those who carried side arms even when they entered a gathering where the president was speaking? There is some very twisted logic happening here.
 

Janet D. (10)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 9:58 am
So stupid Bill... "I don't think we have the right to Monday-morning quarterback the police'. This would lead one to believe that the police never make mistakes on judgement calls... IMPOSSIBLE! Human beings make mistakes and we as a nation have the right to question their actions especially if our tax dollars pay for their services.
 

Marianna molnar woods (9)
Saturday November 26, 2011, 11:00 am
noted
 

Shoba Daniels (0)
Sunday November 27, 2011, 11:39 pm
dumb
 

Charlene Rush (2)
Wednesday November 30, 2011, 11:43 am
Does anyone really expect anything else, coming out of the mouth of a man, who is BOUGHT and PAID for by Rupert Murdoch?
Anything else, would shock me!
 
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