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Insane Sex Laws Inspired By Republicans


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Kit
- 952 days ago - motherjones.com
As Republican lawmakers have pushed ever more intrusive and expansive uterus-related legislation, some of their colleagues across the aisle have fired back with intentionally and equally ridiculous counterproposals.



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Kit B. (276)
Monday March 12, 2012, 1:59 pm

As Republican lawmakers have pushed ever more intrusive and expansive uterus-related legislation, some of their colleagues across the aisle have fired back with intentionally and equally ridiculous counterproposals. From mandatory rectal exams for guys seeking Viagra to prohibitions on sperm-stifling vasectomies, most of these male-only provisions have, unsurprisingly, flopped. But they've scored big as symbolic gestures, spotlighting the inherent sexism of laws that regulate only lady parts.
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óBy Hannah Levintova for Mother Jones

Please read full article...
 

Cal Mendelsohn (994)
Monday March 12, 2012, 2:44 pm
LOL--gotta love that pic--raving mad!
 

Alice C. (1797)
Monday March 12, 2012, 2:54 pm
LOLOL yes...let them make a penis probe !
 

Kit B. (276)
Monday March 12, 2012, 3:00 pm

Don't ya just wish that picture was --- mmmm, Santorum being probed by Romney?
 

Alice C. (1797)
Monday March 12, 2012, 3:02 pm
I like the Johnson ~ Oklahoma courterproposal best !
When a zygote-personhood bill came before the state Senate, Sen. Constance Johnson penned an amendment declaring that ejaculating anywhere outside a woman's vagina constitutes "an action against an unborn child." Bonus: Johnson also suggested that any man who impregnates a woman without her permission should pay a $25,000 fine, support the child until age 21, and get a vasectomy, "in the spirit of shared responsibility." In response to the same bill, state Sen. Jim Wilson proposed an amendment requiring the father of an unborn child to be financially responsible for its mother's health care, housing, transportation, and nourishment during pregnancy.


 

pam w. (191)
Monday March 12, 2012, 3:29 pm
Virginia: As the state Senate debated requiring transvaginal ultrasounds for women seeking abortions, Sen. Janet Howell proposed mandating rectal exams and cardiac stress tests for men seeking erectile dysfunction meds. Her amendment failed by just two votes.

++++++++++++++++++ JUST TWO? Oh, if ONLY we'd been there, Kit! If only......
 

Anne T. (179)
Monday March 12, 2012, 3:43 pm
Love the article, lets level the playing field. LOL :)
 

Kit B. (276)
Monday March 12, 2012, 3:54 pm

Umm...just wondering how I knew women would like this article? I do believe at long last women are finally waking to the ugly reality that this is not abortion, not about a life, this about the human rights of every woman to think and act as the adult human she is, without dictates from men.

Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

The Equal Rights Amendment, first proposed in 1923 to affirm that women and men have equal rights under the law, is still not part of the U.S. Constitution.

The ERA was passed out of Congress in 1972 and has been ratified by 35 of the necessary 38 states. When three more states vote yes, it is possible that the ERA could become the 28th Amendment. The ERA could also be ratified by restarting the traditional process of passage by a two-thirds majority in the Senate and the House of Representatives, followed by ratification by legislatures in three-quarters (38) of the 50 states. http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/
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We need 3 (THREE) more states, let's get busy gals and all the men that will help us.

 

pam w. (191)
Monday March 12, 2012, 4:20 pm
Not to seem cynical....but is there a chance in the world that, in these political times, we could manage the votes?
 

Kit B. (276)
Monday March 12, 2012, 4:24 pm

Yes, Pam with good solid organization in every state, city and town; we could manage to get the votes and I would not set aside even one state because they are seen as too right wing. Women are being pushed to the wall - I think the timing is right and it seems so does Gloria Steinem.
 

Terrie Williams (774)
Monday March 12, 2012, 4:27 pm
LOL Hell yeah, tit for tat, it is only fair that men undergo some intrusive and invasive tests for their stiffy pills as well.

I think right now would be the most opportune time to get the last 3 states. Women are very conscince riht now of what male GOP legislative buttwipes are tring to do. Now would be the best time to get the votes and pass it.
 

Terrie Williams (774)
Monday March 12, 2012, 4:28 pm
Sigh...I really hate it when my keys stick!!! That's conscious and right.
 

Kit B. (276)
Monday March 12, 2012, 4:30 pm

"Tit for tat"? Really Terrie - that makes me think that maybe men should have a penogram once a year. Just to be able to relate to one of the many realities of being a woman.
 

pam w. (191)
Monday March 12, 2012, 4:33 pm
I don't know how realistic it is, Kit...but, I'll pick up a sign and start walking! Done that before....will do it again!
 

Kit B. (276)
Monday March 12, 2012, 4:38 pm

Yep, so have I, Pam and I'm very willing to fight for the ERA - again!
 

Past Member (0)
Monday March 12, 2012, 6:59 pm
Is this a bloody Joke? Thanks Kit
 

Kit B. (276)
Monday March 12, 2012, 7:08 pm

Nope, though I find it all very funny, it is not a joke. If you read the article then you know that this is an attempt to show how ludacris all of this rhetoric about women's rights is, an attempt to shut it down.
 

William K. (308)
Monday March 12, 2012, 7:44 pm
The counter-proposals are really not all that different from what is actually being proposed, but just targeting men. Unsurprisingly, they are not too popular with male legislators. It is really a very effective way of illustrating how this is all just a matter of controlling women and their bodies, as well as putting a spotlight on the gop's hypocrisy.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday March 12, 2012, 7:56 pm
What worries me is the use of the old fashioned coat hanger.

Medical costs could be a lot higher than medically supervised abortion.

 

Mary S. (1)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 6:00 am
Just think what will happen if Rick, Newt, or Mitt get elected. Ladies, any bill the old men in the Senate and House passes will get an instant signature from them, so be careful of who you vote for for President.
 

Dandelion G. (379)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 7:44 am
What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Alright for those firing back the same crap they have been tossing out. And I agree, perfect photo!
 

Jason S. (57)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 9:14 am
Thanks for the post.
 

Susanne R. (249)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 10:38 am
Loved the article, Kit, and all the great comments! I liked Wilmington City Councilwoman Loretta Walsh's resolution to grant "personhood" rights to eggs and sperm. Combine that with Sen. Constance Johnson's proposed amendment declaring that ejaculating anywhere outside a woman's vagina constitutes "an action against an unborn child," and we've got a very interesting situation on our hands. Imagine law enforcement having to inspect every hand, tissue, drain and/or pair of jockey shorts for murder victims? Ridiculous? Of course! But then so are the restrictions being placed on the reproductive rights of women.

I also like your "penogram" idea but think that a testiclogram would be just as important.

Thanks for posting this article, Kit!
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 10:42 am

Good ideas Susanne, one could only hope that these articles will stimulate some action by women to mobilize to finish the work of the ERA.
 

Jim Phillips (3209)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 11:57 am
What states have ok'd the ERA and what states have not...?
Anyone know the answer? Write in here and I'll check back later.

Way pass time to get The ERA passed. Other countries have done so already. If memory serves me
right, the Good Ole USA is one of the few countries in the world that has not ratified the ERA.

Ty, Kit.
.
 

LaurenSICK Kozen (159)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 12:09 pm
Noted. Thanks Kit.
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 12:11 pm

The thirty-five states that ratified the amendment are: Alaska, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.

Five of those states rescinded their ratifications for various reasons. There is some question as to the legitimacy of the rescissions. This is partly due to the question of whether the states were only rescinding incorrectly worded procedural resolutions but still ratifying the amendment, and partly due to the issue of whether ERA questions are moot because the deadline has passed. The five states that rescinded their ratifications are: Idaho, Kentucky, Nebraska, Tennessee, and South Dakota.

The states that have not ratified the ERA are: Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Utah, and Virginia.
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(1) The ratification process of the Equal Rights Amendment, which began in 1972, might remain open because the time limit is in the resolving clause rather than in the text of the amendment.

(2) Ratification of the ERA over three or more decades can be considered sufficiently contemporaneous, since the 203-year time period for the 27th Amendment was considered so.

(3) The existing 35 state ratifications remain potentially viable if three more states ratify the ERA.

(4) Congress retains authority to declare the ERA ratification process valid after the 38th state
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http://www.4era.org/threestate.html
 

Gary A L. (135)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 12:38 pm
thanks kit i was raised to believe in fair play boy some of those good old boys could use a good anal probe to see if that's were their brains are
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 12:42 pm

Not so sure even that probe would find brains, but it's a thought.
 

Alice C. (1797)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 12:47 pm
Agree Susanne, A testiclogram is must along with an STD screening before a man is allowed over a woman's home with a bottle of wine ! : )
 

Fred Krohn (34)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 12:48 pm
All of this symbolises why I don't regard either 'major' party as fit to run a Popsicle stand, much less the nation. Get Congress out of our private lives!
 

Kit B. (276)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 1:01 pm

There is nothing that does allow these people into our private lives or decisions we make for our private life. That is exactly why states are pushing forward with these invasive, intrusive laws.
 

annelies j. (71)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 1:05 pm
Yep, and let a women do the testing, and she should make sure her hands are as cold as some of the hands of the male doctors who have touched us women. The only healthcare provider who was thoughtful enough to make sure her hands were not cold as icicles, before touching me, was a woman. , She's my nurse practitioner who works with my OB GYN.
 

Bonnie B. (103)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 1:40 pm
Thanks for posting this, Kit! How about we have a congressional committee to debate this.... of course it should be ALL women on the panel for a little more tit for tat!
 

pam w. (191)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 1:45 pm
The states that have not ratified the ERA are: Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Utah, and Virginia.
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++++++++++++++++ Not exactly HOT BEDS of respect for women or FERTILE FIELDS for feminism, are they?
 

Rebecca Y. (26)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 1:58 pm
The only way those Republican males will listen to females is if we have their penis in one hand and a sharp knife in the other!
 

Sue Matheson (72)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 2:47 pm
good grief
 

ewoud k. (73)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 3:08 pm
Don't these lawmakers have anything better to do?
 

Barbara Goheen (0)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 3:44 pm
some of these are too weird to even think about.
 

Gloria H. (88)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 4:02 pm
Maybe Repubs will ban wire coat hangers? Or put warnings on them, like this could cause an abortion if mishandled. Little tracking devices on hangers? Do you have a permit to carry a coat hanger?
If you can't beat the crazy repubs with their nutty obsession on fear of female parts and pieces, out crazify them!
 

Charlie Rush (56)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 4:55 pm
This article MADE MY DAY!!!

It's been a long time waiting, for liberals to get back in the game.
 

Ra Sc (8)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 6:50 pm
The ridiculous laws do raise a good point. Essentially, people are protesting that it is unfair that babies aren't born. This is actually an important part of the Mormon teachings, which think you need to birth a lot of babies to give them a chance at existing, because there are souls just waiting around to be born. But most people do not feel that not having a baby is a bad thing if you don't want one. Yet, Republicans keep trying to force women to have unwanted babies. Being deprived of being born isn't harmful to anyone, since harm only makes sense in the context of someone being harmed. If I had never been born,t hen I wouldn't be around to care or mind at all. I wouldn't be harmed; I just wouldn't be.
 

Matloob ul Hasan (81)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 8:21 pm
Noted, thanks :)
 

Stephen Brian (23)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 9:02 pm
Funniest news I've seen all day.

Thanks Kit! :)
 

Susan S. (191)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 9:10 pm
This is an excellent article to get people to really think what is behind the attempts to control women's personhood by instituting controls over their bodies. When the shoe is on the other foot it makes men squeamish....for instance suggesting that a 'sperm' and an 'egg' have equal status, and therefore vasectomies and abortions are on par is an earthshaking concept. What if men were regulated in the same fashion as women are?
 

pam w. (191)
Tuesday March 13, 2012, 9:23 pm
If they were, Susan....I suspect this would be a MUCH different world!
 

Mari 's (1364)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 5:58 am

You cannot currently send a star to Kit because you have done so within the last week:)
 

Mary Donnelly (47)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 6:20 am
Thanks Kit.
 

Stephanie G. (0)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 6:26 am
Why are they butting into our sex lives?
 

Kit B. (276)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 8:49 am

Join the fight for the ERA:

Equal Rights Advocates is a nonprofit legal organization dedicated to protecting and expanding economic and educational access and opportunities for women and girls.

Until equality is secured for all

http://www.equalrights.org/volunteer/join.asp

The Equal Rights Amendment

Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/

In 1996, the Congressional Research Service of the Library of Congress issued a memorandum ("Equal Rights Amendment: Ratification Issues") concluding that the 203-year ratification period for the Madison Amendment does in fact have implications for the three-state strategy, and the question is more political than constitutional.

The NCWO also encourages the introduction and passage of ERA ratification bills in the 15 states which have not yet ratified it. For an update on the status of ratification bills in the unratified states, click here.

It's up to YOU women or men to support passage of the ERA, and in doings so end this long going struggle for simple fairness. You can be involved - if you want.
 

Cecily P. (4)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 8:54 am
I don't know whether to laugh or cry!
 

pam w. (191)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 10:53 am
OK, Kit! I sent a meager mite to the struggle....let's hear it for Pay Pal!
 

Kit B. (276)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 11:01 am

Money through PayPal is a good start, and thanks Pam. Now get involved with the organizing of women in those states that we need. It's not necessary to live there to help out. Make phone calls to all of Congress - Both Houses. Phone calls by law must be recorded, emails and letters can be trashed. Let them know we are serious. I have yet to hear one good reason why the ERA should not be passed, one reason why women should not have and be treated with equality.
 

Ben Oscarsito (316)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 11:32 am
With soooo many insane republicans... -What else can you expect...???
 

Vivien Green (150)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 11:51 am
Kit I am with you regarding mobilising women. I think women have become complacent thing this type of chauvinism was in the past. However the Republicans and people like that idiot Lambaugh misjudged the power of sisterhood. i think this has given a wake-up call to women around world .
WATCH THIS SPACE!!!!
 

Dotti Lydon (113)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 12:23 pm
Thank you for the article, Kit, and all your good comments.
 

Michael T. (82)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 12:31 pm
Thanks Kit. LOL. I was already tormented by the visual of this article on MotherJones. I also learned the following.

Wow, I just read that I might face a felony conviction for masturbating. Sheesh. Georgia says I canít have a vasectomy because I am depriving thousands of children (unborn) of life while Ohio says that I canít use Viagra and should remain celibate instead, which of course is diametrically in opposition to what Georgia believes. Oklahoma in certain specific circumstances wants to require vasectomies for men who impregnate women against their will, and criminalize a man ejaculating anywhere outside a womanís vagina. Missouri thinks "In determining whether a vasectomy is necessary," the bill reads, "no regard shall be made to the desire of a man to father children, his economic situation, his age, the number of children he is currently responsible for, or any danger to his wife or partner in the event a child is conceived." And Delaware recognizes the personhood of semen.
 

Michael T. (82)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 12:39 pm
What all this makes me wonder is what is the purpose of this upsurge by Repubs who claim they want less government intrusion as they pass more and more intrusive laws.

It frightens me to learn that there are people who support these efforts.

I'm still trying to come to terms with why? Is it really what the GOP aims to do, or is it as some pundits suggest, an effort to play some kind of shell game causing us to look away from more important issues? Are they creating a gender and class war for a particular reason? Which in itself is another thing they slam the president for and yet they are taking up the gauntlet with far greater fervor? Am I missing something? What is the agenda? Or is it simply to take us all back 50 or 60 years? Simply to divide the country as much as they can?
 

Kit B. (276)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 12:46 pm

Welcome to the Orwellian world, Michael. This time around it's religious zealots we must watch, and clearly stop.

I do believe much of this is a distraction, the republicans bash Obama, yet they offer no workable plans and have no platform. How will Romney pay for the proposed huge in the military while cutting taxes for the rich even more? Oh, where has logic and rational thinking gone?
 

pam w. (191)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 1:57 pm
Kit's right...it's a SMOKESCREEN. They've no plan to "fix" anything, so they begin making a big FLAPDOODLE about easy targets....women, for example and unprovable nonsense about the President. (I would NOT be surprised to see him accused of being a SPACE ALIEN!)

I'm hoping Santorum is the Republican candidate.
 

Kit B. (276)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 2:08 pm

No matter who it is, it's gonna be a long ugly battle of lies and deceptions, and still I do believe that Obama will win.
 

Carmen S. (612)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 2:54 pm
Thanks Kit, wish they would focus on the real issues, such as the economy, and not what people are doing with their bodies.
 

Tracey O. (38)
Wednesday March 14, 2012, 4:32 pm
Thanks kit for the perfect article. I had heard of a few of these but have not seen it broken down state by state. I think it is wonderful that women legislators are fighting back in some way & these laws are simply brilliant.
 

Quanta Kiran (65)
Thursday March 15, 2012, 3:15 am
Thanks.
 

Ellen Emerson (14)
Thursday March 15, 2012, 5:09 am
OMG too funny KIT B. "Don't ya just wish that picture was --- mmmm, Santorum being probed by Romney?"
 

. (0)
Thursday March 15, 2012, 8:35 am
Noted, thank you.
 

Beth F. (2)
Thursday March 15, 2012, 11:36 am
While I understand the sentiment behind these "counter measures", it comes across as somewhat childish. Believe me, these anti-women laws are very disturbing, and it needs to stop. But these laws for men just creates even more discord and hostility. In the meantime, truly important issues are being overlooked...or perhaps this is a way to divert our attention. Who knows?
 

Muriel Servaege (48)
Thursday March 15, 2012, 12:51 pm
This sounds ... childish to me and ... I am really not interested.
 

monka blank (81)
Thursday March 15, 2012, 4:45 pm
Thanks Kit, I like the penogram. Hope for the ERA !! Think of the future...
 

Teresa Cowley (274)
Friday March 16, 2012, 5:54 am
Personally, I love the idea of a testiclogram--those plates pinching the sensitive testicles of the GOP just makes me smile!! That is, if they have any testicles to pinch!!
 

Deb L. (3)
Sunday March 18, 2012, 5:47 am
Spineless cur! They pick only on those them deem weak and incapable of defending themselves. They will rue the day! The fight has just begun!! GRRRR!
 
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