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The Lonely Plight Of The Gay Republican


Society & Culture  (tags: activists, americans, culture, education, gayrights, freedoms, government, politics, religion, rights, society )

Kit
- 808 days ago - andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com
Yes, Grenell was prepared to work for an administration opposed to marriage equality even when he supported it passionately (like, ahem, Dick Cheney). He was prepared to be ostracized by many in his own community for being a Republican, taking brickbats->



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David C. (29)
Thursday May 3, 2012, 2:07 pm

In his own words

I have decided to resign from the Romney campaign as the Foreign Policy and National Security Spokesman. While I welcomed the challenge to confront President Obama’s foreign policy failures and weak leadership on the world stage, my ability to speak clearly and forcefully on the issues has been greatly diminished by the hyper-partisan discussion of personal issues that sometimes comes from a presidential campaign. I want to thank Governor Romney for his belief in me and my abilities and his clear message to me that being openly gay was a non-issue for him and his team.
 

Kit B. (277)
Thursday May 3, 2012, 3:01 pm

In do hope that before commenting you read the article. This is not a left/right issue. This is social issue one of civil rights and more of universal tolerance and acceptance. Is the fact that this man gay now his identity? If so we still have a long way to go, as sexuality does not define the person, nor his/her humanity.

What would Jesus say? I firmly believe he would have said, "Bless you my son." Nothing more and nothing less.
 

Kit B. (277)
Thursday May 3, 2012, 8:29 pm

I doubt that is why is a republican, I think Richard Grinnell like many others, follow the party because they do think this is the path for balanced budgets and to increase the flow of goods and services. Though history shows that for the most part both parties follow very much the same ideas along these lines, but messages get clouded. Particularly during election years, ideas and beliefs get lost in the language of campaigns.
 

Esther Z. (101)
Friday May 4, 2012, 10:53 am
Noted.
I've never understood why anyone who's gay would even think of being a Repug or be a card carrying member of the Log Cabin. Yes, yes, I understand the need for some to be part of a conservative group who's ideology is closer to one's fiscal views. But, really what good are fiscal policies, if those laws can only be enjoyed by straight folks? To me, being a Gay Republican is an oxymoron, just like an Republican union worker. Why be part of a party that oppress you, ridicules you and really just wants you not to exist? From what I know of Mr. Grenell, he pretty much got what he deserved. It's pretty sad to see him give a public statement where he mentions his gratitude for "Governor Romney, for his belief in me". It would had been better if Romney's "belief" in Mr.Grenell had included speaking up for him and defending him from the right wing base that never wanted a "gay activist" to be part of the Romney campaign. All things considered, I guess loyalty to Mr.Grenell would had been too much to ask from Romney and his Republican ilk.
 

Brian M. (145)
Friday May 4, 2012, 10:57 am
They can call it a log cabin all day, but it's still just a closet.
 

John B. (215)
Friday May 4, 2012, 12:06 pm
I raed the aticle and I don't understand why he dosen't Join the Dem. Party as a moderate Dem. Thanks for the posting Kit.
 

Doyal D. (10)
Friday May 4, 2012, 3:13 pm
He's Republican by choice; he's gay by an act of God.
 

Yvonne White (231)
Friday May 4, 2012, 3:16 pm
The man is not stupid, he had to know what he was getting into - I have to Seriously Question the Sanity of ALL RepubliCONs. But he could always be a Blue Dog Democrat, like SO many RepubliCONs before!;)
It kinda reminds me of Archie Bunker asking Sammy Davis Jr. why he he would become Jewish when he already had two handicaps (being Black & blind in one eye)!;)
 

Allan Yorkowitz (452)
Friday May 4, 2012, 4:09 pm
I believe this article was way off base. Political beliefs, and social ,religious beliefs do not always mix. Wyatt in Missouri recently came out, and the party did not run from him.
To be a gay Republican certainly puts you in the closeted minority - it doesn't mean you don't agree with their economic, and diplomatic issues.
How many Democratic presidents would not have a Jew in their administrations: Kennedy, Johnson,Carter, Truman ,(Bess would not invite a Jew to the White House);yet, the Jewish population largely votes Democratic.
It's not that the Jewish people were unaware of this, they sided with what they perceived as a more liberal group in terms of entitlements. The Jewish people hooked into Johnson's Great Society program, thinking it included them - boy, were they wrong.
Nixon brings in Kissinger, Ford keeps him. Clinton back peddles to a non-Jewish cabinet.
 

Lloyd H. (46)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 12:55 am
Oh, please let's cut the crap. Gay Repugnicans are a self-endangering species. Regardless of how knuckle dragging their political ideology, foreign policy and economics the Christian Taliban of America theocratic agenda puts them in the cross hairs as undesirable fourth class citizens, some where below women and non-whites, and may God help you if you are Gay female and non-white.
There is also the fact that Grenell is a total misogynist, which means that the Romney camp may have been happier to see him gone because of their abysmal poll numbers with women voters than the fact that he was Gay. Just because the lying ilk of Fisher et alia crow and take credit for some thing does not mean that they are actually calling the shots.
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 3:02 am
The far-right bigots are the only real "base" that Romney has; and they objected to a gay person, and Romney just caved in as he always does, no principles of his own whatsoever.

President Bush also employed some gays; but Bush gets more slack from the bigoted far-right because Bush was a "real" born-again Christian; Romney, a Mormon, is not in many of their eyes, a "real" Christian, so Romney has to toe their line much more strictly and obediently!!!

Gay people and all of us, their allies, can NOT afford to "sit this election out" and note vote for Dems because they are somewhat less than ideal candidates {far, far from ideal!}. A Romney presidency would undo a decade of advances in Human Rights -- not only in the U.S., but around the world -- new "Kill the Gays" bills would be introduced in Uganda and African countries, for example, and there wouldn't be an American president and State Department to disapprove and threaten sanctions....
THESE SAME AMERICAN RELIGIOUS FANATICS, ARE BEHIND THE "KILL THE GAYS" LEGISLATION IN AFRICA and the whole upsurge in promoting Homophobia in Africa, where most countries, aside from Colonial legislation, had NO ANTI-GAY TRADITIONS before....
If Romney gets elected, make no mistake about it, if Romney gets elected, the HOMOPHOBES WILL BE RUNNING THE COUNTRY THEIR OWN WAY. Back to Gay-bashing, discrimination and even legalized MURDER -- look at Uganda and see what the anti-Gay agenda means to individual men and women.....
 

BMutiny TCorporationsEvil (467)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 3:08 am
This from Andrew Sullivan:

if a fire-breathing neo-conservative like Grenell, who was prepared to stay silent on his support for gay marriage, cannot be tolerated then this shows Romney’s “fundamental weakness” against the far-right social conservatives. He writes that: “Grenell was prepared to stay silent on gay issues entirely and do his job. But that wasn’t enough. Romney’s anti-gay agenda is therefore deeper and more extreme than Bush’s.”

Sullivan points out that, yes, the campaign tried to get Grenell to stay and, yes, privately, other Republicans tell him they’re dismayed at events. But none of them are prepared to publicly speak out against people like Bryan Fisher. He writes:

The gay-inclusive elements in the [Republican] elites simply do not have the balls to tackle the religious right. And this is particularly true of Romney, as this case now proves. The Christianists gave Bush a pass on social issues because of his born-again Christianity. They trust Mormon Romney not an inch. And this week demonstrates without any doubt that Romney will therefore not be able to deviate from their wishes an iota. He has no room to maneuver. The notion that he could be a moderate on social issues in office is, alas, a pipe dream."


 

Angela N. (0)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 2:01 pm
thanks :)
 

Richelle Rausch (43)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 5:18 pm
Don't know what to say here that won't offend someone. So won't.
 

Michael T. (82)
Saturday May 5, 2012, 6:51 pm
Gay conservatives, like their heterosexual counterparts, generally reject welfare and affirmative action, and are opposed to immigration. They have strong libertarian leanings in that they believe in limited government, individual rights, and individual "responsibility"- values they claim to share with the majority of American people. These conservative values contribute to the ideological tensions intrinsic to gay conservatism. The principal tension is between their conservative values, which lead them to support the status quo, and their pariah status within that status quo. Like many gay religious people, gay conservatives have beliefs that are part of a structure that often excludes them.

They can and are quite intolerant of their liberal brethren.

As Kit said, this is also very much and more so about how the retrenched representatives of the white male patriarchal hegemony which treats people who do not maintain the same sexual practices as they do as subordinate and detestable. Many conservative gays who espouse the conservative views of the GOP work for the GOP espousing this, hoping that the GOP will come to understand that they need them and eventually accept them. With the incisive nature of the xtian Right this is a very difficult situation. I am not surprised Mittens took some time before he responded to this specific issue.
 
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