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Is man-made climate change, and the level of carbon in the atmosphere, shifting in El Niño events along with it? Or should we chalk it up to coincidence? "We need a lot more data," Cobb says

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Kit B (276)
Monday January 14, 2013, 1:42 pm
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Imagine this is your office: a tropical island skirted by coral-packed azure waters, somewhere near the equator between Hawaii and Tahiti. Your job involves a lot of swimming. Tough, huh? "My field research is the best part of my job," says Kim Cobb, Associate Professor of Climate Change at Georgia Institute of Technology. "It's probably the reason I have stuck with corals for the last 15 years."

Stuck with, and collected and sampled. For the past seven years, Cobb and her lab team have been recontructing the history of El Niņo events across several millenia by taking core samples from corals in the Pacific. That process has uncovered reams of fresh climate data. And it's within this new, longer baseline of temperatures from the tropical Pacific that Cobb spotted something surprising: "The 20th century is significantly, statistically stronger in its El Niņo Southern Oscillation activity than this long, baseline average," Cobb says. El Niņo events have gotten worse.

That led Cobb to wonder: Is man-made climate change, and the level of carbon in the atmosphere, shifting in El Niņo events along with it? Or should we chalk it up to coincidence? "We need a lot more data," Cobb says. But Cobb's 7000-year baseline study should push researchers in the right direction to discover more connections between Earth's complex climate systems, and the role man-made climate change is playing.

Cobb's results have been published in the latest edition of Science.
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By: James West | climate editor | Mother Jones Magazine |

Yvonne White (229)
Monday January 14, 2013, 3:10 pm
I'm laying the blame for intense man-made climate change right on the RepubliCON Party's door-step! They can't deny that their fear-mongering, hate-spewing, anti-EVERYthing EXCEPT war & devastation has caused HOT tempers that equate to hot temperatures! Two wars & many "interventions" HAS to have consequences on climate! The MidWest has certainly seen drought, with localized flooding(!), while Katrina & Sandy wreaked havoc..and it ALL links back to that ungodly eruption of Hot Air known as CONgre$$!!!! D.C. has caused more wreck & ruin than anyplace on earth (including Mt. Vesuvius! It should be hermetically sealed & quarantined like the plague it is on the world... Okay, I must go put my head in the freezer for a minute to cool down..;)

Past Member (0)
Monday January 14, 2013, 4:36 pm

Kit B (276)
Monday January 14, 2013, 4:40 pm

Yvonne, get your head out of the freezer and keep on ranting - I love reading it. YG!

JL A (281)
Monday January 14, 2013, 6:01 pm
Profiteering polluters protected by politicians....

Kit B (276)
Monday January 14, 2013, 9:40 pm

Oh my goodness alliteration!

Kerrie G (116)
Tuesday January 15, 2013, 1:52 am
Noted, thanks.

Suzanne L (98)
Tuesday January 15, 2013, 10:04 am
Quick and to the point. Thanks for posting Kit.

Craig Pittman (52)
Tuesday January 15, 2013, 12:16 pm
By the time all the data is in it may well be past the time anything can be done to prevent further degradation of the environment and climate. It will be interesting to see what 2013 brings in the way of unusal weather patterns.

Kit B (276)
Tuesday January 15, 2013, 12:26 pm

Most of the climate scientists are moving with extreme caution these days. They are confronting a heavily "non-science" way of thinking, possibly not seen since the Middle Ages. Interesting that the same folks that question every word on the science of climatic changes are also those who have no hesitation in taking full advantage of all the modern technology available from science, to include medical advances, computers and cell phones...etc, nauseam.

Lois Jordan (63)
Tuesday January 15, 2013, 12:59 pm
Thanks, Kit. Many scientists say we have passed the tipping point. As research continues and more evidence piles up, the naysayers don't have a scientific leg to stand on....all they have is ignorant verbal protests condemning science. I'll be glad when I see the major media shift to call out these fools and "shift the discussion," much the way the discussion was shifted during the Vietnam War. I clearly remember Walter Cronkite's words during that time....he helped "change the game."

Gene Jacobson (290)
Tuesday January 15, 2013, 1:27 pm
"That led Cobb to wonder: Is man-made climate change, and the level of carbon in the atmosphere, shifting in El Niņo events along with it? Or should we chalk it up to coincidence? "We need a lot more data," Cobb says. But Cobb's 7000-year baseline study should push researchers in the right direction to discover more connections between Earth's complex climate systems, and the role man-made climate change is playing."

We do NOT have time to collect a lot more data. As Lois pointed out, most, not many, I've seen estimates as high as 98%, climatologists now believe we HAVE passed the tipping point. If that is so, we can collect data until the planet freezes over, again, and extinguishes our sorry species forever. The only part of that which is acceptable to me is that the real criminals, those who created this massive change in the last 100 years, are going out along with the rest of us. I wish Al Gore would update his An Inconvenient Truth with the last 7 years data as ALL of those indicators have risen since 2005, every single year. 2012 was the hottest ever recorded. So how does heat create freezing? See Al's documentary for the science of it, I've written it often enough here. Science can no longer predict El Nino or La Nina events, even when all the indicators point to one or the other, the opposite happens. Last year the predictions were for a snowier, colder winter in Minnesota, get ready they told us for a bad one. We did get ready. And then had the warmest winter on record, about 12 inches of snow in two little storms the evidence of which was gone in a day, our "normal" 60 inches? Nowhere in sight. March is our wettest month, last year we had not a DROP of precipitation the entire month and for a month where we finally, usually, see a few days in the high 40's? We had a full week in the 80's right smack in the middle of the month. This year? Well it is cold a couple days, then warms and it rains - rain in January, TWICE already and it is midmonth. These ridiculous oscillations are going to continue, they are going to get wilder and more frequent, larger more devastating storms every year until the ocean vectoring systems shuts down and we all find out what it is like to live under a mile of ice. Even at the equator. What that IS like? Impossible. That is the future, that is the legacy of the 1% those so unfeeling that they don't even care what they are condemning their own descendants, along with all of ours, to. I hope those names are not lost in the fossil record, I hope evidence of who did this survives so that the next sentient species to arise can know what happened and who brought it about. And not repeat the nightmare that life will be over the next 200 to 400 years until the light of homo sapiens dims and dies forever.


Yvonne White (229)
Tuesday January 15, 2013, 2:18 pm
I love alliteration!;) You cannot currently send a star to J.L. because you have done so within the last week.
Right on Lois & Gene! I think the Vietnam War was the last straw for Climate Change & we should have started reverse-engineering right then..but now we need to learn how to live Differently, invest in renewables, Help Save the Rain Forests, STOP urban sprawl & deforestation, Break Up Big AGRA-business!!! and do everything we can individually to save money, while saving electricity/heating & cooling/oil & gas... and it doesn't hurt to move Inland..the Coasts are gonna be a bitch from now on. Meanwhile I can wait for MY rural hilltop to become river-front property..;)

greenplanet e (155)
Tuesday January 15, 2013, 5:51 pm
I think she means "more data" on how increasing CO2 levels affect El-Nino-La-Nina patterns specifically (with consequences presumably for people, habitats, agriculture, plants etc in those regions).

Many now know that increased anthropogenic CO2 in the atmosphere is producing overall climate change globally and that we need to cut anthropogenic CO2.

Theodore Shayne (56)
Tuesday January 15, 2013, 6:02 pm
Alright you guys; which one of you reprobates has been strumming the ionospheric HAARP again?

David C (139)
Wednesday January 16, 2013, 7:30 am
90 seconds well spent....

Yvonne White (229)
Wednesday January 16, 2013, 2:48 pm
LOL Theodore, I'm just whistling in the dark..;)

Past Member (0)
Wednesday January 16, 2013, 4:05 pm
Thanks for this article.

Judy C (97)
Thursday January 17, 2013, 12:01 am
I do think we must all keep a very open mind, because bias doesn't mix well with science. For myself, I definitely believe that we humans are having an impact on climate change. Like the author says, we need much more data. We are dealing with highly complex systems, with a zillion variables. For the most part, only in the lab do we see "a" causes "b" in a very definitive manner. In the lab, we can achieve a high level of control over our variables. To complicate things further, in the real world, the variables often interact, sometimes magnifying, sometimes weakening one another's effects. The more data, the better.

For the everyday world, it certainly appears highly probable that human activity is accelerating climate change. The more we learn, the better the ways we can hopefully find to slow down this process. It's too bad that this issue has been politicized, because so much ignorant discourse catches the attention of people who wouldn't know science if it bit them in the butts. And then there are the so-called scientists who are paid corporate shills, and they know just how to appeal to the ignorant or closed-minded. I'd say to them, it's much better to err in taking more precautions, than to find out too late that we should have!

Mary L (132)
Thursday January 17, 2013, 5:58 pm
It's a coincidence only if you think a person with chocolate around their mouth might have something to do with the missing piece of chocolate cake is a coincidence.

Kit B (276)
Thursday January 17, 2013, 6:01 pm

Great comments by so thanks and appreciation.
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