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John McCain, Rand Paul Take on Hillary Clinton on Benghazi - (With Videos)


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Kit
- 696 days ago - politico.com
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton defended her department's handling of the attacks on the U.S. diplomatic outposts in Benghazi under sometimes fiery questioning from Republican senators.



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Kit B. (276)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 9:32 am
(photo credit: Rueters)

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton defended her department’s handling of the attacks on the U.S. diplomatic outposts in Benghazi under sometimes fiery questioning from Republican senators.

The most pointed questions came over two hours into the hearing from Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who called many of Clinton’s answers before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee “unsatisfactory.” Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said he would have fired Clinton over Benghazi had he been president, and that her departure from State indicated she accepted the blame for the attack.

“The American people deserve to know answers and they certainly don’t deserve false answers. The answers given to the American people on Sept. 15 by the ambassador to the United Nations were false,” McCain said, referring to Susan Rice’s statements that the attacks on Benghazi were spontaneous demonstrations and not intentional terrorist attacks. “In fact they were contradicted by the classified information which was kept out of the [Rice’s] report.”

McCain jabbed: “Why do we care? Because if the classified in formation had been included, it gives an entirely different version of events…if you want to tell the American people [information] and tell them what happened then you ought to have your facts straight.”

“I understand your very very strong feelings,” Clinton responded. “You knew Chris….you were one of the staunchest supporters of the effort to dislodge [Moammar al-Qadaffi] and try to give the Libyan people a chance. And we just have a disagreement. We have a disagreement about what happened, and when it happend and with respect to explaining the sequence of events.”

At the hearing, Republicans repeatedly pressed the former New York senator on the official description of the attack in the days following the Sept. 11, 2012 tragedy that killed four Americans, including U.S Ambassador Chris Stevens.

Clinton was visibly emotional at times, especially when she talked about the death of Stevens, foreign service information officer Sean Smith, and two members of embassy security personnel, Glen Doherty, and Tyrone Woods. And she was combative at times under tough questioning from McCain.

“For me, this is not just a matter of policy… it’s personal,” she said. “I stood next to President Obama as the Marines carried those flag-draped caskets off the plane at Andrews. I put my arms around the mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, sons and daughters.”

In her opening statement, Clinton also reiterated that she took personal responsibility for the Benghazi attack.

“As I have said many times since September 11, I take responsibility. Nobody is more committed to getting this right. I am determined to leave the State Department and our country safer, stronger, and more secure,” Clinton said.

“Taking responsibility meant moving quickly in those first uncertain hours and days to respond to the immediate crisis and further protect our people and posts in high-threat areas across the region and the world. It meant launching an independent investigation to determine exactly what happened in Benghazi and to recommend steps for improvement. And it meant intensifying our efforts to combat terrorism and support emerging democracies in North Africa and beyond.”

Clinton said that immediately after the attack she “stayed in close contact” with officials both here and in Libya.

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Clinton answered sometimes pointed questions from senators on the timing of the attack, new threats in Northern Africa, and funding for security in embassies around the world.

Paul (R-Ky.), who is eyeing a run for the White House in 2016 and is a new member of the committee, said he was glad Clinton was “accepting responsibility” and ““I think ultimately with your leaving you accept the culpability of one of the worst tragedies since 9/11.”

“Had I been president at the time … I would have relieved you of your post,” he said. “I think it’s inexcusable.”

Senator Jim Risch (R-Idaho) questioned Clinton’s role in coming up with talking points used by U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice and why administration officials initially characterized the assault as spontaneous rather than deliberate.

Clinton said she was not involved in the selection of Rice to speak on the Sunday talk shows. She added that it was clear to her, as she said the day after the attacks, that “heavily armed militants assaulted our compound.” But with several simultaneous protests happening around the world, it was difficult to understand the exactly why the attack occurred.

“I personally was not focused on talking points, I was focused on keeping our people safe,” she said.

But she had little patience during a tense exchange with Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.) who asked why evacuees from Benghazi were not immediately questioned about the cause of the attack.

“A very simple phone call to these individuals would have ascertained very quickly there was no protest,” he said, charging Americans were misled by administration talking points.

“With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans,” she said with her voice rising. “Was it because of a protest or was it because a guy goes out for a walk one night and decided to go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator.”

“I saw first-hand what Ambassador Thomas Pickering and former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen called ‘timely’ and ‘exceptional’ coordination. No delays in decision-making,” she said. “No denials of support from Washington or from the military. And I want to echo the Review Board’s praise for the valor and courage of our people on the ground — especially the security professionals in Benghazi and Tripoli. The Board said our response saved American lives in real time – and it did.”

As protests erupted around the world, Clinton said she immediately ordered a review of security procedures “with particular scrutiny for high-threat posts.” She said she stood with President Barack Obama the next morning when he referred to the attack as an “act of terror.”

Clinton addressed the steps that State is taking to implement the recommendations of the so-called Accountability Review Board and said she’s “putting into action” all of the ARB’s recommendations. She said she created a new position — the deputy assistant secretary for high threats — in response to the attacks. She called the position “something that should have been done a long time ago.”


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The pair of hearings — this morning’s before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and this afternoon’s at the House Foreign Affairs panel — are a long time in coming, after a health scare delayed the former first lady’s previously scheduled appearance before lawmakers.

The morning’s hearing room in the Hart office building was packed with press and spectators, there to see Clinton who looked healthy in bright green and glasses.

This is likely Clinton’s last trip to the Hill as secretary of state. And all eyes will be on the former New York senator to see how she handles the grilling from her former colleagues, with whom she has maintained mostly good relationships.

Clinton had planned to testify last month but sustained a concussion and later a blood clot that needed treatment. The illness kept her out of work for over a month — she didn’t return to work at State until Jan. 7 and still hasn’t taken any overseas trips.

Two deputy secretaries of state — Thomas Nides and William Burns — testified in front of the House and Senate panels in her place.

The Senate hearing is being led by Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.), as the committee’s chairman, John Kerry (D-Mass.), has been nominated by President Barack Obama to replace Clinton when she leaves the State Department. New House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Ed Royce (R-Calif.) will lead the afternoon panel. Kerry’s confirmation hearings begin on Thursday.

In his opening statement, Menendez praised Clinton’s work as secretary, calling it “outstanding.”

Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker, the new top Republican on Foreign Relations, said at the hearing that the attack on Benghazi was indicative of a “denial of the world as it really is today.”

“I know that you have known this and many members on the committee have known this that the death of Osama bin Laden was the death of al Qaeda and nothing could be further from the truth,” Corker said. “The Arab Spring has ushered in a time where al Qaeda is on the rise.”

Corker questioned how many of the review board’s recommendations were being implemented and said said none of the recommendations of past ARBs had ever been put in place.

“Senator, that’s not accurate. I heard you say that when Bill Burns and Tom Nides were here,” Clinton said. “And it shocked me. So, we went back we did a full and thorough investigation and the vast majority have been implemented.”

The timing of the disclosure of Clinton’s medical condition drew some on the right to accuse the secretary of purposefully dodging public questions about the Benghazi attack, but Corker said the secretary has been “forthcoming” about the matter. Clinton had previously briefed all lawmakers in closed-door sessions on Capitol Hill in September.
***See Videos, photographs and links within article at VISIT SITE*****

By: Kate Norcea | Congressional reporter | Politico |








 

Arielle S. (317)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 11:03 am
Pompous arses making as much as they can about this and we know darn well it's more for political pose than because they really care or understand the situation. Hell hath no fury as a woman who knows she's right and I hope she socks it to 'em...
 

Abdessalam Diab (150)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 12:23 pm
R.I.P.Chris Stevens.
R.I.P. Sean Smith.
R.I.P. Glen Doherty,
R.I.P. Tyrone Woods.
 

Kit B. (276)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 12:46 pm

Thank you, Abdessalam. I know we all share that expression of sympathy for those who were killed in the Benghazi attack.
 

Barbara K. (75)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 1:30 pm
Too bad the stinky Republibaggers cut the funding that the State Dept. nearly begged for. The Rs cut security and funding, and if there had been more security, this may not have even happened. But of course, they will look for scapegoats instead of admitting that they denied them enough security, and that is really why this whole thing happened. Hoping they wise up and realize when security is requested, they should provide it.
 

Diane O. (167)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 2:37 pm
As a republican, I've always liked Hillary Clinton. Don't ask me why. Perhaps it's because she is a woman in a man's world and she is married to a president who was impeached for lying under oath about yet another sexual embarrassment to her.

I felt sorry for her today.
 

Jim Phillips (3202)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 2:52 pm
Remember folks, do not feed the g o p troll.

The g o p pukes cut funding for security in our embassies before the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks
and killings occurred at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi.



Ty, Kit.
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Kit B. (276)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 3:07 pm

Feel sorry for Hilary? That woman just took on the Senate and the House and scored 2 knocks outs. Feel sorry for those who attempted to take her on, they should have read the facts before coming to the meeting.
 

Barbara K. (75)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 3:18 pm
Absolutely! Hilary can hold her own and can take them down with the best of them. lol. Go Hillary! Thanks, Kit for this posting. The Rs were shown up for the dummies they are. They need to learn to stop playing politics and take care of our country. Just saying NO to everything is doing nothing.
 

pam w. (191)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 4:30 pm
SHE ROCKED! If anyone has ANY doubt about her ability to speak appropriately on her feet.....she showed them today that she's as capable as anyone I can think of!

They attacked her for purely political reasons (John McCain should hide his face in shame) and she stood her ground!

I was proud of her!
 

Lin Penrose (92)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 4:48 pm
Thanks for the great article Kit. McCain and Rand are two "twirps" trying to cover their own back sides by attacking Hilary Clinton. A familiar scene of those who have something to hide. Some of you who have children may see similarities. Ms. Clinton has been and is, a very strong, intelligent, courageous woman with stamina. I wish she had become the first women president of this country. I voted for her and I would again.
 

En A. (0)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 5:06 pm
Paul Ryan and John McCain are not even in the same class as Hilary.
She is totally dedicated and didn't take months off like the Congress.
 

Esther Z. (96)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 5:33 pm
Just when I think the Repugs have hit a new low, they come out with another reprehensible act. For the Repugs to use the death of four Americans for their political grandstanding, is just appalling and repugnant to me. I'm glad this was televised; it showed the admirable qualities of Hillary Clinton, as the Secretary of State and future presidental candidate, and made obvious the political agenda of those congressional idiots that will do anything to collect political points.
 

Judy C. (100)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 6:00 pm
Hillary Clinton is a strong woman, with far more class and intelligence than the people trying to attack her. Rand Paul acted like a punk, and she put him in his place. It's easy to use hindsight, and say she should have done this or that. She did the best she could, and accepts responsibility as the top person in the State Department for whatever happened. She was dealing in reality, not in what should have been done if she was omniscient. At the same time, she refused to participate in the Republicans' game. More power to her!
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 6:39 pm
That was one lame witch hunt. The right reminds me of lying children. Petty is important. Serious is dismissible. In the end, these a holes won't get their impeachment and they will move on, spending all of their energy searching for the next screw up but never getting it. They will only succeed in giving out more secrets. I remember when this stuff wasn't for our ears as a matter of national security and every one was okay with it. Now, these a holes will expose anything to get that elusive impeachment. What a waste when we're in a depression.
Did you hear? 110 million americans are now on some sort of assistance for poverty because of their economic policies. America is insane, now.
 

Linda S. (0)
Wednesday January 23, 2013, 7:04 pm
As a Canadian, what happens in the U.S. has a significant impact on our Country. Saying this I fail to understand Americans voting for the Republican party. After watching the hearings today I was struck by the stupidity of the Republican Senators who were part of the Committee investigating the State Department. In addition the many other issues: budget, people's rights, the political workings with most levels of government, manipulating peoples' voting rights to name a few. Where did common sense go? I do not want to believe Americans who voted for Republicans seriously support their behaviours. With the world viewing the U.S., are Americans really support the many childish behaviours?
 

Diane O. (167)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 1:57 am
Jason, you are correct "America is insane now." To better understand why we are where we are we must look at why so many Americans are on some sort of assistance from the government. They don't have a job. They don't have the education to get a decent job. This administration has killed the growth of jobs by ignoring the importance our small businesses play as the job engine in our country for the middle and lower middle class. Obama chose to ignore our small businesses early in 2009 and opted to go for his legacy healthcare bill which has failed for all intents and purposes.

Ask Obama why so many Americans are without jobs.
 

Jim Phillips (3202)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 3:51 am
Hillary Faces Down The Angry Men
From simpleton Ron Johnson to delusional Rand Paul, GOP senators swung at the Secretary of State and hit themselves.

LINK: http://www.alternet.org/gender/hillary-faces-down-angry-men?akid=9967.176640.HQM3JA&rd=1&src=newsletter782060&t=9

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Carlene V. (203)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 4:58 am
McCain proved, once again, why he is not President and Rand Paul showed us why he never will be. The grandstanding was so apparent, giving their ridiculous political speeches instead of really trying to find out how to keep this tragic event from ever happening again. The Republicans in Congress would not release the funds allocated for protection in places like Benghazi but they are too cowardly to accept any responsibility and continue to wag the dog. Clinton was outstanding and much to their dismay, she proved herself to be presidental, something none of them come close to.
 

John Gregoire (264)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 5:50 am
I very seriously think John McCain has gone over the edge. He had horrible experience as a POW in Viet Nam and for the last several years has been showing severe symptoms of what I would call PTSD. I no longer believe he is for to serve in this position.
 

Aileen C. (36)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 6:18 am
GO HILARY GO FOR PRESIDENT IN 2016
Wow she is good.
The Republicans are just "Dogs in the Mangers" preventing every act of Pres.Obama for just PURE OBSTRUCTIONISM....Traitors to the best interests of their own country!!
 

Ro H. (0)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 6:25 am
Like Esther Z's reference to REPUGS, so appropriate. Hillary ROCKS
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 10:10 am
You are so ignorant of the facts, Diane. Massive job loss started in 2006/2007. ALL on bush and his free capitalism BS. Right wing obstruction takes place so we don't show them up. What would have happened if FDR had the same obstruction? Your soooo ignorant!!!!

Can you keep this BS up for 4 more years?
 

Diane O. (167)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 10:16 am
Jason, can you keep lying the way you do for four more years? Educate yourself:

Download: Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4
2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.7 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.9 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.6 5.8 6.1 6.1 6.5 6.8 7.3
2009 7.8 8.3 8.7 9.0 9.4 9.5 9.5 9.6 9.8 10.0 9.9 9.9
2010 9.8 9.8 9.9 9.9 9.6 9.4 9.5 9.5 9.5 9.5 9.8 9.3
2011 9.1 9.0 8.9 9.0 9.0 9.1 9.0 9.0 9.0 8.9 8.6 8.5

This proves you are a liar. 2006 unemployment at its highest 4.8%

2009 unemployment at its highest: 4.8%

Notice when the unemployment doubled and has stayed there.


2012 8.3 8.3 8.2 8.1 8.2 8.2 8.2 8.1 7.8 7.9 7.8 7.8

And here's my link, pal: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 10:23 am

I went to the site for department of labor statistics and find it not in agreement with those above posted numbers. http://www.bls.gov/

This article is about Hilary Clinton and the meeting she had yesterday with each house of Congress.
Please stay on topic.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 10:25 am
So, I moved my 401k to low risk in march of 07 just because? I started buying gold, up to $800 at the same time just for kicks? I must be insane! How could I possibly know what I was doing was the right thing?
I didn't get laid off until 1/1/2008. Are you really that ignorant, Diane? YES you are and your chart proves it. You saw nothing coming where I did. My right wing inlaw lost everything ($280k) because he wouldn't listen to me.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 10:27 am
Sorry Kit. Diane needs me to ride her where ever she chooses. I still can't send you a star:)

To this day, she's never won an argument. Fox will do that to you.
 

Jim Phillips (3202)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 11:27 am
Top Ten Republican Myths on Benghazi that Justify Hillary Clinton’s Anger

http://www.alternet.org/world/top-ten-republican-myths-benghazi-justify-hillary-clintons-anger?akid=9970.176640.ZQvgYQ&rd=1&src=newsletter782577&t=7
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Kit B. (276)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 12:08 pm

Thank you Jim for returning us to the topic. (Is this a kindergarten classroom?)
 

Elizabeth M. (68)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 1:20 pm
Read and Noted. Hillary Clinton is a very strong woman and can stand on her own, no matter what they try to sling at her. She took full responsibility for this incident, as the Secretary of State. She definitely feels very badly for the four lost in Benghazi, and may they RIP.
One thing I found completely unacceptable was the remark from Paul (R-Ky) "I think ultimately with your leaving you accept the culpability of one of the worst tragedies since 9-11." There were other remarks, but that one hit me the wrong way.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 1:27 pm
Diane. You don't understand. Your fox view doesn't matter. We don't want or need to hear your misinformation. We know better.

When I got laid off, 4 million had already gotten laid off in the months before. Your chart can't be right. See how reasoning works? Once you can toss the BS from the trolls, you're on your way to the truth. and it is uggggley!
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 1:28 pm
Viva Hillary!!! :)
 

Diane O. (167)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 3:22 pm
Hillary has sealed her fate as far as 2016 is concerned. Any way you size it up, Hillary is on the chopping board.
 

Jennifer C. (169)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 6:14 pm
Thanks.
 

JL A. (276)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 6:52 pm
IMO Secretary Clinton demonstrated why she's usually viewed as exceptionally competent and capable--sometimes known as on the "cutting edge."
 

Kit B. (276)
Thursday January 24, 2013, 7:05 pm

I completely agree with that, she is an exceptional woman. Whether she decides to run in 2016, is an unknown, but she has demonstrated her skills in the as the First Lady, in the Senate and now for her tenure as Secretary of State.
 

Lois Jordan (58)
Friday January 25, 2013, 2:48 pm
Noted. Thanks, Kit. I hated watching the Repubs pounce on her, and was so glad to see her give them back what they deserved. But, it was hard to watch for me when I was screaming at the TV, "why didn't you call out Condoleeza Rice like this?!"
McShame definitely needs to be put out to pasture. I never vote for him. Hopefully we can get rid of him in the next election....will work hard on this myself.
 

Dee C. (210)
Friday January 25, 2013, 3:27 pm
She certainly held her own and then some..
Hope she does run..She would certainly get my vote..

Thanks Kit..
 

Robert B. (58)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 11:36 am
Yes Hillary has sealed her fate, as some little voice said. As a competent and superior intellect to those in the GOP. If she decides to run in 2016 She'll win. And she has my vote.
 

Arielle S. (317)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 11:37 am
Diane asked why Obama didn't defend Hilary (if he had, she would have said he was interfering...sigh) - we all know that Hillary can take care of herself but now I do see that Obama agreed to an interview on 60 Minutes on Sunday on the condition that Hillary be there, too - Previews show him saying he just wanted to thank her for all she has done (the reporter did mention how highly unusual it is for a President to agree to share the spotlight with anybody but then we do know that Obama is not just some president....)
 

Barbara K. (75)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 11:53 am
Yes, Arielle, I've been looking forward to that interview too. Will record it just in case I want to see something again, after the thugs start dribbling their lies down their chins.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 12:05 pm
Thanks, Robert.

I've never known a female lawyer to not be an exceptional woman. She made a spirited statement about the witch hunt and set the stage for her witch hunters to look like witch hunters. Sure helped to show Rand Paul's incompetence!
 

Diane O. (167)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 3:27 pm
The 60 Minutes airing is a photo opportunity for Obama and it will show that Hillary isn't off her rocker. I'm speculating, of course, but I also think Obama is going to back Joe Biden in 2016 and once again throw Miss Hillary to the curb, unless, of course, Biden will need her as Vice President on the ticket.

As a republican, I am down on my knees praying that Joe Biden runs in 2016.
 

Diane O. (167)
Saturday January 26, 2013, 3:30 pm
Just remember their past history, Hillary and Bill, and if she runs for Prez in 2016....Bill's multiple affairs, Whitewater, Vince Foster's suicide, Monica Lewinsky, Bill's impeachment....Benghazi....they didn't whip the internet of their past history.
 

Jason R. (66)
Sunday December 29, 2013, 8:38 am
http://www.care2.com/news/member/113088365/3693068

Please note…

Months of investigation by The New York Times, centered on extensive interviews with Libyans in Benghazi who had direct knowledge of the attack there and its context, turned up no evidence that Al Qaeda or other international terrorist groups had any role in the assault. The attack was led, instead, by fighters who had benefited directly from NATO’s extensive air power and logistics support during the uprising against Colonel Qaddafi. And contrary to claims by some members of Congress, it was fueled in large part by anger at an American-made video denigrating Islam.


It WAS the video! You people are disgusting to the human race.
 
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