Wednesday June 19, 2013, 6:44 pm
Image Credit: asiandatingmonthly.com -
This is not the presentation I might chose, but what he is saying is undeniably correct. We just do not expect to hear this. We don't expect any one to directly address the Rich - Poor, Black - White lines of division, where they come from, and how we got here. I think this gets to some raw truths.
Wednesday June 19, 2013, 7:59 pm
Excellent! Just wish he'd included one more little known fact that in the beginning there were Black elites with property and slaves, including white slaves who weren't indentured servants, and a lot of the property distributed to lower class whites was confiscated from them when their status was rewritten by color. Thanks Kit.
This is not really about slavery for the sake of slavery. Which in the United States is almost exclusively about wealthy white farmers using the labor of black slaves for higher profit margins. This more about the mind set that connects the wealthy and the poorest of whites, back then they used one device, today the device looks different but is much the same. You are included in our exclusive club, they are not. Why do people openly defend the Koch's? Why do so many defend the 'foot on our neck' tactics of the corporate elite? Because they so want to be a part of that, if they can defend it, maybe some of that green will rain down on them. Step back, listen and think about those that defend the elites, those who openly despise any thing or any one not a direct part of their stratosphere of wealth, pay attention to how these folks are used, how they justify being used, and how easy it is to have people stand openly to bring down those things that are in their best interest.
Thursday June 20, 2013, 10:04 am
I bet they don't teach that they tried to enslave native Americans, but couldn't control them.
History rewrites itself, maybe they are waiting for the revision?
Thursday June 20, 2013, 7:48 pm
Just a note: although the vid is not just about slavery, there are more people enslaved (eg through trafficking) now than there were back in the days of we think of as slavery.
Thursday June 20, 2013, 10:04 pm
the Emancipation Proclamation made slavery legal for the government ONLY. That why we have so many people in jail, especially young pot smokers so they can be used as slave labor...
Friday June 21, 2013, 7:25 am
Slavery: A curse on mankind for thousands of years...
The issue is worth studying. It isn't black and white (no pun intended). A few facts:
* Hundreds of thousands of white British and European people were captured and sold as slaves by North African barbary pirates around the 17th century...
* Most of the black African slaves were sold to white slavers by other black Africans...
* The white slavers used verses from the Bible that condone slavery to justify their dark deeds..
Friday June 21, 2013, 1:29 pm
Interesting, and most of what he says stands.
It' just that I don't think it's a White/Black problem, but just a Have/Have-not division. In Northern Ireland both groups were whites, in France during the revolution the same thing, and there lots of examples alike. The Have/Have-not separation in the US just is the same as the separation, of skin-color.
Friday June 21, 2013, 4:04 pm
As a teacher, I would like to note that almost all the text books are written in Texas, and then we have what each state adopts. There has rarely been much made of the civil war or slavery or civil rights. I don't know why it's Texas, but I know we have to supplement text books.
Not exactly Linda. Texas has a "bill of particulars" content the text book must contain. Because the standards must be met, to sell a text book in Texas, people make many assumptions about this. Other states do not have this minimum standard. Texas, like all states does have people or committees that write text books, but all texts are not written in Texas. Supplemental texts are the choice of teachers even in Texas.
Friday June 21, 2013, 6:43 pm
This video does a good job of explaining the divide and conquer game, and how the class just below the elites are stupid to serve the richest people, and keep the rabble in line, so they can recceive a few more crumbs. They seem to believe that if they do the elites' dirty work, they may even move up themselves. In reality,they are as enslaved as those on the bottom, but they are likely to be oblivious to to that fact, because they are somewhat better off than those in the lower classes. This is like the relationship between the 1% and the .01%. The lackeys in our political system are protecting the elite. I think Obama sold his soul to the elites, and he has abandoned the principles he once stood for. OR maybe he was just a flim flam man to begin with. So, most of Washington lets the elites suck up everything they can from the people, who are handily divided, and the Earth. It's a sick and sickening game.
Friday June 21, 2013, 6:50 pm
A fascinating, and somewhat disturbing, discussion. I rather knew slavery was at the heart of the Civil War, but it's always nice to hear one's convictions verified. As a Northern-born citizen myself (even if I have lived most of my life in the South), my sympathies are rather slanted in the direction of the Union. I keep hearing people down hear celebrating Rebel generals, and I want to ask them why they venerate war criminals, but I don't want to get slapped (or worse), so I keep that particular comment to myself.
As others have said, slavery still exists, in the form of sweat shops, Who do you think pores over iPhones and such, ruining their sight and manual dexterity for little or no pay? And I think I've read slavery such as we had in the U.S. still exists in underdeveloped countries in Africa or the Middle East (though I'm not sure of the last one).
Friday June 21, 2013, 6:53 pm
And as a further note, not many people know that both George Washington and Thomas Jefferson (and probably others I can't think of at the moment) were wealthy, slave-holding plantation holders. I still admire them for what they did for our country, but don't approve of that.
It was, of course, a different time, with different moral values; I have to remember that.
And yet, some how it remains about the constant use of people to "divide and conquer" and not about Islam.
This is clearly about the ruling class and the rest of us, how people are manipulated and used against their own best interest.
This is not about religion, though that case could be made, it is not the direct topic here.
Friday June 21, 2013, 9:10 pm
Kit, you are describing Islam more than you know. "Divide and conquer", the "ruling class and the rest of us", "how people are manipulated and used against their own best interest" ALL describe the global situation with Islam.
For there to be a discussion about what is missing from history lessons, and not to prominently mention Islam the most brutal ideology on the planet, is shameful. You clearly are against people taking advantage of others, and I commend you for that. However, we cannot avoid dealing with Islam. Islam is not, not has it ever been, a passive system but an actively imposing system, responsible for the oppressing, enslaving, raping, torturing or millions upon millions, and the murdering of 270 million non-Muslims, continuing through today. Islam is so destructive that the number one cause of murder of Muslims is...Muslims.
In Islam, there are two groups - Muslim and non-Muslim. Per Sura 3:110, Muslims are the best of peoples. This is Islamic supremacism. All others, like you and me, are described as the vilest of animals (Sura 98:6) and filthy like feces (Arabic word "negis" in Sura 9:28), which is why non-Muslim like you and I would be beheaded for entering the "holy" Muslim cities of Mecca and Medina. Would you express outrage if there was a sign around entrances to Manhattan which says "no filthy Muslims allowed"? Why? if you would then you MUST express outrage at the fact that not only do those signs exists all around those Saudi Arabian "holy" cities, but any non-Muslim trying to enter would be legally murdered! If that isn't "them vs. us" then I don't know what is.
As far as "people being manipulated and used against their own best interest", this is exactly what is going on through Saudi-funding in the millions upon millions of our universities, stacking them with anti-American professors, as our students are brainwashed when they are most vulnerable - having to listen or get a bad grade. Manipulation of the American people at large, disarming us by whitewashing Islam, is going on by our media, government and education system. By not informing the American people how dangerous Islam is, based on its bloody history and bloody present all based on its doctrine of Qur'an and Muhammad, we are being manipulated and used against our own best interest.
The terrorist group the Muslim Brotherhood, with members throughout our government, clearly teaches their goal is to destroy Western civilization and replace it with Islam. This imposing teaching is based on the most authoritative teachings in Islam.
If you don't want female genital mutilation to be legal in the US, along with the testimony of a woman being worth half that of a man, a woman needing 4 male witnesses to prove rape, pedophilia, polygamy, a female inheriting only half that of a male, sex slavery, and a whole host of misogynist teachings and practices, then with every fiber of your being you must speak out against the spread of Islam. Speak out against the legal rape of even Muslim females in Muslim countries, with Pakistan for example having 75% of its female prison population being rape victims. Yes, there are there FOR being raped! And since they are considered "whores" it is not unusual for the guards to rape them again. In Iran they tie nooses around the necks of pregnant rape victims and hoist them up by their necks. Why? They could not produce the required 4 male witnesses to rape per the Qur'an in Sura 24:4, 13.
In Sura 9:29, Muhammad final major sermon, Muslims are to subjugate non-Muslims as inferior so we feel ourselves subdued. This is not an abstract concept. Under Muslim rule you, especially as a female Kit, would be forced to live as a semi-slave. Actually, if you are an Atheist you have to convert or be killed. if you are Christian or Jewish then you are given the choice to die, convert or live under the penalty tax and accept Muslim as superior over you. In this subservient state, if you dare to speak out against anything Islamic, like Grown Muslim men legally raping prepubescent girls under the guise of marriage, then your subservient status is forfeited and you will be killed. Even if you don't do anything or say anything, a Muslim can just rape and kill you and, per Muhammad's words and the Pact of Umar, "a Muslim will not be killed for killing a non-Muslim." This is not theoretical Kit. This is what is in practice in Muslim countries. And this is what practicing Muslims are actively pursuing to implement in America through legal lying (4 forms of lying to non-Muslims allowed in Islam), manipulating our system of free speech to destroy any speech critical of Islam, playing victim like Muhammad did when he was not in power, and all other forms of jihad, including Boston. As a nation, if we continue to ignore Islamic doctrine and those who truly adhere to it, Boston will become more and more common. This is the plan laid out in the Qur'an. This is how Muhammad advanced Islam. That is why, when Muhammad was in the minority, he spouted peaceful verses like 2:256 "no compulsion in religion" and "109:6 "unto you your religion and me mine". But as he gained in power he started pillaging and murdering to fund his growing army, enticing Muslim men with captive females as legal sex slaves - as property. Yes, females as property. PROPERTY!!! if you think as a non-Muslim female that no one has the right to make you their property, then you've just insulted Muhammad. If you say that in a Muslim country, bye bye Kit. I don't want to see that happen to you. But pretending that isn't Islam, based on Islamic doctrine, won't make it go away. In fact, not exposing it and this ideology's advancement in America will only serve to expedite Islam being imposed on America.
I, for one, do not want Islamic Shari'a law governing this country. I want laws to remain which protect little girls from "marriage", in other words, laws which punish pedophilia. I want laws to remain which prevent a female from having her genitals mutilated. I want laws to remain which prosecute people for murder, instead of Muslim country laws which, based on Islam, allow for parents and grandparents to kill their own child. The justification? If they feel their child isn't Muslim enough. The same for honor killings of wives and sisters. If they are deemed to cause fitna (dissension by doing or saying anything deemed un-Islamic) then they can be legally killed according to Islamic law. I want such perverse actions to remain punishable according to our Western laws. That is why I speak out against Islam, and you should too. I don't care if you are Jewish, Hindu, Christian, Atheist, Buddhist, young or old...if you want to preserve the freedom in Western culture then you must speak out against Islam.
Saturday June 22, 2013, 10:09 am
Deflection. This video had nothing to do with Islam. I'm so tired of going into topics that have nothing to do with Islam and yet someone seems to pull it into the fray to speak their Agenda. Please go post your own story on it, but you add reams of information on here that has nothing to do with the video.
I'm glad the man is speaking out very CLEARLY on what he has. It is Truth that needs to be heard. I've said before on many comments that we need to stand in Solidarity on this one, young and old, of all skin tones and yes all religions or none if that is choice. Not only are individual people in poverty and suffering due to this pitting one against the other, but the very Earth is being ravaged and sick because of it.
Thank you Kit, sorry your thread has been hijacked.
Saturday June 22, 2013, 11:43 am
Nothing has changed for this country. It started out with the elite paying for the passage of "regular" folks, who were willing to work (with the promise of land to be given to them after a period of indentured servitude), to the new world. The elite have always wanted to keep this country for themselves and what this man was saying in this video I have been saying for as long as I can remember. If the people of this country would just quit their jobs for one week, the elites would take notice, but no. He has nailed it on how this country (and many other countries, as well), are kept under the control of the elites. I also want to say one thing about "language" that he didn't touch on. The elites don't want a universal language in the United States and there is a reason for that. If we can't all communicate, we will remain divided. For that very reason alone, everyone in this country should be wanting to speak English, since it is the language of the majority. It is absolutely wonderful if people can speak their own native languages as well, but if we all knew how to communicate and spoke the same amongst all people, the differences would not be as blatant as they are now. Face it. When you are in a store in the United States and people are speaking a language you do not understand, it is a little "unnerving", isn't it? When someone speaks with such a strong foreign accent that you cannot understand them, it is a little irritating. And you can't help but say to yourself, "why can't they learn better English if they are going to live here?" Some might say we shouldn't have any kind of requirement for one language here, we are all free to be of our own people ... but the way to keep the people separated is by language. Allow them all to speak their own tongues and they will NEVER come together. The very first thing that was done to Native Americans in trying to get them 'assimilated" was to take away their ability to speak their own language. It was known then that if they could continue to speak in their own language, they would never assimilate into the "white" way of life and they could always ban together again against them. But now, that is what the elites want. They want us all to be fighting for our "own" way of living in this country because that keeps us from joining against them as one people. Get all of the people speaking one language and quit making the division easy for the elites. He was dead on with his assessment of the true situation. It is now and always has been the elites against the non elites. The haves against the have nots. But as long as they can keep us all separated we will continue to fight each other. And not being able to communicate with one another will always keep us separated. My relatives did not speak this language when they came to this country, and some did not speak this language when the elites came to the lands they had lived on for ages, but they realized that they had to learn one language that all could speak if they wanted to move forward. We cannot continue to have different kinds of people living their own way of life here in this country and even dream of ever living in peace amongst ourselves. It won't happen. And the elites knew it wouldn't when they allowed all kinds of people from all over the world to come here in order to work for them. I didn't mean to hijack the post, Kit. Sorry if it seems I did. I just think that Language is a huge barrier to bringing people together and it is used by the elites under the guise of allowing everyone their own "freedom" of expression. This was a good video ... leaves the door open for much discussion.
Saturday June 22, 2013, 11:58 am
That is exactly what has happened. A brilliant analysis of how the elites, the 1%, have managed to keep power and grow. Divide and conquer is not a new strategy, but it certainly isn't taught in this way in school I've ever attended or heard of. This IS the history, of history, not only of this country, but the countries our ancestors fled to come here. Color is the most artificial distinction of all, yet the most common as well. Remove our skins and we are all the same. We bleed red blood, we can procreate, we can transplant our organs, we are one people on one world, and all the divides us artificial, there is nothing real about any division based on race, creed or orientation. That is the truth of us, and the elites of every century have used it to keep us docile and amenable to their suggestions to fight their wars for them, to make them ever more solid in their gated communities or in the past, their moated communities. Dr. King was right, know the truth and the truth shall set you free. Nothing else ever could.
Saturday June 22, 2013, 3:26 pm
Yes J. You are quite correct about there being rich black slave owners in the Upper South. Also, the majority of people in the South couldn't afford slaves. The percentage of those owning more than ten slaves was 1% of the population.
BTW Deb the denial of culture and language was imposed not just on First Nations but on the Cajuns and the Irish too to some extent.
I submitted this with some trepidation that it might not be well received because it is a longer than normal Care2 video. I decided those who wanted to listen would, the rest is out of my control.
Thanks Michael, that is also a needed bit of information. So many did watch and completely understood the reason for this submission. We really must begin to pay attention, not to the superficial distractions, but to just what is being done, how we are being used and manipulated to serve the desires and needed of that very small percentage of the people. I am still aghast that the use of those words are coming from me, not to enhance a conspiracy theory, but to recognize what we are confronted with, and a manipulation it is.
There are just too many of you here to list all the names for fear I might miss one. To all that did understand this video and offered even more by leaving your comments, I thank you. When possible that thanks was in the form of Green Star, but I thank you again.
Rahman Qureshi is religion is a choice. If you wish to rail against Islam, please do feel free to submit your article for those who are like minded will certainly join you.