Friday November 6, 2009, 4:41 pm
As we enter flu season, scientists and public health officials are ramping up efforts to combat the expected rise in cases of H1N1 flu. Hospitals, doctors' offices and clinics started receiving the vaccine earlier this month, but so far it's only available in limited quantities and will have to be allocated piecemeal across the country. And some experts predict that the H1N1 epidemic will peak before the majority of vaccine doses can be produced.

The most common method of making flu vaccines requires chicken eggs to incubate viral strains. It takes three eggs to produce a single dose of H1N1 flu vaccine. Vaccination of every American would require more than 920 million eggs.

If that sounds like a big number to you, try asking a chicken farmer. Thankfully, America's modern agriculture system makes production on that scale possible. For now.

If the latest fad of animal-rights activism continues, however, our capacity to produce eggs -- and vaccines -- may be threatened.

Last fall, Californians voted to approve a ballot initiative advertised as promoting animal welfare. One of the things that law actually did, however, is require that egg-laying hens be raised without cages.

Proposition 2, as the measure was called, received major support from the so-called Humane Society of the United States, a "humane society" in name only. (HSUS essentially functions as a richer and more policy-oriented sister to the better-known wing nuts at People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals.) Groups like PETA and HSUS are driven by an animal-"rights" agenda that seeks the end of animal agriculture as we know it...... more

Friday November 6, 2009, 4:49 pm
oooooooooowwwwwwwww cowboss peeps need to read this.

Big Gorilly Hugs

Friday November 6, 2009, 8:23 pm
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Friday November 6, 2009, 11:42 pm
The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit corporation run by lobbyist Richard Berman through his Washington, D.C.-based for-profit public relations company, Berman & Co. The Center for Consumer Freedom, formerly known as the Guest Choice Network, was set up by Berman with a $600,000 “donation” from tobacco company Philip Morris.

Berman arranges for large sums of corporate money to find its way into nonprofit societies of which he is the executive director. He then hires his own company as a consultant to these nonprofit groups. Of the millions of dollars “donated” by Philip Morris between the years 1995 and 1998, 49 percent to 79 percent went directly to Berman or Berman & Co.

Richard Berman is an influence peddler. He has worked out a scheme to funnel charitable donations from wealthy corporations into his own pocket. In exchange, he provides a flurry of disinformation, flawed studies, op-ed pieces, letters to the editor, and trade-industry articles, as well as access to his high-level government contacts, who are servants of the industries he represents.

Berman’s name might sound familiar. In 1995, Berman and Norm Brinker, his former boss at Steak and Ale Restaurants, were identified as the special-interest lobbyists who donated the $25,000 that disgraced then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who was hauled before the House Ethics Committee for influence-peddling over the money. Berman and Brinker were lobbying against raising the minimum wage.

Richard Berman is a spin doctor. For example, he has argued against a Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD) initiative to lower the blood alcohol content (BAC) limit for drivers by claiming that the stricter limits would punish responsible social drinkers. He has claimed that U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) warnings about salmonella-related food poisoning are just “whipping up fear over food.”

Here’s how an internal Philip Morris memo described Berman’s spin: “His proposed solution would broaden the focus of the ‘smoking issue,’ and expand into the bigger picture of over-regulation.” Smoking won’t kill you; over-regulation will.

Berman is “a one-man wrecking crew on important issues.” His approach has been described as “misleading” and “despicable.” Berman has been called “a tobacco company whore,” but he’s branched out since then.

Using “freedom of choice” as his battle cry, Berman has now taken on PETA and a number of other groups and organizations whose points of view could have an impact on the profits of his clients by waking consumers up. Berman’s Guest Choice Network has an “advisory panel” whose members in 1998 included officials representing companies ranging from Cargill Processed Meat Products and Outback Steakhouse to Minnesota Licensed Beverage Association and Sutter Home Winery. Berman’s clients are companies with vested interests in low employee wages; cheap, unhealthy restaurant-chain food, particularly meat; and tobacco, soft drink, and alcohol consumption—companies like Ruth’s Chris Steakhouse, Armour Swift, and Philip Morris, whose product line includes Kraft Foods and everything from Marlboro cigarettes to Oscar Meyer wieners and which is a major shareholder in its former subsidiary Miller Brewing, now known as SABMiller.

PETA’s recent successes in gaining fast-food industry concessions for more humane conditions for farm animals have sent ripples of fear through the food and beverage service industry. About the same time that McDonald’s buckled to PETA’s demands, Richard Berman changed his front group’s name and stepped up his attacks.

The key to Berman’s aggressive strategy is, in his own words, “to shoot the messenger ... we’ve got to attack their credibility as spokespersons,”—an interesting remark from someone whose background and funding so severely challenge his own credibility.

Saturday November 7, 2009, 3:58 am
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Roseann

Are you denying that Peta is doing as alleged? That is THE POINT!

cowboss

Saturday November 7, 2009, 10:09 am
They are torturing Billions of hens daily in this world. It really does not matter to them where the eggs come from as long as they have plenty of medicine for the human race to keep on keeping on destroying everything in our sight. Right now I have a lot more sympathy for those poor hens than the greedy monsters running those factory farms and many memebers of the human race that could not give a damn about anything or anyone else!!!! Greed and violence will kill us all not the flu!!! They are so blind they can not even see the noses on their own ugly faces. This has othing to do with Peta this is pure TORTURE billions of innocent hens on a daily basis!!

Saturday November 7, 2009, 10:27 am
Tierney

Gotta agree with you on the "Greed and violence will kill us all not the flu!!!" part! BUT did you see the pictures of the line ups for the "vaccine"?

Factory farming and CAFOs are to be CONDEMED, SUSTAINABLE FARMING is NOT!, Maybe I should repeat that, Sustainable farming SHOULD, and MUST BE SUPPORTED!

cowboss http://cowbossatwscc.blogspot.com/

Saturday November 7, 2009, 10:43 am
Yes I agree about the sustained family farmers. It is the factory farming ,that is where all those eggs are coming from. I am hoping that the family farmer would not treat living hens like machines without feelings or basic needs. To do this is going against all decency which we as a race of beings have failed at miserably.
besides they have a much more effiecient method of dispersing the flu withot the use of hen eggs but are not using it!! I believe more and more people who are finding out the truths about factory farming will keep this fight up for decency of humankind if nothing else. We have to stop VIOLENCE OF ALL KINDS in this world or it is our very fast demise.

Saturday November 7, 2009, 10:57 am
The problem with this article is that it just so much chicken crap. These are LOBBYISTS on the side of the factory farms and restaurants who want to keep doing damage on the cheap. It's like when the Insurance Cartel sent people out to say that health care reform was all about killing off grandma. Pfui!

We can and must have sustainable food supplies. It is not necessary for anyone to be cruel, it's just more profitable for the cretins to be cruel. They are trying to use a pretend shortage to scare people into endorsing cruelty out of fear. Remember the mushroom cloud argument Bush used to justify the war in Iraq? This is exactly the same thing and shame on all of us if we let it work on us, our friends and family, or our neighbors and colleagues. The way to stop the manure spreading (and I'd know, I'm a farmer's daughter) is to call out the liars Each and Every time on Each and Every Lie.

NO MORE MANURE! No more crap. Stop trying to scare us into supporting your cruelty for profits - we're not buying it and we're not putting up with it any more either. The lack of H1N1 vaccine has NOTHING to do with humane egg farming AT ALL. It has to do with the incompetence and corruption during the Bush Administration (when the whole thing started, remember) and with that same incompetence and corruption continuing by Bush appointees and hirings that we're still stuck with.

SPREAD THE WORD - WE CAN HAVE ENOUGH VACCINES WITHOUT BEING CRUEL. NO MORE LIES. NO MORE MANURE SPREADING IN OUR DIRECTION.

Saturday November 7, 2009, 11:05 am
if you can't get massive quantities of eggs without torturing chickens, maybe you should find another way. consumer freedom=i don't give a damn about anything but myself

Saturday November 7, 2009, 11:12 am
This influence peddler is at it again. And the yellow streak of greedy S H I T S from the corporates span the globe behind him.

If we as humans cannot survive without the torture of another species we should cease to exist - PERIOD.

Saturday November 7, 2009, 11:29 am
tierney your so right thanks cowboss for this story

Saturday November 7, 2009, 12:32 pm
This must be from another arm or should or should I say tentacle or maybe even testicle as the content is mostly balls, of the meat etc sponsored, anti Peta websites. Where big business sets it self up as the self appointed progenitor of all things wholesome! Sadly some in the animal welfare and vegan camp have swallowed the propaganda and tripe inversely directed against them by cynically self interested groups behind manipulating Petas campaigns as anti fat people and goodness knows what other lies that appear to have been attached to that long line with all it's baited hooks! Modern day life is so thwart with PC itis that one is denied free speech for fear of causing offence to someone by virtue of their race, appearence, colour, size, religion, diminuative genitalia, sexual orientation, tatoos, age, membership of care2, dietry choice, trade union or political affiliation class, background, lifestyle, make of vehicle, disability illness etc etc or whatever. Does not give one a lot of room to be offensive does it. However neither does it give one much room to be constructive or the thought police are demanding immediate emasculation but of course they don't actually know why or what they are complaining about, just that it might not sound nice. So if the "Hard Boiled" activists want to protest the inhumane conditions in battery egg and chicken farms then maybe shock tactics are a good counter to millions of hours of garbage pumped out in the media. They are obviously making a significant impact or the factory farming propagandists would not be in a frenzy of scare mongering and blatant obfuscation regarding Peta and similar campaigns. When one considers the bilions of animals that have been sacrificed along the vaccine and other medication route to test their efficacy you would have thought some bright spark would have designed a more reliable and easily mass producable incubator for live vaccine than warm chicken eggs! What have these clever scientists be doing with all those animals over the years, not to mention the billions of dollars spent on research! They cannot even tell us if the stuff works and of course the billion dollar answer is if it does it wont the next time the virus changes it's overcoat for one of a different pattern, which is one of the reasons flu protection generally is not that good as the naughty little viruses will not stick to the rule book! The only 100% vaccine is the one that politicians have been given which is the AM1 or anti morality one! I don't believe there is a reported case of a moral politician anywhere in the world and strangely enough it does not work on animals! The British Egg Maketing board long since defunct I think as well as stamping lions on eggs had a slogan " go to work on an egg" there is an interesting website memorialising the tv adds which apparently were banned in 2007 as not offering a varied diet which to me is typical PC itis as how on earth can you offer a varied diet when promoting one type of food except of course the stuff you might put with like the ubiquitous chips or veggie sausages etc. Clearly this slogan is behind the lack of an alternative for vaccine production as the scientists are still going to work on an egg!

Saturday November 7, 2009, 1:04 pm
Factory farming must end!!

When will people wake the f*ck up, take responsibility for their actions and realize that every action you make there will be a reaction of some kind??

If you are not part of the solution then you ARE part of the problem.

Saturday November 7, 2009, 1:05 pm
Oh, BTW I really do think that PETA is a cult. I don't trust them either.

Saturday November 7, 2009, 1:10 pm
I see the threat of taking the farms down to Mexico, and I can see that happening. One thing in all this that has been forgotten is the fact the SPP is still on the table and Mexico is the linch pin in that deal. Texas and States to the North are still seeing that highway still in construction. Activists will then have bitten off their own noses despite their values. I am sure the President in Mexico would love to see the jobs come down there and have their workers back home and paying taxes in Mexico. Consider this as well, with all that chicken poop the mexican earth will sure get fertilized.

Saturday November 7, 2009, 1:17 pm
Thanks for referring me to the Cowboss story. You know your personal news as made me become vegetarian. However, I find that PETA is a questionable in its zeal, if that is what it truly is. I really link they are more into raising funds for their ogranization than protecting animals.

Saturday November 7, 2009, 1:29 pm
I think that Peta has done some dispicable things too. I do support their undercover investigations into factory farms. The last time it brought about a conviction of two workers. Although they got a slap on the wrist it was a tiny victory for farm animals. That is about it. They do outrageous things to get people's attention because who is going to listen to "please and thank you;s" . I think they should be figuring out how they are going to buy out these horrible places.

Saturday November 7, 2009, 1:50 pm
Thanks Cowboss!!! Great article!!

Also thanks Tierney for forward...

Saturday November 7, 2009, 3:52 pm
nice to know the opposition is getting most of their facts straight....it only their outraged tone of voice that lets us know which side they'te on

Saturday November 7, 2009, 7:02 pm
oh, so were hard boiled,i noticed some where along the line you hated peta and you think your the messenger now,tha't what tierney says about all you messangers. but you don't have to agree with everthing and we don't have to agre with you. What is this site all about,animal rights or making friends to relieve suffering. Hmm. i wonder

Saturday November 7, 2009, 7:13 pm
I 'am very surprised tierney that you would say. PETA has done despicable things too.Very But i do agree with what you said :They do outrageous things to get people's attention because who is going to listen to "please and thank you;s" . I think they should be figuring out how they are going to buy out these horrible places. do you really think that will happen???

Saturday November 7, 2009, 7:31 pm
Misty the bad things I have heard was thaat they killed hundreds of dogs and cats in their shelters. Some of them killed some cats they had I don't remember the exact incidences but I was shocked. they are not the only ones HSUS is being accused of taking money and not to help animals. I do not think that every organization is perfect they all have their faults. No I don't think it will happen but you never know. Right now it really is the only way to shut down factory farms either boycott or buy them out.

Saturday November 7, 2009, 7:32 pm
"These are LOBBYISTS on the side of the factory farms and restaurants who want to keep doing damage on the cheap."

"Want to know about ConsumerFreedom.com - the Corporate Schill behind this article?

"Sponsor Results
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thank you Roseann and JennyLynn for commenting with this information. It seems not many understand the truth with this site.

Sunday November 8, 2009, 4:03 am
misty bleu

I am having "some difficulty" understanding your comment, so I will assume that to you, English is a second language. I do get the idea that your comment was directed at cowboss, correct me if I am mistaken.

AND, for the record, cowboss has a lot of problems with Peta, MOSTLY the name PEOPLE for the ETHICAL TREATMENT of ANIMALS -- Seems to me that ETHICAL TREATMENT of ANIMALS is, with these folk, NOTHING MORE than a come on to attract members, as they are all about the ABOLITION of Farm Animals, And that is a VERY BIG difference!!!! I call them, what I believe they really are Pafa (People for the Abolition of Farm Animals).

I do not necessarily expect you to share my opinion, However, I do expect you to Respect my Right to HAVE my opinion!

cowboss http://cowbossatwscc.blogspot.com/

Sunday November 8, 2009, 7:38 am
Cowboss I am having some difficulty understanding you! Who's side are you on? Your on the money side.You could care less about animals. How dare you talk to my friend Misty like this !!!!! She never said it was you she may have been talking about me! I am fed up with people who PRETEND to care about animals like you only to discover you are on the animal killers torturer s side. No one wants animals to suffer and even if you raise them humanely and send them to commercial slaughterhouses they are still TORTURED because there is noone( USDA) watching and controlling the process. All this needs to change. I am glad I get the opportunity to delete you. What goes around comes around in this world !!!!

Sunday November 8, 2009, 10:10 am
Tierney

So sorry for you that you feel "that way"!

If, I may I would like to make it clear to you, and all, that to say cowboss is "on the money side" is either born of ignorance, or a small minded attempt to belittle a person who you disagree with, and in some way assuming that "putting others down makes you bigger"! To make it clear, cowboss is on the "Ethical Treatment of Farm Animals" Agenda and will stay on that Agenda!

About Pafa (Peta) I will tell you that I have approached them to ask for their support on my petitions to Ban the Feeding of Feces to Farm Animals, and End the Guantanamo for Dairy Cows -- Two cases where I am SPECIFACALLY advocating Farm Animal Welfare Issues -- Their response - NOTHING - WHY - I must assume that since both these issues are Animal Welfare related and NOT ABOLISHMENTAL they JUST ARE NOT INTERESTED!

I do not necessarily expect you to share my opinion, However, I do expect you to Respect my Right to HAVE my opinion! .......cowboss/09

All the best to you in your current and future endeavours!

cheers

cowboss http://cowbossatwscc.blogspot.com/

Sunday November 8, 2009, 10:20 am
You cannot currently send a star to cowboss because you have done so within the last week.

Sunday November 8, 2009, 12:10 pm
Gee Cowboss why did not not say that in the first place! Why did you have to insult my friend ? You should have said this before all this happened I even sent you a note about it you never responded. I wanted to be able to get along with everyone regardeless of their views on this. It was the fact that you were mad and taking it out on my friend that I have known much longer than you here. You also hurt another friend of mine maybe not intentionally but you know what they say "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
Dee I see you are putting your two cents in I deleted you too. I think you are mean to people and I don't like that either.

Sunday November 8, 2009, 12:19 pm
"Dee I see you are putting your two cents in I deleted you too. I think you are mean to people and I don't like that either."

Tierney..How is having your own opinion..and voicing it "respectfully"..being mean to people..

It is sad that there are some here that unless you agree with them 100 % all of the time..they can't handle it..and have to get so nasty and personal..

Sunday November 8, 2009, 12:21 pm
"I do not necessarily expect you to share my opinion, However, I do expect you to Respect my Right to HAVE my opinion! .......cowboss/09"

I could not agree with you more on that Cowboss..

Sunday November 8, 2009, 2:41 pm
I'm sorry - I'm very confused by Cowboss's stance here. Looking at his profile, he is FOR treating farm animals humanely, AGAINST factory farming. Yet, Cowboss, you PROMOTE this article, written by lobbyist spin-doctors in collusion with the factory farm a-holes. You are promoting factory farming if you go along with this article written by spin-doctors.

Please read Roseann's posts, where she explains what this evil man is doing. That whole "Center For Consumer Freedom" website is a con! It should be called "Center For Consumer Propaganda and Brainwashing".

Also, but irrelevant to this argument - the vaccine is something everyone should run a mile to avoid getting, anyway! I will NEVER get it myself, as I don't want to end up with ME or many other horrible conditions further down the road.

I have not "noted" this story, as I don't want to see this BS promoted any further.

Please read Roseann's posts, where she explains what this evil man is doing.

Also, but irrelevant to this argument - the vaccine is something everyone should run a mile to avoid getting, anyway! I will NEVER get it myself, as I don't want to end up with ME or many other horrible conditions further down the road.

Sunday November 8, 2009, 2:43 pm
Sorry - there's no preview here, and the message box repeated on me. :o)

Sunday November 8, 2009, 4:14 pm
Kath W.

Please, Oh Please tell me where is is written that I/We should stick our heads "where the sun does not shine" and ignore articles that we may not completely agree with, BUT are out there. I, for one, (seems like one of very few here on care2) am for "Free Speech"! God (or the creator) gave me brains so that I could think independently, I am so sorry that you do not feel that others are capable of the same "Independent Thought"!

For whatever flaws this article has, and I can see several, IT OPENS UP DISCUSSION -- and to me THAT is IMPORTANT!

Hope you understand.

cowboss

Sunday November 8, 2009, 4:28 pm
To all of You who are "Against Freedom of Speach"

We can never be sure that the opinion we are endeavoring to stifle is a false opinion; and if we were sure, stifling it would be an evil still. ~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859

The peculiar evil of silencing the expression of an opinion is, that it is robbing the human race; posterity as well as the existing generation; those who dissent from the opinion, still more than those who hold it. If the opinion is right, they are deprived of the opportunity of exchanging error for truth: if wrong, they lose, what is almost as great a benefit, the clearer perception and livelier impression of truth, produced by its collision with error. ~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859

Sunday November 8, 2009, 4:44 pm
ok I am going out on a limb here and apologizing Cowboss. When you are a lone person with only a handful of people who agree with you and you are fighting for these poor suffering animals well it makes you a little crazy because the Gov. does not listen. They only listen to money money money money. I am sorry I said that about you and money Cowboss I was wrong to do that. That is what i always liked about you you were always finding those very controversial articles. Your very good at that. I am very much on edge today about other things. I hope some day you will except my apology i understand if you don't. I am not against freedom of speech! If anything I as a woman in a mans world have been trying to stand up for what i believe in without being patronized by half the population for eons. it is just weird fighting with a friend on this. This article really upset me I think you would understand that Cowboss. That and the awful CCF people. i think there was some miscommunication here.

Sunday November 8, 2009, 5:10 pm
Oh goondness I think I will back back out the door on this one....LOL

Tierny that was most comendable....

Like I said Cowboss this story needed to be put out there..

Big Gorilly Hugs

Monday November 9, 2009, 12:47 am
Hey Tierney, I'm sure Cowboss is a big enough man to not bear a grudge against you, unlike a certain person who delights in being rude, personal, and attempting sound bytes of sarcasm with their every utterance. Wonder why they are not posting on this thread! We all have our raving moments as we are mostly passionate about what we believe and I for one would not have it any other way. You keep clucking girl! Oh and good morning/evening Gorillly, Cowboss and anyone else who is awake!

Monday November 9, 2009, 3:38 am
Tierey

Thanx for understanding :-)

cowboss

Wednesday November 11, 2009, 2:54 am
It is not only that we fight against cruelty of animals, but even if they are slightly uncomfortable, it is cruel too. We either fight for animal freedom or not. I have never taken any flu vaccine in my life and can not remember when last I had flu.

Friday November 13, 2009, 1:34 pm
Why is there an issue with hens having the space to spread their wings? This is as natural to them as it is natural for a human to walk. I would not want to buy eggs that have come from a farm where an animal is not given a decent space to live in. After all, they have no choice in relinquishing their very lives -- for people to eat them. Is it therefore so much to ask that in their very short lifetime they get the space to at least spread their wings? What kind of a society have we become that we think we have the right to deprive on such an enormous scale?