Thursday April 17, 2008, 1:25 pm
NOTED TY STEVE

Thursday April 17, 2008, 1:45 pm

Exactly Steve, it's all about the oil. The U.S. could care less about human rights abuses. (We abuse them too.) And as for weapons of mass destruction,that's only important if they also have oil. So, as you said, neither China nor Burma have enough oil to make a bloody invasion worthwhile.

Thank you Steve, very noteworthy.

Thursday April 17, 2008, 2:26 pm
China. The United States has been married to China, just like it has been to Israel, Russia, Saudia Arabia, and many more "behind the scenes" on many top secret projects dealing with the area of huge advancements in chemical, technical, and scientific research. It is the same with our country's space intelligence or NASA and these other countries' major discoveries, too.

The United States is going to do as much in stopping China's human and animal right's continued abuses, as they did with Saudia Arabia's continued arms deals with "questionable terrorists" groups, with our weapons... Nothing. Very sadly noted, thank you.

Thursday April 17, 2008, 3:09 pm
noted, tnx Steve

Thursday April 17, 2008, 3:19 pm
Consumerism is a curse. Some of us have been beating this largely unheard drum for years. Each individual should decide what he really needs, and buy accordingly. Certainly it is easier to *do as you're told*, buy as you're told, etc. But some of us prefer to think for ourselves.
There is a huge difference in *need* and *want*...
Thanks for sharing your well written article.

Thursday April 17, 2008, 3:47 pm
Good article. Noted with thanks Steve.

Thursday April 17, 2008, 3:49 pm
Noted with thanks Steve
Steve you hit it on the head in all you said. You did miss the part where people are fickle as hell. Iraqi's population was made up of mostly women and children before bush's invasion, but they were a threat to the world:(
(with most children dying from depleted uranium) I wonder how many are aware that bush filed papers back in 2001 or 2003 to take control of the Iraqi oil fields. some links worth looking at.

Realities of the Iraqi Oil Law | Comments from Left Field
http://commentsfromleftfield.com/2007/07/realities-of-the-iraqi-oil-law


http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/030703_us_intentions.html

http://www.democracynow.org/2005/3/21/u_s_broadcast_exclusive_secret_u

http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/oil/2005/crudedesigns.htm

Thursday April 17, 2008, 4:54 pm
Could you convince people to go to war if it meant that the price of everything they ever wanted to buy could triple overnight? Ah…

No, not so much.
People are SO freakin' materialistic,
and their lives are all about "things".
While we protest China's government for
their abysmal human rights record, and
for murdering the Buddhist Monks in Tibet,
WE should also be taking a lesson from the
lives of the Monks themselves, and learn
TO LIVE SIMPLY, THAT OTHERS MAY SIMPLY LIVE!
Thank you, teve, and I congratulate you on
an excellent piece of writing.
noted.

Thursday April 17, 2008, 9:03 pm

China could destroy us without one shot fired.

All they need to do is call in the debt.

We need to impeach the whole mess of them in Washington and get control of our government and get people to understand exactly what Tim said right above this comment and that is to:

LIVE SIMPLY, THAT OTHERS MAY SIMPLY LIVE!

I have a tv, but it's not even hooked up to the internet or an antenna.

Once in a while I watch DVDs Check out Ironweed Films

Cutting out tv is one of the best things a person can do.

And with the time that used to be spent staring at the tv, read a book. Write a book. Play an instrument. Plant a tree. Freewayblog. Contribute content to a Peace and Justice project. Talk to your neighbors. Go out and grab your neighbor's garbage and recycle it like they should have. Donate time at an animal shelter. Run for office.
Teach kids not to fall for consumerism. Find others to meditate on Peace or do it on your own.

Just don't ever give up or lose faith in change my friends.

Never give up.

Thursday April 17, 2008, 9:19 pm
I agree that this is an important issue. But what right to you have to invade other countries? If you take the line that a country's human rights abuses justify other countries invading that country, then by that criteria, other countries are more justified in invading the U.S.A. than China, because the U.S.A. commits greater human rights abuses than China does. China is more justified in invading the U.S.A, than the other way around!!!

The U.S. government (that you U.S. citizens elect and support with your taxes) does much worse than the Chinese government does. E.g. the U.S. military has killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people in the last few years (mostly civilians, but also some Iraqi freedom fighters who are defending their homeland against U.S. forces that are greedy for oil). And e.g. the U.S. gives $3 billion military aid each year to the brutal and racist Israeli regime, $600 billion per year to the brutal terrorist regime in Colombia, and plenty of military aid to other oppressive regimes, such as the undemocratic, fundamentalist Saudi Arabian regime.

The U.S.A. has always been a brutal, hypocritical, racist, imperialist machine. It was founded on genocide, and on the land stolen from that massacred people. Its economy was built on the genocidal slavery and forced ocean transport of millions of African people.

That past has not even been addressed. The Indigenous people inside the U.S.A. still don't have their land - the invaders still occupy and control it. The Indigenous people inside the U.S.A. continue to live in Third World living conditions.

A majority of Black people in the U.S.A. continue to suffer deplorable effects of continuing racism - being poorer, dying younger, and so on. Where are the 40 acres and a mule for Black people that were promised when slavery was abolished? They haven't even been given that.

And on top of that, the U.S. continues its centuries-old imperialist policies of direct imperialist war, imperialist proxy war, and plunder of the Third World - most famously, the Middle East and Latin America. That U.S. imperialist war directly kills hundreds of thousands of people each year, and the proxy wars kill many more people (not to mention the many people maimed, raped, tortured, terrorised, and so on). And the U.S. imperialist plunder takes hundreds of billions of dollars each year from the people of the Third World, thus causing the deaths of millions more people from poverty (including millions of children).

The U.S.A. does all this and more. The U.S.A. clearly does much more harm, causing much more suffering than China does. So, by the same logic that you use about China, let's take even more action to stop the U.S.A.!!!

Friday April 18, 2008, 6:31 am
There are some great comments here, guys. Please add them to the actual blog so that people outside the Care2 community can benefit from your wealth of knowledge.

Thanks,
Steve

Friday April 18, 2008, 9:19 am
Noted,Thanx Steve.

Friday April 18, 2008, 11:05 am
Oops, I meant to write that the U.S.A. gives $600 MILLION military aid to Colombia's corrupt, brutal and oppressive regime - not "$600 billion". Sorry about that. Now, time for you U.S. citizens to apologise for that murderous military aid. And preferably STOP GIVING that military aid.

Saturday April 19, 2008, 8:19 pm
SO TRUE!!!!!!