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Another Successful Online Predator Sting!

Society & Culture  (tags: online predator, child predator, sex sting, Florida, CBS freelance employee, St. Lucie Sheriff's Department )

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Once again, the St. Lucie Sheriff's Deparment has succeeded in nabbing a lowlife online predator. Good news! But what a scumsucker...he was going after an 11-year-old girl!

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RC d (418)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 3:18 pm
Can you BELIEVE that AOL has a chat room called "Open-Minded Parents"??? They're lowlifes too, for allowing this to be put up as part of their site!

Yvonne White (229)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 3:29 pm
That's NOT Open-Minded - that's freakin' Insane!!!

Wolfweeps Pommawolf (251)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 3:37 pm


Barb Knight (1688)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 3:38 pm
I'm a member of AOL but never go into their chat rooms and now I know why!! lol!!
Noted, ty Cate.

Elle J (276)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 4:03 pm
Noted! Well this sure give AOL a black eye. Thanks Cate for the head's up.

Pauline H (107)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 4:03 pm
Its so frightening to know there is so many of these SICKO'S around

Rabbit R (85)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 4:07 pm

Open minded my tail. This stuff makes my skin crawl.

Tsandi Crew (95)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 4:17 pm
I'm amazed how many men go for children.... I don't know what to think of it other than that it's sick....I mean, why do they do that?

Charles C (160)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 4:30 pm
Do these people of celebrity status just not think, or do they think too much about the wrong things? Good for this worthless piece of dung, I better get some jail time on this one!!!!! Kudos got another sicko!!!
Noted, thank Cate

Charles C (160)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 4:32 pm
Typo........HE better get some jail time on this one

Tim Redfern (581)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 4:46 pm
Tsandi, THIS man doesn't go for children.
I don't understand it either, and frankly,
I don't WANT to understand!!
Thanks, Cate.

Pat B (356)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 4:46 pm
boy oh boy...another one. seems like 'they' are coming out of the woodwork..and the little angels that are abused have a lifetime of torment (memories) at the hands of these sexual/abusive/disgusting/sicko/'s a brain meltdown for grown men to want to abuse young children. i don't understand where/why they do this kind of thing and actively pursue it. it's really sad...because the kids suffer. harsher laws needs to be enforced with these SOB's....i think tatoos are in order...a big "P' on their forehead....or a GPS chip put on them......thankx cate...for this post. noted. ;-(

. (0)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 5:02 pm
Thanks Cate for the heads up !

Gail L (30)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 5:10 pm
Noted, Lock him up amd throw the key away.

David Gould (155)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 5:14 pm
15 years in the jail...yipee. Now just watch the plea bargaining. These monsters need to be treated chemically so that they are no longer a risk to children...What I had in mind was neat sulphiric acid poured slowly over the parts that matter...on the other hand pass them over to the CIA.

Michael Brewster (412)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 5:34 pm
First of all I would like to say that I am also so glad that this man was caught, even though I do not approve of police agency doing this and pretending to be a child looking for those who are looking for sex with children. There has to be a much better way of doing it without pretending to be someone they are not. This show our children of today that it is good and fine with the public for them to pretend to be someone they are not, and we end up with lots of other problems because people are pretending to be who they are not.

About this chat room on AOL, "open minded parents", this chat room is not about parents who are open minded about their children having sex. This chat room is about parents who are opened minded and are supportive of their children when they find out that their child is gay or lesibian. So many parents are closed minded and freak out when they find out, but this chat room is about helping other parents when they have just found out and to be supportive of them. Yes, as with any chat room, you will have problems from time to time, but they do their best to take action when they feel someone is seriously on the proul for trying to meet up with children for sex or any other reason. Not like many other sites that will allow that type stuff and do nothing about it, Yahoo being the worst.

Blacktiger P (247)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 6:06 pm
What I want to know, is how far back in families does this sickness go? Who are the parents responsible for raising such mentally deficient children, who go on to this sexual road? where is the line to be broken, and who will do it?Who is responsible for raising a son who would impale a 4 month old baby girl on his penis and drive the insides of her to mush. OH AM I BEING TO GRAPHIC? WELL EXCUSE ME! BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT THERE!.

Mary H (47)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 6:21 pm
They think about the wrong things -- Sick!!!
Glad this one is caught & pray many more are to be caught as well until this is a crime of the past...

Carol W (119)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 8:21 pm

I want to send a special card of gratitude to the uncover work being accomplish

Past Member (0)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 8:50 pm
Kudos to the cops/down with AOL and their open minded chat room---hope enough people raise enough hell to get that taken down/how about castration for this man and jail/the laws are going to have to get some teeth into them-----but then we go to the stupid lawyers/judges----------where will it end--------

Lisa Swift (79)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 9:41 pm
Noted! Thanks Cate!

"Another one bites the dust!" (Thanks to Freddie Mercury!) Everybody sing!

Thanks Michael for explaining the true purpose of that chat room! I still don't like AOL, but it's not because of their chat rooms. When we first got a PC, we got AOL free... Yeah, right! That $300 phone bill sure wasn't free! No local numbrs! Now I could get it through local ISP, but I prefer to do my own thing without a company that thinks it is "in loco parentis" for its members. I got rid of Norton for the same reason. McAfee is more user friendly, and doesn't block me from doing what I want to do online.

You know something? The 15 year sentence is fine with me... As long as he's put in the general prison population! The cons know what you were nabbed for before you get there, and they don't LIKE child molesters... :D

Bobbie W (113)
Tuesday October 2, 2007, 10:22 pm
"and another one's gone and another one's gone...." Good enough, A Lisa??
"open minded parents?? How about sicko scum of the earth parents?

Ramona Gehl (141)
Wednesday October 3, 2007, 2:31 am
So happy to hear they are catching more of these degenerates........But if you notice all these sick predators are aware of the stings out there to catch them, and yet they still go online and arrange to abuse and exploit young children!!!!!!!!!!! They will do anything, no matter what the personal risk to themselves, to have sex with children!!!!!!!!!! That is why we must never let them out of jail, unless they have been castrated......and I don't mean chemically!!!!!!!!!!

Dolores H (2)
Wednesday October 3, 2007, 4:17 am
How truly sick.

Lana W (373)
Wednesday October 3, 2007, 5:20 am
Noted, and disgusted!

Stephen Hannon (203)
Wednesday October 3, 2007, 5:36 am
There still coming out of the woodwork in Florida. The last online predator they nabbed was an assistant prosecuter who was going after a 5 yr. old. I wonder what makes them think they're not going to caught eventually? Scum suckers.

Julia D (92)
Wednesday October 3, 2007, 10:48 am
I don't know any AOL chatrooms, but I think it's important to be very clear about what "open-minded parents" mean. If Michael says it's a forum for parents whose sons and daughters are homosexual and who want to find ways to be supportive, I don't think anyone should start a witch hunt. Those tend to fall back on the true victims of abuse. Sexual abuse of any living creature should be prosecuted and punished to the fullest extend, but please! no witch hunt.
Innocent until proven guilty, otherwise we're in for a lot of pain.

Julia D (92)
Wednesday October 3, 2007, 10:50 am
Apart from that I don't see why someone like that guy cannot get life.

Carolyn T (234)
Wednesday October 3, 2007, 12:09 pm
Noted with thanks, Cate.

Lisa, if you will allow me this point: actually--and this is the best part--prison inmates dislike child molestors so much that THEY LOVE THEM IN A VERY SPECIAL WAY! I know that is what you meant, LOL.

I have said many times that the only way is through chemical castration as part of the sentence and I know that ACLU will be over this. Normally, I'd be screaming about it as well. However, since crime repeats and repeats so that recidivism is quite high, it also escalates to more violence. Since this is an "urge" the perpetrators say they cannot control, then we decide if the rights of the perp outweigh those of infants on up. My heart doesn't skip one beat before I know my answer. Good for the very aggressive work on the part of this special unit of the police department! AOL will never see me on that site again until they--no, let me back up--I believe all internet sites ought to have specially trained officers --perhaps retirees--whose job it is would be to report their suspicions to authorities who can legally tap into conversations and have an arrest warrant in hand. I would surely not think it inappropriate for AOL or any other service to work something out that is responsible for help in patrolling their site. And, yet again, Parents--Grandparents--everyone: be sure you have blocked any sites that you do not want your young household members to see.

Don Peters (0)
Wednesday October 3, 2007, 12:31 pm
Good!! Another piece of pond scum off the street.

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday October 3, 2007, 12:52 pm
Thank you for clarifying what "Open-Minded Parents" was about: Parents wishing to be "open-minded" about their kids being gay. Such a site is NEEDED for parents combatting homophobia, including perhaps their own.

Why did the cops choose THAT site to perpetrate their sting? There is something we are not being told here.

Adult males wishing to have sex with small children is not necessarily that unusual. It has happened thruout history. It was one of the outrages of SLAVERY. It took place in London, in Victorian times, as you can read about in contemporary documents -- a thriving child prostitution trade. It is taking place right NOW, in countries such as Thailand and India, where child prostitution and child trafficking {kidnapping children for sex purposes} thrives. Governments can't seem to stop it; or don't want to.

My point is not, that the men who engage in this activity aren't scum. But, that it is not necessarily that UNUSUAL or uncommon. We are taking too "prettified" a view of human nature, if we think this is all that unusual. It is BIG BUSINESS, child prostitution is, so it CAN'T be rare, if it is profit-making big business.

There needs of course to be an INTERNATIONAL crackdown, as well as local.
It seems that men with POWER, including economic power, will look for TOTALLY HELPLESS VICTIMS to satisfy something dark in them. Not all men with power, including economic and political power, but a LOT of them. Perhaps a less-unequal distribution of power is a PART of the answer.

O O O (143)
Wednesday October 3, 2007, 2:50 pm
You all do realize these are just like an iceberg-what you see,is deffinately not all you get-sometimes-unfortunately.

Wolfweeps Pommawolf (251)
Wednesday October 3, 2007, 7:29 pm
There is a wonder man by the name Andrew Vachss.
He has been at the forefront of representing the victims of child abuse and the victims of child sexual assault.
I highly recommend anyone interested in learning about child sexual abuse please vist his website.
He is a a man with a passion for protecting children.
His website is informative, and has a good link for infomation regarding research on this subject.

Here is a little bit about him, and link to his website.

Frequently Asked Questions
about Andrew Vachss


Who is Andrew Vachss?
Andrew Vachss is an attorney who represents children and youth exclusively, with 30 years experience in child protective work. He has been a federal investigator in sexually transmitted diseases, a social services caseworker, and a labor organizer. He also directed a maximum security prison for "aggressive-violent" youth.
He has written a textbook, numerous non-fiction articles, graphic novels, a "children's book for adults," two collections of short stories and many works of fiction, which have been translated throughout the world. This website includes, among other things, information about Mr. Vachss' current and upcoming work, transcriptions of some of his non-fiction, interviews and photographs.
If you're interested in mental health issues, child development, or developmental psychopathology, you'll be interested in this. Dr. Frank Ascione, the world's leading authority on the connections between animal abuse, child abuse, and domestic violence, has edited a handbook containing articles on animal abuse and cruelty, written by more than two dozen leaders in the field. To learn more about The International Handbook of Animal Abuse and Cruelty: Theory, Research, and Application, to be published by Purdue University Press in February 2008, click here. [pdf/1.5M]
(Updated 09-26-07
Articles about Vachss
Novelist Vachss Uses Fiction to Fight Child Abuse
By Aleksandrs Rozens
Published by Reuters, January 6, 2003

President Clinton Signs
The National Child Protection Act

By Associated Press
The New York Times National
Tuesday, December 21, 1993


President Clinton signed the National Child Protection Act yesterday, attended by, from left, Health and Human Services Secretary Donna Shalala, Andrew Vachss, Oprah Winfrey, ex-Illinois Governor Jim Thompson and Representative Pat Schroeder, D-Colo. The law will create a database to help track child abusers. Later, Clinton met with Mark Klaas, who pressed for harsher penalties for violent repeat offenders such as the suspect in the kidnap-slaying of his daughter, Polly.

At the signing of the National Child Protection Act, President Clinton invited Oprah Winfrey, a supporter of the legislation, to speak. Also attending were Health Secretary Donna E. Shalala and Andrew Vachss, an author and lawyer specializing in juvenile justice and child abuse. Mr. Vachss suggested the bill while a guest on Ms. Winfrey's talk show. Later, Mr. Clinton awarded grants of $50 million to 74 cities to increase the number of police officers.


Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release December 20, 1993

Today the President will sign the National Child Protection Act of 1993, which seeks to give parents the assurance that their children are not being cared for by criminals.

To accomplish this, the bill:

Establishes a national database of all indictments and convictions on child abuse and sex offense charges, violent crimes, arson, and felony drug charges.

Allows all businesses or organizations who employ a childcare provider to ask a state agency to check this database for all job applicants.

States would be required to report crime records to this database, giving highest priority to reporting child abuse crimes.

The bill also seeks to ensure that the rights of job applicants are protected. It establishes that reports may only be released on applicants who provide written permission for a background check to be made, and allows for background checks to be appealed.

Among those joining the President at the signing ceremony today will be actress/producer Oprah Winfrey, a survivor of child abuse who has been a vocal proponent of the legislation, which is informally known as "the Oprah Bill."

Also at the Roosevelt Room ceremony will be Andrew Vachss, the originator of the idea of a national background check, the bill's Congressional sponsors—Sen. Joseph Biden, Rep. Patricia Schroeder, and Rep. Don Edwards—and former Illinois Governor James R. Thompson, who has worked with Ms. Winfrey on the legislation.

Among the organizations represented at the ceremony will be the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, the Boys & Girls Clubs of America, Girl Scouts USA, the National Committee for Prevention of Child Abuse, Children's Defense Fund, Child Welfare League of America, Big Brothers/Big Sisters of America, and the National Collaboration for Youth.

Denice G (45)
Wednesday October 3, 2007, 11:34 pm
Noted Disgusting. What's with aol having a chat room like that??

Past Member (0)
Thursday October 4, 2007, 12:21 pm
This man is a disgraced. What is on his mind. These sick men go after children because they think that a child will talk to them more than their parents. It is so much steer in their brains. They can't get know woman around their age so they rather go to a child to get comfort. I am just reading the minds of these predators because I do a lot of studying of the minds of criminals and predators. The internet web page has chat rooms for these predators so parents need to stop letting their small kids getting on these website because the once the child open the mail and reads it and all she does is send messages back and forth because momma or daddy are doing their thing and you see why this put these children at risk. The internet can be at times the devil play ground on these certain website. Think about it the devil is a deceiver and he steal kills and destroys and that is what he does. Parents do not have the time for their children because they are out their seeking attention for a friendly man to talk too.A friendly man comes up and be friendly and say would you like me to buy you some ice cream and of course the child says yes. Just a strange man I am asking and all they do is find a way to get to that child or somebody else's child and they go on and on. Wake up Parents and I am not going to keep saying this again learn to be a Parent and take a lot of time with your kids and get them off of these internet.

Jaclin S (230)
Thursday October 4, 2007, 3:45 pm
Thanx Cate for your diligence. A very sick, sick business.

David Cromie (6)
Thursday October 4, 2007, 5:46 pm
Sexually immature, power-crazwd sociopaths, I contend, and the product of less than open sex education at school and at home. He is probably a 'christian' to boot!!

Donald Cordell (8)
Thursday October 4, 2007, 6:22 pm
How much of this would happen if it weren't illegal? Those exposes done by ABC TV are so reveling, from all area's of the nation, and even those who had watched the program on TV then still attempted to meet children. WE must teach our children to protect themselves, children left alone (because both parent have to work), and use the internet that is loaded with this kind of what the kids think are innocent teenagers they contact.
The fact that anyone over 18 tries to contact a child under 18 is a crime. But what we need to do in that case is a matter of age difference. When a 17 year old guy has been dating a 16 year old girl, then he turns 18 and now it's a crime, that is a bit too much to charge the guy with a crime. Girls are sexually agressive too.
We need reasonable age difference law, that is sensible. Any idea's?

Wolfweeps Pommawolf (251)
Thursday October 4, 2007, 10:52 pm
So many young people are left abandoned by family and friends because they finally identify their sexual indenity. The world is a hard enough place to live in these days. But when a young person gets the bravery to seek others like themselves we should be jumping up and down in great relief that this person now a bas
That any internet wbesite, offline group can gather together in any form of communication is a wonderful thing. No one likes to feel attacked, ignored nor simply abused by any and everyone else.
I personally encourage open communication with their parents. But let us be blunt and honest. Too many people are pressed to keep their sexual idenity silent. So in reality...where can they go?
That gay youth, or adults become victims of of any type thru out their life time is a sick and crying shame. But then again....why is it so easy for those that can not identify with something different from themselves be so easy to blame a "gay teen chatroom" rather than the abuser? Because it is still acceptable to be a gay basher? Then if that is the case....more the sorry I feel for you...for it is a choice to remain in ignorance and hate. Because you've thrown away the person...and not ever had the chance to know the human being.

Linda H (199)
Friday October 5, 2007, 2:59 pm
This is more than a sicko he is a predator Actively seeking out these innocences and preying upon them. They
are then arrested and get no help which makes matters worse. Oh! he is in Florida and they do not fool around
I would like to see his score sheet just to see how bad they rate him! Thanks Cate!

Phyllis P (237)
Saturday October 6, 2007, 8:14 am
some people need a license to be a parent...

Edward H (45)
Saturday October 6, 2007, 12:09 pm
Another one bites the dust!!! The only thing is it needs to be for life, not up to 15 years. The children are scarred for life. It should be life - these people CANNOT be rehabilitated.

David Cromie (6)
Saturday October 6, 2007, 6:04 pm
I agree WolfW. A homophobic upbringing, and a visceral fear of sexual contact, especially as practiced by the religionists, are not to be encouraged, since this leads to warped sexual practices. Bible-belt bible thumpers, and their TV evangelist friends have a lot to answer for in this respect (as well as for BushCo!).

Cris c (178)
Thursday October 11, 2007, 10:03 pm

Teresa del Castillo (1519)
Saturday October 27, 2007, 11:16 am
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