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Lost Jobs in the US: Another Sign of Recession


Society & Culture  (tags: job loss, unemployment, outsourcing, recessaiom, Bush, economics )

RC
- 2266 days ago - washingtonpost.com
The US lost a net of 17,000 jobs in January 2008. Need more proof that the downturn in the housing and credit markets is affecting all of us in a major way? Coupled with continued outsourcing of jobs to slave-labor markets, we are in for a hell of a time.



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RC deWinter (418)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 5:47 am
Is Bush worried yet? Oh, that's right, what does he care? He's leaving a huge mess for our next president to clean up.
 

Charles C. (160)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 5:55 am
Bush care about the people? NOT for a second!!! The fact that he is leaving is a good thing in itself, but yes, there will be quite a mess that could take a long time for anyone to fix!!
Thanks Cate........
 

Joycey B. (750)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 5:56 am
Noted with anger. Thanks Cate.
 

Stephen Hannon (203)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 7:21 am
This isn't the first time I have seen people with signs that read will work for food, similar to the one in the photo. And Bush claims the economy is doing very well. Hmm, I wonder what he's been smoking lately?

Yes the ecomomy is good for his wealthy buddies. The only thing they have to worry about is if their stock shares go up or down a few bucks. But with the insider trading that goes on they get warnings and sell to make even more money.
 

John Blalock (48)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 7:22 am
Central America is living in the US. What the hell do you think. John
 

Cynthia S. (22)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 7:27 am
Viva LA Revolucion!!!! WHen are we gonna act..when it effects us individually!!!!! Our country is goin' up in smokes and we are the firewood!!
 

Laurie W. (189)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 8:33 am
Our clothing made overseas..shoddy material in sizes that don't follow any set guidlines. Food products that are questionable, and not monitored . Our children's toys, pet supplies,toothpaste,laundry detergents..the list goes on. This is not for global trade equality this is for getting cheap labor,lower overhead expenses,more profit to the management/ investors, and sold to you and I as affordable goods we can buy with less money so the low wages can be stretched a little further. Worried about a recession? Think you may lose your job or house ? You'll be the reason if you don't do the right thing...and the answer is.......SHOP, SHOP, SHOP....
It's a 150 jobs downsized in a little community you may not even hear about...or perhaps more news worthy lay offs of auto workers...but only several thousand..and if you're to busy trying to hold on to your's you don't have time to add the total and realize jobs lost, jobs created and the ?? unemployment rates aren't adding up....smellls like a load of shit to me...and if it smells like it guess what.............
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 10:01 am
Makes you wonder what this country will be like by the time this idiot is out of office, doesn't it? Noted/thanks Cate
 

Nancy M. (62)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 10:14 am
I'm so sorry to see you in the States go through this. Where I live there is a 'mini -boom'. You can always come here- (Canadian prairies) that is is you can stand -30 temperature and mind numbing- boredom (for some). I frankly, don't get bored. Its all in your own control if you are bored or not. C'mon up!
 

Carolyn T. (234)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 10:39 am
Noted. I wish, Nasale, that those who want to could always "come there" but the reality is that many people are not permitted into Canada any more because we are on lists for having acted like Americans and citizens of the world for speaking out. The border fence if allowed to be completed will serve to keep Canadians and Americans from freely "com'in up" or "coming on down." Thanks for caring, though. Layoffs have begun at Home Depot as further evidence of dwindling demand by contractors and do-it-yourselfers. Grocery store prices keep my purchases to the minimum--only an infrequent indulgence. Yes, the average Joe and Mary --having already tightened their belts--are now doing without necessities and hunkering down for a long, rocky ride.
 

Terrie Williams (753)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 10:47 am
When are these greed-diseased corporations going to wake up and smell the proverbial coffee? Let's gaze at this logically shall we....the more they cut wages = the less people have to spend, the more they cut jobs = less people have in general and less to spend, the more they drive down wages by hiring undocumented workers from foreign lands and/or out-sourcing to lower paid worker nations = the less people have to spend = people going hungry = people losing homes = people in the streets = children dying of hunger = the old, infirm and the very young will perish first = revolution. We are not consumers, we are human beings! We are people, not statistics! When are the corporations and government going to wake the **** up and understand that by slashing and burning the job market and wages they are in effect cutting their own throats? When we get down to only buying what is essential to survival (coming soon to a community near you!) will they realize that we, the people, no longer are putting billions into their pocketbooks from the likes of TVs, Walkmans, I-Pods, I-Phones, new cars, new furniture, new homes, new clothing, new everything....will it be then that they realize the damage they have done? I think not. They do not care about people, they only care about their bottom line. That is where the people can (you have the power just realize it!!!!!!!!!!!) and should draw the battle line--their wallets. What is coming soon to this nation of ours will not be pretty and it will not be painless. What we are about to witness and experience will be worse than what our grandparents and great-grandparents lived through in the 30's. Only this time around I fear it will be far more lethal, far more uncivilized and a lot more Darwinesque or rather, should I say, Orwellian.

This is only one scenario of logic. There could be many. If we WAKE UP NOW from our long sleep of consumeristic materialism, our coma of indebtedness and stop being SHEEPLE we might slow or even halt this headlong rush to the abyss (like a flock of lemmings to the cliffedge). It is, in the end, up to US.
 

Yvonne White (232)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 11:32 am
Dean Baker reports for Truthout,
"For the first time since data has been kept, manufacturing is less than 10 percent of employment."

This is INSANE!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 11:47 am
Noted!
And I agree with all the above!
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 1:14 pm
stephen, bush doesn't notice the economy because he has so much money that to him things are as per usual... it is as with a fat woman (and i can say this as i am one...;P...) who has much weight to lose... she has to lose 20 or 30 pounds before anyone notices... it is the same with the economy... the poor and those on limited incomes have known that we have been in a recession for the past 4 years...there ya have it from a poor fat woman... ta da...:)
 

Elle J. (282)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 3:10 pm
Perfect example of double talk. He is optomistic. Business owners are happy. No inflation? Apparently he means outsourcing is going well. I suspect that is what he is talking about when he says jobs have been created for 52 months. Guess he doesn't really know what is going on in the market place. Walmart is cutting their prices 10-30 percent to keep their grocery shoppers buying. There is a shocker! By the way, that didn't come from the video. That is part of my occasional rant. You know like one thing leads to another. Cate, you are right, he will leave a mess for the next president to clean up. I hope who ever it is has a strong stomach because of all of the S**t he is leaving behind.
 

Dianne G. (95)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 3:12 pm
I believe it's going to get worse before this idiot is out of office. I feel sorry for the next President! It's going to take more than 8 years to get back on track.
 

Kerry S. (0)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 4:09 pm
Thanks for the post Cate, but I read an article this week that stated there 69,000 new unemployment apps being filed bringing the total to 375,000, If I'm not mistaken this is just those people who are in fact collecting unemployment not those who have already gone thru theirs and are still not working.
Also saw a very telling cartoon in the LA Times- I'm paraphrasing but- News caster pointing out that Since China is the new Majority holding ownership of America they will be appointing a new president in November.

and if the "terrorists" were targeting our economy "symbols" taken down on 911, wouldn't the fact that now that we are broke are borrowing money from China on pretty much a daily basis wouldn't this mean in part that the "terrorists" have won, and wouldn't it also mean that whoever helped them in this shouldn't they be able to brought up on charges of treason? For aiding and abetting the "terrorists" ? just a thought...
 

Robin B. (14)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 6:34 pm
I don't like to wish too much bad because of Karma, but I just hope that one day Bush is penniless...I am disgusted every time I see his face. How can he be so uncaring about what he has done to our country.
 

Alicia Bedford (0)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 6:57 pm
Mother of two minor sons need your help. I was laid off from my job and although have recently found work, garnishments for past due bills are leaving us without any living expenses or food for our stomachs and soon to be homeless. We are behind on our rent, electric, gas, water, medical, ext. I was also just released from the hospital for chest pains and dehydration.
Please help me and my family. I have used every resource available out here and have been turned away. My mother has cancer and as I mentioned I have been sick as well. Please help us get to a point of a decent life. I know in my heart that there are still good hearted and caring people out there. I pray that I have reached them here. Please help us from being homeless. Thank you

Alicia Bedford
PO Box 62178
VA Beach, VA 23466



 

. (0)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 8:00 pm
I am sick about everything
 

Tassa Rose (13)
Saturday February 2, 2008, 11:46 pm
THIS IS A MAD WORLD...and it's a "Vicious Cycle" like a Tornado...A Whirl-Pool, With the Vortex Sucking the Public Down. Let Us Stand Up For Righteousness and For What IS LAW; or what we thought we had as "inalienable rights." "And Justice For All...." I am in the Fashion Business, and have been both an ARTIST, and in SkinCARE as a Therapist using HEALING Spa Waters for Distressed Skins. Now Disabled, I KNOW that work is hard to come by; and I am disgusted with the LOP-SIDED System at Present. For (in my humble opinion); FOOLS are in CHARGE, when the TRULY GREATER MINDS, are on the STREETS; or at least many are. I pass my Business Cards out when I can; Weddings, Parties, Functions? I am an Excellent Make-Up Artist, and NO....you will not LOOK Like a CLOWN. Check My Site, IF you Live in the Boston Area. Thanks. Yes; AWARE of the UNEMPLOYMENT ISSUES. I've paid my dues as a National Make-Up Artist with Christian Dior for almost 20-years, until Macy's Corp. gobbled up the Robinson's May Chain. Enough Said.
 

David S. (55)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 4:31 am
And Bush's answer is for everyone to shop as if it's every American's patriotic duty, perhaps to squeeze those last remaining pennies in the land into the hands of the wealthy few before they simply close up shop?
 

Charles C. (160)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 7:55 am
Here is a perfect example: In my profession (Licensed Massage Therapist), the pay scale working for a chiropractor over 10 years ago was between $18-24 and hour. Today Chiropractors are offering $12-15 and hour in 2008. Other than my private clients, I have been out of work for a full year!!! Spas were paying $30 + per hour plus tips, now $15-20!! Aside from the fact that the market is flooded with inexperienced therapists right out of school that will accept that pay scale......I have been a therapist for 41 years, but it seems experience does not matter in the job market any longer.....cheap pay does.
One Chiro I worked for was paying me $17.50 an hour and billing $75 every 15 minutes for my treatments, yes, $300 per hour and told me I was the highest paid therapist he ever hired and could not afford to pay any higher.
So many corporations here in South Florida are downsizing!!
The unemployment is out of hand and bound to get worse before Bush leaves office.
 

Kristi K. (2036)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 10:42 am
Bush and his moronic policies have ruined this country! No doubt about it.
 

Suzybell H. (199)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 2:37 pm
Noted& Cate is it any wonder look at the ninny in the White House!
 

Mari Carmen N. (8)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 2:53 pm
This is terrible! What will become of us?
 

O O O. (138)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 7:44 pm
The next prez wil get this to clean up,but they will not clean it up either& though some of these ressions of the near apst look like they cleared up,they did not,the whole system went down to the new lower lever,which became the new norm,& this has happend over the last several cylces.
This time,the U S may well have to do now,as it did in the 1920,we are so devlaued,it now needs to be reputedated ,but will this only be for what America owes,or also the type money we have& if so,will we,as a soverin nation do our own new money or someone else. Both ways,the new value,as well as the new currancy itslef have to be agreed upon by other countries to have any value at ll,or any legal use of the new money&they alsodetermin just what the new value will be.
Might be safer to keep this money& ruputeate our old loans,bad as this is. Just repeg it's value-then BACK IT with something solid one does not just print! Regardless what it be,though the international market is still totaly in GOLD ALONE,always has been& even still sometimes get really passed as such!
if i remebr my economics class corrctly,gov actualy does not want totaly no inflation,they do want some inflation in a countires markets-to them,they think that is right.
 

O O O. (138)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 7:47 pm
Ever notice,the comments both the gov,the papers& people make about people that hold these will work for signs? Many are true ones,now it is some of our turns to find out just how this is,as such a one,beet this line grows faster& long than a waste line at Thanksgiving & Christmas!
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 8:47 pm
There was a guy that stood on a corner in the middle 90's with a sign "will work for food". I didn't have money to give him but I did take him food. Soon after that there was a news story showing the same guy going to his NEW BMW and driving away from the corner he was just begging at.
There are a lot of needed people and a lot of scammers out there!
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 8:49 pm
Sorry, that was suppose to read "needy people".
 

O O O. (138)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 9:11 pm
it is true,ther are scammers,but note this was most likley the gov rep or as it got into the news,a scam reporter doing this,which as i said,ther is reall people ther too,but gov will hassle them so as to not make the gov counted & countrolled buck,from what ever sorces& control by the few real scammers,how Americans & others view an entire population-one some are now about to join& if you are doing this as a firrst timer,my,how much you have to learn how quickly or you will NOT servive& no,this gov is NOT going to help you,they more likely will help the attacher of victiums. Good luck-you shall need it!
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 9:29 pm
Ms. O,
I'm disabled do you think the government bends over backwards to help me? .. Not!
Good luck to you.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 9:37 pm
Ms. O,
My post was for the news story.
Not to your asking for help.
Again, good luck.
 

O O O. (138)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 9:49 pm
Since when by my statements above,am i myslef asking you for help.though everyone short of the rich in America can certainly use that to be sure. Some do this very type of asking& it is not wrong to ask,rather than steal,if you are not yet at level this too becomes moraly proper but only to servive,no more than& there does need to be a better way.
 

Kathy Chadwell (371)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 10:47 pm
Let's see, we've been yelling about them outsourcing our jobs for how long now.
reagan didn't help worker any either.

http://www.zanesvilletimesrecorder.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080201/OPINION/802010329/1014

The Reagan primary is not the one for these times
Chuck Raasch
Gannett News Service

LOS ANGELES - Ronald Reagan's name was dropped 54 times in the Republican debate here Wednesday night, not surprising given that it took place at the Ronald Reagan Library with the Gipper's Air Force One as a backdrop.

Mitt Romney called it Ronald Reagan's house and declared it the proper domicile for any proper Republican. John McCain pronounced himself a foot soldier in the Reagan revolution so many times he might have shown up in uniform. The capper was when CNN's Anderson Cooper asked each of the surviving four Republican presidential candidates why Reagan would have endorsed them. As usual, Mike Huckabee had the best off-the-cuff answer.


I'm not going to pretend he would endorse me," Huckabee said. "I wish he would, I would love that, but I endorse him and I'm going to tell you why. It wasn't just his specific policies, but Ronald Reagan was something more than just a policy wonk. He was a man who loved this country, and he inspired this country to believe in itself again." Getting the country to believe in itself again. The candidate that best makes that argument over the next nine months should be the next president. But that argument often has been wrapped in nostalgia and arguments over history. It seems strange in an election that has ostensibly wrapped so much around change and in a country with so many big challenges facing it, but it is true.
With all due respect to Nancy Reagan, who got nearly as much face time from CNN as candidate Ron Paul did, this is the election of 2008, not 1980. And as beloved a figure the late president remains among Republicans, the debate about his legacy - a debate that even roiled the Democrats' prickly campaign in South Carolina - is superfluous compared with what is at stake with the economy, Islamic fundamentalism, terrorism, global climate challenges, energy costs and other 2008 issues.

And the hard reality is that Reagan himself might not be able to win this Republican Party's nomination. His critics could attack him for flip-flopping on abortion the way Romney's are coming after him. He was not always a dyed-in-the-wool Republican. And he rose to prominence in the GOP in the wake of Barry Goldwater, who lost spectacularly in 1964 and who would not abide the religious and social litmus tests applied to current candidates.

While Reagan's name came up every 100 seconds or so in the Simi Valley debate north of here, Darfur and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and others did not.

And many of the 29 undecided Republicans who gathered to watch this debate at the behest of Frank Luntz and Fox Television left feeling empty. If their reaction is any indication, nostalgia fatigue may be setting in.

"Who cares who Ronald Reagan would have endorsed?" said 53-year-old Bill Newland, an airline pilot from Manhattan Beach.

This was said in California, no less, the state Reagan once governed and the state where its current governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, traces his political heritage to Reagan.

This is not just a Republican issue. In South Carolina, Barack Obama drew Hillary and Bill Clinton into a full-fledged skirmish over the meaning of the '70s, '80s and '90s when he described Reagan as a more transformative president than either Bill Clinton or Richard Nixon. The Clintons tried to spin it as an endorsement of Reagan's policies, which were popular with blue-collar Democrats but not the liberal elite. Obama was trying to say Democrats could learn something from Reagan's ability to reach out to disaffected centrists and Democrats and forge a governing coalition, the kind of healing coalition that many believe the country needs above all else right now.

"I want some Obama Republicans," he declared in a rally in Columbia a few days before the election.

Mark DiCamillo, director of California's respected Field Poll, thinks he knows why nostalgia has wrapped around the '08 debate.

Americans "are looking back at eras in American politics when people were feeling good about the country, when they certainly don't right now," he said.

A whopping 67 percent of Californians said the country was going in the wrong direction in DiCamillo's latest polling, as high as any time since Bill Clinton's election in 1992.

DiCamillo said Californians have an overwhelming sense that the country is headed into a recession. "It is not really here yet, it is not being felt yet, but you have this lingering sense it is coming, and there is this general malaise about the United States and the fix we are in."

That does sound an awful lot like 1980, with the misery index and the Iran-hostage crisis and Jimmy Carter's malaise pronouncements. Reagan could be a sentimentalist, sometimes to a fault. But he won in 1980 because he talked relentlessly about a better future in a decent America. If he were alive today and learned his name came up 54 times in a debate about this future, the Gipper surely would say: "There they go again.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 3, 2008, 11:23 pm
ms. O,
By your statements it sounds like you have or know someone who has asked for help.
And like many of us have not gotten it.
 

Penelope P. (222)
Monday February 4, 2008, 6:24 am
Noted Thankyou Kate
 

O O O. (138)
Monday February 4, 2008, 3:13 pm
What is most material,is many that do in FACT quilify for help,do not recive it,as they should,perhaps this may include you,but it is not correct to say that all are trying nothing,nor that all trying are scammers,but you are correct,ther most certainly are scammers which do use the same ways of legitamte people,as is normal for that type of "person",they follow what they find works,w/o themsleves working for the benifits.
If i have or not,or others have or not,was not the point,as it "seemed""as if?" you were putting non guilty down along with the guilty,as well as me perhaps. At least,so i seems to me.especaily in how you re state agin,good luck,though it is true,we ALL Do,need this.
 

Wolfweeps Pommawolf (251)
Monday February 4, 2008, 7:03 pm
Noted.
This is when the people of th eU.S. need to start standing up and yelling their fool heads off. WE pay taxes through the noses. We get nothing back from our government. We get our jobs cut, out sourced, and then the immigrnats are blamed for taking the jobs. This just ain't so folks. The corporate world wants us at each others throats because it eliminates the blame from them. Why?
Because it keeps them from paying a decent wage to anybody. Why?
So they can keep their money...pay littler taxes, and we lose on all counts.
We pay through the nose for everything. Who profits? The rich corporate world.
The gap gets bigger daily between the rich and the bigger amount of working poor.
There wil never bee a change until people start standing up and saying NO MORE.
There is no reasom why we, the wpoplw cannot change things. Spenfd less time bickering amongst us all, and start pulling together and demanding change for US...equal representation....everyday revolution is starting to sound alot better than any other long term plan our politicians have planned.
I know I'm tired of working to pay bills, which I have alot less than many other people...but having nothing left over.....but to pay higher taxes so some rich SOB doesn't have to. NO PERSON SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE TO WORK....AND NEVER HAVE THE CHANCE TO ENJOY LIFE...BUT WORK YOURSELF TO DEATH.
BRING OUR JOBS HOME, BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME, AND DAMN IT...STOP THE GOVERNMENT FROM SPENDING MY TAXES ON THEIR GREAT PLANS.....
 

Sandra M Z. (114)
Monday February 4, 2008, 10:36 pm
I have to make 3X what I made 6 yrs. ago to keep up. and not many vacations anymore or restaurants out. We were SICKO'D, add $XXXX. more debt that we got burned by the MED/INS industry to our tab. How can the masses not see it? The shoppiing spree will be over very fast, and we will be like Scarlett, digging up a lone carrot to feed a family. Noted, thanks Cate.
 

O O O. (138)
Tuesday February 5, 2008, 12:40 pm
If you have the ability to find&dig the carrot,they are not finashed with You yet. "If" you find a carrot place,it either is pre taken,or is not what it seems. Then one may well wish they had not knowen of let alone had it.
Will be,will be,-it is already far too late,as there is no backing for US money,the material the money is made from is itself not as valuable as it was. These materials are not as durable as they where& the new money is now actively fully trackable.
Money,or bater are the bottom lines economicly.
Movement:US is going to pass port as the standard minium ID! So,what will the mid point or max ID be?
You can not work,you can not earn when working,you can not stay,but you can not go. You can not afford to live nor die-1984 Double Plus Sized!
 
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