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Congress Broadens Bush's Power to Conduct Warrantless Surveillance on American Citizens


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: domestic surveillance, domestic spying, warrantless surveillance, US Congress, Bush )

RC
- 672 days ago - democracynow.org
What gutless wonders - I am appalled that this legislation was approved with a Democratic majority in the House and Senate.
Comments

RC deWinter (418)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 8:46 pm
Well, I really don't know what else to say. I miss my country.
 

Pastor Tim Redfern (526)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 9:22 pm
The American Civil Liberties Union condemned the votes. Anthony Romero of the ACLU said “This congress may prove to be as spineless in standing up to the Bush Administration as the one that enacted the PATRIOT Act or the Military Commissions Act.”

I'm not terribly sure what to say, either, Cate.
But then, what CAN be said?! "This Congress", he
says. Well, this Congress may not be "spineless".
Perhaps the truth is in the vote itself, that Congress
is on the same side as Dubya, in that they do not
work for We The People, they work for The Powers
That Be, and those are miles and miles above the
heads of us little folk.
I hate to say this, and maybe it's pointing out the
obvious, but we're actually not as screwed as we're
going to be. Wait a few more years.
noted.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 9:36 pm
And the Next Step. . .to become Chancellor and remove Hindenburg. . .THEN IT WILL ALL BE MINE !!!!

BWAH-HA-HA !!
 

Melissa Dawson Chapman (291)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 9:38 pm
Noted with much concern.
 

O O O O (107)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 9:40 pm
Tim you are correct but for two points,#1 Those that are True American,no longer just sit there/here,& take this.
#2 Look at each vote in this matter,againest the Peole of the United States,to #! IMPEACH THEM NOW while in their formerly legal to hold office, #2 Require early recall of everyone of these indviuals. #3 Do not relect BOTH,thm-or ANYONE they select,theri friends or associates,select.
#4 NOW-Fallow the indviual steps,in order,timely,as listed in the United States Consitution itself,i.e, The People of the United States,pettion Cogress,for redress of grevaince. Contitutional standard is,they must "HEAR IT",not nessaraly agree with you,but them MUST hear it& failure to hear it is a direct,open violation of the United States Consitution REQUIREING then,all true Americans then to commit themselves to those acts,then legal & justifed,which are normal all felonies,all High Crimes:That of Sedition & what would normaly be Treson.
If the People approch Congress,Congress has NO OUT-they MUST hear it,though not nessaraly agree.
#5 Failure to agree to the people,then is again dealt with by vote of Recall,it is NOT nessary to wait for their next election cycle.
*Note:People they well may be useing materials againest you normaly reserved for military dureing war,so the sooner this is started& comleted in either ultamate conclution,the better for you the people to defend yourself,& it is not as if you have,any choice,do this,or lay down & take it-you will never have a bettter chance.
 

Karen M. (176)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 9:51 pm
So stupid! We don't need to see even more enthusiasm in our government for essentially dismantling our Democracy.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 9:54 pm
many of you may have forgotten that some years back, Israel announced that it would seek certain criminal types no matter where they were--including here--and bring them back for trial.

maybe at some time in the future certain people from this administation will "disappear, show up in some other country and be tried for their war crimes . . .their crimes against humanity.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 9:55 pm
Thank you, Senator Obama, vor voting in the Senate today.

Hillary didn't bother to represent me or my state in Congre$$ today; $he wa$ bu$y with her own affair$:

Sen. Clinton Fails Own Standard; Time to End Her CampaignFor a year, while running for the Democratic nomination for president, you have repeatedly stressed the importance of voting. While I care which way you would have voted on FISA, I care far more that you did not vote. Why didn't you?

 

Skye S. (26)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 9:58 pm
*sigh* This is depressing. I see my wonderful country flushing itself down the toilet. Its not a democracy anymore, but slowly ( or quickly) becomeing a dictatorship.
 

Blacktiger P. (229)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 10:17 pm
Every candidate left standing on the podeum are the hand pick people of the Bilderbergers and Illuminati. The Big Three of the SPP, poo-pooed all the theories on their podeum after the meeting in Quebec, while the Parliment of Manitoba stated the opening of the center of North America from Mexico to Churchill on James Bay, in Northern Manitoba. Get out your map and look. Anyone who would like to see the videos give me you private email, as I'm NOT taking the chance of loosing it in transit.
 

Yvonne White (139)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 10:18 pm
Durbin & Obama did the right thing (this time) so I was represented in IL. But c'mon guys ask the Party Leaders if the Democratic Party really thinks it can ADD members in Congress by voting RepubliCON?? It makes ALL Democrats look stupid!:(
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 10:29 pm
Does anyone have a list of ALL THE DEMOCRAT$ who $old out?
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 10:37 pm
Found the names ...

Senate Votes For Retroactive Immunity: Updated with Petition

Can’t say I’m surprised, though it is a sad statement in and of itself that anticipating that our Congress will not do the morally right thing for the citizens is unsurprising, but hey, welcome to BushWorld.

TPM:

Let there be no doubt: a majority of senators, and a large number of Democrats, think the telecoms should not suffer the hazard of accountability for cooperating with the administration’s warrantless wiretapping program. Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) took to the floor last night to give a speech asking, “This is our defining question, the question that confronts every generation: The rule of law, or the rule of men?” The resounding answer: the rule of men.

The Senate voted on the Dodd/Feingold amendment, which would have stripped retroactive immunity from the surveillance bill just now. The final tally was 31-67; crossing over to vote nay were Sens. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), Evan Bayh (D-IA), Daniel Inouye (D-HI), Tim Johnson (D-SD), Herb Kohl (D-WI), Mary Landrieu (D-LA), Claire McCaskill (D-MO), Mark Pryor (D-AR), Blanche Lincoln (D-AR), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Ken Salazar (D-CO), Tom Carper (D-DE), Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), Jim Webb (D-VA), Ben Nelson (D-NE), Bill Nelson (D-FL), Kent Conrad (D-ND), and Debbie Stabenow (D-MI). Update:
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 10:47 pm
UPDATE: The Dodd/Feingold amendment to remove telecom immunity from the bill just failed by a whopping vote of 31-67 -- 20 votes shy of the 50 needed for a passage. A total of 18 Democrats joined all Republicans in voting for immunity: Bayh, Inouye, Johnson, Landrieu, McCaskill, Ben Nelson, Bill Nelson, Stabenow, Feinstein, Kohl, Pryor, Rockefeller, Salazar, Carper, Mikulski, Conrad, Webb, and Lincoln. Obama voted against immunity, and
Hillary Clinton was the only Senator not voting.

Thus, the breakdown on the vote was similar to what it always is:

Democrats -- 31-18

Republicans -- 0-49
 

Malachi S. (6)
Tuesday February 12, 2008, 11:22 pm
The Democraps are doing such a wonderful job compared to the Repukes. If things keep going like this you will have nothing left. Constitution being pissed away by your leaders and the American public sitting idly by on their hands doing nothing.
Hillary does not have to vote, (enter sarcasm) "She's Special".
Just my opinion. Noted
 

Jim Phillips (2588)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 12:22 am
"sigh..."
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 4:16 am
WELL ITS NOT THE AMERICA I KNEW
 

RC deWinter (418)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 4:32 am
Final Vote Tally here:

An original bill to amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, to modernize and streamline the provisions of that Act, and for other purposes.
Vote Counts: YEAs 69
NAYs 29
Not Voting 2

 

Blue Bunting (855)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 5:31 am
Thank You, U.S. Senate! "The King can do no Wrong'; Wire Tapping is Fantastic!

Thank you, U.S. Senate for your latest cave in to the Bush-Cheney ongoing dictatorship!

It isn’t enough to endorse wire tapping.

Let’s go ahead and render the huge corporations that do it an invulnerable status. Why should they be subjected to troublesome lawsuits for following the old John McCain maxim of “We are at war”! meaning perpetual war for perpetual peace?

If we intend to be at war in Iraq for at least 100 years then it makes logical sense to snoop on citizens in the very country whose symbol of freedom you have guaranteed to export all over the world!

Think of all the money the phone companies can make snooping on people throughout the entire world, all in the name of preserving American freedom!

Tragically, you don’t even see this conduct pattern as the least bit contradictory, much less wrong and blatantly unconstitutional. If Jefferson, Madison and Franklin were alive today would they all be sounding like John McCain?

Many of us doubt it, no matter how strongly and quickly the Hatches, McConnells, Bunnings, Chamblisses and other Bushie robots act and genuflect to whatever the King commands!

Forget the Constitution!

For those of you Democrats who voted along with them, congratulations for putting the New World Order and the Project for the New American Century ahead of the U.S. Constitution!


Shame on you, Senator Hillary Clinton for NOT VOTING AT ALL!
 

Patrick Cardwell (24)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 6:21 am
With all due respect to all of you, how can you be surprised or have any other response than to recall every one elected in 06. We have been scammed by those who got our votes.

When are we (I'm being nice saying we) going to stop letting this crap just slip by without taking action. By action, I don't mean picking up your six shooter and taking potshots, I'm talking about writing, calling, emailing (waste of time) and telling these people how disappointed you are in what the Democrat lead Congress is doing.

They need to dump Nancy and Harry and put somebody in their positions who have the ... guts ... to do what is right and acceptable to the people for a change. Bet your bottom dollar, the candidates running for president at this time, aren't going to make any changes. It is in the hands of Congress and some how, they aren't getting the message!

JUST DO IT.... writing and complaining here isn't going to do the job. Starting another petition that will be ignored, isn't the answer either. Phone calls ... REPEATED... phone calls are a start!

Patrick
 

Ramona Gehl (141)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 7:55 am
Noted Cate.....and anytime you want come on up to Windsor, Ontario Canada.....although I don't think you'll be any happier!
 

Tsandi Crew (92)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 7:58 am
Ass was on tv this morning saying what he would or would not accept from Congress.

He puts in his order, and congress delivers. Constitution and law ignored, denied, thrown out.

Ass. You are right. I miss my country. Sorely. I would do strange things to get it back. If I could get close enough. I doubt it would do any good.
 

David S. (45)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 8:42 am
This is not my country anymore, so as far as I am concerned any action I choose to take is that against a hostile occupying power. It is why I believe strongly in ideas and work on projects like "secure calling" (http://www.gnutelephony.org/index.php/Secure_Call).

 

janny n. (6)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 9:07 am
This is a List of the "Nays" on the FISA bill... Clinton and Obama did not vote however, Obama did vote NO on the amendments to give the Telecoms immunity.

NAYs ---29
Akaka (D-HI)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 3
Clinton (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Obama (D-IL)
 

Dave Kane (143)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 9:56 am
The government no longer serves the people -- what does the constitution say about that?

Something about tearing down the house and rebuilding it from scratch?
 

Roseann Dudrick (74)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 12:47 pm
Actually, I heard Obama voted "no" on another poll and Clinton didn't vote. Let's find clarification.
 

Roseann Dudrick (74)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 12:49 pm
Oh I see Janny, Obama voted "NO" on giving the telecoms immunity. Sorry I just read the top of your post.
 

Terrie Williams (382)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 2:50 pm
Patrick, a lot of us on here don't spend most of our time bitching and complaining on these comment posts. A lot of us write and call damn near every other DAY. My sorry-assed 'representatives' all Bush Bots (Hutchinson, Cornyn and Brady--the upper echelon of Bush's Brownshirts what can I say) know me by name because I am so 'pesky'. Does it do any good when all my reps are Repugs--no, they turn a deaf ear and a blind eye to my appeals, petitions, scathing commentaries on their actions. I DO NOT MATTER to them because I am not a card-carrying Repug, I am an Independent. Thing is, they do not realize nor do they consider the FACT that I am not the only one. I think a lot of incumbents and Repugs as well as more than a few DemocRats are going to get a rude awakening this November. I hope so anyway. I have been trying for years to get my state's incumbents out of office. You see they are still there, still sucking up to the big oil, pharma and agri-business conglomerates that put them in office. I hope and I pray that this year will be different.

How many people, besides us here on this board, are mad as hell now and are not going to go down without a fight this election cycle? MILLIONS!
 

O O O O (107)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 3:53 pm
Those that now write or call their ?Congress Critters or have in last ? years are going to be on the loseing end perhaps when the action starts as it may when ? Americans wake up to fact talk matters not,not at all.
i do not have it up yet,but some here have asked,what's next,EU is now trying to go tofull fingerprints,EVERY SINGLE LAW the US has&patteren upon the US+full satellite survellance system use upon it "Claims"incomeing foreigners,but the survellance system is only able to be used,once one is inside the country,thus proof,it is againest all EC citizens themselves&perhaps,the new traffic camerias when there are enough of them can be thus used within the US,since unlike EC,the US will not "share"US mil info one gain gain,looking at a photo,generated by such system.
This was annoced,Wen.,byEC Justice Commissoner Franco Frattani,& is now in process of gaining the vote of all 27EC countries approvals-as if just reporting they approve,is proof to people they really did,or that people have any control over such votes or agree regardless of such voteing-Your New World Order-exspanding itself,impowering itself,faster than a six pack,double pregnacy!
 

Daniel Barker (35)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 4:30 pm
I support Cindy Sheehan for Congress/President/Speaker of the House. People are beginning to take matters into their own hands. Republicans get a lot of their funding by Big Oil - the hybrid vehicles are starting to outsell SUVs. Soon we will be driving electric cars, and while they use coal for power in the near future we will be using something else.



 

Barbara Liebowitz (899)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 4:46 pm
I'm sicki of it all
 

O O O O (107)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 4:47 pm
Agreed Mark.plus time for physical action while keeping ones head well down. check out new EC full replecant of US laws just annoced& looking for the 27 countries ok now in progress,if you call this,progress. My share,now online&scone person with slightly differant "take"on it as backup for it.
My,my,how the size & ferocity of this Alien Pregancy is progressing!
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 4:47 pm
All votes today, to pass the legislation, should be held as evidence. Today, the Senate of the United States, became accomplices, after the fact, to felonies. It is time for a CREDIBLE 3rd Party.
 

Elle J. (236)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 6:14 pm
Noted with disgust. I think I need to be in another profession. Maybe another Country. It is like Bush has the entire Congress drugged.
 

Lyn Z. (130)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 6:43 pm
noted with hanging head & shame
 

O O O O (107)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 6:49 pm
Why Lyn,it was not you that did this& "they'are not a part of most all of "Us",right?

I completely agree with you Elle,lead the way,i may follow,at least,for now.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 7:06 pm
I am not surprised one bit. It is a daily occurrance now that we loose another right or ammendment to the Constitution! I hope that M.F.er comes for me. I will take one of his pigs with me that is for damn sure and then they can take my life.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 7:08 pm
FUCK BUSH and FUCK BOTH PARTIES!
 

Wolfweeps Pommawolf (224)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 7:35 pm
Noted.
If people would use their heads..their minds instead of their wallets and credit cards.
What an add to the corporate glut.
It just sickens me.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 7:55 pm
well said, ricardo. . .i have long lost it with both parties. never again will i vote for a member of either party, much as i might respect and admire some individuals within each.
 

MEL ISSA (3)
Wednesday February 13, 2008, 10:02 pm
I didn't see that you had already posted this news, Cate.
I'm posting here what I posted on my own, pitiful lil news attempt. I give up. This is my last try at journalism. ROTFLMAO!

Makes me want to go in there with my AK47 paint gun (ha,ha,ha!) and decorate them all in their true colors...brown like stink. I keep telling myself this is America, but it feels more like Guantanamo Bay Prison.

This is interesting...
HAVANA: Cuba's government demanded that the United States return Guantanamo Bay to the island and denounced the "war on terror" prison, where six detainees could face the death penalty.

Foreign Minister Felipe Perez Roque, on Tuesday, charged that terror suspects being held in the US naval base in the southeastern tip of Cuba have been subjected to torture and face unfair legal treatment.

Cuba rejects "the violation of human rights, unjust incarceration of prisoners held there without charges, and their appearance in courts without guarantees and in which they are convicted in advance," he told reporters, without directly referring to the case of six detainees facing charges that carry the death penalty.

"We demand again the closure of the indecent Guantanamo prison, the return of the territory illegally occupied to our fatherland," Perez Roque said.

I like what Ron Paul had to say about government and unrestrained power.
"In a free society, government is restrained...and therefore political power is less important. I believe the proper role for government in America is to provide national defense, a court system for civil disputes, a criminal justice system for acts of force and fraud, and little else. In other words, the state as referee rather than an active participant in our society.
Political power is inherently dangerous in a free society: it threatens the rule of law, and thus threatens our fundamental freedoms.
Our Constitutional system, by contrast was designed to restrain political power and place limits on the size and scope of government. It is this system, the rule of law, which we should celebrate...not political victories.

I'm a registered Democrat who'll be writing in Ron Paul for President.
 

Melissa J B. (12)
Thursday February 14, 2008, 8:08 am
All I can say is I'm SO irritated with the liberties the government is giving iteself.
 

June Marshall (389)
Thursday February 14, 2008, 11:16 am
Let's take back the GOOD OLE USA! Once this bird is out of the whitehouse, we may have the opportunity if he hasn't hurt the country's citizens. Hopefully we can sweep up the 'YOU KNOW WHAT' he created.
 

O O O O (107)
Thursday February 14, 2008, 4:15 pm
Can't even use a paint gun in CA,as they may'em put in a law,saying they are real guns,& subject to the real gun laws,or they would outlaw them all,though the follow thru on them does not follow this,thank your chice of Deity(s).

What two Parties? What One Prty,if you mean the American people's?
 

O O O O (107)
Thursday February 14, 2008, 4:19 pm
(Copy/pasted,from comment i made in another discussion,as it also applies here.) :

Thursday February 14, 2008, 4:01 pm
This time just might be different! There are too many tareas,in too many amounts in each area,to hardly note.let alone CYA,then deal w/on the scale needed in America today,which is exactly@ high speed,what a winning military force tries to do,so i say again,we,the American People,as well as the spesific things that do make America,America,may be under direct attack by so called,our own,gov. It may not "look like" an attack,but it is-for the objectives& the effects are exactly the same. if it stinks like,looks like&effects are like-it IS-until one finds it not to be so. WE,the American People,are under attack from most all parts of this regime,& We,the American people,but WITH the HELP of any other people's,should now treat it physicaly,the same way. Bit of military wisdom for those who have not been in one:"The best postion=Defence,BUT,the best Defence,IS,a STRONG OFFENSE-done faster&with overwhelming force,than the opposition can withstand. Counter to this,is Defence,for a Very Long Haul,perhaps decades,underground as gerillias,which may be the true anti terriest law & operations procedures now going into force. They know what they will need,if we wake up,& wake up,so not done by just talk. Espre de Corp,accurate knowelge,well thought out plans,well exscuted in timely manor,with means adquate & then some for the job to get DONE.
Any organization,once formed,tends to take on,a life of it's own,regardless of if it continues to be needed.
It does form,it's own thought patterens,ways of perciveing things,ways of dealing with itself & others,with it's own guadance systems both from within& without itself to recive& in it's own percived amount(s)&types of things,or lack of those people or things-regardless of any rule,law,edict,self generated staments,vs intent.
ACTIONS:ARE. They are a permenate record,viewable,talk aroundable,but not truely deniable. Watch them,like a voteing record-not the talk. When proveably attacked,especaily,unprovoked-stop talking-DEAL WITH IT. START, Nothing you do not intend& follow that intention with full follow thru,regardless-unless the situation TRUELY changes. Peace-Yes-BUT, NOT at any price!

"Parabellem". "If,you would have,Peace-Be,then:Prepared-For WAR."

This impactacly does not state,to go make war upon anyone-it does say,Be Prepared. LOOK LIKE something not to be messed with in the first place. If you are bad,this works too,but-

Look LIKE a better Way-To Be,To Act,To Have-To Share,tha others not attempt,to steal it.

Some defintions of:Power. #1 Parebellium. #2 "Take:One round,of adquate calber,& HIT-What you see!"

Conquior none. if you must fight,do as nessary-and GO HOME!

Differances are,the Spice of Life. Do not leave in an eight cylender huff-enjoy your differances,as just that,differances-but they are,THEY,& you ARE-YOU.

If you do leave,someone,something,someplace-tell them,that you are,but also:Why-& LISTEN to THEM,not self. If you then do,you may no longer leave. TRUE FRIENDS,NEVER LEAVE-REGARDLESS,for beyond Life.

A nation acts,as it people act,or fail to act-right or wrong:with both-Their ACTIONS SHOW
 

Carolyn T. (235)
Thursday February 14, 2008, 6:40 pm
Noted. Another congressional betrayal. My spirits may be low, but my ire is elevated. Needn't look to elected officials. The scales of justice have been further weighted against us with this vote, and--yes--I miss my country....this landscape is hostile and daily the United States endures torture from its captors in the White House and on Capitol Hill. An important story, Cate. I wish the "news" was different.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday February 14, 2008, 8:00 pm
LET'S SEE HERE. BUSH WANTS TO INTERCEPT TERROR CELL COMMUNICATION, AND YOU STUPID COCKSUCKERS DON'T LIKE THAT. JUST SHOWS WHAT STUPID COCKSUCKERS YOU REALLY ARE.
 

O O O O (107)
Thursday February 14, 2008, 8:30 pm
Poor Kitten=TROLL.
 

Denice G. (45)
Friday February 15, 2008, 12:38 am
Noted. I have no words for this. I just don't know what to say. The USA I grew up in is gone.
 

Denise S. (5)
Friday February 15, 2008, 4:59 pm

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House is criticizing Congress for failing to extend a law allowing the government to eavesdrop on phone calls and e-mails in the United States in cases of suspected terrorist activity.

President Bush plans to make remarks about the matter during an appearance in the Rose Garden.

The Senate passed a bill that Bush supports. It includes retroactive protection from lawsuits for telecommunications companies that cooperated with government eavesdropping following the Sept. 11 attacks. The House has not passed the measure, and the law expires at midnight Saturday.

The White House says the failure to pass the bill risks losing the cooperation of the telecommunications industry. And the White House says that could put Americans in danger.
 

RC deWinter (418)
Friday February 15, 2008, 5:03 pm
MORE BS FROM BUSHCO
 

Denise S. (5)
Friday February 15, 2008, 5:05 pm
US Congress Begins Recess Without Sending Bush Wiretap Bill
By Deborah Tate
Capitol Hill
15 February 2008

Tate report - Download (MP3)
Tate report - Listen (MP3)


The U.S. Congress has begun a 12-day recess without meeting President Bush's demand to renew a warrantless wiretap law set to expire on Saturday. President Bush is appealing to lawmakers to act when they return to Washington at the end of the month, saying it is a matter of national security. VOA's Deborah Tate reports from Capitol Hill.

http://voanews.com/english/2008-02-15-voa59.cfm
 

Denise S. (5)
Friday February 15, 2008, 5:11 pm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/15/politics/politico/thecrypt/main3837800.shtml

Both Sides Dig In On FISA Fight
By Daniel W. Reilly

Feb 15, 2008

(The Politico) As Congress heads out of town for recess without extending electronic surveillance legislation, both sides began digging on Friday for what could be a long and intense partisan fight over national security.

On Thursday, House Democrats finished up their work for the week without taking up legislation to either extend a temporary electronic surveillance law, the Protect America Acr, or finish an overhaul of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which the Senate passed on Tuesday.
 

Patrick Cardwell (24)
Saturday February 16, 2008, 4:29 am
You know, something we have forgotten, rather the Bushco ilk have forgotten and that is the Clinton philosophy of dealing with the voting public. Keep their stomachs full and let the make money and the president can do about what he wants.

That is what Clinton did. That is why his #'s never moved from his high performance ratings. Bush on the other hand, has let the economy go to hell, got us in an unpopular war, and now the jobs are going and the stomachs are getting empty. What a duffus!

The trade laws were enforced under Clinton, and a few of us screamed foul, but the majority just went along with the flow. I've watched the stock market for years and expected all hell to break loose under the Clinton Administration, but it didn't primarily because, "We the People were investing and the big guys who control the rise and fall of the stock market lost their punch. Now, the little people who have kept the market up are falling out too.

Since Bush has led this country down the path of destruction, the people are losing money and jobs, we are squealing foul about the spying and just about everything he does. Rightfully so, but I would be you a dollar to a donut, Clinton could have gotten away with it.

There is something rotten in Denmark when the President's people can't take 1/2 hour to go to the secret court, get a rubber stamped warrant, and spy on whomever. Hum, anybody remember Richard Nixon?
 

Patrick Cardwell (24)
Saturday February 16, 2008, 4:30 am
AND by the way, when did the Democrat lose control of Congress? Get on those phones!!!
 

Patrick Cardwell (24)
Saturday February 16, 2008, 6:00 am
"DERN ... I know... it's Patrick again ... I wish he would break his fingers... :-)"

I know many of your are probably saying that or just deleting my messages, but IF you have never read any of my messages, read this one!

A friend sent me the following. This man is about the only one on the mass media to stand up for WE THE PEOPLE! Take a look. You will feel so dern good you won't hit ground for days... If perchance it doesn't work, let me know and I'll get you the transcript.

http://www.truthout.org:80/docs_2006/printer_021508A.shtml
 

Terrie Williams (382)
Saturday February 16, 2008, 7:11 am
Keith Olbermann is my hero. I live for his 'special comments'. That one the other night damn near made me orgasm!! He calls it like he sees it and he is not afraid!!!! I wanna have his baby!!! If I could have babies that is!!! LOL. I worry about him though. I keep praying that he doesn't meet with an 'accident' or have a mysterous 'heart attack' one of these days. He has made himself a target.
 

Merry Loscalzo-Stumpf (75)
Sunday February 17, 2008, 2:52 pm
Noted with lots of anger and much sadness.
 

Vicki T. (14)
Monday October 13, 2008, 12:32 pm
Bush Wacks Grandpa worked with the Nazi. Guess his first three years of his upbringing still sticks with him. Cheney is just an evil Darth Vader.
 
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