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There's a Woman on the Ticket


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: McCain, Palin, vice president, US elections )

RC
- 2557 days ago - nytimes.com
McCain't has chosen Alaska governor Sarah Palin as his presumptive vice-presidential nominee. Read all about it, and her.



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Kathy Chadwell (362)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:29 am
Too bad he's not for women's rights.
Once again, in my opinion, he's nothing but a hypocrit, talking out of the side of his mouth:(
 

Kathy Chadwell (362)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:29 am
Oh, Thanks Cate:)
 

RC deWinter (418)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:33 am
Interesting...Palin "first rose to prominence as a whistle-blower uncovering ethical misconduct in state government." Good goddess, if these two Repugs are elected she may as well have a whistle surgically sewn onto her mouth for all the BULLSH*T that goes on in the federal government...LOL!
 

RC deWinter (418)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:34 am
Of course, she's anti-Roe v. Wade - so women who are freethinking and progressive will have a very hard time swallowing that! I still plan to write in my vote.
 

Patrick Cardwell (24)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:35 am
OMG ... this is a complete surprise! I had my money on Romney all the way.

I think... no I don't ... If.. the Clinton supporters change to vote for McSame because he has a woman, then they are worthless! This is the most hypocritical move he has made yet.

Oh WAIT just a minute. Maybe not. There is a kitchen and laundry in the White House isn't there. This might work out just fine for him. That way his lovely wife won't have to break a nail... I know. I'm sexist... LOL
 

RC deWinter (418)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:38 am
I was afraid it was going to be Old Worthless Neo-Con traitor Joe Lieberman...one of MY senators....UGH...
 

June Rice (125)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:38 am
I'm with you, Kathy. This is a ploy.
 

RC deWinter (418)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:39 am
*Vigorously washing Patrick's mouth out with soap - from the laundry room* LMAO
 

June Rice (125)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:43 am
LMAO Patrick!
Cate! tears are rolling...
ain't that the truth about the whistle.
I couldn't see these before.
 

Dave Kane (308)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:47 am
I like this move -- to me it shows exactly how desperate McCain is (not that there's anything wrong with a woman on the ticket, but she might be more of a Repug hardliner than McCain is so I think this will help him with the Repug base more than anything else). Good luck with your desperation pick Johhny boy, now we can all watch as you self-destruct (ahhhhhhhhh, a bit of a daydream maybe?) What wouldn't he do to become president?

Two months is a looooooooooong time and i believe there's a really good chance for McCain to self-destruct, probably live and during prime time. Keep the popcorn ready, this should be entertaining ; )

Lieberman is just too damn smug -- how did he EVER get elected in the first place?
 

Marc Gartmann (142)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:48 am
When Mc Cain dies - he is an old man - you could still have a woman for president.
 

Margi L. (129)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:50 am
I can only hope that the women of this country are too smart to fall for this blatant ploy!
 

Linda H. (199)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:52 am
Hey!Cate Let me have a turn at the soap Lye soap works best you know the ole fashion kind.LOL I also this is a ploy to get the women's vote etc. but if she is anti abortion and so conservative Big mistake!But it is a shock!
 

Brenda H. (29)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:54 am
WHAT ABSOLUTE BS! PALIN WANTS TO OPEN ANWAR TO BIG OIL! B~~~~~!
 

Nancy M. (204)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:54 am
Well, this is just pandering- by choosing a women, he's hoping to get some of the Hillary fans. And I agree Cate, I am glad it is not Joe Lieberman
 

. (0)
Friday August 29, 2008, 10:09 am
It's like watching 2 kids play "Battleship"-what will the next move be?!?
The manipulation is so obvious it is a wonder more people aren't disgusted.
I guess they have 2 more months to do that...
 

Clever Pseudonym (176)
Friday August 29, 2008, 10:18 am
The smart women won't vote for her and the Republican ones won't be able to figure out why very suddenly a woman is fit for the presidency. I wonder how "Doctor" Laura Schlessinger would spin this? Just popped out a down-syndrome baby and running for VP? What about all those puppies she's got at home? It wouldn't be "right" to let someone else raise them.
 

Echo ELES (264)
Friday August 29, 2008, 10:27 am
We had lots of problems with her during the Maggie the Elephant fiasco. She is into hunting, allows areal hunting of wolves and tons of other non-animal friendly issues.
 

Hans L. (958)
Friday August 29, 2008, 10:27 am
OMG Palin realy is a a bad person! She is the worst governor in the USA! But she would fit perfectly to Mc Cain! And since Bush has also found enough fellow idiots to vote for him lets wait and see! Obama would be better for the USA thats for sure!
 

RC deWinter (418)
Friday August 29, 2008, 10:32 am
ARRRRRRRGGHHHHH....an animal killer? Well, once again, this proves to me - (and I know most of you disagree with me, so let's NOT argue about it - you vote your way and I'll vote mine!) - that I have NO CHOICE between the 2 major parties in this upcoming election
 

RC deWinter (418)
Friday August 29, 2008, 10:33 am
Of course, Biden is a justice killer...so, ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice....
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Friday August 29, 2008, 10:39 am
So ... is she delegating her "mothering" to another woman to take care of that baby while she's campaigning? Is there anything more important than a new baby?
 

. (0)
Friday August 29, 2008, 10:41 am
the whole thing sucks i dislike her
 

Dolores H. (2)
Friday August 29, 2008, 10:50 am
I was in total shock when I heard this. Truly thought he'd pick Tim Pawlenty. But Palin? Check this out. http://www.issues2000.org/Sarah_Palin.htm I'm still shaking my head.
 

Past Member (0)
Friday August 29, 2008, 10:53 am
Male or female, black or white, what difference if it's an environmental rape-and-pillage governor? She's anti-environment, anti-wildlife, anti-nature, pro-drill-drill-drill. She's true to the Republican vision of an oil well in every back yard, and a full-pharma-stocked medicine cabinet in every bathroom. Big Corpo rolls on. It CAN Happen Here if the dictator wanna-be replaces the dictator-that-is. Providing that DTI allows an election at all.
 

Karin B. (31)
Friday August 29, 2008, 11:05 am
Yeah, Palin wasted over $400,000 in tax dollars to convince Alaskan rednecks that it's a good idea to shoot wolves from aircrafts again. After 33 years it is legal again to get a $15 license and then get in the air and shoot them. Her next goal: aerial hunting of bears. I sure hope all the animal advocates and organizations will get together and spend moneys to educate people about her record.

 

Arielle S. (316)
Friday August 29, 2008, 11:29 am
As if we needed more reasons to be anti-McCain....
 

Past Member (0)
Friday August 29, 2008, 11:48 am
Thanks so much for posting this Cate...I have to acknowledge that you are not a peron of humour, You do have a hesrt of gold...It is indeed sad that a woman is no longer standing for the presidency...I firmly believe that an outwar of idiotic 'testesterone' is not neccessary but someone, with a simple mother and child is...It is a damn shame that Hillary found that the only way out! (and her way in, Not forgotten but fotgiven) was to shoot Obama in the back and was thus denied a 'real' choice in her future...Once again... Although defeated she has proven in the 'Worsrset'. possibly very naive chance that she may 'come again.' ...I hope not!...There has to be someone else who is 'real'...Someone who actually cares about the people above one who is so interested in her own life?...I think not../.I lost this one, but I will be back for the rest...I am right?...I seriously do not care for the rest: 'I am man. I am invinsible, (Iam woman' (Germain Greer?) ...Who cares anymore?..I care!...I lie,...Keep well...I care Do you?...

Obviously she has planted the seeds of 'am I still viable? and at the next election ...Hopefully not...A person who lies with contempt?..What say you?...Wrong again?...
 

Kathy H. (50)
Friday August 29, 2008, 11:54 am
I also submitted a story about the McCain/Palin ticket as well see my story:http://www.care2.com/news/member/495939075/862522 It is just plain bad new for the enviorment and are world. It has nothing to do with being a woman. She wants to drill in Alaska, hunt down wolves, allow the polor bears to disapear from the face of the earth. She is a enviromental disaster wanting to happen, if the McCain/Palin ticket wins in November-watch out planet earth!!!
 

Joycey B. (750)
Friday August 29, 2008, 11:58 am
I was shocked he chose this woman. He won't win. Noted with thanks Cate.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Friday August 29, 2008, 12:01 pm
Animal rights activists will be protesting Palin, who is an animal killer/hunter and a wearer of furs.
 

Kathy H. (50)
Friday August 29, 2008, 12:07 pm
Sorry the http:link I but in is incorrect, If you want to read my sorry I think you would need to look it up under the title: "Enivironmental Groups Criticize McCains Choise of Palin". It's under U.S Politic and Govement. Anyway just wanted to say sorry for the wrong link. Thanks Cate for the story. We all need to do come Nov so the McCain/Palin ticket does not win!!
 

Past Member (0)
Friday August 29, 2008, 12:07 pm
Careful Blue Bunting. Animal rights activists are a terrorist group in the "Free" United States where the Corpos rule. The American Gestapo would just as soon exterminate you along with the wolves and the grizzly bears.
 

Mary H. (47)
Friday August 29, 2008, 12:13 pm
What a mess!!
They may have the NRA votes but anyone who is pro-environment, pro-animal rights &/or pro choice are now shaking their heads...
Ty Cate
 

Kristi K. (2029)
Friday August 29, 2008, 12:15 pm
If this choice was to get Hillary Clinton supporters to vote for McCain, he just blew it. This former Miss Alaska Pageant runner-up turned Mayor turned Governor is a moose-burger eating, life-long NRA member, ultra-conservative pro-life candidate will not work.
 

Tim Redfern (581)
Friday August 29, 2008, 12:21 pm
McSame sez, "When you get to know her,
you'll be as impressed as I am."
Ralph Reed sez, "She's a home run."

Okay, when John McSame and Ralph Reed both like Palin
there has to be something wrong with her. Now we just wait
to find out what it is.
Thanks, Cate.
noted.
 

Hans L. (958)
Friday August 29, 2008, 12:35 pm
I think Palin realy is a bitch i would love to see a woman in the white house my favorite would be L Hunter Lovins she has brains she has guts and she knows how to make America leading when it comes to sustainability! I met her at the ECO Design forum and she realy has what people who want to change this world should have!

L. Hunter Lovins, Esq., is the president and founder of Natural Capitalism, Inc. and co-creator of the Natural Capitalism concept. In 1982 she co-founded Rocky Mountain Institute and led that organization as its CEO for Strategy until 2002. Under her leadership, RMI grew into an internationally recognized research center, widely celebrated for its innovative thinking in energy and resource issues. By the time Hunter left, the institute had grown to a staff of 50 people and a $7 million annual budget, half of it earned through programmatic enterprise.

In 2001, Hunter was named one of four people from North America to serve as a delegate to the United Nations Prep Conference for Europe and North America for the World Summit on Sustainable Development. She served as a Commissioner in the State of the World Forum's Commission on Globalization, co-chaired by Mikhail Gorbachev, and Jane Goodall.

Lovins has co-authored nine books and dozens of papers, and was featured in the award-winning film, Lovins On the Soft Path. Her latest book, Natural Capitalism, co-authored with Amory Lovins and business author Paul Hawken, was released in September 1999. It has been translated into a dozen languages and was the subject of a Harvard Business Review summary. Recent articles by Hunter have appeared in World Link, World Business Academy Review, American Prospect and Los Angeles Times.

Trained as a lawyer (JD, Loyola University School of Law, Los Angeles), Lovins has managed international non-profits, created several corporations, and is in great demand as a speaker and consultant. Her areas of interest and expertise include Natural Capitalism, globalization, economic development, governance, land management, energy, water, green real-estate development and community economic development. She has taught at dozens of universities, including an engagement as the Henry R. Luce Visiting Professor at Dartmouth College. She is currently Professor of Business at Presidio School of Management in the first accredited MBA program in Sustainable Management.

Sustainability in Action

Lovins has consulted for governments and the private sector, briefing senior management at such organizations as the international finance corporation, Interface, Inc., Bank of America, Allstate, Calvert Social Investment Fund, Royal Dutch/Shell Group, and numerous utility companies. Lovins' public-sector clients have included the U.S. Defense Civil Preparedness Agency of the pentagon, Environmental Protection Agency, the Bonneville Power Administration, the Solar Energy Research Institute, and the German Federal Environment Agency. She has addressed such audiences as the U.S. Congress, The World Economic Forum at Davos, the World's Fair Energy Symposia, the Industrial Designers Society's WorlDesign, the Epiphany service at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine, the State of the World Forum, Bioneers, the Global Economic Forum, the World Watch State of the World Conference and hundreds of conferences and college symposia. She has appeared on numerous television shows including "60 Minutes," "Good Morning America," Pat Robertson's "700 Club," Today, Bill Moyers' "NOW," and hundreds of news programs.

Awards

Lovins shared a 1982 Mitchell Prize for an essay on reallocating utility capital, a 1983 Right Livelihood Award (often called the "alternative Nobel Prize"), a 1993 Nissan Award for an article on Hypercars, and the 1999 Lindbergh Award for Environment and Technology. She has received several honorary doctorates. In 2000 she was named a "Hero for the Planet" by Time Magazine, and received the Loyola University award for Outstanding Community Service. In 2001 she received the Leadership in Business Award and shared the Shingo Prize for Manufacturing Research.

Corporate Service

Lovins has served on the Boards of one government, three private corporations and many public interest groups. She advises numerous companies and nonprofits, including GreenMountain.com. She was a founding director of RMI’s second for-profit spin-off, E source, until its 1999 sale for $18 million to the Financial Times group.

Look at Angela Merkel, 52, won last fall's elections for the chancellorship of Europe's largest economy, surprising the incumbent, Gerhard Schroder, and even members of her own Christian Democratic Union.

Since then Merkel, a scientist turned politician, has been impressing world leaders from Tony Blair to George W. Bush.

And how about our Neelie Kroes (born July 19, 1941 in Rotterdam, Zuid-Holland) is a Dutch politician and businessperson.

Neelie Kroes was a Member of Parliament in the Netherlands for the People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD). Later she was the Dutch State Secretary and Minister of Transport and Water Management. Neelie Kroes was member of the board of commissioners of several multinationals. She currently is the European Commissioner for Competition.

I have allways liked to work with women! And since i have been able to work with the most beautiful and greatest women on earth like Linda Evangelista i would love to see many more women in politics and in business! Think how much good a woman like Jane Goodall has done! Look here in Care2 20 times more great woman than great guys! Why? Because woman are better than man thats the secret! Companies run by women make more profit did you know that? And i also believe that they care more!

Palin is a great woman for the hunters and big oil & money she is as bad as GWB!



 

Marion Y. (322)
Friday August 29, 2008, 1:08 pm
This was the smartest move McCain has made in this campaign to elect a woman. The MAIN reason he chose Palin is because he thinks Biden won't attack her, just as Obama would not attack Clinton. Why is it women want equal pay and respect, yet they expect their opponent to not go after them as they do? I like to be treated as a lady, but in the boardroom, if I bare my teeth at someone, I would expect them to come back biting after me. If we expect equal pay, we need to provide equal work and all that goes with it. No double standards or hypocrisy.

McCain underestimates Biden. Grossly. Just as he underestimated Obama. But after last night, McCain must have been sitting straight up in his chair and changed his decision to Palin. McCain is so shook up that he postponed next week's RNC events "due to" Hurricane Gustav. How convenient. He postponed it because he needs time to change his game plan, prepare his agenda and speech for the event.

The other reasons to select Palin are to gain staunch Hillary supporters, and have a VP who supports the values and issues he holds so dearly.

I don't know if this is an issue or will be brought out in the campaign, but questions have now arisen over whether Palin used her office to try and fire her ex -brother-in-law from a state trooper's position. Conflict of interest? In any event, this is minor compared to the other negatives against her.

After last night's historical speech by Obama, McCain did the right thing by selecting Palin. He's going to need every bit of help he can get.

Personally, I WOULD vote for McCain over Obama or even Clinton IF I believed he offered a better plan. I would never vote for a woman just because I'm a woman, nor for a half black candidate because I am half black. When Jesse Jackson tried for the presidency, I did not support him. I had no respect for him and felt he was a weak candidate. I wouldn't care if a purple, one-eyed alien was on the ballot. If I thought they offered the best of choices, I would vote for him. I don't vote party or person. I vote for the ability and character of the individual. Always have, always will.

A social scientist once said that people identify with their own kind. That racism and bias would exist if everyone in the world was white, with the only differences being that half had blue eyes and the other group had brown eyes. Because of ignorance, these two groups would hate each other and side with those of the same eye color. Sound absurd? Why? Fear and arrogance. Human nature at the base level. Fear of the unknown. Fear of thinking they are different from us. Arrogance in thinking (foolishly) that we are superior to them.

How crazy is that? We all pull our pants down the same way...I think. I laughed when I read this because that is what many voters do now. The majority of us are only comfortable with and support those who look like us or have some particular commonality. And now even women are so dead set on getting a woman elected (as if then we will be superior), they will vote for that person even to their detriment.

I am so thankful I have a mixed race background and was raised in a household with just about all races in it. I identify with all nationalities, am able to respect all people and feel comfortable in all settings. As a child, I have lived in all black and all white neighborhoods and experienced racism in both. I've seen the good, bad and ugly in both races. I know I must go by their character. I must somehow get to their soul to learn what they are about. The only way I can make the right discernment, is to know who and what I am. It can be a brutal process, but it is cathartic (and saves on years of therapy). This is at the root of failed relationships (marriage, family, friendships, neighbors, employers, employees). And we continually make poor decisions and selections with people simply because we have not resolved who we are and the conflicts within ourselves.

In the military while in Japan, my officers told me and another female to understand that Japanese people treat Americans cordially, but we can never trust them, as they don't trust us While on vacation there, we were told to never get emotionally close to the Japanese.

Fear.

I knew this and ignored the advice. These people were a part of me just as surely as my family is. I mingled with the Japanese, enjoyed them and their culture, and left with a deep respect for these wonderful people. I could have lived there for the rest of my life. These (white) officers returned to America without learning and having the wonderful experience I had had. How do I know? We all talked about it.

For those with an identify issue and vote in this way, they will probably never open their minds and see what is going on with the other candidates. That is fine. But for those of us who are not afraid of those who appear different than us, are ready to explore real change for the better, cleaner opportunities and hope for the future, we have examined Obama closely and know he holds the key to unite us, help fix this country, and help bring the world to peace.
 

Arielle S. (316)
Friday August 29, 2008, 1:24 pm
You are so right, Marion - FEAR - False Evidence Appearing Real
It's what the power mongers count on to keep us all in check. Especially when they have nothing else to offer.
 

Myriah Maston (23)
Friday August 29, 2008, 1:30 pm
I think it's great to see the advent of women ballsing up to run in this election on the Presidential and VP spots. I will tell you this though, while I haven't decided who I plan on voting for yet, if I am going to vote for a woman to become my Presidednt or Vice President, I think I will go for the gusto and vote for Cynthia McKinney and Rosa Clemente. Because from what I've heard from these phenominal women, they at least have our rights in mind, and are not conservative, narrow minded bubble heads who will sell short my reproductive system to seek approval from their peers. I believe that they are running becasue they genuinely believe in changing the way the government is working.
Sorry climbing off my soapbox on them now. I really do think they are wonderful women though, but I also agree with a lot of thngs Ron Paul believes in. So those are my options in November.
 

Diana D. (177)
Friday August 29, 2008, 1:37 pm
Thanks for the posting Cate. I heard this on NPR while having breakfast, almost lost my breakfast. She sounds so slimy, just what the McBush lovers are looking for.
 

Gayla S. (50)
Friday August 29, 2008, 1:54 pm
Cate as usual, thanks for the great post. I've never heard of this woman, however, just from what I've read, Hammy Bear, said it all right on. I can't fathom a mother of 5, 1 a special needs kid, would vote for guaranteed environmental destruction! Is she planning on leaving that as a part of her legacy. Boy, talk about someone with NO experience. If she thinks that she can shatter the glass ceiling that Hillary couldn't get thru, well then, she's as crazy as the rest of them. Also noted is the fact that McSame is OLD,in age and thinking, what happens if she has to take over???
 

C G. (63)
Friday August 29, 2008, 1:56 pm
Obviously, McCain thinks women are morons who can be easily manipulated by picking somebody with ovaries who is anti-woman, anti-animal and anti-environment. Nobody who be that stupid or easily manipulated, could they?
 

Kristi K. (2029)
Friday August 29, 2008, 1:59 pm
Sarah Palin is a Miss Alaska Pageant runner-up turned Mayor turned Governor who is also a moose-burger eating life-long NRA Member with strong Pro-Life views. McCain buckled to the extreme right of the party and passed over Mitt Romney because he is a Morman and Tom Ridge because he is Pro-choice.

One heart beat away from a 72 year old heart needs a little more of a resume than one that will fit on a 3X5 card.
 

Kate S. (114)
Friday August 29, 2008, 2:28 pm
As far as I can tell, she likes killing everything except a rapist's baby-to-be. Words can't describe how abhorrent I find this woman to be.
 

Joan Mclaughlin (133)
Friday August 29, 2008, 2:33 pm
more tactics!!
 

K U Harder (8)
Friday August 29, 2008, 2:41 pm
The next sound you hear is that of Barack Obama running away with the election.
 

Shawn olsen (4)
Friday August 29, 2008, 2:46 pm
Right on Charlie G. you are exactly right. This was the most cynical, smarmy ploy to use this anti-woman to counteract Clinton's campaign and Obama not picking her, but believe me if he would have picked Clinton, McCain would have picked someone different. I would bet that he changed his pick at the last minute after he saw Obama's speech last night. This is not going to work, I was for Clinton and am now enthusiastically behind the brilliant Obama. And Palin's husband works for British Petroleum and she is a anti-animal, anti-environment, anti-choice and anti-decency candidate. For her to bring up Clinton and Ferrarro in her acceptance speech was unconscionable. How stupid do they think progressive women are? Listening to the Ed Shultz radio program on Air America, he had a really conservative leader who said that he had just left right wing people who were excited as all get out and think it is now a slam dunk for McCain. They only way McCain wins now is if he and Karl Rove cheat, period. This decision proves that McCain has for sure sold his soul to the devil to be president. This woman is unethical, hates wildlife and wants to drill in the last real natural treasure in this United States, as well as wanting to overturn Roe vs. Wade and give everything and more to the big oil companies and all other corporations at the expense of real Americans. John McCain should be truly ashamed of himself. Phyllis Shafley, the right wing--zealot nut who is totally anti-gay love this pick because it will bring all of the hate-mongers out of the woodwork. For this woman who thinks it is ok to murder these beautiful wolves from an airplane is just tottally barbaric. If this country wants to go backwards to the 19th century just elect the McCain-Palin ticket. If she has so many values then why the hell doesn't she stay home with her five children. Any young girl that votes for McCain better be ready to give up their birth control also. I am sorry Cate you should find a way to vote for Obama--put your pride aside and think about all the total havoc Bush, Cheney, and McCain have already wreaked on this world and find it in your heart to forgive Biden and the others who I believe are really good people. I respect you Cate if you cannot, but just really think about it between now and November. Once again this choice should really energize the environmental, animal loving, pro choice, pro education people who believe in this country enough and it's diversity, This Palin choice is an insult to any thinking person that wants to move forward and progress in the 21st century. The abortion issue is why he picked this woman and now McCain and his minions can milk this women's five kids and use the one with Down's Syndrome because believe me these are the real reasons he picked this woman, Rove is truly behind this choice, enjoy the ride McCain because with this cynical ploy you are toast! Hilary and Chelsea need to really come out fighting too--and I trust that they will.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Friday August 29, 2008, 2:52 pm
John McCain is the definition of a Kept Man.

His wife owns all the houses which he lives in. She has all the money, the corporate jet, the partial ownership in the Diamondbacks. John gets an allowance.

Now, John has been told by the oil/gas lobby that his VP pick is Sara Palin, Governor of the ANWAR Drilling Company, whose day job is signing official state papers in Juneau.

John has been a kept man since Viet Nam.

Yes, yes, I know he was a POW>

 

Marion Y. (322)
Friday August 29, 2008, 2:59 pm
Even McCain's status as a POW is highly questionable.

I'm glad McCain chose Palin. It was a foolish, deadly move and Obama-Biden will skillfully beat this weak team. Again, McCain is clueless to the needs of America, and thinks independents and women sitting on the fence will fall over to his side without weighing the facts.

The only way McCain-Palin will win is if the election is stolen. If that happens, the one foot America has on the ground will slip over the cliff with the other one.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Friday August 29, 2008, 3:05 pm
Gov. Sarah Palin on Wednesday revealed an audio recording that shows an aide pressuring the Public Safety Department to fire a state trooper embroiled in a custody battle with her sister.

Palin, who has previously said her administration didn't exert pressure to get rid of trooper Mike Wooten, also disclosed that members of her staff had made about two dozen contacts with public safety officials about the trooper.

[...]

But Palin said her decision to fire Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan last month had nothing to do with his refusal to dump trooper Mike Wooten.

The governor said evidence of what she called a "smoking gun" conversation, and other calls made by her aides, only recently surfaced as the attorney general started an inquiry at her request into the circumstances surrounding her firing of Monegan. Palin wanted the review because a special investigator hired by the Legislature is about to investigate the firing and a legislator has been quoted in a newspaper story talking about impeachment.

The majority of the calls came from Palin's chief of staff at the time, Mike Tibbles, according to information gathered by the state attorney general's office. Attorney General Talis Colberg and Palin's husband, Todd, also contacted Monegan about the trooper.

Do we really need to put another wildly inexperienced, purely political choice into the White House, only to see issues from that candidate's past potentially stain the Vice Presidency?
 

Carol N. (5)
Friday August 29, 2008, 3:17 pm
Just how stoooooped does McCain think we women are? Does he really think we'll elect him president by subsituting Marian the Librarian for a States-WOMAN like Hillary? Certainly another example of his very bad judgement, underestimating our intelligence, and being so out of touch with the American psyche!
 

serge vrabec (280)
Friday August 29, 2008, 3:22 pm




Alaska Governor Signs Natgas Pipeline License Bill
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US: August 29, 2008


ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Gov. Sarah Palin on Wednesday signed a bill giving the state authority to award TransCanada Corp a license to build and operate a multibillion-dollar pipeline to ship natural gas from the North Slope.


The line, which the company estimates will cost US$26 billion to build, would ship about 4 billion cubic feet of natural gas a day starting in 2018, according to TransCanada's plan.
Two big oil producers, BP and ConocoPhillips, are pushing a competing natural gas pipeline plan. But the license to TransCanada would ensure that the state would not negotiate with any other developer.

The bill, passed by the legislature in a special session, goes into effect in 90 days, after which state officials will have the power to officially award the license.

Palin called the bill a milestone in Alaska's decades-long effort to secure a pipeline to deliver the North Slope's known 35 trillion cubic feet of natural gas to markets.

"It's a huge step forward on the new road of making that Alaska gas pipeline a reality," the Republican governor said before signing the bill at the Alaska AFL-CIO's biannual conference.

TransCanada proposes to build a 1,715-mile line from Prudhoe Bay to an existing pipeline hub in Canada.

The company's bid was the only one of five proposals submitted last year that met all the terms of the Alaska Gasline Inducement Act, which established state mandates for a natural gas project.

Palin reiterated her belief that TransCanada is right for the project. "We have North America's premier independent pipeline company working with us now," she said.

Although it will be months before a license is formally awarded, TransCanada has started field work, said Tony Palmer, company vice president for Alaska natural gas development.

Palmer said at the bill signing that TransCanada was seeking shipping commitments from natural gas producers including the major North Slope oil producers -- BP, ConocoPhillips and Exxon Mobil -- which hold leases to most of the North Slope's known natural gas.

Supporters of the competing Alaska natural gas pipeline project, called Denali, say it has better financial backing than TransCanada's project. But TransCanada backers consider it crucial to ensure that any new pipeline is owned and operated independently of the resource producers so there is ready access to new shippers.

Palmer said TransCanada would do "whatever we can to put forth an attractive commercial proposal" to producers and shippers.

BP, ConocoPhillips and Exxon Mobil declined to submit bids for a state license, saying the law had overly rigid mandates that they could not meet. (Reporting by Yereth Rosen; Editing by David Gregorio)




Story by Yereth Rosen

She definetely does not seem environ. friendly, nice try McSame! Thx Cate!

 

Marion Y. (322)
Friday August 29, 2008, 3:42 pm
Exxon has been working on this project since the late 1970's. Palin just sealed the fate of AK. The domino effect of this disaster will run through America like a train, and affect the entire world. But it really doesn't matter. These corporations are already drilling in unknown vast territories without approval anyway.

By the way, did you know Exxon and other oil companies hire the top 2% of engineers, geologist, geophysicists and other scientists out of our top universities? It would blow your mind what they pay these people and how they live. Remember, education is only as good as what we do with it.

Thanks Serge.
 

RC deWinter (418)
Friday August 29, 2008, 4:03 pm
You know, as Hammy pointed out about how wildlife activists are viewed by many in the "real" (hah!) world, there are BUCKETLOADS of people who WANT to drill anywhere and everywhere for fuel. So to many, her shortsighted position on that issue might be taken as a plus....yuk....
 

David Gould (155)
Friday August 29, 2008, 4:26 pm
Hi...long way down this page...another great story Cate Thanks.

I am wondering if ariel Palin hunting would ever take off...seems she wants to be the last wild beast in the world.

Just my two pennies worth anyhow.
 

Tamara T. (8)
Friday August 29, 2008, 4:36 pm
All I can to this before anyone starts saying what a slime ball Palin is, maybe you should at least VISIT Alaska, let alone live here. Do I disagree with some of Palin's actions? Yes, without a doubt. Is she an idiot, slim ball or the worst Governor in the US? No. She's done a tremendous amount of work in modernizing the Alaska employment scene so the younger people no longer go south, just to find employment that supports their families. She is the only reason that most Alaskans will receive an Energy Rebate (funded by the State, not the Federal Government) this fall so some of us will be able to heat our homes this winter. One thing for sure, she is a no bullsh*t type of person. She has the guts to call a spade a spade and square off with them. I myself, find that refreshing in the age of Lobbyists' Politics.
I am not saying I agree with her stand on aerial wolf hunting, drilling in ANWR or her pro-life stance. But you show me a politician that even one person agrees with 100%, and I'll show you a figment of anyone's imagination. This next election is not about voting for the best candidate, but for the lesser of two evils.
 

Jim Phillips (3200)
Friday August 29, 2008, 5:29 pm

My first thought, when I saw the title of this news story, was to laugh out loud - "hahaha"... I just couldn't help it and I'm still laughing.

TY, Cate.

 

Kathy Chadwell (362)
Friday August 29, 2008, 5:39 pm
Dear Kathy,

I’m heading home from Denver and my ears are still ringing from the roar of the crowd that celebrated this amazing moment in Mile-High Stadium. Sen. Barack Obama is the leader our country needs right now - and I can’t wait to get home to start the final leg of our fight to put him into the White House.

And now we know what we’re up against, with Sen. John McCain’s announcement moments ago that anti-choice Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin is his pick for vice president.

By picking Palin, we now risk having two anti-choice extremists who will push a rigid anti-choice agenda. Any remaining doubts about McCain’s extreme anti-choice position should be put to rest when voters learn about the combined anti-choice records of Palin and McCain.

Speak out for the future of a woman’s right to choose by making a donation to NARAL Pro-Choice America to help elect Sen. Obama.

We must reach hundreds of thousands of Independent and Republican pro-choice women in suburban and exurban swing districts this fall - and we need your help to do it.

Palin is not just anti-choice, she’s opposed to abortion, even in cases of rape or incest. [Juneau Empire, “Abortion Draws Clear Divide in State Races,” accessed 8/29/08 and Anchorage Daily News, “Governor’s Race: Top contenders meet one last time to debate,” 11/03/06.] Palin is also a member of the anti-choice group Feminists for Life.

We can’t let McCain-Palin continue George Bush’s rigid and extreme anti-choice legacy.

Help defeat John McCain and Sarah Palin, and help NARAL Pro-Choice America protect choice at every level.

Thank you for everything that you do.

My best,








Nancy Keenan
President, NARAL Pro-Choice America

 

Melissa Kush (3)
Friday August 29, 2008, 5:56 pm
I don't know much about her...but she's cute, she looks like Sally Fields. I like her, I really, really like her! :D I wonder if she plays the saxophone or flute or something?
 

Kristi K. (2029)
Friday August 29, 2008, 6:30 pm
Palin won the Miss Wasilla beauty contest, then finished second in the Miss Alaska pageant,at which she won a college scholarship. In the Wasilla pageant, she played the flute and won "Miss Congeniality." McCane thinks this makes her qualified to be VP, I guess.
 

Ariel H. (46)
Friday August 29, 2008, 6:47 pm
oh yes, I agree with most of what has already been said - except Marion Y. No disrespect intended here, but Obama and the other hopefulls did gang up on Hillary a few times. The reason that both Hillary and Obama stopped being so adversarial was due to the bad press over it and the pundits saying everyone is fed up. Let's not get short memories here folks.

Anyway, yes she is anti-abortion, for aerial wolf hunting, is on the Alaskan Wildlife Alliance's sh!t list, is for big oil and is under investigation for mis-use of her office (wanted her brother-in-law fired for leaving her sister!) Wall Street Journal had been informed that she would probably even be facing impeachment hearings soon. Sooooo, actually McSame/McCaint may have thought he was playing a smooth stategy to get disgruntled Hillary supporters to blindly join is camp because his VP has particular anatomy, but in reality it may back fire BIG on him.

That McCaint even thought the women as a whole are blind to this blatant ploy when he is against women's rights and gay/lesbian rights (a large sector of Hillary's supporters!) shows his ingrained prejudice. To think that women would consider Palin a trade-off for Hillary is laughable. She has barely been in her current position 2 years, she hasn't been around long enough for us to know how she stands on many issues. In comparison Hillary has been in public service and meeting with the movers and shakers of the WORLD for 30 years now. Her speech at the United Nations Fourth World Conference on Women, Plenary Session in Beijing, China: 5 September 1995 is going down in history (http://gos.sbc.edu/c/clinton.html). Palin (in political terms) can't hold a candle to Hillary's achievements and no woman (crossing my fingers) will be fooled by this cheap attempt.

It was smart in one aspect only - Palin is so green that she would never question McSame and would dutifully do what ever she was told to do just for the chance to be in the White House (no doubt she may even walk 10 paces behind him.)
 

naomi f. (9)
Friday August 29, 2008, 6:48 pm
I have to say that I am so glad to read so many comments that prove that McCain and the Republican party aren't going to take us for fools. It was indeed very smart and sneaky for him to choose a woman for his VP choice. And then his choice after so much criticism on Obama's age and lack of experience, it really is a SLAP in the face of all women and Clintion supports. He believes that we are so supperficial and stupid, that we are SIMPLY split our votes, because there is a woman on the ticket. All that means is the he believes he doesn't need a real VP, he just needs to split the votes. Nice try McCain.
 

Stefanie S. (4)
Friday August 29, 2008, 7:18 pm
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks choosing her is a ploy. Unfortunately, many of the people who would vote for someone such as her (and him), WILL fall for it.
 

Delliana Ofthesea (241)
Friday August 29, 2008, 7:30 pm
One Word:
Pathetic.
Oh Wait---HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>**
 

Sharon Ostrow (2)
Friday August 29, 2008, 7:31 pm
A pandering we go, a pandering we go, hi ho the derry oh, the pandering we go
 

. (0)
Friday August 29, 2008, 7:35 pm
When I heard this news,my immediate thought -which I still beleive-was that this is a tactic,it is politicking.For a party which seems to stand against quotas -the Republicans are basically endorsing them.Steel worker husband -check-female candidate-check,someone whose prescence on the ticket just might take the votes of disillusioned Democrats-check (the angry ,Obama loathing Hilary supporters),young enough to regain the votes that McCain's age may will lose us-check,good looking,check.
During her speech ,I was half expecting her, to embrace a gay family member,who looked every inch the stereotype,ie flamboyant and camp if male,dungarees and sensible shoe wearing,and with short hair if female.
The cynical party apparatchiks,probably only resisted going for the gay vote,because it would lose the barmy right wing Christians.
It is a cynical game.
I have to agree with Mel,she is attractive.However that factor wouldn't affect my vote (which I dont have anyway ,due to being British),but it can't do the Reptiles any harm.

*Note.apoligies to the fine and decent reptile community,for reference which appeared to associate them with greedy Republicans.
 

Marion Y. (322)
Friday August 29, 2008, 7:44 pm
No disrespect seen in your comment, Ariel. I've been wrong before so it's possible I missed something in the primaries. Although it is now moot, I'd be interested in you providing something factual on that claim.
 

. (0)
Friday August 29, 2008, 7:45 pm
The idea that a woman, will be anymore sympathetic to women is not really born out by history.The worst,most brutal and twisted Prime Minister the UK ever had was Margaret Thatcher,who made sweeping cuts to childrens services,and womens workplace rights..The same goes for having a black or working class leader, it doesnt make life easier for those groups.
Systems and policies matter far more than what gender,race ,class etc a person is.Tony Benn in the UK,born into a very well- to- do family,is a libertarian left winger,who has far more sympathy for the poor,than did John Major ex Prime Minister who was born into a very working class environment.
 

Marion Y. (322)
Friday August 29, 2008, 7:48 pm
Ariel, my apologies. I just reread my statement. I had meant to say "just as Obama would not attack Clinton initially until the attacks were so vicious he had to come back at her."
 

Ariel H. (46)
Friday August 29, 2008, 8:45 pm
Not a problem Marion. It is all good :-) It seems the concensus is saying most everybody sees through the ploy. I hope this carries throughout the nation.
 

Tom M. (819)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:01 pm
Gov. Palin supports aerial hunting because the powerful Alaskan commercial hunting industry wants to eliminate nature's predators in order to inflate moose and caribou numbers so they can continue to cater to wealthy out-of-state trophy hunters.

In June, her Dept. of Fish and Game pulled 14 wolf cubs from their den and shot them in the head after gunning down 14 adults, including their mothers, from a helicoptor. A total of 28 wolves were killed. It is against state law to kill nursing mothers and/or their young. Nobody has been held accountable.

According to state wildlife policy, the fish and game biologists were required to look for a home for the orphaned cubs. Officials at the Alaska Zoo in Anchorage said they were never contacted, even though they would have taken in and sought permanent homes for the cubs. Nobody has been held accountable.

Hoping to boost the number of wolves killed this year, Palin announced the state would pay $150 for each wolf kill. "Permittees will be paid $150 when they bring in the left forelegs of wolves taken from any of several designated control areas."

Palin favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. She also opposes the listing of the Polar Bear as an endangered species out of concern that it might inhibit oil development off Alaska's Arctic Ocean coastline and has sued the federal government at taxpayers expense in favor of the oil companies interests.

McCain’s VP choice is under ethics investigation for abuse of power in Alaska. She's about as opposite as Hillary as a candidate could be. It will be interesting to see what happens when she confronts the national media regarding her positions on Roe v. Wade, gay rights, creationism, aerial hunting, etc.
 

Mary Neal (183)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:03 pm
Pretty shrewd of McCain. However, before the feminists get too excited, I hope they will read up on this VP candidate:

CNN reports: "Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency. Gov. Palin shares John McCain's commitment to overturning Roe v. Wade, the agenda of Big Oil and continuing George Bush's failed economic policies. That's not the change we need; it's just more of the same," Obama spokeswoman Adrianne March said.

Thanks, Cate! She is both intelligent and attractive. I confess to being a little proud today, although I would never vote for her.

Mary
 

Robert P. (0)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:38 pm
McCain probably thought that he could pick up Hillary's supporters by picking someone of the same gender despite her being against almost everything that Hillary stands for. I wouldn't be surprised if he saw "House Bunny" before he decided on Palin.
 

E. George Strasser (0)
Friday August 29, 2008, 9:53 pm
What a choice. "Annie Oakley" for VP. She will help the environment like the Exxon Valdez. If you can't drown it in oil, shoot it.
 

K. A. Hilliker (293)
Friday August 29, 2008, 10:23 pm
My daughter (a 2nd generation feminist with a degree in Women's Studies) laughed when she heard the "female" VP running mate. She said there she would have liked it if McCain had picked a MINORITY woman - then she could laugh as all her father's family had to VOTE for say, a Mexican, or a Puerto Rican, etc. along with their vote for McCain. (Yes, they're idiots!)

You knew Palin was going to be bad when NOW & the FEMINIST MAJORITY had mail in my INBOX before I went to bed this morning!!! I'm thinking he could have just selected a blow-up doll as his running mate!
 

Denice G. (45)
Friday August 29, 2008, 10:43 pm
Well this is interesting. I don't think it will work for him. She was not the answer for him.
 

Hans L. (958)
Friday August 29, 2008, 11:23 pm
Shocking Choice by John McCain

WASHINGTON-- Senator John McCain just announced his choice for running mate: Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska. To follow is a statement by Rodger Schlickeisen, president of Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund.

“Senator McCain’s choice for a running mate is beyond belief. By choosing Sarah Palin, McCain has clearly made a decision to continue the Bush legacy of destructive environmental policies.

“Sarah Palin, whose husband works for BP (formerly British Petroleum), has repeatedly put special interests first when it comes to the environment. In her scant two years as governor, she has lobbied aggressively to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling, pushed for more drilling off of Alaska’s coasts, and put special interests above science. Ms. Palin has made it clear through her actions that she is unwilling to do even as much as the Bush administration to address the impacts of global warming. Her most recent effort has been to sue the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to remove the polar bear from the endangered species list, putting Big Oil before sound science. As unbelievable as this may sound, this actually puts her to the right of the Bush administration.

“This is Senator McCain’s first significant choice in building his executive team and it’s a bad one. It has to raise serious doubts in the minds of voters about John McCain’s commitment to conservation, to addressing the impacts of global warming and to ensuring our country ends its dependency on oil.”
 

Hans L. (958)
Friday August 29, 2008, 11:43 pm
Peole who can vote for this woman should be checked! Double checked! How stupid must you be to support this environmental desaster! If she would be the next vice president it would be good night America! She will destroy what is left of America! She is as cold as ice the only woman that cold are the woman who have served under Hitler and realy enjoyed what they did with the humans for research..... The answer that i have received from her office after our polar bear protest has exactly shown me what kind of person she is.
She in no human being, human beings have a heart! People who defend her must be hunters or the suns and daughters of EXXON and Co.
I like the word anti woman for this person Mc Cain has no commitment whatsoever for concervation unless you believe the Exxon environemental statements blind....They know that there are more than enough fools in the USA! People who say finally a woman as VP in the whitehouse without checking out who this bitch is.
Please find out who she is before you vote!

You can vote for her if you want to see how cold america can get!
You think the situation in the USA is bad now?
You aint seen nothing yet.....

Corportate America loves this combination! She is the perfect choice for him!

BUT THE WORST POSSIBLE NIGHTMARE FOR OUR PLANET! NOT JUST FOR THE USA!

 

Marc Gartmann (142)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 12:46 am
You have to admit it was a smart move from Mc Cain. It draws the attention away from Obamas stadium performance and switches the media attention to him and his choice VP.
 

CHRISTIAN RYAN (11)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 2:33 am
GOOD LORD I FINALLY GET TO GET A REPLY IN .I DONT APPROVE OF HER EVEN AS A MAN I AM PRO CHOICE AND THIS SHOULD NEVER BE CHANGED ITS LIKE TELLING A MAN HE CANT HAVE A VASETOMY. WHICH I DID YEAR BACK THEY ARE TRICKY THOUGH AND CAN REATTACH ON OWN BUT MY WIFE DIED LAST JUNE SO ITS OVER FOR ME IN KID DEPT. MY NAME IS CHRIS RYAN AND I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER 3 TIMES HERE FOR YEARS I DONT KNOW WHY THEY DONT LIST MY YEARS AS A MEMBER . IF ANY OF YOU REMEMBER ME I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME OF MY OLD FRIENDS BACK .CATE AND I HAVE ALWAYS KEPT IN TOUCH BY MAIL AND BLUE BUNTING I REMEMBER YOUALSO JOYCEY WE USED TO BE FRIENDS ANY WHO WANT PLEASE SEND FRIEND REQUEST I DONT KNOW WHAT CARE 2COM DID WITH MY PICTURE IT WAS HARD ENOUGH TO CUT DOWN TO FIT LOL CHRIS RYAN PS I AM WRITING IN MY VOTE ALSO I IN NO WAY WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE THUGS IN OFFICE THEY NEED TO SET TERM LIMITS AND STICK TO THEM SO SOMEONE LIKE JOE BIDEN DOESNT SPEND HIS LIFE IN THE SENATEANYONE ELSE SEE THIS A S A PROBLEM WE HAVE???? CHRISTIAN RYAN
 

RC deWinter (418)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 3:50 am
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
August 29, 2008

Shocking Choice by John McCain

WASHINGTON-- Senator John McCain just announced his choice for running mate: Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska. To follow is a statement by Rodger Schlickeisen, president of Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund.

“Senator McCain’s choice for a running mate is beyond belief. By choosing Sarah Palin, McCain has clearly made a decision to continue the Bush legacy of destructive environmental policies.

“Sarah Palin, whose husband works for BP (formerly British Petroleum), has repeatedly put special interests first when it comes to the environment. In her scant two years as governor, she has lobbied aggressively to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling, pushed for more drilling off of Alaska’s coasts, and put special interests above science. Ms. Palin has made it clear through her actions that she is unwilling to do even as much as the Bush administration to address the impacts of global warming. Her most recent effort has been to sue the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to remove the polar bear from the endangered species list, putting Big Oil before sound science. As unbelievable as this may sound, this actually puts her to the right of the Bush administration.

“This is Senator McCain’s first significant choice in building his executive team and it’s a bad one. It has to raise serious doubts in the minds of voters about John McCain’s commitment to conservation, to addressing the impacts of global warming and to ensuring our country ends its dependency on oil.”
 

Maria V. (60)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 3:53 am
"Oh WAIT just a minute. Maybe not. There is a kitchen and laundry in the White House isn't there. This might work out just fine for him. That way his lovely wife won't have to break a nail... I know. I'm sexist... LOL"

I am not amuse!! Comments like that is why Clinton is not the nominee even though she won the popular vote.

Comments like that is why I will be voting for McCain-Palin

So much for respecting others... would you like to be judged or mocked because of your gender, color, creed or sexual orientation?


 

Louise H. (100)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 4:51 am
Good Morning America this a.m. said Palin has a dead bear in her office. They said she is a product of Alaska, a hunter, who kills her own food. A member of the NRA. Oh dear, if she gets in as VP, poor animals, is all I can say.
 

Maria V. (60)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 5:08 am
If Obama gets in to office POOR BABIES - - they will be left on top of soiled linen to die. Not even NARAL, Boxer, Kennedy or Clinton approves of that. But Obama argued twice in favor for it and was the only one that voted against the Infant Protection Plan.
 

Deborah M. (7)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 6:20 am
To all of you who say you're going to write-in a candidate when you vote, and to those who say they aren't going to vote: YOU'RE VOTING FOR MCCAIN IF YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA! This is exactly what the McCain/Bush/republicans WANT you to do. The election of the president boils down to this: you vote for the lesser of two evils. Who do you want to see in the white house - McCain or Obama? If you don't vote FOR Obama, then you're cinching the presidency for McCain. Get your heads out of your [whatever] and realize the truth in these words. Please don't help re-elect another bushclone by not voting or by writing-in someone who has no chance of winning. We have only two choices: McCain or Obama. McCain will win if you don't vote for Obama. WAKE UP!
 

Ronda T. (0)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 6:49 am
Shocking Choice by John McCain

WASHINGTON-- Senator John McCain just announced his choice for running mate: Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska. To follow is a statement by Rodger Schlickeisen, president of Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund.

“Senator McCain’s choice for a running mate is beyond belief. By choosing Sarah Palin, McCain has clearly made a decision to continue the Bush legacy of destructive environmental policies.

“Sarah Palin, whose husband works for BP (formerly British Petroleum), has repeatedly put special interests first when it comes to the environment. In her scant two years as governor, she has lobbied aggressively to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling, pushed for more drilling off of Alaska’s coasts, and put special interests above science. Ms. Palin has made it clear through her actions that she is unwilling to do even as much as the Bush administration to address the impacts of global warming. Her most recent effort has been to sue the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to remove the polar bear from the endangered species list, putting Big Oil before sound science. As unbelievable as this may sound, this actually puts her to the right of the Bush administration.

“This is Senator McCain’s first significant choice in building his executive team and it’s a bad one. It has to raise serious doubts in the minds of voters about John McCain’s commitment to conservation, to addressing the impacts of global warming and to ensuring our country ends its dependency on oil.”

###

The Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund (www.defendersactionfund.org) provides a powerful voice in Washington to Americans who value our conservation heritage. Through grassroots lobbying, issue advocacy and political campaigns, the Action Fund champions those laws and lawmakers that protect wildlife and wild places while working against those that do them harm.
 

Tom M. (819)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 6:54 am
A picture of Sara with her dead bear is here Louise:
Gov. Sarah Palin - Just Another Corrupt Politician
(http://www.care2.com/news/member/338686546/863127)
 

Karin B. (31)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 7:10 am
I am soo tired of the NRA having so much power. Just imagine a VP who is a member of the NRA. Then imagine McCain having a heart atteck and Palin taking over as president. The NRA would run this country even more so than now. No animal would be save anymore, and she would move her fur and skins into the White House.

Women would have to sneak to Mexico for abortions. Our phones would probably permanently tapped. Forget about living in freedom and having choices.

And think about our world image. OMG. What a freaking nightmare! We would be the laughing stock for the rest of the world.
 

Marion Y. (322)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 7:12 am
Obama's response to why he voted against the Infant Protection Plan:

The Truth Behind False, Outrageous Lies about Obama and ''Born Alive'' Legislation
August 19, 2008

STATEMENT
"Senator Obama strongly supports Roe v. Wade and a woman's right to choose. He believes that there is a moral and ethical element to this issue, and he believes that women do not make these decisions casually, but wrestle with them in consultation with their doctors, pastors and family. Senator Obama understands that some will disagree with him and choose not to support him, and he respects those with different opinions. But the recent attacks on Senator Obama that allege he would allow babies born alive to die are outrageous lies. The suggestion that Obama -- the proud father of two little girls -- and others who opposed these bills supported infanticide is deeply offensive and insulting. There is no room for these kinds of distortions and lies in this campaign. What Senator Obama’s attackers don’t tell you is that existing Illinois law already requires doctors to provide medical care in the very rare case that babies are born alive during abortions. They will not tell you that Obama voted against these laws in Illinois because they were clear attempts to undermine Roe v. Wade. They will not tell you that these laws were also opposed by pro-choice Republicans and the Illinois Medical Society -- a leading association of doctors in the state. And they will not tell you that Obama has always maintained that he would have voted for the federal version of this bill, which did not pose such a threat. The bills Senator Obama voted against in Illinois were crafted to undermine Roe v. Wade or pre-existing Illinois state law regulating reproductive healthcare and medical practice, which is why Senator Obama objected to them."

[read the rest of the explanation at the link]

http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/08/19/fact_check_born_alive_1.php
 

Clever Pseudonym (176)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 7:23 am
She may be the 1st Republican candidate but she's not even the 1st female candidate this year. The Green Party out-did McCain before he started by running a team of 2 Black women.

The twist is that these 2 are both highly qualified candidates (in addition to being attractive) whereas the Palinator is utterly unexperienced in politics. A mother of 5, including one handicapped new-born (as the result of her having a child too late in life), just 2 years ago she was a small-town mayor and wife of a commercial fisherman. She is the antithesis of a progressive in her expressed political views and in her very limitted record of political action.
 

Margaret Trainor (61)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 7:37 am
Thanks Marion Y....hopefully someone will read this information although I am sure it wont change their minds as they seem fixed on this one issue and lie...so unfortunately be prepared to be attacked as a abortionist liberal as the rest of us has
 

Lacie S. (0)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 7:44 am
McCain really is clueless. The disaffected Hillary voters aren't mad because Democrats chose a man instead of a woman. They are pissed because a well qualified woman of a certain age was passed over for a younger person who has yet to pay his dues. McCain, in an obtuse effort to capture those disaffected voters, passed over Elizabeth Dole, Kay Bailey Hutchinson and Olympia Snow, all well qualified women of a certain age who have paid their dues, in favor of a pretty young face with little experience and resume that still touts "winner of Ms. Congeniality Alaska" as an asset. What woman wouldn't be inspired by the idea of an old guy choosing a hottie to be his running mate over an older woman with a wealth of experience.
 

Clever Pseudonym (176)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 7:53 am
Voting for Gender? Vote Green.
Voting for progressive values. Vote Green.
Tired of the BS?

Vote Green!
 

Margi L. (129)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 7:57 am
McCain's choice of VP was very important because he's 72. As a Rep. (which I'm not) I would have wanted a VP candidate that was experienced enough to step right into the presidential role if McCain were to sicken or die. That would have been the realistic and responsible decision. One that would have demonstrated that he cared about the future of the country. Instead he gambled on going for the win. Winning was the only thing that mattered. And that is really what he's done for the whole campaign. He's changed positions on abortion, he's played kissy face with Bush, he's spouted the party line, said anything - just to get the nomination.
 

Sharon S. (0)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 8:06 am
I would like to know exactly WHAT VP's in the past have had this "Vast Experience" that so many of you are speaking of? Is it because she is a woman that you think she can't handle the job possibly??? What experience did LBJ have? What about Gore? What about Cheney? What about any others that were elected to the Vice Presidency???? Did they develop this vast experience from being Governors or Senators???? If so.....HEY! She's a Governor and a damned tough one! I'm a 54 year old female that has hunted and fished her entire life! (Yes, I dress what I kill too!) It's not sport.....it's food on the table and having an enjoyable time NOT selling or doing drugs, raping, kidnapping, robbing or murdering a person. Personally, I look forward to having cheaper gas prices and if it costs a few hundred miles of coastline SO BE IT!
 

Sharon S. (0)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 8:08 am
P.S. Exactly WHERE does Obama's "vast experience" come from???? Maybe his 142 hours he spent in the Senate????? *smile*
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 8:21 am
As with everything else, the Democratic party did it first...1988 Mondale / Ferraro...but I guess some of you are too young to remember that ;)
 

Sharon S. (0)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 8:31 am
WOW! It sure got quiet in here when I asked ya's where Obama's experience comes from..........are you all digging through search sites for answers???? If so, you're NOT going to find them! ;)
 

Louise H. (100)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 8:47 am
Thanks Tom for that photo of Palin sitting on the poor dead bear...I noted your news, plus had to agree with Maria's comment: HIDEOUS
 

Marion Y. (322)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 8:58 am
Margaret...I agree. When I provide factual information on a subject like this, I do it more for the supporters as confirmation, rather than for naysayers who aren't really seeking the facts. If they were really trying to decide on which candidate is best, they would go directly to Obama's site and see his position. They would go to McCain's site as well. Then go to the DNC and RNC sites, search reputable news sites, and last - go to blogs and alternate views on the topic. This is how sincere research is done.

Most people opposing Obama go to Fox News outlets, right-wing sites and anywhere but going directly to the source. It's like if a police officer sees a car accident, asks one driver what happened but doesn't ask the other driver. The officer proceeds to ask all riders in the first car what happened and never gets the story from the other side. He even asks bystanders who may be friends with the first driver, so of course, their opinion may be slanted too. In other words, the officer never wanted the facts in order to make a reasoned opinion on what really happened.

I would imagine most who don't support Obama have never gone through his website, haven't listened to his speeches, don't know about his background or family, know little to nothing about his accomplishments. That is because they don't want to know.

So the information I provide is not to convince irrational people with the facts, but rather to help those who are seeking the truth, and those who will in turn give me a reasoned discussion opposing my views with their facts from legitimate sources.
 

Leagh WinterTree (245)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 9:05 am
She supports drilling in Alaska's refuge and aerial sniping of wolves. She opposed polar bears receiving endangered species protection status. And she wants Creationism taught in science classes. She's a step backward, woman or not.
 

Brinda G. (2)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 9:30 am
WOW! I'm surpirsed they let me on this site. I have been for many animal rights issues but am a practical woman. Am I mistaken or is this group pro animal and against human life? Have any of you found out what else Sarah Polin has done? MOST popular Governor in the US (86% approval), will not allow lobbiest in her office, cut the budget by 10%, taxed the oil companies and gave the money (from the state) to residents, lowered property taxes, challenged the status quo of both D & R, ousted 3 unethical party members, helped build a house for Habitat for Humanity, sold the previous Governors jet for a profit, has visited the troops in Iraq & Germany. All that in two years. More than Bush did in 8. No candidate is going to have everything you want. If she is VP or still Governor her policies will remain. I would rather have her in Washington rattling chains of the Good Ole Boys. Which evil would you prefer to worship, drilling in Alaska or continue to drain our economy sending money to the Middle East. We have been ask to leave Iraq so the war is a mute point.
McCain has voted 90% with Bush, guess what, so have 90% of the other Senators or we wouldn't have these laws. Let us remember the Congress, the House & Senate (who have a 9% approval rating) set the policy. The President only vetos or approves. Have any of you Obama supporters thought out how Obama is going to pay for all these wonderful things? TAXES. Sorry he isn't a Governor, he can't take a pencil to the Budget like Palin did. If you want to be taxed to death to pay for the pie in the sky ideas, go for it. All those services do not come without a price.
 

Kyle McAdam (6)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 10:11 am
Now the oil industry will have an unpaid lobbiest, if McCain is elected. Ms. Palin's husband has worked for the oil industry in the past as a non managerial position.I believe he is a fisherman.
 

claudia p. (0)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 10:35 am
How insulting to women can this man be? To assume women will vote solely on gender is degrading and gives a true insight to his character (or lack of). Also, I heard Ms. Palin is tied in with oil business, scary.
 

Maria V. (60)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 12:21 pm
I really don't see why you all Obama supporters are so upset.

Vote for Obama. Your candidate stoled the election treated Clinton worse than road kill - because she is a woman. Obviously, you will not loose sleep over voting for Obama. You must feel vindicated, please and proud that your "ONE" is on top ticket of your party, so vote for him.

You all are putting a lot of energy into a woman, Palin, that is not in your party and there for is of no concern to you - right? You all are very confident that your "ONE" resonates with the rest of the country - so do not worry.

Why are you so upset at Republicans for being Republicans? Give them credit for picking some one that will be true to their party and has UNITED the Party. I wish I can say the about the Democratic Party.
 

Blue Bunting (855)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 1:02 pm
The surest sign that McCain is in trouble is not the unconventional pick itself, nor his panicked rush to select a teammate he'd barely met.

 

Kathleen Opon (0)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 1:46 pm
Thank you Maria, you make some very good points. I am amused by the tone of many of the comments here made by Hillary supporters that had they been made about Hillary would have been condemned. And Blue, saying she should stay home and take care of her babies instead of working? What does that say about the millions of working mothers here? I'm not a Republican and don't plan on voting for them (I too like the Green Party candidates), but from what I understand Ms. Palin has had her new baby with her and is still breastfeeding him. Instead of instantly hating her I've been doing some research (not relying on what the Obama campaign is saying). As Maria says, why is everyone so shocked that this woman has conservative Republican values? Jeez, I was quite tickled when I heard the news because I saw the absolutely wonderful irony of it: Here's the old white politically entrenched supposedly misogynist man choosing a young, reform-minded, woman as his running mate, while the "one" who is all for hope and change (none of which is yet very clearly defined) picks an old white politically entrenched man. It's hysterical if you can back up far enough to look at it objectively! And please, I mean no disrespect - so don't attack me with "this election is too important to joke about". It would benefit us all to be a bit more objective, at least SOME of the time. Peace to you all.
 

Kevin Carty (10)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 1:50 pm
Brinda G, As you have stated Sarah Palin has done more for the State of Alaska in 2 years then NOBAMA has done in his entire POLITICAL CAREER. Liberals are not interested in the fact that she outed 3 of her own political party for being criminals. They are more interested in when NOBAMA is going to APPOINTED WILLIAM AIRES to be his NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR since he is so knowledgeable about DOMESTIC TERRORISM. They aren't interested in the FACT that she doesn't allow LOBBISTS into her office, just as long as there is a chance that NOBAMA will will have EVERY INSURANCE COMPANY in AMERICA in his POCKET if he forces us into UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE so they can RAPE us some more. They don't care that she is a mother of 5 children they just as soon her to have ABORTED all of them especially her last son. Liberals don't CARE that she is married to a NATIVE AMERICAN "WHO KNOWS MORE ABOUT CONSERVATION THEN ANY OF THEM", but because she hunts and OWNS GUNS she's ANTI ENVIRONMENTAL and that makes her lower then WHALE SH@T. LIBERALS don't care that she GAVE Alaskans ownership of the OIL COMPANIES instead of them owning Alaska, because she gave the money back to Alaskans instead of giving it to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT so they could pay for ABORTIONS for UNDERAGE girls and continue the welfare roles forever. No Brinda before yesterday 95% of them just like me had never even heard of her, but now that she is John McCains running mate to them she is EVERY THING A WOMEN should not be.

CONSERVATIVE.
 

Lee Durham Stone (24)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 2:51 pm
Kevin, You pack so much hyperbole in one unedited paragraph it is difficult to respond (such as the unfair William Ayres comment). But would you care to expand on your comment that Gov. Palin "gave Alaskans ownership of the oil companies"?

I have been inpressed by John McCain for years, especially for his integrity and his independent stands on election finance reform (but not for his positions on much else). This morning I read in some of his memoirs and I am still impressed by his self-analysis and self-criticism. An instance of this is when he campaigned in South Carolina in 2004 and said the State flag was a symbol of cruelty and slavery. Quickly he let his staff convince him to change his stance. In his memoirs he labeled himself a coward (his word) for this capitulation. I respect that he would publicly chastise himself. This speaks well for him.

However, I am astonished, bewildered, that he would choose someone such as Gov. Palin. I won't evaluate Palin here, except to say that about three years ago she was mayor of a small Alaskan town and she has advocated the teaching of Creationism in public schools.

Historically, the V.P. choice has made little difference (EXCEPT when they assume the office of President after his death). But we CAN assess Sen. McCain in this important decision. I am ASTOUNDED that he chose such an unproven, inexperienced novice. THIS should concern us greatly. I am NOW concerned, for the first time, about Sen. McCain's integrity. What was he thinking?
 

Marion Y. (322)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 3:09 pm
"Most of those people are cutting hair or driving cabs."

Tim...Shame on you! This statement has no place here.
 

Marion Y. (322)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 3:14 pm
Obviously, Palin is a fine mother and an up and coming public servant. But it's too early for any of us to gauge what kind of running mate she'll be.

I think she is aligned with McCain's agenda, and that's good for him. But ultimately, this election is going to be about where Obama-Biden want to take the country, and where McCain-Palin want to take the country.

My vote is for Obama-Biden.
 

Keith Dunford (0)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 3:38 pm
Marion Y,

You are right on target. As an independant I want to see, hear and read everything possible on candidates for the highest office in the land, not just show up at some rally that resemble an Amway meeting. - I was sorely dissapointed in the Democratic Convention which can only be summed up as "Four days of insincerity packaged for television" - Can't believe anyone with a view to researching the facts would fall for it. I simply hope the GOP put on a better approach to convincing me to vote for them.

Keith D.
 

Kevin Carty (10)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 4:10 pm
Lee, since i didn't sign up here to correct any of my short comings in my grammar the plug about "You pack so much hyperbole in one unedited paragraph" shall be considered as nothing more then a pathetic attempt to insult me.
How can one even assume that the comment about William Ayres was unfair. This man was and still is a self professed DOMESTIC TERRORIST, who until the MEDIA got ahold of the story was a welcome and frequent guest of NOBAMA. You may consider it UNFAIR, i consider it a very TELLING aspect of how NOBAMA thinks and surrounds himself with these types of people.
I understand that people in America have different views and MORALS like NEO-CONS and NEO-LIBS. There is not ONE THING that comes out of his mouth that i can even imagine believing. His vision of what America should be and my vision are 180% apart in everything. Although i am a conservative, up until now i had absolutely no reason to even think about voting for McCain because to me he was no more CONSERVATIVE then Edward Kennedy, Russ Feingold or Dianne Feinstein. Up until now i considered a vote for McCain nothing more then a vote LIBERALISM.
Lee one of your comments struck me as hilarious {I am ASTOUNDED that he chose such an unproven, inexperienced novice. THIS should concern us greatly}. With all of 142 hrs as a serving US Senator who spent most of that time "PRESENT" during votes and declaring his intention to run for President NOBAMA hasn't run ANYTHING other then his mouth. Being the Mayor of what a town of 9500 people, i guess isn't much or as JACK CAFFERTY from CNN said the GOVERNOR of a STATE with 13 PEOPLE AND A handful of reindeer isn't much of an accomplishment. So i guess if you laid each of their profiles and accomplishments side by side SARAH PALIN is MORE QUALIFIED to be PRESIDENT then BARAK NOBAMA is. So who really is the unproven, inexperienced novice?
So you are absolutely correct Lee THIS does concern me greatly that half the population of this country would want a first time Senator with no ACCOMPLISHMENTS, NEVER RAN ANYTHING and can not even be bothered to vote either YES or NO on LEGISLATION for FEAR THAT IT WOULD RUIN HIS CAREER to be the PRESIDENT of the STRONGEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. That is what concerns me is that people are going to VOTE for him either because he is BLACK, a NEO-LIB or because he PROMISED things that he WILL NEVER DELIVER and if he is successful I WILL HAVE TO ENDURE 4 YEARS of his RHETORIC!
 

san s. (3)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 4:11 pm
After all of the hooplah dies down about this latest Karl Rove dirty political trick, I hope women will recognize that Sarah Palin and John McCain are not the candidates we want to be casting our votes for.

As far as introducing the 'woman' factor into Republican politics. Note that Hillary Clinton represents a woman coming into her own. Sarah Palin represents a woman saying what men want to hear. Witness how she is touted as being a member of the NRA and a hunter. Are these the credentials we want to the person who may become the next president when McCain croaks?

In her article "Unlikely pick for No. 2" (SJMN, 8/30/08), Cathleen Decker wrote that Sarah's parent 'nearly missed her official unveiling because they were out hunting caribou'? Is this why she has authorized cruel aerial hunting of wolves in Alaska including the removal of wolf pups from their den and shooting them? To increase the herds of caribou for her parents and others of her ilk to hunt? Is this something to be proud of? I think not - heaven help the already overburdened and threatened wildlife species of the world at the hands of such people.

Sarah Palin's right wing politics threaten a woman's right to choose; the switch to alternate energy and America's security in a complex world, among other threats initiated by Bush which will be maintained under a McCain/Palin administration.

I hope women and others will heed Obama's call for change and recognize that Palin is not that change - she is just a typical right wing good old boy in skirts. And as for McCain - he may start believing in the rhetoric that he is a maverick, but here again, this whole thing is the same old, same old right wing blarney and trickery under a different guise.

Sandra S
Sunnyvale CA
 

san s. (3)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 4:13 pm
After all of the hooplah dies down about this latest Karl Rove dirty political trick, I hope women will recognize that Sarah Palin and John McCain are not the candidates we want to be casting our votes for.

As far as introducing the 'woman' factor into Republican politics. Note that Hillary Clinton represents a woman coming into her own. Sarah Palin represents a woman saying what men want to hear. Witness how she is touted as being a member of the NRA and a hunter. Are these the credentials we want to the person who may become the next president when McCain croaks?

A recent local news article mentioned that Sarah's parent 'nearly missed her official unveiling because they were out hunting caribou'. Is this why she has authorized cruel aerial hunting of wolves in Alaska including the removal of wolf pups from their den and shooting them? To increase the herds of caribou for her parents and others of her ilk to hunt? Is this something to be proud of? I think not - heaven help the already overburdened and threatened wildlife species of the world at the hands of such people.

Sarah Palin's right wing politics threaten a woman's right to choose; the switch to alternate energy and America's security in a complex world, among other threats initiated by Bush which will be maintained under a McCain/Palin administration.

I hope women and others will heed Obama's call for change and recognize that Palin is not that change - she is just a typical right wing good old boy in skirts. And as for McCain - he may start believing in the rhetoric that he is a maverick, but here again, this whole thing is the same old, same old right wing blarney and trickery under a different guise.

 

Yvonne White (233)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 4:19 pm
Trust a RepubliCON to find the WORST Woman (oh, but she IS a beauty queen) for the job! And thereby proving their Anti-Women status.

Paul Begala nails the kind of Presidential decision making process that McCain has already proven himself ill-equipped for:
For a man who is 72 years old and has had four bouts with cancer to have chosen someone so completely unqualified to become president is shockingly irresponsible. Suddenly, McCain’s age and health become central issues in the campaign, as does his judgment.
In choosing this featherweight, McCain passed over Tom Ridge, a decorated combat hero, a Cabinet secretary and the former two-term governor of the large, complex state of Pennsylvania.
He passed over Mitt Romney, who ran a big state, Massachusetts; a big company, Bain Capital; and a big event, the Olympics.
He passed over Kay Bailey Hutchison, the Texas senator who is knowledgeable about the military, good on television, and — obviously — a woman.
He passed over Joe Lieberman, his best friend in the Senate and fellow Iraq Kool-Aid drinker.
He passed over former congressman, trade negotiator and budget director Rob Portman.
And he also passed over Mike Huckabee, the governor of Arkansas.

For months, the McCainiacs have said they will run on his judgment and experience. In his first presidential decision, John McCain has shown he is willing to endanger his country, potentially leaving it in the hands of someone who simply has no business being a heartbeat away from the most powerful, complicated, difficult job in human history.

LOL! Mc$ame found his Cheney, and she speaks in tongues!;) "According to some reports, Palin attends church at the Juneau Christian Center, a congregation affiliated with the Assembly of God. As many of you know, the Assembly of God is the largest pentecostal denomination in the world. It is known for speaking in tongues, healing, and an emotional and contemporary style of worship with a lot of hand-raising."

 

Yvonne White (233)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 4:28 pm
(When commenting on the Palin pick) Another Republican cited a line from “This Is Spinal Tap”: “There is a fine line between clever and stupid.”
I believe Mc$ame thinks he's being clever - if he wins: women ARE Stupid, if he loses: women ARE Losers. Either way the RepubliCON Reich-wing can Keep Women Down!:(
 

Hans Fredrick (3)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 5:41 pm
How can she be the VP let alone president of the US?. She could not even give herself good prenatal care while she was Govenor at government cost. Stay home and take care of your 5 little kids, they need you more that 300 million Americans do. This shows McCain's Presidental mental capacity. Does he know where all his houses are with so many he may walk into the wrong one. If he is elected(God Forbid) we can rent out the Whitehouse to recoop some of the money George has been throwing down rat holes in the middle east for the last 6 years. After all McCain has all these houses to live in he does not need the Whitehouse.
 

Camille R. (0)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 5:53 pm
August 30, 2008
Palin booed for mentioning Hillary Clinton
Posted: 07:35 PM ET

From CNN Political Producer Peter Hamby


Palin is praising Clinton on the trail as the GOP woos the New York senator’s supporters.
WASHINGTON, Pennsylvania (CNN) – This might not be the best way to reach out to those disillusioned Hillary Clinton supporters.

In just her second appearance on the campaign trail with John McCain, newly-minted GOP running mate Sarah Palin was showered with boos on Saturday for attempting to praise Clinton’s trail-blazing bid to become the first female president.

As she did at in her debut speech in Ohio yesterday, Palin appealed to the women in the crowd here in Pennsylvania with a political shout-out to Geraldine Ferraro, who preceded Palin as the first women to be tapped as a vice presidential candidate. The reference was met with polite applause.

But in contrast with the mild reception that greeted the comment at the Ohio event, when Palin praised Clinton here for showing “determination and grace in her presidential campaign,” the Alaska governor was met with a noisy mix of boos, groans and grumbles around the minor league ballpark where the “Road to the Convention Rally” was held.

Palin quickly recovered, promising the audience that female candidates weren’t yet finished, and that she and McCain were on their way to victory in November.

Filed under: Hillary Clinton • Sarah Palin

 

Past Member (0)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 5:59 pm
"As with everything else, the Democratic party did it first...1988 Mondale / Ferraro...but I guess some of you are too young to remember that ;)"

Guess my memory is failing me as well, the first woman VP candidate was on the Democratic ticket in 1984! Mea culpa...
 

Kevin Carty (10)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 7:28 pm
Hans that got to top the list of the totally ignorant. Downs syndrome has nothing to do with PRENATAL care, short of MURDERING her child in the womb there was nothing she could have done. But please keep commenting. The way i see it 300 million AMERICANS need her a lot more then we need NOBAMA'S SOCIALIST AGENDA.
 

Ariel H. (46)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 7:55 pm
Ooops. Well to Sharon S. McCain's choosing a woman seems to be in direct correlation with Hillary not being picked. Has nothing to do with Obama's qualifications. Has everything to do with a strategic move to win over Hillary supporters who are still feeling the burn of a slap in the face. They never wanted Obama and McCain is hoping to pick them up to his side. So asking about Obama's qualifications isn't germaine to the discussion. If you want to compare apples to apples, Hillary's qualifications far exceed Palin's. Hillary's 1995 speech from Bejing is already considered among the great speeches (http://gos.sbc.edu/c/clinton.html) What was Palin doing in 1995?

It is great that Palin has done some good while in office, Henry VIII did some good things in while king, but he will be remembered for beheading two of his wives. What you are seeing is that people on Care2 are looking at her character and seeing somebody who supports what is vastly considered by many of us as absolutley barbaric...aerial hunting and slaughter of wolves. Sorry, but that along with her opening up drilling in the Alaskan wildlife Alliance she doesn't get any accolades. Many of us believe you can tell a whole lot about a person by how the treat the animals. The phenomenal Albert Schweitzer said (paraphrasing from memory) How you treat the lesser dumber animals tells what kind of person you are.

Deborah M, yes there exists a two party system in this country...until people get fed up enough to demade change. Just because that is the way it is doesn't make it a good system. Used to be in this democratic nation write in occured regularly. I take offense at anybody telling me how to vote. I shall never ever vote a repug. But I also have to vote my conscience, not necessarily "party". And a little food for though -If, and I do mean IF, the green party gets a certain percentage of votes then that secures their being automatically included in the next presidential campaign as a viable 3rd party. That may very well be something needed. And why are we all so interested in this turn of events if it isn't our party, because soooo many of the Hillary supporters were Republican women! This is history in the making and we are being told to shut up, be still and color?
 

Nancy B. (0)
Saturday August 30, 2008, 8:28 pm
I think Palin is a good choice. She's a woman who got to where she is on
her own merit.( Hilary got where she was because of her husband)
In my experience, hunters and fisherman are the most environmentally aware
people. A mom with 5 kids is sure aware of the costs of food,health insurance and all those other family issues. As to the problem with the brother-in-law,from what I read he needed to be fired and if the commisioner
thinks it's OK for his state troopers to Taser their 10 yr old stepkid then he needed to be fired too.
 

Tim K. (0)
Sunday August 31, 2008, 12:04 am
You want to give our country to a Arbaric.He was born in Kenya and has tie's with many bad people.He is going to talk your gun's.America he will distroy like they did in Ill.The hospital Michell worked at was aproved for a new hospital but the good old bud's got the money and they did not get any thing sad. You go a head sale your freedom to a Arbaric.I have read up on Palin and she is good she help's people yes she stop's the crook's.She is just what we need to help clean up our country. Vote McCain/Palin 2008
 

Hans L. (958)
Sunday August 31, 2008, 3:39 am
Is this the Change that America has been waiting for?
I hope not but i am not sure with the American people George W Bush has been elected twice and even if Gore had a few more votes millions of people have asked for bush! And this time million of voters will want the rat pack! Cheap oil is all that it takes to make the average american to vote for her! I am glad that we have no average americans in Care2!
 

Rachel D. (57)
Sunday August 31, 2008, 4:41 am
What exactly is an "Arbaric"?
 

Deborah M. (7)
Sunday August 31, 2008, 10:40 am
Ariel, The system we have now sucketh verily! Yea neighbor! I'd LOVE to see a viable green ticket with a CHANCE, but, helllloooo, it obviously won't happen in THIS lifetime. No one is telling you how to vote, much less to "shut up, be still and color" so take all the "offense" you want - it's your choice: I'm simply asking people to WAKE UP instead of throwing away their votes by writing-in candidates who don't have a chance in hades to win. The fact remains that the next president WILL BE either McCain or Obama.
 

Duane Sheehan (39)
Sunday August 31, 2008, 12:11 pm
I haven't seen any real candidates in years. This election is no different. It all comes down to who can tell the best story and lie the best. A president isn't any more then a puppet, lead by the senate. And about Palin and her anti-believes, everyone has some dark sides, but that doesn't make them bad people. Myself I think given Palin a chance, she'll do her best to help America, by looking at what the people actually want. She's a fighter and not afraid to rock the boat. True she is an unknown in the lower states. But let's see what the next two months produce before we condemn her. McCain I believe made a mistake, but sometimes mistakes can turn out to be good. About my believes, I've been fighting for the rights of animals since I was a kid, I'll fight until I die. My biggest fight are for the wolves and wild horses, but I argue for all animals. But unlike a lot of people, I have nothing against hunting as long as you eat what you kill. By hunting people keep the animal population down. Just like we need wars to keep the human population down. Some of my ideas are off the wall, but you know what, I don't really care what people think of me, people that actually know me know that I really care. I'm for equal rights, I'm against any form of animal abuse, child abuse or women abuse. I'm totally against distroying our national forest or any wildlife reserve. I'm for pro-choice. I'm also for gay rights. I disagree with alot of things, but I also agree with people when they are RIGHT.
 

Hans L. (958)
Sunday August 31, 2008, 12:23 pm
Hey Duke!

You should read what Sarah stands for before you give her a chance! She is the devil in disguise! She has the potential to be your next president if Mc Cain dies! Look at how she thinks about this world not just wildlife and conservation topics! She would do you the favour and start many more wars! I agree that wars are a great way to solve problems!
Hitler has proven that i could realy be the ENDLOESUNG! Final solution but i rather prefere
birth control! Sarah is against any kind of birth control! Sarah will do everything to destroy this planet...and if the USA will not stop her i am sure the world will! First america refused to sign the Kyoto protocoll and now this....
 

Marion Y. (322)
Sunday August 31, 2008, 12:47 pm
Someone asked where does Obama's vast experience come from. Here goes:

Obama has 'private working' experience (3 years as a community organizer) 12 years teaching constitutional law, and working as a civil rights lawyer. Neither McCain or Palin has ever had a real job outside of politics. Obama has authored, co-authored and supported more legislation for the good of Americans and vets than has McCain and Palin together.

Please don't compare McCain or Palin to Obama who has a genius IQ, a degree in International Relations and a Constitutional Law Degree, graduating Magna *** Laude from Harvard Law School. McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class -- D- from the Naval Academy. (It shows in greedy personal life and the poor decisions he makes.)

Oh, I forgot McCain did work for a short time for his "MOBSTER' father in law as VP of PR for the company that was given to Cindy Lou's father, Jim Hensley, by big time mobster, Kemper Marly for his loyal service. Having a degree in Journalism can hardly be compared to Obama's education, qualifications & experience. The country desperately needs someone with the intellect, vision, pragmatism, temperament, values, proponent of science, integrity and concern for humanity/planet/animals as Obama.

Any way you want to dress her up, Palin is a radical Christian, gun toting, animal killing, right winger from Alaska. Palin's biggest problem has been environmentalists trying to preserve Alaska against Palin and her natural gas pipeline plan, a bridge to nowhere and desire to make Alaskans rich by drilling for oil, and her husband's fishing business more lucrative. How is Palin going to relate to poverty, immigration, crime, alternative energy, global warming and animal rights? She believes global warming is a lie, and her house is filled with dead animals. Her husband worked for BP OIL. What a farce. What happens if old McCain dies in office? Palin is president. I can picture her now sitting at a gathering of world leaders between Putin/Medvedev and China's leader. Putin would say "Nyet!" and the Chinese leader might walk out. If we thought Bush was the worst president, wait till you see the fireworks this team will bring.

We need leaders who will work with other nations, not send them off to push their buttons and destroy the world.

A vote for McCain-Palin is a vote that pushes aside reasonable thought. It is a vote that says my personal views and fears outway the legacy I leave my grandchildren and the planet.
 

Marion Y. (322)
Sunday August 31, 2008, 12:54 pm
From news anchor to vice presidential nominee

First Palin's footage as a news anchor, now her own mother-in-law, Faye Palin,
says she's not voting for Palin either - not because Palin isn't a go-getter and made some accomplishments, but the mother in law believes Obama will lead America in the right direction rather than McCain-Palin. This is total comedy a serious time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bza63nnqiKA

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/republican_race/2008/08/30/2008-08-30_sarah_palins_motherinlaw_uncertain_about.html
 

Sharon S. (0)
Sunday August 31, 2008, 3:57 pm
Wow Marion Y.....so I guess all of McCains years in the military aren't considered a job by you? How rude of you to have such a low opinion of our men and women in uniform that have fought and are out fighting for your right to spew your garbage!
 

Marion Y. (322)
Sunday August 31, 2008, 4:50 pm
Sharon,

There's a difference between government (military) and private (civilian) work experience. This is not to discredit McCain's military service. But there is a difference between military and civilian work in contributing to and understanding the needs of the American people.

"The government sector consists of national, provincial and local municipality entities and employs people to HELP GOVERN the country, provide essential services, research, development and education.

The private sector is what BRINGS IN MONEY for the country. Income from private industry jobs helps to sustain economic growth. It consists of any unit that supplies goods or services at a set price. The aim of the private sector is to manufacture and promote a product that ensures a return to shareholders.

The government's main objective in the education, science, knowledge fields and all other areas are to work for the greater good of society. Research and goals are long term. The government plans years ahead and has an enormous budget.

The private sector on the other hand cannot [always] afford to work with 20 year plans and budgets. Enterprises in the private industry have to GET profits while the government just needs to be able to break even or show little growth. As such you will work on longer term projects when if you choose government employment and since profit is not such a big issue, you will also NOT BE JUDGED SO SEVERELY ON PRODUCTIVITY AND OUTPUT as in the private sector.

If you are a person who likes to see the end results of your work, wants to complete projects in shorter time spans and enjoy diversity, then the private industry jobs are more for you. The government has time to implement procedures and plans, while in the private sector you need to finish a task in a set time to make a profit. If you cannot deal with strict budgets and deadlines then government employment is better suited for you."
http://www.cvtips.com/government_vs_private_jobs.html

Working in private sector jobs you must hit the ground running, be consistently creative and competitive to add to the bottom line. There is little security in the private sector as employment is strictly based on bottom line performance working with a limited budget. If you mess up and don't produce, you won't be around long. If enough employees mess up the bottom line, the company will shut down. If you mess up in the government, you'll most likely have your job through to retirement, unless you consistent fail to perform.

The military has been transitioning in recent years to align with the competitiveness, continuous improvement process and creativity as seen in the private sector. During the time McCain served, he was never challenged with private sector requirements. As can be seen by the decisions and performance of McCain as a senator, he would never make it in the real world where you must produce, think on your feet fast and be creative.

Two different worlds, two different objectives. Most Americans work in the private sector. Having had that experience, Obama understands our needs and what we are challenged with.
 

Marion Y. (322)
Sunday August 31, 2008, 5:01 pm
Forgot to mention...I'm a 20 year vet and served my country. I have also spent 16 years in the civilian world. I currently have my own business. While the military skills have helped me greatly in certain areas in my civilian work, I was unprepared for the demands and pressures of working in the private sector. It took me several years to get up to speed.

Many soldiers leave the military and find they cannot cope with the civilian world, or even qualify for the jobs.
 

Marion Y. (322)
Monday September 1, 2008, 8:50 am
Strong rumors are floating that Palin is not be baby Trig's mother but rather is his grandmother.

I heard this story the day after the announcement of Palin as VP. I thought nothing of it and figured it was simply a rumor. After carefully going over the Kos article, the story is not favorable to Palin.

"Checking with the Anchorage High School that Bristol Palin attended, reporters were given word that her family had taken Bristol out of school due to contracting infectious mononucleosis. The amount of time Bristol was absent shifts from five to eight months.

Mono can last anywhere from two weeks to three months, but an eight month infection is a freak oddity. Yet it remains a common excuse given by girls in private & Catholic schools around the nation when pregnancy comes into play. Not the first time, not the last time."

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223

While I still want factual evidence that proves beyond a doubt Palin is actually Trig's grandmother, I will keep an open mind on this issue.

Palin as VP does not change my vote. I still will not vote for McCain. However, this is damning against Palin if proven true, yet I think she deserves to be considered innocent until proven guilty.
 

CC C. (15)
Monday September 1, 2008, 9:10 am
Ok, so Palin isn't Hillary Clinton...and Palin is REALLY BAD....but Hillary is back on the list, even though she's not running...so what if people don't vote for Mickey Mouse this time and use her as a write in? Just a thought....maybe a better alternative than the other choices...
 

Hans L. (958)
Wednesday September 3, 2008, 12:33 am
I have just find out that more than 60% think that she we hurt Mc Cain....

This is just wishful thinking people....she is more likely to help him than to hurt him no matter how much bad things people dig out about her! She is republican, good looking, young, tough, and she does what corporate America wants her to do.... she can even mutate to a independent candidate running for Corporate America Tell me ... $arah Palin who else.....

Mc Cain will benefit from her experience in rising high....how did she manage that...?
If she can do the same for the USA the USA would be back! Without national parks and wildlife but who needs wildlife anyhow?

VOTE WHOM YOU LIKE! It does not matter the election outcome is prefabricated like allways! The elections are just a big show ! No other country in the world can compare to the US when it comes to SHOW BUSINESS IN POLITICS!
 

Karen A. (0)
Thursday September 4, 2008, 12:09 am
Very Interesting read!
However.....as someone whose mother told her (when I was 52) that had abortion been allowed, she would have aborted my brother and I, I am baffled. My question is...you are so upset about the killing of animals...but apparently my life counts for nothing.
I'm sorry.....I just don't get it!
 

Elle J. (276)
Tuesday September 9, 2008, 2:47 pm
John McCain is unfit to lead this country. His choice for VP proves that. She is a heartbeat away from the presidency should they win in November. Now that is scary. Pro-choice doesn't necessarily mean abortion. That door swings both ways. If the government can dictate to a woman what she should do with her body, then those who choose to take a chance on a high risk pregnacy, will be told what to do by the govenment should they so choose. Here is an interesting link that you may want to see. I think John McCain is on the verge of senility.http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/325.html Please check this out. Great story Cate, Thank you.
 
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