Wednesday October 1, 2008, 6:33 pm
You can read the full text of the bill here: H. R. 1424
Thanks to David G. for the great pic.

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 6:35 pm
A fuller report from the Wall Street Journal here: Senate Passes Bailout Package

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 6:44 pm
Noted. I am too angry to put togethr a coherent comment. We were screwed tonight by our Senate. Hope it was good for you. I was in touch with the Louisiana senators this afternoon and they did hold firm....that is the only solace I have is that those whom I helped to elect did hear the collective voices of their constituents and voted to reflect that. Those Senators, including the ones standing for election this November, are going to rue this day. You and I, however, will pay dearly. Thank you, Cate. The oligarchy reigns supreme.

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 6:49 pm
I'm so mad I just don't know what to say. We have to stop this $850B mess. It is unconstitutional and treasonous. 85% of the calls that came in, and there were a gazillion calls, said NO! They didn't listen to their constituents. It's unbelievable. YOU ARE ALL F*CKING FIRED!
No it didn't make be feel better, dagnabit.

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 6:49 pm
Now they can safely say, "I was against it before I was for it."

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 6:55 pm
I wrote my senators, Mr. Dodd the Banking Chair of the Senate, and worthless neocon traitor Lieberman. And I have no doubt you all contacted your senators too. Did they listen? Do they CARE about what we their constituents think? Three-quarters of them DO NOT and this vote proves it! The HELL with them...

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:00 pm
Here's the Senate roll call vote: Senate bailout vote NOW you know who NOT to vote for next time around!

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:02 pm
Mein Gott in Himmel.
I may as well say it in German, because we now may end
up having that hyper-inflation the Germans has following
World War One. By 1923 German inflation was running at
800 million percent. Not that I'm saying it will get that
bad here, but how bad will it have to get before it's a
genuine hardship on us average Americans?
I SO agree with Carolyn: We The People got raped in
Times Square at high noon by the U.S. Senate tonight.
And why do I get the creepy feeling the House is gonna
do the same damned thing on Friday?
Let's look on the bright side, though(he said, with gallows humor).
These are the good old days.
Thanks, Cate.
noted.

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:06 pm
Yeah, right, Tim...I need some of that stuff yer smokin' for my blood pressure. I am trying to get to the House of Representatives website to give folks a link to their reps' email addresses but it won't load...must be overwhelmed with screaming Americans - or they deliberately f*cked it up because they KNOW what they're gonna hear!

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:06 pm
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Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:09 pm
Carolyn....we were screwed ? I was under the impression when you said NO...and the act still happened it was rape....
I suppose someone will say...'you should have expected this..but, but I'm the boss..I hired these people..they are suppose to work for me, follow the rules'...How much more could we have done...I fear the answer is NOTHING..

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:10 pm
I want to know who's really behind this bailout, and what Bush - who is not smart enough to have had a hand in this - and legislators have been threatened with - and by whom - if it doesn't pass in the form Henry Paulson is pushing for. Is it America's shadow government, in place and operational (think 9/11) since the assassination of JFK? SOMEBODY knows...

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:17 pm
This is how much our Congresspeople care:

An email to your Congressman may not go through in light of the recent controversy over the failed Wall Street bailout bill.

The Hill.com, a political website that covers Congress, reported today that the U.S. House of Representatives has taken to limiting emails in light of the ongoing financial crisis.

Constituents who use the Congressional website to email the representatives will likely get a message telling them to try back later.

The Chief Administrative Office (CAO), which oversees the upkeep of the House website and member email services, decided to restrict email after an onslaught of messages nearly overwhelmed the government servers.

"This measure has become temporarily necessary to ensure that Congressional websites are not completely disabled by the millions of emails flowing into the system," the CAO said in a letter. - Los Angeles Web Examiner

Fortunately, phones lines are still open. Those wishing to contact their representative should look here for their Washington telephone number.

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:17 pm
Tim I agree with Cate..we all need something to numb these feelings..ah let's look at the bright side Tim munchies are usually cheaper in price than a loaf of bread...lol..

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:23 pm
Sorry I'm late Ombretta, I was 'held-up' (insert picture of a gun) by Care2 glitch, but I've arrived on scene! Better late than never.

No matter how this plays out, it will only slow the crumbling economy, with or without bailout!

People in the streets are calling for criminal indictments against those responsible on Wall Street, but only a reforming 'slap on the wrist' is all they'll get.

On to the House vote: Win, Lose, or Draw?


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Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:24 pm
You're right, Robert, a slap on the wrist, perhaps a meaningless fine, and a BIG POT OF OUR MONEY to play with...GRRRRRRRRRR

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:25 pm
Here is a list of the senators who voted against the rescue bill:

- Waye Allard (R-Colo.)
- John Barrasso (R-Wyo.)
- Sam Brownback (R-Kan.)
- Jim Bunning (R-Ky.)
- Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.)
- Thad Cochran (R-Miss.)
- Mike Crapo (R-Idaho)
- Jim DeMint (R-S.C.)
- Elizabeth Dole (R-N.C.)
- Byron Dorgan (D-N.D.)
- Michael Enzi (R-Wyo.)
- Russ Feingold (D-Wisc.)
- James Inhofe (R-Okla.)
- Tim Johnson (D-S.D.)
- Mary Landrieu (D-La.)
- Bill Nelson (D-Fla.)
- Pat Roberts (R-Kan.)
- Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)
- Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.)
- Richard Shelby (R-Ala.)
- Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.)
- John Tester (D-Mont.)
- David Vitter (R-La.)
- Roger Wicker (R-Miss.)
- Ron Wyden (D-Ore.)

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:30 pm
Cate, Laurie, c'mon over, Ladies.
We'll fire up the pipe and sing
"American Pie".
Speaking of which, this seems fitting right now:

"I met a girl who sang the blues,
and I asked her for some happy news,
but she just smiled and turned away.
I went down to the sacred store,
where I'd heard the music years before,
but the man there said the music wouldn't play.
And in the streets, the children screamed,
the lovers cried and the poets dreamed.
But, not a word was spoken.
The church bells all were broken.
And, the three men I admire most,
the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost,
they caught the last train for the coast
the day the music died."

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:40 pm
Expose 9/11 truth, fight for verified voting, take names, and you know what else. Chin up.

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:45 pm
Ombretta; I just had to point it out, that the picture on your one dollar bill, looks like George Washington being driven MAD by George W. Bush! Is this a composite photo, or is real life imitating art again??? You know what I mean!


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Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:52 pm
In a little over a month it will be our turn to vote and all those that supported this measure should be voted out of office. That is the only way we are going to make them understand that if they don't represent us they don't get to work for us. Kick them OUT.

Thankfully, for what good it did, both of my Kansas senators voted NO.

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:52 pm
Robert, David G. sent me the pic and said "You HAVE to use this in a story" and I thought it was perfect for this one. I dunno where he found it.

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 7:53 pm
Tim, I'm getting in the car...."Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz..." LOL!

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 8:02 pm
This is a TOTALLY immoral thing to do...instead of bailing out big business...and their irresponsibility, they should bail-out the American citizen!!

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 8:10 pm
yes,we were sold out all righty.

But then what do they really have to worry about in the way of backlash from the American people? Our votes don't even count when picking a candidate - that is done by the delegates+ super delegates. Presidential elections, that is done by an electoraal college - not each person's vote. So what if the American people disapprove...just keep all those protests off of mainstream news and nobody will really know. Not that it matters.

In the movie "Sicko" by Michael Moore, I have to say that the biggest thing I took away from the movie was an interview with people in France regarding the attitude of the government etc. and somebody said "In France the government is still afraid of the people when they march in the street, what a shame for the people to be afraid of their government instead!..."

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 8:36 pm
Do you hear them laughing at us from the billionaires club:(
This is Bull

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 9:07 pm
...The Senate all drives Porches now their trying to make amends.lol...thanks Cate and Tim now I have two tunes running in my head LOL...Sen Jonhnson said he couldn't vote for this without addressing more safeguards,etc. Now mind you is suffered a stroke and his verbal speech is still hindered..Thank you Tim Johnson you at least show a thinking mind.The other state senator Thune (R) was called the golden boy with alot of his supporters thinking Bush would slot him in a good position....I say he got the position right behind Bush and Co arses.

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 9:49 pm
All I can say right now is, "AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHH!!!!" Can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd take a hit or 2, Tim, even though I never cared for weed too much LOL!

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 9:52 pm
Laurie, you are absolutely right, they work for us and it's a temp job at that!

Tim! They were singin' bye bye miss american pie drove my chevy to the levy but the levy was dry them good ol' boys were drinkin' wiskey an' rye and sining this i'll be the day that i die

Later its, Joy to the World, and when we get good an toasted, some ZZ Top!

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 9:55 pm
Thanks for the information.

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 9:57 pm
my friends all drive porches I must make amends . . .

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 9:57 pm
Crank it up!

Wednesday October 1, 2008, 10:17 pm
Oh boy, aren't I gonna (A'Palin) be popular, not. I don't see what else they could have done. Yes, more time and increased refinement on all points, but, back to the time factor. Something had to be done. The domino, ripple effect of this crisis simply will not cease to exist because we don't like it, or want to pay for it. We will pay for it, want to talk 'main street' repercussions, if we don't do something to slow it down, we will all be further f'd. If it is for naught, then it makes no difference. F'd coming or going. If it does help, the rest of the world will thank us. Have you noted 'our' effect in other markets and countries, not so good.

If we're going to be pissed off, let's direct our ire where it belongs, not on this hapless congress, yet, but at the greed encrusted monsters that perpetrated this travesty.

Thursday October 2, 2008, 12:10 am
"Instead of siding with a $700 billion bailout, lawmakers could now say they voted for increased protection for deposits at the neighborhood bank, income tax relief for middle-class taxpayers and aid for schools in rural areas where the federal government owns much of the land."
"Moreover, the increase in federal deposit insurance will not be financed over the short term, as the insurance program now is, by assessing premiums on banks that benefit. Instead, banks will get an open-ended line of credit directly to the Treasury Department. But the Congressional Budget Office noted that federal law requires the banks to eventually make up any shortfall and any loans to be repaid, though not until at least 2010." --NYT

I don't know about you, but I'm sure glad that the thousand dollars I have in the bank is insured up to $250,000 now.

Do we get to charge the banks interest now, or can I subtract my portion of the bill for the cost of the bail-out from my mortgage payment?

No, really, we borrow money from a bank, we get charged interest, so what interest rate are we charging them? How about 0% for the first year then 16% after that, 19% should the banks miss a payment, with compounding interest on late payments and late fees.

Oh, it's all pie in the sky at this point, they're getting us all ready to live in tent cities so we'll be happy to have company supplied housing, as we make cheap plastic crap for China.

Thursday October 2, 2008, 12:34 am
They are willing to give $700 billion to Wall Street. Just 2 months ago, Bush said it was irresponsible to give $6 billion for children health care.
PEOPLE.... If this is not a pure evil entity, then what is??

Thursday October 2, 2008, 12:45 am
People its time to wake up the bailout is good for you! Just trust your government on this one! OK Tim is right they try to screw you but there is no other option! THEY RULE! The republicans have played a perfect broadway show ....THIS IS SOCIALISM FOR THE RICH!
Many people will make a fortune with this bailout even if Nancy will try to do her best to stop the big spenders of wallstreet who caused this BS from getting golden handshakes and bonusses! THE PARTY IS OVER....for the people not for the BANKS!

Thursday October 2, 2008, 2:05 am
Abba...Money money money must be funny in a rich mans world......green light for the next party!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=o16uVon2NRQ

The party is over Nancy? I dont think so.. she does not check who is realy behind this...

The bankers will party on, create new products and enjoy golden parachutes like allways!

Wait until Mc Palin is your new president chances that Mc Cain will die are higher than 34% so chances are one to three that you will see SARAH in the whitehouse!

Or do you still think that your vote counts????

Thursday October 2, 2008, 3:58 am
Mein Gott im Himmel, das ist richtig, Tim.
Well, I have to say I hardly expected Ms. Clinton to vote against Wall Street, but I had hoped Schummer might.
Well, I suppose we could take to the streets...and wind up brutalized and held in detention camps...I know they'll have money in the budget for THAT.
By the way, there are ALREADY people living in tents on public grounds.

Thursday October 2, 2008, 4:51 am
ty i think it's all said for me *******************yes people are living in tents here too,one person just lost his house living above collage .he has a alumni so showers .i could go on but i need too do some things.

Thursday October 2, 2008, 5:11 am
Now I know who to vote for and not vote for. Noted with thanks Cate.

Thursday October 2, 2008, 5:26 am
I am sorry folks, but do you REALLY think that $700 and then++++++Billion will make any difference??????????
You must believe in the Tooth Fairy!!!!!!!!This is just a means to an end......The Amero is due in next year, and the $US is supposed to crash before then........This is but part of a carefully ochestrated plan,,,,,,,We are watching Political Theatre, as we are being entertained, they ,are stealing your, job, lifestyle your home, your and your families future, and all that is important.They have brought back a battle hardened Army unit from the Middle East to be used AGAINST YOU, if you try to assert you legal lawfull rights.
If you work on the worst case scenario, and act accordingly, you may have a chance.....if you believe that this is not the case.......you may finish up a creek, without the proverbial paddle.....with nowhere to go. ...it would be a big risk....Remember these families that are pulling the strings have been doing this for a long long time....they KNOW what they are doing.....you have tent cities now......they get results by WHATEVER the means.......they haven't even HEARD of the GOLDEN RULE that we learnt as children, and live our lives by. Trust a rabid dog more than these players...it would be safer........your laws of the land are being manipulated and used against you.....to your detriment....we are but an inconvenience to their grand plan....they have the time....and we are trusting...and we have no concept of the grossness or callousness of their plans......with or without us??!!

Thursday October 2, 2008, 5:32 am
OK First let me say that both the Senaters from my state voted against this bill so they were listening to their people- I am proud of them both that would be Thad Cochran and Roger Wicker and both Republicons I might add-what a pleasent surprise for me-I had called and e-mailed and it seems so had most of the voters in Ms. also I will say that this current bill and I have not finished reading it all states clearly that the taxpayers must stay protected and that the savings accounts, social security and banks that serve the lower and middle class must remain open and protected so that is a good start however I have Not read it all yet so I am reserving any conclusions till then thanx so much 4 the post

Thursday October 2, 2008, 6:52 am
Cant we return to chickens as currency - just to give them another headache

Thursday October 2, 2008, 7:29 am
here guys start faxing Ur house reps 2 free faxes per 24 hours from your home computer
http://faxzero.com/ ask them if the bill passes will we all be able to move back into our houses we got thrown out of? will w be able to find a job on Monday? and what about all the people that are under main street that have lost all? so keep calling and faxing e mailing....

Thursday October 2, 2008, 9:00 am
1. Should the House reconsider its rejection of the $700 billion economic recovery bill?
Yes 42%
No 58%
Total responses to this question: 161749
http://money.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/42200.html

Thursday October 2, 2008, 9:19 am
Noted with disgust

Thursday October 2, 2008, 9:34 am
Some bailout! Noted!

Thursday October 2, 2008, 12:36 pm
It is the "middle" and "lower" classes that have the power, why do we not act accordingly? NO BAILOUT! When someone puts a gun to your head and you do what THEY want, your already dead. It would be wise to remember that. This is a non existant "crisis", that is starting to exist because folks are starting to believe their BULL*&^%. Look at the mainplayers, Pelosi, reid, mcconnel, they are scared to death. Bail yourselves out by replacing fear with love. Guy puts a gun to my head , I laugh and walk away. Game over! Thx Cate!

Thursday October 2, 2008, 2:49 pm
It figures that sneaky Cornyn went with it the 2nd time. He was probably looking in the mirror at himself when the vote was taken. He has become increasingly hard to reach by email, typing in a code, then he wants it on his own form, blah,blah,blah. I was hoping the American people would continue to scream, but either we didn't, they didn't listen, or the whole thing really was orchestrated. So, when does that party start at Tim's? I may need something stronger than my usual Shiner Bock to get through this; it's like watching a tidal wave coming at you and you're paralyzed....noted with GREAT trepidation, Ombretta.

Thursday October 2, 2008, 3:11 pm
Once again we have been screwed and nobody kissed us. So what's new??? Nothing. I am so disgusted.

Thursday October 2, 2008, 5:05 pm
Ok found the glitch and it started out so well- on page 31 and 32 of the bill -opps there it is the clause that lets the secretary give the head of the financial institutions CEO's ect-- whatever they can prove they used to get as a salary or that was my understanding of what I read- so now it goes back to the house for a vote I will be communicating with the congress rep of my state since he voted for the bailout when it was in congress the 1st time- the rest of the bill to that point is pretty promising still reading bill will get back on the rest.

Thursday October 2, 2008, 6:52 pm
Thank You, noted with extreme disgust, anger, and MORE action.

Friday October 3, 2008, 8:46 am
Here is a list of senate add-ons to the bill:

New Tax earmarks in Bailout bill:

- Film and Television Productions (Sec. 502)
- Wooden Arrows designed for use by children (Sec. 503)
- 6 page package of earmarks for litigants in the 1989 Exxon Valdez incident, Alaska (Sec. 504)

Tax earmark “extenders” in the bailout bill:

- Virgin Island and Puerto Rican Rum (Section 308)
- American Samoa (Sec. 309)
- Mine Rescue Teams (Sec. 310)
- Mine Safety Equipment (Sec. 311)
- Domestic Production Activities in Puerto Rico (Sec. 312)
- Indian Tribes (Sec. 314, 315)
- Railroads (Sec. 316)
- Auto Racing Tracks (317)
- District of Columbia (Sec. 322)
- Wool Research (Sec. 325)

Friday October 3, 2008, 9:24 am
Noted Cate and really sick of being screwed w/no fun involved!

Friday October 3, 2008, 10:47 am
House passed the bail out bill to! I am so angry!

Friday October 3, 2008, 1:43 pm
I emailed both my senators who voted yes to tell them I'm disappointed with and will not vote for them again. Likewise I emailed my representative who voted no to thank him. It doesn't do much to make me feel better, but it's better than doing nothing.

Friday October 3, 2008, 3:36 pm
BS. Why/How could they add in TAX BREAKS in a $700 billion spending bill?

Do we hate our descendents that much?

Sunday October 5, 2008, 12:22 pm
So I take it then (hopefully!) that everyone who is upset by this travesty is planning on voting 3rd party for president, since BOTH Obama and McCain voted FOR this "bail-out"?